Strength Training (Not Cardio) is the Real Fat Burner?

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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I think I burned some fat just reading this thread

    No, you burned some *calories*.

    The source of those calories is apparently the subject of much debate. Stay tuned for a general MFP consensus on the answer....(heh, yeah, right).
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I've been testing this theory for last 9 months: I've lost precious little fat weight training and dieting.. Cardio burns fat

    no

    HELLL no!

    cardio improves cardio vascular endurance.

    And burns calories (not fat) like any other activity. To a much lesser degree than simply living your life, but it burns a few.

    Don't be silly. Cardio burns a lot of calories and it burns fat too. As pointed out before a calorie deficit burns fat. If you create that deficit through cardio that doesn't change.

    Moderate cardio bout - 250 cals burned. Being alive for a day - 1800 cals burned. And no, it does not burn fat. It burns calories. IF put puts you into a calorie deficit, then your BODY burns fat. If you are NOT in a calorie deficit, it doesn't burn fat.

    My "body" burns fat? How does it do that, pray tell?

    And the amount of calories burned during cardio varies greatly based on several variables. There is no "moderate cardio burn 250" rule, especially without even identfying a timeframe.

    Yes, your body burns fat. WTF else do you think would be doing it? Magic? Go read something real. let's say 3mph for 60 minutes. That is moderate, and would burn in the neighborhood of 250. For me anyway.

    Chilax, dude! I never said it didn't burn fat. I asked how it burns fat, As in, 'what causes it to burn fat'? It burns it for energy, of course. Such as energy for cardio exercise (among other things).
  • scottb81
    scottb81 Posts: 2,538 Member
    You don't burn calories. A calorie is simply a unit of measurement. You burn either fat, carbohydrate, or protein and the energy released is measured in calories.
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    Chilax, dude! I never said it didn't burn fat. I asked how it burns fat, As in, 'what causes it to burn fat'? It burns it for energy, of course. Such as energy for cardio exercise (among other things).

    Fat is lost If and only if you are in a calorie deficit. It is not magically melted by cardio itself. Cardio is an optional tool for creating a calorie deficit.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Chilax, dude! I never said it didn't burn fat. I asked how it burns fat, As in, 'what causes it to burn fat'? It burns it for energy, of course. Such as energy for cardio exercise (among other things).

    Fat is lost If and only if you are in a calorie deficit. It is not magically melted by cardio itself. Cardio is an optional tool for creating a calorie deficit.

    Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant when I posted "a calorie deficit burns fat. If you create that deficit through cardio that doesn't change" earlier in this same thread.
  • siriusalien
    siriusalien Posts: 207
    I've been testing this theory for last 9 months: I've lost precious little fat weight training and dieting.. Cardio burns fat
    Let me take a guess; a pair of pink (or cherry red) dumbbells no heavier than a small laptop?

    As a matter of fact, NO moron ! I've seen your dismissvive replies in other forums and wonder, if your such an iron man, why don't you have more positive, concrete advice in place of snarky usless crap?
  • davert123
    davert123 Posts: 1,568 Member
    Strength training CAN be a cardiovascular workout, that doesn't mean it always is.

    I think both are important for overall health and weight loss.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^You got it

    And diet as well :-) I'm loosing half my weight with diet and half with exercise
  • reddi2roll
    reddi2roll Posts: 356 Member
    Bump
  • gp79
    gp79 Posts: 1,799 Member
    This thread has gone from answered...to retarded.
  • Glowbee
    Glowbee Posts: 68 Member
    Success to weight loss in order of importance:

    1) Diet
    2) Strength Training
    3) Cardio

    ^^^ This here.

    I've had a ton of success doing programs on bodybuilding.com and eating well. I feel amazing!
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    Diet is the real fat burner...

    Gotta give this post of the day!!! :drinker:
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Read this interesting article - seems to make sense, so I am going to find my dumb bells and get some strength training in....

    http://www.coachcalorie.com/strength-training-for-weight-loss/

    Does anyone else agree?

    I completely agree. When I started the strength training, inches began melting off. It makes a huge difference.
  • LottieLou13
    LottieLou13 Posts: 574 Member
    I think I burned some fat just reading this thread

    I think I lost some brain cells reading this thread. Or maybe just reading past the 1st page.

    And in the words of the Hodge Twins....'what you think you're burning?! Bone cells?!'
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    I've been testing this theory for last 9 months: I've lost precious little fat weight training and dieting.. Cardio burns fat
    Let me take a guess; a pair of pink (or cherry red) dumbbells no heavier than a small laptop?

    As a matter of fact, NO moron ! I've seen your dismissvive replies in other forums and wonder, if your such an iron man, why don't you have more positive, concrete advice in place of snarky usless crap?

    uh oh, someone got their feelings hurt by a complete stranger over the internet!
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Diet is the real fat burner...

    Exactly.

    Lift weights or do cardio till your hearts content, but if you eat more then you burn, you will still get fat.

    Thanks for playing anyway...:laugh:

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  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    You don't burn calories. A calorie is simply a unit of measurement. You burn either fat, carbohydrate, or protein and the energy released is measured in calories.

