WHY are some people jerks on mfp? (philosophically...)
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I'm actually wondering. I'm not questioning their existence, or crying about some jerk who bullied me...I'm just wondering...Why do ya'll think there are so many?
Is there some kind of gene that we all have that makes people on MFP more likely to be overly assertive DBs?....Are we all control freaks because we count calories obsessively? Are the ones of us who *don't* count calories obsessively but use MFP as a general tool but then get riled up to be lumped into the same category as the rest of us just defensive naturally?
I'M WONDERING! Gimme your theories!
Sometimes a discussion needs an opposing view. A counterpoint. And sometimes, people post such inane, uninformed topics that they need to be called on it.0 -
I'm not bambi....I am honestly wondering WHY people think there are jerks on here! Some people have responded to that question...
wait - are you asking why there are so many jerks or are you asking why people think there are jerks?
you have changed your original question in a semi-backtracking type motion. youve also been here long enough to know what these threads do.
MFP doesnt work like boy scouts - you dont get a special badge when you make one of these threads. Unless its the - 'lots of people just lost respect for you!' badge.0 -
Stirring the pot burns calories??0
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I’m British, and get 99% of the humour and cultural references. It’s because I’m widely read, I post on the Internet and 99% of the things I post people get upset about, mainly because they do not get the humour or gist of my post. I draw only one conclusion.0
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And, having been here since May 2011, you can honestly say a) you've never read an *identical thread* (every single day.... ) and b) you've never seen such threads rapidly descend into drama... ?
Hang on. Someone's tugging my leg. I hear the sound of bells.
I haven't ever read a "why are people jerks" thread. Yes, I've read a "MFP people are so mean!" thread, multiple times. And I'm aware of how seemingly benign threads descend into drama....Why do they descend into drama--I perceive it to be because of jerks inciting inflammatory responses with poisonous statements which could be said in a much nicer, more effective way. I'm simply asking the question: WHY do people behave this way? If it descends into drama....That's just something that might happen!0 -
OP don't respond to these posts--the poster is being a jerk. On purpose--gets off on it.
Oh hi person who has never had a conversation with me, declaring me a jerk, on the internet, who gets my jollies being awful to people.
I believe this makes you a jerk too!
:drinker: cheers *kitten*!0 -
wait - are you asking why there are so many jerks or are you asking why people think there are jerks?
you have changed your original question in a semi-backtracking type motion. youve also been here long enough to know what these threads do.
MFP doesnt work like boy scouts - you dont get a special badge when you make one of these threads. Unless its the - 'lots of people just lost respect for you!' badge.
Actually I haven't changed my question. You can read my original post, it hasn't been edited. The title of this thread is "WHY are some people jerks on mfp? (philosophically)" So I'm wondering, why, at the *heart* of the matter--are there so many jerks on mfp--and yes, I'm wondering what *other people* think on this topic. Sorry to be confusing...0 -
Gee, I've never seen this topic before...0
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People here don't generally know each other in person, so they say things on here that they would never say to someones face, or even on Facebook or Twitter. :noway:0
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People here don't generally know each other in person, so they say things on here that they would never say to someones face, or even on Facebook or Twitter. :noway:
like calling everyone who isnt like them, a jerk.0 -
wait - are you asking why there are so many jerks or are you asking why people think there are jerks?
you have changed your original question in a semi-backtracking type motion. youve also been here long enough to know what these threads do.
MFP doesnt work like boy scouts - you dont get a special badge when you make one of these threads. Unless its the - 'lots of people just lost respect for you!' badge.
You are unbelievable. She asked why some people are jerks on MFP because she wants to know what people think.0 -
I'm actually wondering. I'm not questioning their existence, or crying about some jerk who bullied me...I'm just wondering...Why do ya'll think there are so many?
Is there some kind of gene that we all have that makes people on MFP more likely to be overly assertive DBs?....Are we all control freaks because we count calories obsessively? Are the ones of us who *don't* count calories obsessively but use MFP as a general tool but then get riled up to be lumped into the same category as the rest of us just defensive naturally?
