This website has changed!!

mrsyac2

I have to vent real quick.

There is so much whining on this website
I look at the boards and every post I see is someone depressed or upset-
Then if someone gives them Upfront advice other people call it harsh.
Is the boards just a hand holding session?


This website has changed so much. People try to justify binge eating or throwing all there calories away on a meal.
weightloss isn't rocket science its simple Math Burn more then you take in.

It sucks to not see the scale move when you are seriously busting your *kitten* in the gym and watching what you eat but keep pushing through- Challenge yourself set goals for yourself and when you get discouraged just think of those goals.

I have been trying to lose the same 25-28lbs For ever. I fall off track at times i get discouraged but I keep going because if I stop The weight will never come off and I will prob just gain more! So going backwards isn't an option.

As you lose weight and get into another size get rid of all your clothes that were big as I like to call them fat clothes- that way you need to atleast maintain your current size or keep losing because if you gain you will have to run around Naked cause nothing will fit. If you are tempted by crap foods keep them out of the house until you learn to control yourself.

Exercise is just that it's exercising. It isn't cleaning your house or cutting the grass- Don't get me wrong if you get your but out of the bed or off the couch and move more thats great but it isn't exercise.
Hit the gym, pop in a workout video, do Wii Fit if you have it, go for a long walk, Take a jog ect..

Put the food down and get active.
There is no secret how to lose weight!

Becareful not to over estimate your calories burned (especially if you are eating them back) The websites are wrong on there calculations. So are the gym machines if you want to know get a Heart Rate Monitor.

MFP under estimates the macronutrients (fat,protien, and carbs)

Drink water- ease up on alcohol beverages, nix the soda and sweet tea-
Use actual portion/serving sizes you will be amazed.

Good luck on your weight loss journey.

debnu1

I needed that wake up call--thanks!

Zara11

LOL. Someone's going to cry harsh about this, most likely.

The biggest fail factors are a lack of knowledge and a lack of motivation, I feel. (Exceptions are made for people with particularly difficult injuries and illnesses, of course.) I currently lack the motivation, and anyone who lacks knowledge really just needs to hit google.

The thing about whining is - it feels good to let it out on the rare occasion. But at the same, time, accept the matter-of-fact comments you're going to get. That's what happens.

Marla64

You know-- I'm there with you, but many of the "old-timers" have given up on trying to give advice because a good majority of people simply want to be stroked.

I stick to three threads where I know the people, and know that they don't want to be told "what they want to hear." They want to be told and to get their butt in gear.

You're right-- this is not rocket scientist-- eat less, move more, stop the excuses--

Unfortunately-- it's going to continue to fall on deaf, whiny ears.

Whaddyagonnado?

Mindful_Trent

I'm not an "old-timer" on MFP, but I really like this post... I have to admit I get really annoyed by the daily posts from people whining about their loss of motivation or lack of willpower to eat how they are supposed to. I feel like that's something you have to find within yourself, and if you have to rely on others to find it for you, then you're in trouble!!

cmriverside

mrsyac2

First of all I totally agree with you.

Second - I feel your pain. I'll go months at a time without looking at the message boards for the very same reason. I choose a few positive threads to follow and for the most part stay away from the whiny ones.


This is nothing new. You're just noticing it more. No one wants to hear the truth anymore. Not just here, but in life in general. Regroup, know that you are living your life in a positive manner, doing healthy things, and remember this:

Happy Sunday!:flowerforyou:

SatelliteCrush80

I have to vent real quick.

There is so much whining on this website
I look at the boards and every post I see is someone depressed or upset-
Then if someone gives them Upfront advice other people call it harsh.
Is the boards just a hand holding session?


This website has changed so much. People try to justify binge eating or throwing all there calories away on a meal.
weightloss isn't rocket science its simple Math Burn more then you take in.

It sucks to not see the scale move when you are seriously busting your *kitten* in the gym and watching what you eat but keep pushing through- Challenge yourself set goals for yourself and when you get discouraged just think of those goals.

I have been trying to lose the same 25-28lbs For ever. I fall off track at times i get discouraged but I keep going because if I stop The weight will never come off and I will prob just gain more! So going backwards isn't an option.

As you lose weight and get into another size get rid of all your clothes that were big as I like to call them fat clothes- that way you need to atleast maintain your current size or keep losing because if you gain you will have to run around Naked cause nothing will fit. If you are tempted by crap foods keep them out of the house until you learn to control yourself.

Exercise is just that it's exercising. It isn't cleaning your house or cutting the grass- Don't get me wrong if you get your but out of the bed or off the couch and move more thats great but it isn't exercise.
Hit the gym, pop in a workout video, do Wii Fit if you have it, go for a long walk, Take a jog ect..

