Smoking Neighbours

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  • kayemme
    kayemme Posts: 1,782 Member
    And I also think your response is thoughtful, I was just answering a question :)
  • whitewhisper
    whitewhisper Posts: 76

    He was living there first. There are steps she can take to prevent the smoke from entering. She should have done her due diligence.

    I realize that in the land of the "free," everyone is allowed to walk all over everyone else, and "first come-first serve" is how things work, but up here, where everyone has equal rights, it doesn't matter if the guy smoking were the pope, I still have the right to live in a comfortable environment, windows open or closed.

    I'm with you on this one. My parents used to smoke so when I was younger I could stand the smell. They have since quit and now I think it is one of the most disgusting smells ever. You should definitely have the right to breath clean air in your own home, I would do anything you can to get this guy to smoke somewhere else, or if the smoke doesn't bother him (which is clearly doesn't) get him to smoke with his windows closed so he can stink up his own apartment.

    Also what's with the *kitten* replies?
  • mgobluetx12
    mgobluetx12 Posts: 1,326 Member
    I totally agree with the above. Wow, what a bunch of jerks and you know who you are. Can't you find something more productive to do with your time than antagonize the OP and make rude comments and misspell abhor?
  • AmyFett
    AmyFett Posts: 1,607 Member
    I totally agree with the above. Wow, what a bunch of jerks and you know who you are. Can't you find something more productive to do with your time than pick on the OP and make rude comments and misspell abhorr?

    don't you have anything better to do than correct peoples' spelling? =)
  • meerkat70
    meerkat70 Posts: 4,605 Member
    It's interesting how it's ok to give other people cancer.

    I've never seen a lease where tenants are permitted to smoke in the property.

    Good point well made.

    I assume the obnoxious bros on the thread are the variety of smoker who assert 'you can take my cigarette from my cold dead hand'.

    Obviously it's *entirely unreasonable* that a non-smoker not want to indulge in someone else's death wish.

    I'm a non-smoker and abhorr cigarettes.

    Sames.

    Just because you dont like something doesn't mean you should take away others right to do that thing :)

    And how could anyone not like being slowly poisoned by someone else's habit.... yeah that makes perfect sense. He's free to choose to poison her, and all she needs is a little air freshener.

    Rofl
  • ChasingSweatandTears
    ChasingSweatandTears Posts: 504 Member
    By nature, smoking is rude because they can't consume 100% of the pollution. What other voluntary behavior enters other people's bodies without permission? Spoils the taste of their meals? We have to understand that smokers are often defensive because they would rather not face that they're trapped in an addiction.

    Driving automobiles and factories. But nobody minds that do long as they can get a $5 shirt and a whopper.
    I can get a T shirt at Burger King? Sweet! lol
  • veganbaum
    veganbaum Posts: 1,865 Member
    By nature, smoking is rude because they can't consume 100% of the pollution. What other voluntary behavior enters other people's bodies without permission? Spoils the taste of their meals? We have to understand that smokers are often defensive because they would rather not face that they're trapped in an addiction.

    However, unlike forums and anonymous letters, most people react positively in person when someone politely informs them of a discomfort they're causing. Letting someone know that each time he/she smokes, you know it because your windows are open may just be enough to reduce (probably not eliminate) it. Talk of allergies and illness may be less effective, because it's hard to convince someone comfortable in a thick cloud that the invisible smell that annoys you is significant. Letting the landlord know why you want an accommodation may have a long-term benefit, if enough of us do so. That's how restaurants and hotels have learned not to be cowed by aggressive smokers.

    Most importantly, don't take it personally because the smoking is not meant to be against us. Smokers are just blind (or the olfactory equivalent) to how much it takes away from others' quality of life. Be sure that the owner, not just the manager, knows why you've decided to find a new place next year. Good luck!

    Excellent point about letting the owner and manager know why a person wants to change apartments or be let out of a lease when it's something like this. If a person doesn't say anything management would never know. Maybe it won't change anything, but if enough people speak up there's always the possibility that it could. I would never have believed I could go to any restaurant in my city without having to be exposed to cigarette smoke, but it happened. If it's something that can affect a business positively or negatively, they'll change things to keep or increase their profits.
  • whitewhisper
    whitewhisper Posts: 76
    It's interesting how it's ok to give other people cancer.

    I've never seen a lease where tenants are permitted to smoke in the property.