    You actually do not burn anything. You oxidize acetates derived from fats, protein and carbohydrates. But, in general, people do understand what is meant by burning calories. One uses up the equivalent energy measure derived from a variety of sources..
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    You actually don't burn oxidized acetates, jesus and several cheribums come down and produce the change in your body through the power of the holy spirit, amen.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    This thread has gone from answered...to retarded.

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  • davert123
    davert123 Posts: 1,568 Member
    why are people so hung up on terminology - burning fat, calories, energy, carbs - doesn't bother me at all lol . I know if I exercise and eat well my health improves and I loose weight.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I've been testing this theory for last 9 months: I've lost precious little fat weight training and dieting.. Cardio burns fat
    Let me take a guess; a pair of pink (or cherry red) dumbbells no heavier than a small laptop?

    As a matter of fact, NO moron ! I've seen your dismissvive replies in other forums and wonder, if your such an iron man, why don't you have more positive, concrete advice in place of snarky usless crap?

    uh oh, someone got their feelings hurt by a complete stranger over the internet!

    So you think you hurt her feelings? I doubt it from the tone of her post. It is called constructive criticism. Get a clue. :wink:
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    I've been testing this theory for last 9 months: I've lost precious little fat weight training and dieting.. Cardio burns fat
    Let me take a guess; a pair of pink (or cherry red) dumbbells no heavier than a small laptop?

    As a matter of fact, NO moron ! I've seen your dismissvive replies in other forums and wonder, if your such an iron man, why don't you have more positive, concrete advice in place of snarky usless crap?

    uh oh, someone got their feelings hurt by a complete stranger over the internet!

    So you think you hurt her feelings? I doubt it from the tone of her post. It is called constructive criticism. Get a clue. :wink:

    white knight
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I've been testing this theory for last 9 months: I've lost precious little fat weight training and dieting.. Cardio burns fat
    Let me take a guess; a pair of pink (or cherry red) dumbbells no heavier than a small laptop?

    As a matter of fact, NO moron ! I've seen your dismissvive replies in other forums and wonder, if your such an iron man, why don't you have more positive, concrete advice in place of snarky usless crap?

    uh oh, someone got their feelings hurt by a complete stranger over the internet!

    So you think you hurt her feelings? I doubt it from the tone of her post. It is called constructive criticism. Get a clue. :wink:

    white knight

    Brown coffee
  • cjc166
    cjc166 Posts: 222
    Diet is the real fat burner...

    ^^^^^^
    Yes, I must agree.

    EDIT: definitely strength training is helpful and healthy. i would give it equal or better attention than cardio.
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    I think I burned some fat just reading this thread

    I think I lost some brain cells reading this thread. Or maybe just reading past the 1st page.

    And in the words of the Hodge Twins....'what you think you're burning?! Bone cells?!'

    I'm surprised you have enough brain cells left to type after watching Hodge Twins
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    I think I burned some fat just reading this thread

    I think I lost some brain cells reading this thread. Or maybe just reading past the 1st page.

    And in the words of the Hodge Twins....'what you think you're burning?! Bone cells?!'

    I'm surprised you have enough brain cells left to type after watching Hodge Twins

    Yeah I'd agree, Hodge twins have their PHD in broscience... Sure some of their stuff is spot on but these guys are just two gym rats posting what ever they like on YouTube.
  • MonkRocker
    MonkRocker Posts: 198
    This thread is (mostly) hilarious.

    However - this needs to be said for a few of you:

    LOSE is the opposite of GAIN - which is what you do with weight - you lose it or gain it.

    LOOSE is the opposite of TIGHT - you can't really "tight" weight, now can you? Ergo - you cannot "loose" it.

    Sorry. But that's really rustling my jimmies.

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  • Crazyjoe11
    Crazyjoe11 Posts: 83
    Thanks for all your advice and personal experiences - will take it all on board.

    This post seems to sum it up

    Success to weight loss in order of importance:

    1) Diet
    2) Strength Training
    3) Cardio
  • geekyjock76
    geekyjock76 Posts: 2,720 Member
    Success to weight loss in order of importance:

    1) Diet
    2) Strength Training
    3) Cardio
    Yes, this is the ideal hierarchy. Most people have greater success at fat loss over the long-term while maintaining a moderate deficit and letting calorie restriction from food do most of the work. Example: Person creates a 500 calorie deficit, of which, 300 is due to eating less and another 200 from total exercise (Strength Training and cardio). Emphasizing higher volume due to heavier resistance in addition to a diet high in protein will allow one to maintain lean body mass resulting in a favorable P-ratio (amount of muscle lost while dieting vs muscle gained during weight recovery). This is one of several key variables in reducing fat gains once you enter and sustain maintenance.
  • bfitnbfab
    bfitnbfab Posts: 79
    bump
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member
    Diet is the real fat burner...

    Exactly.

    Lift weights or do cardio till your hearts content, but if you eat more then you burn, you will still get fat.

    Thanks for playing anyway...:laugh:

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    Uh no.

    Why do you think when people bulk, they gain fat?

    Because they eat in a surplus(IE more then they need).

    Same goes for cardio... if you eat more then you expend, you will gain weight and fat.

    Not sure why this is so funny to you.. but carry on.

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