no carb diet
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i eat low carb, and being in ketosis really does make you feel wonderful.
ignore the mouth breathers that don't know what they're talking about.
eat your meat, eat your fat, eat your veg.
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This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
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I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!0 -
thank you! I just want to try it for a few days not forever.
If you try it for a few days, you might as well stick to it forever, because you'll just gain the weight back when you're done experimenting. Carbs are good. Carbs are fuel. Rice, oatmeal, pasta, bread, the occasional slice of cake or cookie. Go for whole-grain or multi-grain.
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Carbs can be fuel, but why not use your own fat? Rice, oatmeal, pasta, bread, the occasional slice of cake or cookie are all garbage foods for those with weak willpower and can't stick to a whole food diet. Go for whole-grain or multi-grain and potentially suffer bloat and other side effects of genetically engineered wheat!
Blah blah blah. You can be miserable if you like. I'll just keep losing weight.
Who's miserable? I'm perfectly fine with my diet and eating style, enjoy meat and vegtables, never real ate much fruit anyway and cut out all the garbage that made me feel bloated. I bake with alternative ingredients (I make a molten lava cake far superior to anything I've EVER had in a restaurant using no wheat, sugar or other garbage) and as you can see by my ticker I've lost 65lbs doing it this way.
Sooo, I'll enjoy my nice fat 16oz ribeye with mushroom,onion and bacon cream sauce and a size of roasted asparagus tonight while I imagine you slurping down yet another bowl of god awful mush that you call oatmeal (this coming from a former oatmeal fan by the way)
Cheers! :drinker:
Well, if we're going to be flaunting weight loss, I lost 145 pounds eating lovely bowls of mush pretty much every morning. I'll take your ribeye and raise you a big baked potato on the side.
Ooh, and guess who's definitely having oatmeal tonight before bed?! Mmm..
Hey nothing wrong with a potato every once in a while!
Maybe we should all get blood drawn and see what the real deal is
Just got blood drawn three weeks ago, perfectly healthy.
That's great. Glad you are healthy.
How's you cholesterol, blood sugar, fasting insulin levels etc?
Perfection.
I get my blood drawn every month or so as part of my recovery from bulimia, and I've never had an issue -- Oh, except for that period of time where I started cutting foods from my diet and nearly had a heart attack.
Now that I'm eating from all the food groups, I feel great. I want to run a marathon. You want to join me for the carb-loading the night before?
No need for carb loading, I just ran 6 miles this morning having taken in only 15 carbs yesterday. My pace was a 7.5min mile for all 6 miles.0 -
i eat low carb, and being in ketosis really does make you feel wonderful.
ignore the mouth breathers that don't know what they're talking about.
eat your meat, eat your fat, eat your veg.
feel free to add me.
Nice response calling everyone dumb because they do not agree with you. I like that form of debate! Go you!!0 -
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
Taking off the infini-quotes:
I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!
Any voractiy is due to conditioning after a year of giving people solid well thought out advice on the topic, only to have people that have no interest in low carb come into the threads and s**t on everyone.0 -
Why is it so hard for people to accept that cookies are junk food? Why not find whole food that is nutritionally dense and serves a purpose beyond the immediate addiction response? Why can people not believe that perhaps they would be better off without eating sugary, flour based stuff? Because they don't want to.
I look at it this way, when people market foods to kids, what are the buzzwords? Low sugar, reduced sugar, VEGGIES!, real food, not processed, no hormones....yet as adults we can't accept the same things MIGHT be bad for us too, or at least not great choices? I'll tell you much of the reason I ate like that in the past was sheer laziness. Low carbing is more work, takes more time, more planning and more creativity. It's so much easier to cave, eat that cookie, eat that bag of doritos, etc and just get fatter, older and sicker with each passing year.
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
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Why is it so hard for people to accept that cookies are junk food? Why not find whole food that is nutritionally dense and serves a purpose beyond the immediate addiction response? Why can people not believe that perhaps they would be better off without eating sugary, flour based stuff? Because they don't want to.
I look at it this way, when people market foods to kids, what are the buzzwords? Low sugar, reduced sugar, VEGGIES!, real food, not processed, no hormones....yet as adults we can't accept the same things MIGHT be bad for us too, or at least not great choices? I'll tell you much of the reason I ate like that in the past was sheer laziness. Low carbing is more work, takes more time, more planning and more creativity. It's so much easier to cave, eat that cookie, eat that bag of doritos, etc and just get fatter, older and sicker with each passing year.
