no carb diet
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Yes, a diet that won't allow you to eat fresh vegetables because they have carbohydrates sounds like a successful one.0
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you could also try South Beach Diet which teaches you to eat good carbs vs bad carbs.
Kalyn's Kitchen is an excellent site that has all kinds of recipes that are South Beach friendly...and very tasty!0 -
I so agree - most of what he does now is just a money making machine.......so sad I thought he had potential..Oh I will watch Dr Oz
Don't
He endorses so many quack remedies. It's always something new. As far as I'm concerned, just stay far far away
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anyone have a sample menu for a no carb diet?
Lots of good recipes & links to blogs on PInterest. One blog I really love is Living Low Carb...One day at a Time. http://lconeday.blogspot.com/0 -
I love low carb! I have seen great results and I feel so much better than when I'm eating grains and sugars.I also eat more veggies now than I ever did! Atkins.com has great recipes but my day usually looks like this
Breakfast: Eggs (omelets, fried, baked, hard boiled, etc)
Lunch: Big lettuce salad with cheese, hard boiled egg, homemade vinagerette or store bought blue cheese, mushrooms, green peppers, olives (whatever you like)
Dinner: I make a huge variety for dinner but a lot are recipes I used before but instead of serving it with rice, potatoes, pasta, I serve it alone or over vegetables. Then a side salad and another side of veggies
Good luck and don't listen to all those negative people 0 -
Atkins induction meal plan (lo to no carb diet)--everyone doesn't gain the weight back. My 24 y/o dtr did Atkins induction when she was about 16 and in less than 2 mos she loss 40lbs. As of today, she has pretty much maintained that weight loss though she is no longer on this program. I'm not judgmental--whatever works for you, go for it. Hope you find the plan that works for you. 0
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DO NOT go on a NO carb diet. I did about 20 years ago and after about a month I was in the emergency room 3 different times with heart rhythm problems. Atrial tachycardia, which is very dangerous. There are nutrients in carb foods you MUST have. Taking a vitamin supplement isn't enough. A low carb diet is a good way to lose weight fast without being hungry, but please take this warning seriously.
Edit: I went on the Atkins diet, but I knew if I didn't eat ANY carbs, I would lose weight much faster, which I did. I lost 30 pounds in less than a month and ate mostly meat, cheese, and eggs. That's when the trouble began. At that time the doctors in the ER didn't think it was the diet, but I have found out later that many more people have done the same thing, with the same results. Go to the Atkins site and search for heart rhythm problems. I did and that's where I read about people who actually died from the same thing.0 -
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It's nearly impossible to consume no carbohydrates whatsoever unless you only eat meat and nothing else.
^^^^ This! Veggies have carbs---it would be impossible to eat no carb unless you ate just meat all day.0 -
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
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I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!
Any voractiy is due to conditioning after a year of giving people solid well thought out advice on the topic, only to have people that have no interest in low carb come into the threads and s**t on everyone.
It really does not help when you call people who do decide that low/no carb is not for them 'weak willed' in your first (or maybe it was your second) post. I do not do it because I do not see the point. You do it because you do.
Yet generally my point stands. YOU may have decided that it doesn't make sense to you, but there are many, many people that come to these forums, or have come to me in real life and said "I've literally tried everything to loose weight and can't! You've been able to and look healthy and are gaining muscle in the gym, what should I do?!"
Soon as you mention cutting some carbs they immediately (9 times in 10) "Oh, I don't know, I couldn't give up my bread/pasta/cookies/ice cream/<insert over processed carb laden food here>!" Weak. They'd rather stay fat and eat these foods...and I know a few of them personally that have continued to beat their heads into the wall doing these same types of things, not loosing or even gaining weight...but even TRYING to cut carbs is so crazy they won't give it a shot. Most of them would try a raw vegan diet before just laying off the bread....which to me seems WAY more of a departure from "normal" eating than cutting carbs.....*SIGH*.
*Sigh* is right. You have decided to encompass everyone who decides eating carbs works for than in a sweeping statement of being weak willed. Some people may be, but IMO it is not exactly appropriate to apply that to everyone as you have been doing. I chose to give up meat for personal reasons - I loved the taste but I have not eaten it for about 23 years, which to me indicates being pretty string willed when it comes to food. But apparently because I choose not to give up carbs because I do not feel it is necessary, you are effectively calling me weak willed. I honestly scratch my head at that logic.
Wow, you really have a hard time reading what people are saying apparently....