I'M WONDERING! Gimme your theories!
I'm sorry, perhaps you two don't know eachother...OP, meet the Internet.0 -
You are unbelievable. She asked why some people are jerks on MFP because she wants to know what people think.
No, you are an insulter and it doesnt help prove your points.
What she said - and I'll quote again is:I am honestly wondering WHY people think there are jerks on here!
and honestly, youre one of the most hateful prejudiced people on this site so I really dont want to hear anything else out of your mouth directed at me.
Your hateful spewing and snap judgments on people based on their level of success is embarassing and if you think people cannot notice a pattern among all your MFP posts each time we cross your path.... you are painfully mistaken and dont realise you have a negative reputation on a support group site.
Best wishes.
have fun on silent mode. Zzzzz0 -
I'm actually wondering. I'm not questioning their existence, or crying about some jerk who bullied me...I'm just wondering...Why do ya'll think there are so many?
Is there some kind of gene that we all have that makes people on MFP more likely to be overly assertive DBs?....Are we all control freaks because we count calories obsessively? Are the ones of us who *don't* count calories obsessively but use MFP as a general tool but then get riled up to be lumped into the same category as the rest of us just defensive naturally?
I'M WONDERING! Gimme your theories!
I'm going to sound cynical here and say that for most people 'jerk' as their default setting. All of the politeness, kindness, and thoughtfulness that you experience is due to their socialization. That's not to say that they're "phony", just that they have learned that the best way to get along in a group/society without being isolated is to learn to play well with others. We've all experienced life lessons where we were taught to share, hold our tongues or otherwise mind the feelings of others. Sometimes the lesson was taught via empathy (putting ourselves into the shoes of another) and sometimes the lesson is taught through harsh repercussions (getting cussed out, not invited along or punched in the nose).
On the internet you are shielded through various layers of electronic "protection" to let your id take over.
I've seen some pretty uncalled for bs on MFP, and I have also seen some shockingly thin skinned people. Noone can objectively say that its all one or the other.0 -
No, you are an insulter and it doesnt help prove your points.
What she said - and I'll quote again is:
and honestly, youre one of the most hateful prejudiced people on this site so I really dont want to hear anything else out of your mouth directed at me.
Your hateful spewing and snap judgments on people based on their level of success is embarassing and if you think people cannot notice a pattern among all your MFP posts each time we cross your path.... you are painfully mistaken and dont realise you have a negative reputation on a support group site.
Best wishes.
have fun on silent mode. Zzzzz
wait...are you talking about me or the other poster?0 -
So I know from running a dating website that when a guy asks a question like, "Why do all women like jerks?" the word "jerk" is defined as "guys who aren't me." So the real question is, "Why don't women like me?"
I'm still trying to figure out the definition of "jerk" on MFP. It can range from someone being a genuine d-bag to just someone disagreeing with them. For the sake of argument, I'd call a jerk someone with no redeeming social value.
Considering it's human nature to complain (ie, How many people will write a nasty letter about bad service at a restaurant, vs how may people will write a letter to praise great service?) and notice things that are worthy of complaining about... I think the ratio of jerks:nice people on here is far lower than the general population. Considering the enormous size of this site, there's only a small handful of people I'd say act like *kitten* on a regular basis. And not even all of them are jerks. Just *kitten*. There's a difference.0 -
It seems to me being blunt or truthful= being a jerk.0
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People here don't generally know each other in person, so they say things on here that they would never say to someones face, or even on Facebook or Twitter. :noway:
You don't know me very well;)0 -
Humans are just like that.
^this...unfortunately lol0 -
It seems to me being blunt or truthful= being a jerk.
Not picking on you, but I hear this a lot and question if its true.
For the record, I've been called 'mean' and 'hurtful' on here simply for telling someone that they would have to eat their veggies, so there its definitely subjective.
However, that doesn't negate the fact that there are certainly some people on here that say things in a way to get a rise out of others. Hiding being the nastiness of a comment on the grounds that it was true (or had an element of truth to it) is a not really sincere. We're often talking about very volatile topics on here like people's physical appearance, and diplomacy is really not that difficult.0 -
A lot of people are jerks because people get tired of the same topics over and over.