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
You do realize that Cookie Monster is an addict, right? :laugh:0 -
Why is it so hard for people to accept that cookies are junk food? Why not find whole food that is nutritionally dense and serves a purpose beyond the immediate addiction response? Why can people not believe that perhaps they would be better off without eating sugary, flour based stuff? Because they don't want to.
I look at it this way, when people market foods to kids, what are the buzzwords? Low sugar, reduced sugar, VEGGIES!, real food, not processed, no hormones....yet as adults we can't accept the same things MIGHT be bad for us too, or at least not great choices? I'll tell you much of the reason I ate like that in the past was sheer laziness. Low carbing is more work, takes more time, more planning and more creativity. It's so much easier to cave, eat that cookie, eat that bag of doritos, etc and just get fatter, older and sicker with each passing year.
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
You do realize that Cookie Monster is an addict, right? :laugh:
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i eat low carb, and being in ketosis really does make you feel wonderful.
ignore the mouth breathers that don't know what they're talking about.
eat your meat, eat your fat, eat your veg.
feel free to add me.
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This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
Taking off the infini-quotes:
I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!
Any voractiy is due to conditioning after a year of giving people solid well thought out advice on the topic, only to have people that have no interest in low carb come into the threads and s**t on everyone.
It really does not help when you call people who do decide that low/no carb is not for them 'weak willed' in your first (or maybe it was your second) post. I do not do it because I do not see the point. You do it because you do.0 -
It's not a sustainable diet. Try high carb, low fat, raw vegan for a week and see how you feel. If it's all about losing weight fast, try a juice fast. You can lose 2 LBS a day juice fasting. A low carb diet will just put you into ketosis.I'm considering it but not sure yet. A friend just lost 8 lbs in 5 days but I know everyone is different.0 -
I completely disagree with those who say low carb eating is not sustainable. What isn't sustainable about eating meat, cheese, nuts, fats, vegetables, and low sugar fruits? I just don't get why people think like this. I know low carb eating isn't for everyone, and that is fine, but it is certainly sustainable. I have lost 50 pounds doing 5-6 days of fairly strict low carb eating with a day or two of higher carb eating.
OP, here is a sample menu from an earlier day this week for me
Breakfast (I tend to eat weird foods for breakfast because my DH works third shift, so it is his dinner)-4 oz hamburger, no bun obviously, with mayo, half a tablespoon of ketchup, tomatoes, and pickles
Lunch-Cheesy cauliflower soup
Afternoon Snack-Pork rinds, ranch sour cream dip, peanut butter
Dinner-Salad with two cups of lettuce, a cup of spinach, half a tomato, cheese, and ranch dressing
Night snack-Baked zucchini topped with pepperoni
Calories-1540, carbs 50, fiber 11, net carbs 39, and protein 88. I was a little low on protein, but this is just to give you an idea.0 -
Doesn't activity level have a lot to do with the whole carb, low carb debate?
I never would have thought I'd ever go near a low carb type diet. But I know my activity level is going to near zero for at least two weeks, probably a month.
Need to burn fat. Need to lower my weight to help me get active again. Seems like I'm limited to going low carb for quick results.0 -
To acids, pretty quickly on death ?Really? Where does the glycogen in that ribeye go?0 -
It's not a sustainable diet. Try high carb, low fat, raw vegan for a week and see how you feel. If it's all about losing weight fast, try a juice fast. You can lose 2 LBS a day juice fasting. A low carb diet will just put you into ketosis.I'm considering it but not sure yet. A friend just lost 8 lbs in 5 days but I know everyone is different.
Emphasis mine. That's exactly the point. Secondly people act like low carb is such a radical change, and crazy...but yet feel completely comfortable suggesting some crazy BS like a raw vegan diet or juicing like "Hey that's so normal, why not?!"0 -
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
Taking off the infini-quotes:
I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!
Any voractiy is due to conditioning after a year of giving people solid well thought out advice on the topic, only to have people that have no interest in low carb come into the threads and s**t on everyone.
It really does not help when you call people who do decide that low/no carb is not for them 'weak willed' in your first (or maybe it was your second) post. I do not do it because I do not see the point. You do it because you do.
Yet generally my point stands. YOU may have decided that it doesn't make sense to you, but there are many, many people that come to these forums, or have come to me in real life and said "I've literally tried everything to loose weight and can't! You've been able to and look healthy and are gaining muscle in the gym, what should I do?!"
