OK I am a fat chick who loves wine
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I LOVE my craft brews!!! My husband brews his own, and we love going to microbrewerys for our vacations.
What I have done is add it to my calorie count every day, and go from there. It has worked for me, and I like you, average about 2 a day.
I am NOT giving it up. (I have lost 40 lbs since March).0 -
Stick to dry white wines. Those are the best.0
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You could try exercising a bit more to earn the extra wine calories, and keep eating nutritionally very sound otherwise.0
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I'm only going to say this once, and it's going to be harsh and most won't like what I am going to say. If you are a sensitive person, do not read any further.
Alcohol is not nutrition. If you are using your nutrition calories for alcohol, you are an idiot. You are doing two things, you are making your body malnourished, and you are replacing nutrition with poison for part of your allotted nutrition calories.
That's all I'm going to say on this. I'm sorry if that offends some people. But, I'm pretty passionate about it. Alcohol is always above and beyond for me.
So you don't ever drink or indulge in anything that isn't the healthiest of options?
You can argue that sugar is poison... or heavy metals found in shellfish... or packaged foods of any variety... or...
"I'm sorry that I'm offensive" isn't really a great excuse for being offensive. You just called people idiots with a very general and undefined statement. What does it mean to you to "use your nutrition calories" for alcohol. How many calories per day for nutrition? How many for whatever else you'd like? All or nothing?
I eat, on average, 2100 calories per day when I'm losing and about 2500-2600/day when I'm maintaining. Using 300 for wine isn't necessarily sacrificing good nutrition though you could argue that anything that didn't grow out of the ground or have a mother shouldn't be consumed.
This is definitely a more complex question and the blanket "You're an idiot" response is unwarranted.0 -
I'm only going to say this once, and it's going to be harsh and most won't like what I am going to say. If you are a sensitive person, do not read any further.
Alcohol is not nutrition. If you are using your nutrition calories for alcohol, you are an idiot. You are doing two things, you are making your body malnourished, and you are replacing nutrition with poison for part of your allotted nutrition calories.
That's all I'm going to say on this. I'm sorry if that offends some people. But, I'm pretty passionate about it. Alcohol is always above and beyond for me.
So you don't ever drink or indulge in anything that isn't the healthiest of options?
You can argue that sugar is poison... or heavy metals found in shellfish... or packaged foods of any variety... or...
"I'm sorry that I'm offensive" isn't really a great excuse for being offensive. You just called people idiots with a very general and undefined statement. What does it mean to you to "use your nutrition calories" for alcohol. How many calories per day for nutrition? How many for whatever else you'd like? All or nothing?
I eat, on average, 2100 calories per day when I'm losing and about 2500-2600/day when I'm maintaining. Using 300 for wine isn't necessarily sacrificing good nutrition though you could argue that anything that didn't grow out of the ground or have a mother shouldn't be consumed.
This is definitely a more complex question and the blanket "You're an idiot" response is unwarranted.
The difference with sugar or even heavy metals in shell fish are they are not always a choice, you have no control over them? a lot of food contain 'hidden sugar, and how can you avoid the heavy metal in shell fish? Where do you draw the line with food, unless your grow or produce all your own food you will always find 'undesirable' things in them. however choosing alchohol is a choice???? I choose a few glasses of wine at the weekend, but I allow it as a treat and earn the calories to have them, I wouldnt sacrifce food for them0 -
Try to cut back to 4oz of white wine per serving....usually that is about 110-120 calories.0
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The difference with sugar or even heavy metals in shell fish are they are not always a choice, you have no control over them? a lot of food contain 'hidden sugar, and how can you avoid the heavy metal in shell fish? Where do you draw the line with food, unless your grow or produce all your own food you will always find 'undesirable' things in them. however choosing alchohol is a choice???? I choose a few glasses of wine at the weekend, but I allow it as a treat and earn the calories to have them, I wouldnt sacrifce food for them
Eating foods with added sugar is always a choice. As is eating shellfish. We choose every time we put something in our bodies. My point was that each person chooses which "less-healthy" things they'd like to indulge in and which ones just aren't worth it to them. Unless you eat a completely 100%-healthy-all-the-time diet, you aren't in a position to call someone an idiot because they choose differently than you do. You have admitted to drinking a few glasses of wine at the weekend. So is your opinion that anyone who chooses to indulge on a different schedule is making a poorer decision for their health than you are?
Changing a person's lifestyle is something that happens over time. It's not really a lifestyle change if you jump in with both feet and change everything about everything you do. You start out with some changes, add in more changes and eventually, maybe, you end up in a place where you eat 100% healthy, 95% of the time. In today's world, I'd say that's about as good as it gets.