    Good point well made.

    I assume the obnoxious bros on the thread are the variety of smoker who assert 'you can take my cigarette from my cold dead hand'.

    Obviously it's *entirely unreasonable* that a non-smoker not want to indulge in someone else's death wish.

    I'm a non-smoker and abhorr cigarettes.

    Sames.

    Just because you dont like something doesn't mean you should take away others right to do that thing :)

    And how could anyone not like being slowly poisoned by someone else's habit.... yeah that makes perfect sense. He's free to choose to poison her, and all she needs is a little air freshener.

    Rofl

    YES.
  • ChasingSweatandTears
    ChasingSweatandTears Posts: 504 Member
    It's interesting how it's ok to give other people cancer.

    I've never seen a lease where tenants are permitted to smoke in the property.

    Good point well made.

    I assume the obnoxious bros on the thread are the variety of smoker who assert 'you can take my cigarette from my cold dead hand'.

    Obviously it's *entirely unreasonable* that a non-smoker not want to indulge in someone else's death wish.

    I'm a non-smoker and abhorr cigarettes.

    Sames.

    Just because you dont like something doesn't mean you should take away others right to do that thing :)

    And how could anyone not like being slowly poisoned by someone else's habit.... yeah that makes perfect sense. He's free to choose to poison her, and all she needs is a little air freshener.

    Rofl

    Yeah that made me laugh out loud as well! :)
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    And how could anyone not like being slowly poisoned by someone else's habit.... yeah that makes perfect sense. He's free to choose to poison her, and all she needs is a little air freshener.

    Yeah, I saw the advice to use air freshener too. Air freshener - awesome solution. Spray a bunch of crap into the air. Add some more nasty chemicals to the mix. Air fresheners are not good for asthma either.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    The OP has been antagonized from the beginning of this thread, they were trying to respond civilly and finally had it with the rudeness, then stated "go blow a dead goat"
    okaaay... not the most mature or civil one liner, but hell I can hardly blame them for it at this point. Waaay too many people were making this personal, when the only one personally affected IS the OP.

    And making fun of people for being polite by saying "a group hug is needed" hardly proves you are NOT indeed the rude person you seem to be. It only enforces that you are sarcastic and rude and implies that you somehow think hugs are bad :) lol

    I was trying to bring levity to the thread. :(
  • Aleluya17
    Aleluya17 Posts: 205 Member
    I'm with the jerks.
  • urglewurgle
    urglewurgle Posts: 224 Member
    I'm a smoker but agree that ou should maybe have a word with him. It's not fair on you. Yes he has a right to smoke but it is unhealthy and is effecting you, you have a right to breathe clean air and I think it's unreasonable to suggest you should have checked this out before hand! You shoukdn't have to ask if your neighbours might be breathing carcinogenic fumes into your new apartment! If it was noise pollution from loud music then you'd ask him (politely) to turn it down right?

    Have you ever spoken to him before? It might be easier to broach the subject if you're already aquatinted... I'd just be polite and casual, ask him if he could smoke in a slightly different location, just so it doesn't blow in your window. I think that's a perfectly reasonable request.
  • osualex
    osualex Posts: 409 Member
    I'm with most people - you can close your windows, get a fan, get some Febreeze, etc. Or, if you have an allergy to smoke (and if hs second hand smoke is giving you physical symptoms you might) just go talk to him! To me, you seem like the rude one for assuming he'll be unreasonable to your request. I smoke, and if someone told me *politely* that my second hand smoke was giving them an allergic reaction...I'd smoke somewhere else. I highly doubt your neighbor is smoking just to piss you off.
  • Arexxx
    Arexxx Posts: 486 Member
    I'm with the jerks.

    ahahaha, This.
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
    So, I went and spoke to him. Had a nice, friendly, 30 minute conversation about it. He was very receptive.

    He's back on his balcony, smoking up my apartment as I type this.

    So now you guys are going to tell me to live in a bubble for the next 9 months of my life, or blow a ton of cash, trying to get the smell out of the air.

    Thanks.
  • lkcuts
    lkcuts Posts: 224
    If nothing else works and you are stuck, invest in a good air purifier for your apartment.. if you are allergic to the smoke bet you are also to dust, mold etc. the air purifer keeps all that down for you. Good luck!
  • grrrlface
    grrrlface Posts: 1,204 Member
    If I were you I'd just talk to your neighbour.

