Darn hit. Heavy lifting left me "toned".

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  • tdmcmains
    tdmcmains Posts: 227 Member
    you do look pretty damn fantastic. nicely done.
  • Glasgow_Vegan
    Glasgow_Vegan Posts: 209 Member
    Well done! I'm saving this to favourites.It makes me want to start lifting weights.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Actually, it isn't the same as your hair analogy at all. Maybe you guys that don't like the word "toned" will like the medical dictionary definition better.

    The normal state of elastic tension or partial contraction in resting muscles.
    This is the only accurate and viable definition when applied to muscle tissue from a biomechanical viewpoint. Just because it appears in layman's dictionaries due to a gross and repeated misunderstanding does not make it applicable in the world of kinesiology. The "toned" look you keep harping about is actually more about the "firmness" of the skin due to a combination of increased lean muscle mass and lower body fat percentage.

    The definition of "toned" is firmness....so um yeah.....:laugh:

    I'm going to jump in here an attempt an analogy to explain why so many of us dislike the term tone. Let's pretend the term we are actually talking about is "broad" As in, "check out that broad". In the sense of being a noun, broad is defined as a woman. Now at one point in time, broad was a fairly vogue term to describe a woman, though it was still used in a derogatory manner, but it was used to get a certain point across. Now, I don't know about you, but I don't particularly like being called a "broad", it rubs me the wrong way and has a negative connotation to it. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Am I a woman? Why yes, yes I am. Why shouldn't I want to be called broad, then, it's in the dictionary. Because I don't like it and I don't like the negative effects it has upon society.

    This also happens to be how I feel about "tone". The word is used irresponsibly in the fitness industry, and it has a negative effect upon society.

    Its a loose analogy, I'm sure there are as many holes as Swiss cheese, but there you go. It's how my mind works...

    I think you should be mad at the fitness industry then, not a word with a specific meaning. I think it's hilarious that so many people get their panties in a wad over it. It's like refusing to use the word hamburger because that's what McDonald's calls the crap they sell. :laugh:
    and it has a negative effect upon society

    Apparently you didn't finish reading my post. Let me help you out there.

    Oh, I read that part. I just disagree. I think blaming the word itself for scam marketers does more harm than the use of the word.
  • Arrabindi
    Arrabindi Posts: 169 Member
    You're awesome! Great results and great posts!
  • jdelot
    jdelot Posts: 397 Member
    You look great! Congrats on your success. What kind of workouts did you do? Did you have a book, or videos? Trainer?
  • ck1416
    ck1416 Posts: 154 Member
    Looking Good!!!! :love:
  • alarae
    alarae Posts: 263 Member
    Well heck! And you look fantastic geesh! Guess I should probably try that too if I want a body like that.
  • ZoeLifts
    ZoeLifts Posts: 10,347 Member
    Actually, it isn't the same as your hair analogy at all. Maybe you guys that don't like the word "toned" will like the medical dictionary definition better.

    The normal state of elastic tension or partial contraction in resting muscles.
    This is the only accurate and viable definition when applied to muscle tissue from a biomechanical viewpoint. Just because it appears in layman's dictionaries due to a gross and repeated misunderstanding does not make it applicable in the world of kinesiology. The "toned" look you keep harping about is actually more about the "firmness" of the skin due to a combination of increased lean muscle mass and lower body fat percentage.

    The definition of "toned" is firmness....so um yeah.....:laugh:

    I'm going to jump in here an attempt an analogy to explain why so many of us dislike the term tone. Let's pretend the term we are actually talking about is "broad" As in, "check out that broad". In the sense of being a noun, broad is defined as a woman. Now at one point in time, broad was a fairly vogue term to describe a woman, though it was still used in a derogatory manner, but it was used to get a certain point across. Now, I don't know about you, but I don't particularly like being called a "broad", it rubs me the wrong way and has a negative connotation to it. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Am I a woman? Why yes, yes I am. Why shouldn't I want to be called broad, then, it's in the dictionary. Because I don't like it and I don't like the negative effects it has upon society.

    This also happens to be how I feel about "tone". The word is used irresponsibly in the fitness industry, and it has a negative effect upon society.

    Its a loose analogy, I'm sure there are as many holes as Swiss cheese, but there you go. It's how my mind works...

    I think you should be mad at the fitness industry then, not a word with a specific meaning. I think it's hilarious that so many people get their panties in a wad over it. It's like refusing to use the word hamburger because that's what McDonald's calls the crap they sell. :laugh:
    and it has a negative effect upon society

    Apparently you didn't finish reading my post. Let me help you out there.

    Oh, I read that part. I just disagree. I think blaming the word itself for scam marketers does more harm than the use of the word.

    I'm shocked!!! You disagreed with something??? No, say it isn't so...