What I am saying is that most of the time those that continue to fail at conventional diets, or whatever, are so tied to their carb laden franken foods that they won't even entertain the idea of giving them up, even if that means better health, weight loss, etc without them.
And again with the aggressive response. And I fail to see what your response has to do with my specific comments about generalizations so, right back atcha.
To quote you:
"Carbs can be fuel, but why not use your own fat? Rice, oatmeal, pasta, bread, the occasional slice of cake or cookie are all garbage foods for those with weak willpower and can't stick to a whole food diet. Go for whole-grain or multi-grain and potentially suffer bloat and other side effects of genetically engineered wheat! "
And I will wait for yet another attack on my reading comprehension.....0 -
And just as a point of interest, Lyle McDonald (who authored "The Ketogenic Diet", has this to say:Not no carb but low carb:
http://www.theketogenicdiet.org/sample-ketogenic-diet-menu/
If it works for you: cool beans. If you feel dreadful on it then for any extended length of time then ditch it. Don't let someone sell you the line that it is somehow your fault because you haven't given it long enough, become fat adapted etc, etc...
"My opinion on ketogenic diets is this: ketogenic diets are one of many (ok, three) dietary approaches available. They have advantages and disadvantages (like all diets). They are appropriate under some circumstances, relatively neutral under others, and entirely inappropriate under still other circumstances. They are not magic but they work tremendously well for some people and absolutely horribly for other. There are still questions regarding their long-term effects."
Link to the article is here: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/comparing-the-diets-part-4.html0 -
If you are going to try no to low carb diets I really recommend you buy the books on the diets and read them first - they explain a lot more about HOW to do it instead of just reading a PDF and going for it. I actually read the books (Atkins and South Beach) and decided that no to low carb was not for me.
Complex carbs: whole grains, beans, legumes, etc are excellent ways of eating healthy, getting lots of fiber and keeping you feeling full.
The other side is the Rice Diet, where you start off Phase I eating only carbs (complex preferred) and fruit. Then adding veg and then fish or meat/alternatives into your diet.
Basic math is actually what works the best - calories in and calories out. Then logic: the better and more healthy the food choices the more full you will feel and the better your body will function.0 -
I am starting to enjoy these types of threads. It helps weed out the *kitten* so that I can add them to my ignore list!
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anyone have a sample menu for a no carb diet?
Can't see any point for such a thing. If you're below about 30g of carbs you achieve the same state of "nutritional ketosis" as you would at zero grams so there's no motivation or need really.0 -
you could also try South Beach Diet which teaches you to eat good carbs vs bad carbs.
Kalyn's Kitchen is an excellent site that has all kinds of recipes that are South Beach friendly...and very tasty!
I do south beach and I love Kalyn's Kitchen.0 -
Your brain needs carbs to function. Try just limiting to small amounts early in the day, so your can burn before bed. Also stay away from processed foods. Stick to multigrain breads, brown or wild rice and sweet potatoes in stead of white. You get the idea.0
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Actually, it can be a sustainable diet. I have been doing low carb (eating less than 20 g net carbs daily) since February and I have no intention of stopping.
Low carb can be sustainable (depending on the person) but it's not the same thing as no carb.
Very true. I ignored the no carb part, sorry. No carb would not be a good idea or sustainable. Low carb is. Should have put that in my first post.0 -
interesting thread. I am a diabetic and eat no wheat products, I eat meat and veggies, small portions of brown rice and/or beans(1/3 a cup serving at a time) oatmeal, nuts and fruits and keep my carbs about 15-40 a meal. If I eat wheat products, with my meds I am hungry all the time. When I limit my carbs, and increase my protein, I'm not ready to eat the desk. Not everybody is the same, what works for some doesn't work for all. I wouldn't cut out all veggies and or fruit. Yes your brain runs on sugar which your body makes easiest from carbs, but everything turns into sugar. If I eat eggs, and then test my sugar goes up, not as much or as fast as with watermelon, but it does. Don't Fad diet, eat healthy and exercise. It's not a race, you didn't gain the weight overnight, you ain't gonna lose it overnight.0
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What I am saying is that most of the time those that continue to fail at conventional diets, or whatever, are so tied to their carb laden franken foods that they won't even entertain the idea of giving them up, even if that means better health, weight loss, etc without them.
These people you say come to you for help, and are really this addicted to carbs, do you suggest a moderate carb diet using whole grains, vegetables and fruit for the carbs? Or do you lead them to think that low carb is the only option?
