I GAVE Up PASTA... should I give up dairy too

EatClean_WashUrNuts

WHY?

bcattoes

While pasta is delicious, it's not particularly nutrient dense. Dairy, on the other hand, has quite a few benefits. I stick to small portions of full-fat dairy, per my doctors recommendation. I was told that as vitamin D, for example, is fat soluble and necessary for calcium absorption, fat-free dairy isn't as useful in attaining nutrients. I have Celiac disease and when I was first gluten-free, it was important to make sure I was getting the nutrients my body had previously been unable to absorb.

I have always found it helpful to chat with a nutritionist or doctor about a food plan, especially before cutting out whole food groups.

Soy milk and almond milk have twice the amount of calcium and about half the calories of cow's milk. Look at the labels!

It depends on the product. My soy milk has the same calcium as milk (Silk unsweetened). But you can also get plenty of calcium from vegetables, chicken and fish.

PRMinx

Life without cheese would be a sad life indeed. For me, anyway.

Life is short. Eat what you like within moderation.

cersela

If you want to give up dairy, it's a lot easier than it used to be. There are 'vegan/lactose free' version of cheese available pre-made at the store (Dayia brand actually melts like cheese), or there are tons of recipes online for cheese substitutes. 'Raw cashew cheese' is my favorite, but there's also a cheese sauce made from Nutritional Yeast that is pretty good too. Milk is easy to replace, coconut milk, almond milk, soy milk, hemp milk most have less calories and more healthy fat than real milk and are much easier on the stomach. Eggs are also easy to replace in baking 1 tablespoon of ground flaxseeds mixed with water or a squished up banana makes an egg like paste. As far as eggs alone, tofu scramble is awesome I think I've even seen a tofu quiche recipe around.

These are good sites for dairy free recipes.

http://happyherbivore.com/
http://www.theppk.com/

PRMinx

Cut out the dairy. Cut out the rice. Cut out the bread, the meat, the vegetables, the fruit, the sugars, the fats, protein, water.

In fact; just stop eating, drinking and breathing. Because apparently according to these forums, everything is bad for you. :noway:

Amen.

realme56

The only food that I truly have a reaction to is cucumbers, especially if seeds are still in there. Blow up and cannot stop burping...:blushing:

Everything else I eat in moderation. Don't like cow's milk but LOVE almond, will never give up cheese, yogurt and I still have bacon sometimes...just not a whole pound!!

Oh and I am never giving up my diet soda..... :drinker:

christimw

Cut out the dairy. Cut out the rice. Cut out the bread, the meat, the vegetables, the fruit, the sugars, the fats, protein, water.

In fact; just stop eating, drinking and breathing. Because apparently according to these forums, everything is bad for you. :noway:

ugh. i KNEW i was doing this wrong. thanks for guiding me in the right direction!

healthynotthin

I gave up pasta a couple of weeks ago. I have been substituting cauliflower and zucchini. I can honestly say I really don't miss it. It's just filler after all. I am now considering the whole dairy option. I don't include a lot of dairy in my diet anyhow.... but I do like cheese. Is this another step I should take and are there things that I can substitute for the inevitable craving?

I would give it up. too much fat.....don't want to get fat. Good call on the pasta too......Carbs are totally the problem.....well that and fat.

And protein, I'd just drink water to be safe

Better not ever eat apples! Those carbs, man. And the sugar. Those things are of the devil. Really though, water for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and every snack in between. Just because calories are evil.

Jacwhite22

While pasta is delicious, it's not particularly nutrient dense. Dairy, on the other hand, has quite a few benefits. I stick to small portions of full-fat dairy, per my doctors recommendation. I was told that as vitamin D, for example, is fat soluble and necessary for calcium absorption, fat-free dairy isn't as useful in attaining nutrients. I have Celiac disease and when I was first gluten-free, it was important to make sure I was getting the nutrients my body had previously been unable to absorb.

I have always found it helpful to chat with a nutritionist or doctor about a food plan, especially before cutting out whole food groups.

Soy milk and almond milk have twice the amount of calcium and about half the calories of cow's milk. Look at the labels!

If we're going to talk macros maybe we should look at protein as well. just saying.