Put the food down and get active.
There is no secret how to lose weight!

Becareful not to over estimate your calories burned (especially if you are eating them back) The websites are wrong on there calculations. So are the gym machines if you want to know get a Heart Rate Monitor.

MFP under estimates the macronutrients (fat,protien, and carbs)

Drink water- ease up on alcohol beverages, nix the soda and sweet tea-
Use actual portion/serving sizes you will be amazed.

Good luck on your weight loss journey.

Agreed, co-sign and triple like. I feel the same way in real life when I hear people whine about this; I've actually stopped givinig advice unless directly asked because of it.

savvystephy

I agree with what everyone else has said. I am not an "old timer" here, as I have only been here since May/June, but it is really the trend of society now a days. Everyone has to have an excuse for something and no one seems to hold themselves accountable for their actions.

Also, I have noticed that since I keep an eye on what I am eating I get the "you are obsessing too much over what you eat" from my family. However, the ones who tell me that are also once who are failing to lose weight. I have lost 18lbs doing exactly what you stated about exercise.

It's a frustrating thing, yes, but it seems to be what society is becoming. The majority of people don't hold themselves, or others, accountable. They just make excuses for their actions.

Marla64

I'm not an "old-timer" on MFP, but I really like this post... I have to admit I get really annoyed by the daily posts from people whining about their loss of motivation or lack of willpower to eat how they are supposed to. I feel like that's something you have to find within yourself, and if you have to rely on others to find it for you, then you're in trouble!!

Indeed-- bravo!

mscedeno83

don't know if its just me but since the site has changed um everytime i log in my food calories and carbs and so on seem to be shown as incomplete it would just show my calories being added up but the rest shown as zero so god knows if i went over on carbs lol

guidosgal

Very Well Said. You took the words right out of my mouth :glasses: ((((BRAVO))))

cmriverside

don't know if its just me but since the site has changed um everytime i log in my food calories and carbs and so on seem to be shown as incomplete it would just show my calories being added up but the rest shown as zero so god knows if i went over on carbs lol

that's a glitch, it sounds like, go here and post it, or message Mike..they'll help you fix that

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/71401-feedback-on-our-new-design

epappas09

thank you

PJilly

I agree! I get so tired of the "I need someone to motivate me" posts. I am responsible for myself. Don't try to make me responsible for you too. Besides, the simple truth is that you don't always need to be motivated. You just need to do it. The math works the same no matter your frame of mind.

On that note, even though I don't really feel like it, I'm going to go work out now.

Jill

mrsyac2

Guess I am not the only one annoyed with it lol. It's funny because shortly after I posted this I went back to the main page and there was 4 whoa me posts I just shook my head and got off the website.

frogtoestoo

Exercise is just that it's exercising. It isn't cleaning your house or cutting the grass- Don't get me wrong if you get your but out of the bed or off the couch and move more thats great but it isn't exercise.
Hit the gym, pop in a workout video, do Wii Fit if you have it, go for a long walk, Take a jog ect..

Put the food down and get active.
There is no secret how to lose weight!

I have to disagree with you here. I have friends who never "exercise" and look amazing. Obesity has become more prevalent in our culture do to general laziness. We have remote controls for the TV, the ceiling fan, the window shades, etc. Movement is exercise. Spending all day weeding or scrubbing or cutting wood is a great way to take your mind off food and burn off calories - and it DOES count!

MadWorld

I'm sorry, but I have to reply and this may or may not piss some off. I feel like this is turning into a high horse thread.

Some people need support and they should be able to ask for it without being dogged. Why not give them motivation? Why not give them support? I get it... there's no magic formula for quick weight loss. Weight loss is frustrating, especially when you have medical issues and such. People need motivation and support.

If you are not a motivator or supporter... fine. That's cool with me, but I think it's a little rude to call people whiny when they are looking for motivation and support.

cmriverside

I agree! I get so tired of the "I need someone to motivate me" posts. I am responsible for myself. Don't try to make me responsible for you too. Besides, the simple truth is that you don't always need to be motivated. You just need to do it. The math works the same no matter your frame of mind.

On that note, even though I don't really feel like it, I'm going to go work out now.

Jill

:happy: Very well said!!

frogtoestoo

I'm sorry, but I have to reply and this may or may not piss some off. I feel like this is turning into a high horse thread.

Some people need support and they should be able to ask for it without being dogged. Why not give them motivation? Why not give them support? I get it... there's no magic formula for quick weight loss. Weight loss is frustrating, especially when you have medical issues and such. People need motivation and support.