For those that are "addicted' to carbs or simply like them too much to be satisfied without them (I think true addition is fairly rare) this would seem the more sensible approach. Even if low carb / no grain is the ultimate goal, cold turkey is very hard for most people.. Even if they continue at a high carb diet, switching simple and processed carbs for whole can make a huge difference for health and would likely make weight loss easier for them.0 -
If you are eating meat and fat you are getting 0 carbs, there is no reason to quibble about the super minute amount that MIGHT be found in meat (as long as you are eating real, whole meat, and not store bought jerky or something).
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Yup. Some folk just lovez to quibble.0 -
<snip> If you are not taking vitamin supplements you'll likely need to eat some raw liver.
You make that sound like a bad thing. :frown:0 -
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
Taking off the infini-quotes:
I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!
Did you really mean "voracity" here? If so, I must be missing the context.
vo·raci·ty (-rs-t), vo·racious·ness (-rshs-ns) n.
Synonyms: voracious, gluttonous, rapacious, ravenous
These adjectives mean having or marked by boundless greed: a voracious reader of history; a gluttonous consumer of fine foods; a rapacious acquirer of competing businesses; a politician ravenous for power.0 -
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
Taking off the infini-quotes:
I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!
Did you really mean "voracity" here? If so, I must be missing the context.
vo·raci·ty (-rs-t), vo·racious·ness (-rshs-ns) n.
Synonyms: voracious, gluttonous, rapacious, ravenous
These adjectives mean having or marked by boundless greed: a voracious reader of history; a gluttonous consumer of fine foods; a rapacious acquirer of competing businesses; a politician ravenous for power.
I did (sort of a frothing of the mouth image in my head), but I hadn't considered the irony of its nuances!! :happy:0 -
<snip> If you are not taking vitamin supplements you'll likely need to eat some raw liver.
You make that sound like a bad thing. :frown:
Did I? It was just a statement. Though not being a fan of cooked liver I can't imagine I would care much for it raw either so there I won't deny the thought.0 -
I am starting to enjoy these types of threads. It helps weed out the *kitten* so that I can add them to my ignore list!
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<snip> If you are not taking vitamin supplements you'll likely need to eat some raw liver.
You make that sound like a bad thing. :frown:
Did I? It was just a statement. Though not being a fan of cooked liver I can't imagine I would care much for it raw either so there I won't deny the thought.
Just messin' with ya. I love beef liver. Raw, rare or as jerky. Hated it growing up because my mom would overcook it.0 -
This argument will never be won on either side, and MFP is always hostile to low carbers, but I still come here a lot, because damn it, I love you all in a very disfucntional family kind of way.
Taking off the infini-quotes:
I find this ironic considering the voracity of your responses!
Did you really mean "voracity" here? If so, I must be missing the context.
vo·raci·ty (-rs-t), vo·racious·ness (-rshs-ns) n.
Synonyms: voracious, gluttonous, rapacious, ravenous
These adjectives mean having or marked by boundless greed: a voracious reader of history; a gluttonous consumer of fine foods; a rapacious acquirer of competing businesses; a politician ravenous for power.
I did (sort of a frothing of the mouth image in my head), but I hadn't considered the irony of its nuances!! :happy:
This is a fun thread. Have a great weekend! 0 -
I am currently doing the Pink Method which eliminates carbs on the reset portion of the program (which can last anywhere from 3-14 days depending on your SW). Then adds the carbs back in slowly once the workout starts in Phase 1 of the program. So during reset for Breakfast I usually have a protein shake (Whey protein, fruit., I like bananas & blueberries, and almond milk) Then for lunch & dinner I have a light protein (baked fish, chicken, etc) and all the veggies I can eat all day. Because fruits have carbs you are only allowed whats in the shake in the morning.
I have been 1 month on the program and have already lost 12 lbs (14 days on reset to jump start the weight loss & 16 days in phase 1)
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I know people who have done the 'hcg diet" im sure this is not liked here but they eat low carb, if you search recipes for phase 2 and 3 you could find some that way 0
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My cousin does this we live together so I usually see him eating the following,
Eggs
Bacon
Random types of Meats (roast, porkchops, hamburger)
Chicken Breasts
Green beans (in the skillet)
Brocolli occasionally
He's lost alot of weight but he doesnt really work out other than his walk home from work so his skin is kinda flappy.
I will usually eat any of the meat he cooks, but I'm not as low carb as he is. I just try and stay away from sweets, and sodas. And watch my general amount of food im eating. My excercise usually consists of Softball and Bike Riding, mild weights lifting.0
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