Most of my protein comes from wholemeal bread and unsweetened soya milk. I'm almost always over my protein goal.

What is your protein goal exactly per day?

IntoTheSky

Only if you have digestive issues. I did, tried giving up milk, found that was the culprit. I can still have (and do) cheese and most dairy products, but milk, for some reason gives me crampy, farty tummy.

jofjltncb6

Yeah, whatever you do, don't *ever* give *anything* up. You'll make a certain subgroup of MFP members very irritated.

WendyTerry420

No pasta and dairy = a life not worth living.

^^^ THIS

cersela

Oh yeah and try spaghetti squash, it's around 33 calories for half a squash and the insides are stringy so it comes out just like cooked spaghetti.

jillybeanruns

Honestly, maybe you should just give up eating altogether?

Psych. Eat what YOU want, moderation is key. Eat what you love. Pasta is yummy.

wgn4166

I have never been a big pasta eater but I do love the whole wheat pasta. I try to limit it to once a week with olive oil and lots of veggies and chicken breast.

Kimdbro

I be damn if I give anything I love!

Moderation = Success

^^ this^^

Bdde

I did the same with pasta, bread, and rice. I don't miss it one bit. But there are 2 things I can't live without cheese and chips! :sad:

MrDangerSass

I be damn if I give anything I love!

Moderation = Success

^This!

vkruithof

there is a pasta called dream fields I belielve? Doesnt have carbs? Depending on your age have to watch with the dairy, need your calcium, but can also get that from dark green leafy veggies. But there are alot of lowfat dairy options out there, lowfat yogurt, cottagecheese, fat free milk if your a milk drinker. I wouldnt give it up but thats just me. I like my dairy. I suppose it depends on what your goals are and what your trying to achieve??

Dream fields has carbs, but it's very low compared to regular pasta. I love it. It's comparatively as good as whole wheat pasta nutritionally. Very yummy! I love it!

flynnfinn

i really don't think that pasta or cheese is what got us all here. rather we ate TOO MUCH pasta and cheese. whatever you decide, make sure it is a decision you can live with for the rest of your life. this journey is not supposed to be about "giving up xyz". it's supposed to be about learning how much is enough and when enough is enough.

JenRLo

Cheese is loaded with fat. Milk to me is just disgusting now. I used to drink a lot of it, but since being enlightened about the dairy industry I cannot drink it anymore. It's loaded with hormones, antibiotics, pus, and fecal matter. Yes, it is pasteurized, but it is still just disgusting to me. After a human is weaned there is no need or place for milk in their diet. That's what weaning is - transitioning from a milk-based diet to a food-based diet. Cow's milk is only designed to nourish calves until they're able to graze - not humans. The "Got milk?" slogan should be changed to "Got obesity and diabetes?" It has no place in the human diet. Keep reading and learning - you may make a decision on this for reasons greater that giving up dairy as a weight loss tool.

Meat has fat, Avocado has fat, Peanuts and Almonds are Fat!
So let me get this straight: You claim that Cows milk are for baby calves?

Well are carrots for rabbits only? Should humans consume only humans?

Your idea of what someone should eat is way over the top!

By your logic I would not drink anything from animal eat anything from animal either?

Nuts are for squirrles?

All female mammals produce milk once they have given birth to provide nourishment for their young. Once the young are old enough to sustain on other foods, they stop nursing and the mother’s milk dries up. The only reason a cow has for producing milk is to feed its young. Some person walked past that calf one day and decided to sample what it was getting. Dairy industry was born. So, in the natural order of things, it is UN-natural for humans to drink cow's milk.

Jacwhite22

While pasta is delicious, it's not particularly nutrient dense. Dairy, on the other hand, has quite a few benefits. I stick to small portions of full-fat dairy, per my doctors recommendation. I was told that as vitamin D, for example, is fat soluble and necessary for calcium absorption, fat-free dairy isn't as useful in attaining nutrients. I have Celiac disease and when I was first gluten-free, it was important to make sure I was getting the nutrients my body had previously been unable to absorb.

I have always found it helpful to chat with a nutritionist or doctor about a food plan, especially before cutting out whole food groups.