There is a **** ton of OMG I GAINED 2 POUNDS!!! WTF!!! HELP ME!!! then when people suggest why and try to help OP, OP goes NO! That is clearly not the case and you don't understand.. I'm doomed to be fat.. wah wah wah.
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I'm only eating 400 calories a day and I'm not losing... why do you think that is? Again, people come in, explain why and try to help and OP goes but it worked before! Why isn't it working now?! and if I eat more, then I'll gain.. You guys just don't understand!
and the list goes on and on.
Too many people have been told they are special snowflakes for far to long.. and then when reality comes in, they freak and can't handle it... and thus complain about how people are bullies
^this as well though0 -
Excellent.Wow! That is a bit ridiculous, don't ya think? Everyone has a tendency to be a jerk sometimes.
For example:
You calling out people you don't know for being jerks because they responded to your question.
Or you creating a post that is obviously going to create drama.
I'm sure you aren't this jerk-y all the time so I forgive you.0 -
No, you are an insulter and it doesnt help prove your points.
What she said - and I'll quote again is:
and honestly, youre one of the most hateful prejudiced people on this site so I really dont want to hear anything else out of your mouth directed at me.
Your hateful spewing and snap judgments on people based on their level of success is embarassing and if you think people cannot notice a pattern among all your MFP posts each time we cross your path.... you are painfully mistaken and dont realise you have a negative reputation on a support group site.
Best wishes.
have fun on silent mode. Zzzzz
Why talk about being hateful. Why don't you point out to me when I have ever made a judgment about someone based on success.
I'm judging YOU based on YOUR ridiculous attitude toward the OP.0 -
that becca person that said I get off on being mean to people.0 -
God bless it.
People, if you're going to troll, pick a new topic. This one was played out 5 years ago...
Take a cue from the cray cray whining about her sister handing out her phone number. That was some pro trolling.
Yes, that was definitely a good one! Nice and original!0 -
Why talk about being hateful. Why don't you point out to me when I have ever made a judgment about someone based on success.
I'm judging YOU based on YOUR ridiculous attitude toward the OP.
^^Are you sure you're not the jerk?0 -
^^Are you sure you're not the jerk?
I am a jerk, but so is she. She just doesn't want to admit that she was intentionally baiting the OP.
Plus, I'm sure that I have never made a judgment about someone based on their sucess. She's just talking ****.0 -
anyone else eaten some great beef jerkey today?0
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I'm actually wondering. I'm not questioning their existence, or crying about some jerk who bullied me...I'm just wondering...Why do ya'll think there are so many?
Is there some kind of gene that we all have that makes people on MFP more likely to be overly assertive DBs?....Are we all control freaks because we count calories obsessively? Are the ones of us who *don't* count calories obsessively but use MFP as a general tool but then get riled up to be lumped into the same category as the rest of us just defensive naturally?
I'M WONDERING! Gimme your theories!
It's not just on MFP OP, it is on all Forums nowadays. I sometimes go on another Forum on a certain conspiracy site that is bloody downright brutal to be honest. Not only are many of the people on there rude, they are downright insulting and deliberately hurtful. One thread on there involved a woman who in her grief, said that her 15 year old son had died a short while back (I am guessing she just wanted to write something down) - one of the replies was to the effect that it was great her son had died and hope she had a happy funeral with a smiley at the end of the posting (there was also mention of hope that he had been raped beforehand)!
Now, I don't know about anybody else, but that verges on criminal to me, especially when that site gives the facility to be able to post anonymously - people just go to town on there, personally I think many of them on there have severe mental illnesses.
The internet is now so cheap and people are able to stay on it all day if they wish, unfortunately this aspect of it also attracts, trolls, pathological liars and psychos that think everything is fair game, including hurting people just because they can.
I will say this, I would lay money on it that 99% of those people would not treat people in such a manner if they were face-to-face with them, can you imagine!0
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