Soon as you mention cutting some carbs they immediately (9 times in 10) "Oh, I don't know, I couldn't give up my bread/pasta/cookies/ice cream/<insert over processed carb laden food here>!" Weak. They'd rather stay fat and eat these foods...and I know a few of them personally that have continued to beat their heads into the wall doing these same types of things, not loosing or even gaining weight...but even TRYING to cut carbs is so crazy they won't give it a shot. Most of them would try a raw vegan diet before just laying off the bread....which to me seems WAY more of a departure from "normal" eating than cutting carbs.....*SIGH*.0 -
I've done this, and I really don't recommend it.
Try a green juice fast for a couple days instead.0 -
Without a medical reason to do so, which I'm assuming you don't have if you have no eating plan from a doctor, cutting out vegetables is a bad idea. If you are not taking vitamin supplements you'll likely need to eat some raw liver.0
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This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
Taking off the infini-quotes:
I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!
Any voractiy is due to conditioning after a year of giving people solid well thought out advice on the topic, only to have people that have no interest in low carb come into the threads and s**t on everyone.
It really does not help when you call people who do decide that low/no carb is not for them 'weak willed' in your first (or maybe it was your second) post. I do not do it because I do not see the point. You do it because you do.
Yet generally my point stands. YOU may have decided that it doesn't make sense to you, but there are many, many people that come to these forums, or have come to me in real life and said "I've literally tried everything to loose weight and can't! You've been able to and look healthy and are gaining muscle in the gym, what should I do?!"
Soon as you mention cutting some carbs they immediately (9 times in 10) "Oh, I don't know, I couldn't give up my bread/pasta/cookies/ice cream/<insert over processed carb laden food here>!" Weak. They'd rather stay fat and eat these foods...and I know a few of them personally that have continued to beat their heads into the wall doing these same types of things, not loosing or even gaining weight...but even TRYING to cut carbs is so crazy they won't give it a shot. Most of them would try a raw vegan diet before just laying off the bread....which to me seems WAY more of a departure from "normal" eating than cutting carbs.....*SIGH*.
I eat low carb. I do not think people are weak because they won't go on a low-carb diet. If another diet is working for them, why not stick with it? And if someone would rather try to lose weight while having the occasional cookie, or eating grains, what business is it of mine? And would you be so nasty to a low-carb dieter who couldn't give up their eggs/cheese/steak?0 -
I'm considering it but not sure yet. A friend just lost 8 lbs in 5 days but I know everyone is different.
Um, water weight.0 -
I'm not an advocate for low carb at all for several reasons, the foremost of which is cellular respiration. Without going into the sciency nerdy stuff, carbohydrates are easy for your body to break down into simpler sugars to feed into the Krebs cycle. The Krebs Cycle makes several different energy molecules (NADH, FADH2, ATP) which your body can use to actually function. While the body can feed other molecules, like proteins, into the Krebs cycle, it doesn't like to and you will find that you have less energy than you should have when eating healthy balanced meals.
There are no lasting quick fixes. Eat healthy, exercise and be patient. Think of this as a lifestyle change, not a diet if you want to keep it off for good.
Also, please don't watch Dr. Oz unless you prefer sensationalism to science.0 -
You people are funny.0
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I am currently on the bacon diet. You add bacon to everything as long as it isn't white. So I eat bacon-wrapped asparagus, bacon and peanut butter, and bacon with bacon.
Bacon is the answer.0 -
Soon as you mention cutting some carbs they immediately (9 times in 10) "Oh, I don't know, I couldn't give up my bread/pasta/cookies/ice cream/<insert over processed carb laden food here>!" Weak.
You don't have to go low carb to give up the things you've mentioned above, though.0 -
It's not a sustainable diet. Try high carb, low fat, raw vegan for a week and see how you feel. If it's all about losing weight fast, try a juice fast. You can lose 2 LBS a day juice fasting. A low carb diet will just put you into ketosis.I'm considering it but not sure yet. A friend just lost 8 lbs in 5 days but I know everyone is different.
Actually, it can be a sustainable diet. I have been doing low carb (eating less than 20 g net carbs daily) since February and I have no intention of stopping. I feel better overall, have more energy, am less tired, eat less, have lost weight (still losing but adding strength training and rock climbing), and I can run longer than I ever could. Oh, and I no longer have disgestive issues, nor feel bloated or anything. I do make sure to hit my macros, get my nutrients, and drink a lot of water (read: usually 14 cups daily at leaast). I have also had blood work down in that time and I have gone from having very high cholestoral and everything to everything being in the "normal" range. And, it will not necessairly put you in ketosis, that was the point of mine, but you can eat low carb and not enter ketosis. It's all a matter of what works for you and what you want to do. Granted, I know low carb is not for everyone but it is an option for people, and is sustainable.0 -
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
Taking off the infini-quotes:
I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!