Soy milk and almond milk have twice the amount of calcium and about half the calories of cow's milk. Look at the labels!

If we're going to talk macros maybe we should look at protein as well. just saying.

Most of my protein comes from wholemeal bread and unsweetened soya milk. I'm almost always over my protein goal.

What is your protein goal exactly per day?

Nevermind...I looked at your diary.....you average < 50 grams per day......we obviously have very different goals.

Pomroy89

No pasta and dairy = a life not worth living.

I second this statement!!

bcattoes

All female mammals produce milk once they have given birth to provide nourishment for their young. Once the young are old enough to sustain on other foods, they stop nursing and the mother’s milk dries up. The only reason a cow has for producing milk is to feed its young. Some person walked past that calf one day and decided to sample what it was getting. Dairy industry was born. So, in the natural order of things, it is UN-natural for humans to drink cow's milk.

How is this different from someone walking past a zucchini one day and deciding to sample it? The natural reason for zucchini is to spread the seed of the plant. Does that make UN-natural for me to eat zucchini.

jen14128

While pasta is delicious, it's not particularly nutrient dense. Dairy, on the other hand, has quite a few benefits. I stick to small portions of full-fat dairy, per my doctors recommendation. I was told that as vitamin D, for example, is fat soluble and necessary for calcium absorption, fat-free dairy isn't as useful in attaining nutrients. I have Celiac disease and when I was first gluten-free, it was important to make sure I was getting the nutrients my body had previously been unable to absorb.

I have always found it helpful to chat with a nutritionist or doctor about a food plan, especially before cutting out whole food groups.

Soy milk and almond milk have twice the amount of calcium and about half the calories of cow's milk. Look at the labels!

I tried "So Delicious" coconut milk yogurt this morning for the first time. the name did not lie. i will never go back to dairy yogurt. ugh.

DonniesGirl69

I would be endlessly sad w/o my Greek yogurt and Laughing Cow cheese

hamiltonba

Jay_Jay - did you read all the comments from people with diabetes that can eat that pasta? It really doesn't sound like a scam to me.

JenRLo

All female mammals produce milk once they have given birth to provide nourishment for their young. Once the young are old enough to sustain on other foods, they stop nursing and the mother’s milk dries up. The only reason a cow has for producing milk is to feed its young. Some person walked past that calf one day and decided to sample what it was getting. Dairy industry was born. So, in the natural order of things, it is UN-natural for humans to drink cow's milk.

How is this different from someone walking past a zucchini one day and deciding to sample it? The natural reason for zucchini is to spread the seed of the plant. Does that make UN-natural for me to eat zucchini.

And the natural reason a cow produces milk is to nourish its young. It doesn't need to disseminate anything. Once there is no more young to nourish, the milk goes away and it lives it's life. The sole purpose of a cow's life is NOT to produce milk whereas the sole purpose of the actual zucchini is to disseminate seeds.

snowgrrl83

All female mammals produce milk once they have given birth to provide nourishment for their young. Once the young are old enough to sustain on other foods, they stop nursing and the mother’s milk dries up. The only reason a cow has for producing milk is to feed its young. Some person walked past that calf one day and decided to sample what it was getting. Dairy industry was born. So, in the natural order of things, it is UN-natural for humans to drink cow's milk.

How is this different from someone walking past a zucchini one day and deciding to sample it? The natural reason for zucchini is to spread the seed of the plant. Does that make UN-natural for me to eat zucchini.

And the natural reason a cow produces milk is to nourish its young. It doesn't need to disseminate anything. Once there is no more young to nourish, the milk goes away and it lives it's life. The sole purpose of a cow's life is NOT to produce milk whereas the sole purpose of the actual zucchini is to disseminate seeds.

I can tell you that my house pets would do ANYTHING to have dairy! The only reason they don't have it regularly in their diet is because they haven't figured out how to milk cows, goats, etc. yet. Us humans have opposing thumbs that helped us accomplish that

Otherwise, pretty much all mammals would keep on drinking milk, especially from other species, into adulthood.

AmyP619

I be damn if I give anything I love!

Moderation = Success

me too!! moderation moderation moderation!!!!!! It's a lifestyle change, after all!