If you are not a motivator or supporter... fine. That's cool with me, but I think it's a little rude to call people whiny when they are looking for motivation and support.

Well said!

PJilly

I'm sorry, but I have to reply and this may or may not piss some off. I feel like this is turning into a high horse thread.

Some people need support and they should be able to ask for it without being dogged. Why not give them motivation? Why not give them support? I get it... there's no magic formula for quick weight loss. Weight loss is frustrating, especially when you have medical issues and such. People need motivation and support.

If you are not a motivator or supporter... fine. That's cool with me, but I think it's a little rude to call people whiny when they are looking for motivation and support.

I didn't mean to sound like I'm on a high horse, and I apologize if that's the way it came across. I am happy to give support to someone who needs help figuring out how to go about what it is they want to do or suggestions when it comes to food and/or exercise. But I honestly don't know what to say to someone who asks someone else to motivate them, so that frustrates me. I figure someone either wants to do it or they don't, and that is completely their right. I'm not here to judge someone who doesn't want to do it. I just don't understand how some people expect someone else to say the magic words that are going to inspire them to make a change.

Mindful_Trent

I didn't mean to sound like I'm on a high horse, and I apologize if that's the way it came across. I am happy to give support to someone who needs help figuring out how to go about what it is they want to do or suggestions when it comes to food and/or exercise. But I honestly don't know what to say to someone who asks someone else to motivate them, so that frustrates me. I figure someone either wants to do it or they don't, and that is completely their right. I'm not here to judge someone who doesn't want to do it. I just don't understand how some people expect someone else to say the magic words that are going to inspire them to make a change.

I feel the same way - I didn't mean to sound condescending or anything. It's just that I really feel like people who look to others to provide motivation are setting themselves up for failure. It's one thing to ask for advice on how to get around the specific problems that someone knows are the things that kill their motivation (such as not enough food variety, bored with exercise, etc.), but to just flat out ask for motivation... I don't really think that's anything anyone else can truly provide. It has to be found within.

Marla64

I didn't mean to sound like I'm on a high horse, and I apologize if that's the way it came across. I am happy to give support to someone who needs help figuring out how to go about what it is they want to do or suggestions when it comes to food and/or exercise. But I honestly don't know what to say to someone who asks someone else to motivate them, so that frustrates me. I figure someone either wants to do it or they don't, and that is completely their right. I'm not here to judge someone who doesn't want to do it. I just don't understand how some people expect someone else to say the magic words that are going to inspire them to make a change.

I feel the same way - I didn't mean to sound condescending or anything. It's just that I really feel like people who look to others to provide motivation are setting themselves up for failure. It's one thing to ask for advice on how to get around the specific problems that someone knows are the things that kill their motivation (such as not enough food variety, bored with exercise, etc.), but to just flat out ask for motivation... I don't really think that's anything anyone else can truly provide. It has to be found within.

what they said--

ivykivy

I agree. But I did keep my fat clothes I like to put them on every now and again and see them fall off.:blushing:
I don't mind harshness, but I realize some people here have some serious issues, so I try to tone it down or just bypass those posts altogether.

I would add, Quit starving yourself. The only people who need to be eating 900 calories are those under doctor supervision and those who are 4 feet tall. You can't put $5 worth of gas in your tank and expect to drive to Vegas (unless you live there). You gotta fuel your body.

BamaRose0107

Agree Agree Agree. Sometimes we all have to hear harsh words to wake us up. Life is not fair its hard and its draining and its tough sometimes but through all that we become stronger people. When I was close to 300 pounds my parents my mom expecially wanted to baby me and hold my hand. I would come home crying when someone was mean to me and she would tell me I was fine the way I was and its ok to be the way you are, never realizing that hated the very site of my body and she sugar coated everything. There is a fine line between supporting and motivating someone and babying and enabling them. It wasn't until my doctor told me that my weight was killing me that I woke up. I was 18 years old with high blood pressure, low blood sugar, poor circulation and severe depression. That day I started changing my life. Today I have no health problems, and I now weigh 175 and I love myself. Once I got out of my own pitty party I saw my own strenght.


Sorry I rambled I just ahd to get that off my chest.

keiko

Agree Agree Agree. Sometimes we all have to hear harsh words to wake us up. Life is not fair its hard and its draining and its tough sometimes but through all that we become stronger people. When I was close to 300 pounds my parents my mom expecially wanted to baby me and hold my hand. I would come home crying when someone was mean to me and she would tell me I was fine the way I was and its ok to be the way you are, never realizing that hated the very site of my body and she sugar coated everything. There is a fine line between supporting and motivating someone and babying and enabling them. It wasn't until my doctor told me that my weight was killing me that I woke up. I was 18 years old with high blood pressure, low blood sugar, poor circulation and severe depression. That day I started changing my life. Today I have no health problems, and I now weigh 175 and I love myself. Once I got out of my own pitty party I saw my own strenght.