Any voractiy is due to conditioning after a year of giving people solid well thought out advice on the topic, only to have people that have no interest in low carb come into the threads and s**t on everyone.
It really does not help when you call people who do decide that low/no carb is not for them 'weak willed' in your first (or maybe it was your second) post. I do not do it because I do not see the point. You do it because you do.
Yet generally my point stands. YOU may have decided that it doesn't make sense to you, but there are many, many people that come to these forums, or have come to me in real life and said "I've literally tried everything to loose weight and can't! You've been able to and look healthy and are gaining muscle in the gym, what should I do?!"
Soon as you mention cutting some carbs they immediately (9 times in 10) "Oh, I don't know, I couldn't give up my bread/pasta/cookies/ice cream/<insert over processed carb laden food here>!" Weak. They'd rather stay fat and eat these foods...and I know a few of them personally that have continued to beat their heads into the wall doing these same types of things, not loosing or even gaining weight...but even TRYING to cut carbs is so crazy they won't give it a shot. Most of them would try a raw vegan diet before just laying off the bread....which to me seems WAY more of a departure from "normal" eating than cutting carbs.....*SIGH*.
*Sigh* is right. You have decided to encompass everyone who decides eating carbs works for than in a sweeping statement of being weak willed. Some people may be, but IMO it is not exactly appropriate to apply that to everyone as you have been doing. I chose to give up meat for personal reasons - I loved the taste but I have not eaten it for about 23 years, which to me indicates being pretty string willed when it comes to food. But apparently because I choose not to give up carbs because I do not feel it is necessary, you are effectively calling me weak willed. I honestly scratch my head at that logic.0 -
anyone have a sample menu for a no carb diet?
Not no carb but low carb:
http://www.theketogenicdiet.org/sample-ketogenic-diet-menu/
If it works for you: cool beans. If you feel dreadful on it then for any extended length of time then ditch it. Don't let someone sell you the line that it is somehow your fault because you haven't given it long enough, become fat adapted etc, etc...0 -
Actually, it can be a sustainable diet. I have been doing low carb (eating less than 20 g net carbs daily) since February and I have no intention of stopping.
Low carb can be sustainable (depending on the person) but it's not the same thing as no carb.0 -
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(I make a molten lava cake far superior to anything I've EVER had in a restaurant using no wheat, sugar or other garbage)
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I'd like that recipe for the molten lava cake!0 -
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
Taking off the infini-quotes:
I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!
Any voractiy is due to conditioning after a year of giving people solid well thought out advice on the topic, only to have people that have no interest in low carb come into the threads and s**t on everyone.
It really does not help when you call people who do decide that low/no carb is not for them 'weak willed' in your first (or maybe it was your second) post. I do not do it because I do not see the point. You do it because you do.
Yet generally my point stands. YOU may have decided that it doesn't make sense to you, but there are many, many people that come to these forums, or have come to me in real life and said "I've literally tried everything to loose weight and can't! You've been able to and look healthy and are gaining muscle in the gym, what should I do?!"
Soon as you mention cutting some carbs they immediately (9 times in 10) "Oh, I don't know, I couldn't give up my bread/pasta/cookies/ice cream/<insert over processed carb laden food here>!" Weak. They'd rather stay fat and eat these foods...and I know a few of them personally that have continued to beat their heads into the wall doing these same types of things, not loosing or even gaining weight...but even TRYING to cut carbs is so crazy they won't give it a shot. Most of them would try a raw vegan diet before just laying off the bread....which to me seems WAY more of a departure from "normal" eating than cutting carbs.....*SIGH*.
*Sigh* is right. You have decided to encompass everyone who decides eating carbs works for than in a sweeping statement of being weak willed. Some people may be, but IMO it is not exactly appropriate to apply that to everyone as you have been doing. I chose to give up meat for personal reasons - I loved the taste but I have not eaten it for about 23 years, which to me indicates being pretty string willed when it comes to food. But apparently because I choose not to give up carbs because I do not feel it is necessary, you are effectively calling me weak willed. I honestly scratch my head at that logic.
Wow, you really have a hard time reading what people are saying apparently....
What I am saying is that most of the time those that continue to fail at conventional diets, or whatever, are so tied to their carb laden franken foods that they won't even entertain the idea of giving them up, even if that means better health, weight loss, etc without them.0
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