    I blame the fitness industry and the people that continue to use it in ignorance.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,984 Member
    I think you should be mad at the fitness industry then, not a word with a specific meaning. I think it's hilarious that so many people get their panties in a wad over it. It's like refusing to use the word hamburger because that's what McDonald's calls the crap they sell. :laugh:

    ETA: (And for the record: the word "broad" as applied to a female is slang. The word tone is not slang.)
    I personally despise how the fitness industry uses it. Rather that tell females they are resistance training to encourage muscular fitness and endurance, they bullsh*t them with "toning" because it sounds more feminine. It's an insult to think that by disguising actual weight lifting with a word, that they feel they "dumbed" females into actually doing it. That's why it irks me.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    You look great! Congrats on your success. What kind of workouts did you do? Did you have a book, or videos? Trainer?

    I'm going to modify what I wrote earlier because there were some typos and I left out that I did/do do cardio...




    My blog has more photos (and the photos includes my legs, which shows there's more work to be done):

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Rae6503

    For the first year after my kid was born (orange shirt was shortly after) I just watched what I ate, nursed, and worked out sporadically. This brought me from about 180lbs to 161lbs. Last summer I did Turbo Fire (a Beach Body video program, heavy cardio including HIIT), and MFP, eating around 2000 calories net (and yes, eating exercise calories so 2300 total or so). This brought me down to 150lbs.

    I started "heavy lifting" in October. I started with New Rules of Weight Lifting for Women. In about mid-October I started eating at a calorie surplus. First starting around 2600 net, then moving to 2800 net, so over 3000 a day total. In December I switched to an upper/lower body split designed for hypertrophy containg both compound moves and isolation. This brought be back up to 160lbs. I did do low-moderate intensity cardio 2-3 times a week for about 30 min.

    From Jan until July I did StrongLifts5x5 and ate around maintenance (so yeah, not a whole lot of difference). Since then I've been doing a modified version of StrongLifts, 3x5 with biceps and triceps added to workout B, and abs and calves added to A. I've also been doing 2 hour mountain bike rides once or twice a week this summer. I also stepped up cardio a bit to help with mountain biking. I still only do cardio 2-3 times a week but I now include fasted HIIT sometimes, and sometimes go for 45 minutes.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I'm shocked!!! You disagreed with something??? No, say it isn't so...

    I blame the fitness industry and the people that continue to use it in ignorance.

    :laugh:

    Well I am just glad that the OP toned up because she looks great. Honestly, it shows that scale weight means nothing. Looking (insert word: "toned" "buff" "fit" "firm") is preferable.
  • ZoeLifts
    ZoeLifts Posts: 10,347 Member
    I'm shocked!!! You disagreed with something??? No, say it isn't so...

    I blame the fitness industry and the people that continue to use it in ignorance.

    :laugh:

    Well I am just glad that the OP toned up because she looks great. Honestly, it shows that scale weight means nothing. Looking (insert word: "toned" "buff" "fit" "firm") is preferable.

    Knowing the OP, she would probably prefer you not say "toned up" but you're going to anyway :laugh: :laugh:
  • silvergurl518
    silvergurl518 Posts: 4,123 Member
    Friday+-+Damn_.gif

    ^^ GO GET IT, GIRL.
  • GeekGirl23
    GeekGirl23 Posts: 517 Member
    Friday+-+Damn_.gif

    What he said
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I think you should be mad at the fitness industry then, not a word with a specific meaning. I think it's hilarious that so many people get their panties in a wad over it. It's like refusing to use the word hamburger because that's what McDonald's calls the crap they sell. :laugh:

    ETA: (And for the record: the word "broad" as applied to a female is slang. The word tone is not slang.)
    I personally despise how the fitness industry uses it. Rather that tell females they are resistance training to encourage muscular fitness and endurance, they bullsh*t them with "toning" because it sounds more feminine. It's an insult to think that by disguising actual weight lifting with a word, that they feel they "dumbed" females into actually doing it. That's why it irks me.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    I'm sorry you feel that way. It's too bad. It irks me when people commit fraud at any level, but I think the fraud is the problem, not the language.

    I'm not in the fitness industry. I'm a normal English speaker who prefers to use language that people understand, in order to facilitate communication. Also, it can be irksome when people try to change the plain meaning of words. But around here, I usually just laugh at people's idiosyncrasies. In this way, I am not irked at all. :wink:
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I'm shocked!!! You disagreed with something??? No, say it isn't so...

    I blame the fitness industry and the people that continue to use it in ignorance.

    :laugh:

    Well I am just glad that the OP toned up because she looks great. Honestly, it shows that scale weight means nothing. Looking (insert word: "toned" "buff" "fit" "firm") is preferable.

    Knowing the OP, she would probably prefer you not say "toned up" but you're going to anyway :laugh: :laugh:

    And that's too bad because it's a complement, to be sure.
  • JSlattery79
    JSlattery79 Posts: 116 Member
    Friday+-+Damn_.gif

    LOL!!!!
  • Damn!
  • jdelot
    jdelot Posts: 397 Member
    You look great! Congrats on your success. What kind of workouts did you do? Did you have a book, or videos? Trainer?