Sorry I rambled I just ahd to get that off my chest.

Congrats on finding a new you and on quitting smoking! You are becoming a healthier, better version of yourself.

Marla64

Agree Agree Agree. Sometimes we all have to hear harsh words to wake us up. Life is not fair its hard and its draining and its tough sometimes but through all that we become stronger people. When I was close to 300 pounds my parents my mom expecially wanted to baby me and hold my hand. I would come home crying when someone was mean to me and she would tell me I was fine the way I was and its ok to be the way you are, never realizing that hated the very site of my body and she sugar coated everything. There is a fine line between supporting and motivating someone and babying and enabling them. It wasn't until my doctor told me that my weight was killing me that I woke up. I was 18 years old with high blood pressure, low blood sugar, poor circulation and severe depression. That day I started changing my life. Today I have no health problems, and I now weigh 175 and I love myself. Once I got out of my own pitty party I saw my own strenght.


Sorry I rambled I just ahd to get that off my chest.

Rose-- wonderful story-- God bless you!

And now you're conquering the tobacco, too? Ain't no stoppin' you, woman-- congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrsyac2

I'm sorry, but I have to reply and this may or may not piss some off. I feel like this is turning into a high horse thread.

Some people need support and they should be able to ask for it without being dogged. Why not give them motivation? Why not give them support? I get it... there's no magic formula for quick weight loss. Weight loss is frustrating, especially when you have medical issues and such. People need motivation and support.

If you are not a motivator or supporter... fine. That's cool with me, but I think it's a little rude to call people whiny when they are looking for motivation and support.

I didn't mean to sound like I'm on a high horse, and I apologize if that's the way it came across. I am happy to give support to someone who needs help figuring out how to go about what it is they want to do or suggestions when it comes to food and/or exercise. But I honestly don't know what to say to someone who asks someone else to motivate them, so that frustrates me. I figure someone either wants to do it or they don't, and that is completely their right. I'm not here to judge someone who doesn't want to do it. I just don't understand how some people expect someone else to say the magic words that are going to inspire them to make a change.

Agree- You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink (thats what my mom always said) - Nobody is going to do something or stick to something if they don't want it.

tlapdx72

Hi all,

I came upon this site when I was feeling pretty bad about myself. I know that eating less, and working out is the key to losing weight. However, this site has been a place where I can can put my true feelings about how I'm feeling. I thought this site was supose to be a place where people could find encouragement. I come to this site on days when I am having a bad day, and I read the success stories, and it does motivate me. I have been working out for a year now, and have lost almost 40 pounds. Also, if I am having a bad day, and just want to vent then I will. If you don't want to read about it then don't click on it.

kdsmith

If people didn't need motivation and have bad days then this site probably wouldn't be here.

I like the fact that I can sometimes be that person who has helped motivate someone for the day and I also like when I am feeling unmotivated that someone is usually around to help me out.

If everyone is so high on their own motivation then they probably shouldn't have gained weight in the first place...

BrendaLee

I agree on some level...though I love the support that the people here offer, and I really think it helps a lot, I was a little shocked at all of the extreme Thanksgiving meal posts. I think we use too many excuses to overeat in an BIG way. I guess posting about it on here makes you feel a little better, but you quickly learn...that doesn't take away the fact that you just ate a 5000 calorie meal. I'll admit I felt like saying that to a few people, but I didn't because I didn't want to sound harsh. It wasn't the fact that they were sharing their mistake...it was the fact that it was A) Planned, Being justified. We need to wake up and stop repeating the same behaviours that got us where we are.

Support posts in general don't bother me. I like giving (and getting) support...and the occasional virtual smack. I sometimes whine a little myself. I've shared things here that I would share nowhere else, and the support I've received has been priceless.

foxyforce

i didn't read all the comments

but up front

when i come on here and i vent, i do not want hand holding. in fact, no one responds often, i might get like 3. but those that are online i want to tell me how it is. a wake up call. it isn't easy on your own, and i personally consider this a support group.

it isn't a place to just brag about success, it makes me feel like it is AA almost...and we all need a sponsor. this board is my sponsor, and when I **** up, I want to tell everyone, and I want everyone to tell me to get my fat *kitten* back on the wagon