What do you count as water?

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  • c2111
    c2111 Posts: 693 Member
    wow cant believe this is still going, honestly water is water, as a RN when I put up fluids to prevent dehydration, its generally saline with a dash of glucose, predominantly water certainly not tea, milk etc .
    In the IV, sure - IV infusion of milk would be a bit problematic...
    But if you ae logging someone's oral intake, you'd count the other beverages, no?
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    In urology where fluid intake is extremely inportant- input and output recorded, we give them water to drink, they may Have 1 tea or coffee, and we do add that to the balance so yes you are correct, but they are consuming 2 litres of water, so 200 mls of tea can be added but water is the key, good clear urine with a good output is needed, can you imagine giving a renal paientt, 2 litres of coffee hmm I wouldnt like to consider the stress on an underfunctioning system.
  • 30Purple
    30Purple Posts: 252 Member
    WATER!
  • Aeriesified
    Aeriesified Posts: 206 Member
    Uh, not sure if trololol or srs.

    But just in case... just water. Even my herbal tea gets logged as food.
  • zenhappens
    zenhappens Posts: 1
    Anything that contains H20 will hydrate you, with the possible exception of, like, milk of magnesia.


    That means fruit, vegetables, most any food really... Diet soda, coffee, tea, those all hydrate you.


    Overhydrating is as much of a problem as dehydtration.

    Actually, any caffeinated beverage will be acting as a diuretic and pulling water out of your system. What I tell my patients is that you would only count water and herbal tea (non-stimulant or thermogenic, like chamomile for example) as "water".
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    The amount of caffeine in a caffeinated beverage is nowhere near enough to counteract the amount of water you're ingesting at the same time. And that doesn't even consider the fact that someone who regularly consumes caffeine builds a tolerance and becomes immune to the (incredibly slight) diuretic effect.

    A medical dose of caffeine to have a diuretic effect is 700 milligrams, with no water. An average diet soda has about 40 milligrams, along with 12 oz of water. There's been quite a bit of research on this topic over the last decade.

    From the Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinated-drinks/AN01661
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    wow cant believe this is still going, honestly water is water, as a RN when I put up fluids to prevent dehydration, its generally saline with a dash of glucose, predominantly water certainly not tea, milk etc .
    But saline with a dash of glucose is water with salt and sugar in it. How is that any different than tea, which is just water with tea leaf extracts in it? Or coffee, which is just water with coffee bean extracts in it? Both of those are "predominantly water."
  • CarSidDar
    CarSidDar Posts: 118 Member
    The amount of caffeine in a caffeinated beverage is nowhere near enough to counteract the amount of water you're ingesting at the same time. And that doesn't even consider the fact that someone who regularly consumes caffeine builds a tolerance and becomes immune to the (incredibly slight) diuretic effect.

    A medical dose of caffeine to have a diuretic effect is 700 milligrams, with no water. An average diet soda has about 40 milligrams, along with 12 oz of water. There's been quite a bit of research on this topic over the last decade.

    From the Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinated-drinks/AN01661

    Do you feel like you are banging your head against a brick wall? I cannot believe the myths, lies, and misunderstandings on here, the worst being from people who claim to be in the medical profession. I think they teach this garbage in medical school. Links to real research (not dr oz, not weight watchers, not oprah) but medical peer reviewed literature is ignored.

    H2O is water. No matter what it comes in it is water. No matter what is added it is still water. Your body takes the water out of whatever you eat, drink, or inject and uses it as water in all bodily functions, then the kidneys filter it out as urine.

    If you want to count glasses of water, count them however you want. it is your record of what you eat. Count water, count pop, count soup. It does not matter as long as you are consistent.

    HOWEVER,

    Don't believe that only clear, pure water is necessary for hydration! Don't believe that the amount of caffeine in a coffee, tea, coke, or mountain dew is going to dehydrate you, particularly if you drink it every day. It just is not possible.

    Yes it may make you pee more, but that is because it contains water and when you drink water, you pee.

    And please don't believe any of those cleansing myths that tell you that you MUST drink gallons of water to be healthy and detoxify. Your body removes all "toxins" as they are broken down by the liver and other organs in your body.

    And if you want links to any real research on any of this, just let me know. I'll send you the papers. I am a professional librarian in a corporate library. I am a professional engineer. I believe science.
  • buffcleb
    buffcleb Posts: 150 Member
    Pizza, beer and buffalo wings... dam I love my water...
  • OddChoices
    OddChoices Posts: 244 Member
    Just water. I don't count tea or coffee. I don't drink any soda or flavored drinks.
  • OspreyVista
    OspreyVista Posts: 464 Member
    Just water....

    FYI, I wouldn't count coffee or tea (unless it is herbal tea) as water because they are actually dehydrating and will require you to need additional water.

    That's good to know. Makes sense too!
  • LovelyLifter
    LovelyLifter Posts: 560 Member
    umm

    Water? :huh:
  • meg7399
    meg7399 Posts: 672 Member
    Just water....

    FYI, I wouldn't count coffee or tea (unless it is herbal tea) as water because they are actually dehydrating and will require you to need additional water.

    That's good to know. Makes sense too!
    That is not true. All nutritionalists agree coffee can be counted as water intake.
  • clohara
    clohara Posts: 21 Member
    I count my water in my shakes in the am and for lunch, which is a total of 4 glasses. Plus 4 normal glasses of water in a day and my crystal light. i dont count my milk as it is Almond mlik, not water. I am counting calories so I ttry (lol) to watch carefully to ensure ihave all of my water in daily.
  • rbear713
    rbear713 Posts: 220 Member
    water, coffee - that is all I count as water. and GOOD if coffee makes up you want more water -

    water rules!!
  • auntiebabs
    auntiebabs Posts: 1,754 Member
    Just water....

    FYI, I wouldn't count coffee or tea (unless it is herbal tea) as water because they are actually dehydrating and will require you to need additional water.

    Actually tea and coffee DON"T dehydrate you they just HYDRATE less effectively.
    This I knew and always counted coffee and tea as 1/2 the amount.

    But, I just read a study (I think it was by U PENN) about how the minimal the difference in hydration is between water and coffee, basically they said coffee is so close to water it's okay to count it as equivalent.

    I'm off to see if I can find the link and edit it into this message.


    FOUND TWO SOURCES

    MAYO CLINIC SAYS: (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinated-drinks/AN01661)
    Recent research shows that this is not true and that caffeine has a diuretic effect only if you consume large amounts of it — more than 500 to 600 milligrams (the equivalent of 5 to 7 cups of coffee) a day.

    HUFFINGTON POST SITES PENNSYLVANIA UNIVERSITY & LA TROBE UNIVERSITY STUDIES
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/07/hydration-tea-coffee-lettuce-hydration-better-water_n_1577105.html
  • fansiefree
    fansiefree Posts: 21 Member
    I only count regular water and seltzer water (helps with the soda cravings!)
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I quit counting water. Instead, I use a 32 oz cup and fill it at least twice a day.
  • cdngirl71
    cdngirl71 Posts: 2,641 Member
    Just water!
  • ndirish4life
    ndirish4life Posts: 17
    Just water. Anything else likely has sugar, caffein, sodium or some other such thing in it that I want to count toward all my daily goals. Water is water is water :)

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