    I'm going to modify what I wrote earlier because there were some typos and I left out that I did/do do cardio...




    My blog has more photos (and the photos includes my legs, which shows there's more work to be done):

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Rae6503

    For the first year after my kid was born (orange shirt was shortly after) I just watched what I ate, nursed, and worked out sporadically. This brought me from about 180lbs to 161lbs. Last summer I did Turbo Fire (a Beach Body video program, heavy cardio including HIIT), and MFP, eating around 2000 calories net (and yes, eating exercise calories so 2300 total or so). This brought me down to 150lbs.

    I started "heavy lifting" in October. I started with New Rules of Weight Lifting for Women. In about mid-October I started eating at a calorie surplus. First starting around 2600 net, then moving to 2800 net, so over 3000 a day total. In December I switched to an upper/lower body split designed for hypertrophy containg both compound moves and isolation. This brought be back up to 160lbs. I did do low-moderate intensity cardio 2-3 times a week for about 30 min.

    From Jan until July I did StrongLifts5x5 and ate around maintenance (so yeah, not a whole lot of difference). Since then I've been doing a modified version of StrongLifts, 3x5 with biceps and triceps added to workout B, and abs and calves added to A. I've also been doing 2 hour mountain bike rides once or twice a week this summer. I also stepped up cardio a bit to help with mountain biking. I still only do cardio 2-3 times a week but I now include fasted HIIT sometimes, and sometimes go for 45 minutes.
    Thanks for the info. I've been telling my wife about lifting heavy, but never found any info on it. Congrats, again.
  • Love your hair short! Keep lifting! You look great!!!
  • juliebeannn
    juliebeannn Posts: 428 Member
    sooo....you mean i can put down the barbie weights, pick up some heavy *kitten* and i won't end up like a lumberjack?!

    who wudda thunk it? :laugh:

    seriously....your progress is AWESSOMMMEEEE!!! :noway:
  • Cmonnowguys
    Cmonnowguys Posts: 361 Member
    The threadjacking sucks...


    but OP, you look fantastic, as always!

    I love seeing the progress you've made and I like to think that I'm following in your footsteps with my heavy lifting as well.

    The way you've reduced your body fat and still maintained all that muscle is really impressive! You are amazing!
  • jennieth
    jennieth Posts: 105
    You look fabulous!! Your muscles are beautiful!
  • tomusiakl
    tomusiakl Posts: 225 Member
    Amazing results. You look fab...
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    WendyTerry420 - you've been told numerous times.

    The age old work out style of high reps light weight aka toning or sculpting is a myth, and using the term "toned" is only perpetuating the myth.

    Please stop perpetuating the myth it is not constructive to the fitness world, and the MFP community.
  • kimama01
    kimama01 Posts: 28 Member
    WOW! you look amazing!
  • llmcconnell
    llmcconnell Posts: 344 Member
    Awesome!
  • Lady_Bane
    Lady_Bane Posts: 720 Member
    Low reps, heavy weights, even a calorie surplus! And all I got was "toned"! What's a girl got to do to get bulky?!







    Oh yeah. Steriods.





    *That's 2 years difference, and the calorie surplus was only 4 months. There was also a lot of calorie deficit involved as well.
    ive been regularly gaining about .5 lbs of muscle every 2 weeks since I began seriously lifting about a month and a half ago. I eat absurd amounts of proteins on my lifting days and the day after. Carbs and Proteins are what i live on, on the days in between, veggie loading. Look up Dana Linn Bailey, she has massive amounts of info on being a naturally buff woman, no roids, just protein, whey and weights. Shes huge. Shes hot, shes who I wanna be.

    Im cutting my hair off on friday, SO NERVOUS!
  • rubybeach
    rubybeach Posts: 529 Member
    Amazing results!
  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    Low reps, heavy weights, even a calorie surplus! And all I got was "toned"! What's a girl got to do to get bulky?!







    Oh yeah. Steriods.





    *That's 2 years difference, and the calorie surplus was only 4 months. There was also a lot of calorie deficit involved as well.
    ive been regularly gaining about .5 lbs of muscle every 2 weeks since I began seriously lifting about a month and a half ago. I eat absurd amounts of proteins on my lifting days and the day after. Carbs and Proteins are what i live on, on the days in between, veggie loading. Look up Dana Linn Bailey, she has massive amounts of info on being a naturally buff woman, no roids, just protein, whey and weights. Shes huge. Shes hot, shes who I wanna be.

    Im cutting my hair off on friday, SO NERVOUS!

    Yeah, I was being sarcastic. I've already done one successful bulking cycle.

    And cut the hair! I have moments where I doubt it but most of the time I love it. I donated 12 inches 1.5 years ago and have been pretty short ever since.
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