    They don't know you're sensitive if you haven't told them. They may be more considerate in future if they knew.

    ETA: They may not be though, in which case all they're going to tell you to do is shut your window, like so many others here have said.
  • Glassjaw01
    Glassjaw01 Posts: 17
    I think you're overreacting.

    Have you ever lived above a chain smoker? It is f'n awful.
  • roachhaley
    roachhaley Posts: 978 Member
    So, I went and spoke to him. Had a nice, friendly, 30 minute conversation about it. He was very receptive.

    He's back on his balcony, smoking up my apartment as I type this.

    So now you guys are going to tell me to live in a bubble for the next 9 months of my life, or blow a ton of cash, trying to get the smell out of the air.

    Thanks.

    It's not our fault you signed a lease. If you wanted to get up and move all willy nilly, you shouldn't have signed a binding contract. Not really anyone else's fault.
  • Glassjaw01
    Glassjaw01 Posts: 17
    find out a way to piss him off
  • barkin43
    barkin43 Posts: 508 Member
    i have a neighbor with a rooster. i live in the city. that rooster wakes me up every morning at the crack of dawn. if i had a real problem with it, i'd just go talk with them about it.

    it's really so very simple.

    when you live in a city, you live with other people. your rights don't usurp their rights. they can't know if you don't tell them. telling "mommy" (i.e. landlord) is a childish move and will likely make the neighbor more irritated that you didn't speak with him directly. but it's your call. you can learn to be neighborly now or you can live in a neighborhood being "that one" that everybody avoids.

    Oh, goody! Fried chicken!
  • barkin43
    barkin43 Posts: 508 Member
    Logic != Evil-jerky-meaniehead


    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :noway:
  • barkin43
    barkin43 Posts: 508 Member
    Logic != Evil-jerky-meaniehead

    I don't necessarily disagree with your opinion, but there is something called tact. You can get your point across without being a douche.

    It's kind of late, I'm not a fluffy bunny when I'm tired. :-) I agree I haven't been sympathetic but I haven't been mean.

    To add a positive note -- you HAVE been kinda funny!! And entertaining! Oh, did I mention logical? That, too.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :drinker:
  • tross0924
    tross0924 Posts: 909 Member
    I didn't see if you talked to your landlord yet, but what I'd do is tell him you're moving. It can either be to another apartment in his complex or it can be somewhere else. Second hand smoke is a health hazard that you are not required to expose yourself to just because you signed a lease.
  • jus_in_bello
    jus_in_bello Posts: 326 Member

    Have any of you had a similar experience to this? What did you do about it? I *can* move, but by which time, it would be winter. I'm also from the country, so I hate living with my windows closed all the time...

    Learn to live with the windows closed and buy some candles. They make scentless candles that absorb scent or something, check those out. Do you have a courtyard style apartment, could he smoke at the front of his apartment rather than the back?
  • tonyacoursey
    tonyacoursey Posts: 404 Member
    If you are that sensitive to smoke then you should not have your windows open. If you are used to living in the country then maybe a move back would serve you well. I have allergies to lots of things and I have learned that although I love the outdoors, leaving my windows open are not an option. Or, if I choose to, then no complaining about the consequences.
  • ceecee7636
    ceecee7636 Posts: 37 Member
    Honestly. Smoking is banned in: All public buildings, bars, restaurants and most people complain when there are smokers in the outdoors areas such as balconies and outside bars etc not to mention some of the medical community trying to ban smoking in your own car. Not happy with that folk are now complaining when someone smokes IN THEIR OWN HOUSE.

    Seriously you need to suck it up, close your windows or move. You cannot expect the guy downstairs not to smoke in a Apt that he either owns or rents i.e pays good money for.
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
    Honestly. Smoking is banned in: All public buildings, bars, restaurants and most people complain when there are smokers in the outdoors areas such as balconies and outside bars etc not to mention some of the medical community trying to ban smoking in your own car. Not happy with that folk are now complaining when someone smokes IN THEIR OWN HOUSE.

    Seriously you need to suck it up, close your windows or move. You cannot expect the guy downstairs not to smoke in a Apt that he either owns or rents i.e pays good money for.

    Did I once mention that I thought he should stop? Try reading the entire thread.
  • onedayillbeamilf
    onedayillbeamilf Posts: 966 Member
    Close your windows and open the blinds. Same view, different smell.

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