Maybe one day the OP will give up drinking altogether. Maybe I will too. But unless it stands in the way of meeting my goals, I don't feel the need to. I also haven't given up cheese. Crazy huh?0 -
Right on mrsbigmack!0
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The difference with sugar or even heavy metals in shell fish are they are not always a choice, you have no control over them? a lot of food contain 'hidden sugar, and how can you avoid the heavy metal in shell fish? Where do you draw the line with food, unless your grow or produce all your own food you will always find 'undesirable' things in them. however choosing alchohol is a choice???? I choose a few glasses of wine at the weekend, but I allow it as a treat and earn the calories to have them, I wouldnt sacrifce food for them
Eating foods with added sugar is always a choice. As is eating shellfish. We choose every time we put something in our bodies. My point was that each person chooses which "less-healthy" things they'd like to indulge in and which ones just aren't worth it to them. Unless you eat a completely 100%-healthy-all-the-time diet, you aren't in a position to call someone an idiot because they choose differently than you do. You have admitted to drinking a few glasses of wine at the weekend. So is your opinion that anyone who chooses to indulge on a different schedule is making a poorer decision for their health than you are?
Changing a person's lifestyle is something that happens over time. It's not really a lifestyle change if you jump in with both feet and change everything about everything you do. You start out with some changes, add in more changes and eventually, maybe, you end up in a place where you eat 100% healthy, 95% of the time. In today's world, I'd say that's about as good as it gets.
Maybe one day the OP will give up drinking altogether. Maybe I will too. But unless it stands in the way of meeting my goals, I don't feel the need to. I also haven't given up cheese. Crazy huh?
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I agree with you to a pont and perhaps the sugar thing was a bad example and if heavy metals was a concern for me then I wouldnt eat shellfish but as I eat it infrequently it isnt an issue, However the difference is I choose to have a couple of glasses of wine at the (odd) weekend but only if I have earned the calories, I have been prepared to make different choices to meet my goals, something the OP wasnt initially prepared to do,
btw the way I gave up cheese was to think of it pretty much as lumps of saturated fat...irespective of the taste!0 -
I gave up white bread, gave up butter, trying to give up sugar... not giving up my wine. :drinker:
Amen girl, Amen..i'm with ya on that.0 -
First of all, I'm not saying you should stop drinking wine, but a few glasses a night might be your issue. There's usually about 120 calories per 6 oz glass of wine. Most people pour a glass that is much larger than that. Could you maybe limit yourself to 1 glass on the week days and then let yourself indulge on weekends?
I tend to take into consideration my alcohol calories if I'm planning on drinking that night, so I'll either eat better during the day or work out more to make up for them. I also tend to let myself eat/drink more calories on the weekends so that I don't go crazy, and while I do realize this may slow down my weight loss, I think it makes dieting more sustainable.
I really love wine, so I feel your pain. Good luck!0 -
The difference with sugar or even heavy metals in shell fish are they are not always a choice, you have no control over them? a lot of food contain 'hidden sugar, and how can you avoid the heavy metal in shell fish? Where do you draw the line with food, unless your grow or produce all your own food you will always find 'undesirable' things in them. however choosing alchohol is a choice???? I choose a few glasses of wine at the weekend, but I allow it as a treat and earn the calories to have them, I wouldnt sacrifce food for them
Eating foods with added sugar is always a choice. As is eating shellfish. We choose every time we put something in our bodies. My point was that each person chooses which "less-healthy" things they'd like to indulge in and which ones just aren't worth it to them. Unless you eat a completely 100%-healthy-all-the-time diet, you aren't in a position to call someone an idiot because they choose differently than you do. You have admitted to drinking a few glasses of wine at the weekend. So is your opinion that anyone who chooses to indulge on a different schedule is making a poorer decision for their health than you are?
Changing a person's lifestyle is something that happens over time. It's not really a lifestyle change if you jump in with both feet and change everything about everything you do. You start out with some changes, add in more changes and eventually, maybe, you end up in a place where you eat 100% healthy, 95% of the time. In today's world, I'd say that's about as good as it gets.
Maybe one day the OP will give up drinking altogether. Maybe I will too. But unless it stands in the way of meeting my goals, I don't feel the need to. I also haven't given up cheese. Crazy huh?
I agree with you to a pont and perhaps the sugar thing was a bad example and if heavy metals was a concern for me then I wouldnt eat shellfish but as I eat it infrequently it isnt an issue, However the difference is I choose to have a couple of glasses of wine at the (odd) weekend but only if I have earned the calories, I have been prepared to make different choices to meet my goals, something the OP wasnt initially prepared to do,
btw the way I gave up cheese was to think of it pretty much as lumps of saturated fat...irespective of the taste!
Yeah I get what you're saying and my problem was with the name-calling dude at the top of page 4^^. I did say earlier I think you need to earn the calories... working out is kind of the only way to earn calories. So yeah... if you are sedentary, you're likely sacrificing nutrition for alcohol, which isn't wise but may also not hamper your weight loss efforts initially.
Anyway, I don't see cheese as bad. Actually, I believe the hype about saturated fat being bad is bunk... my kids drink 2% milk and we eat butter instead of margarine around here... so it's all a matter of choice I think
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I've struggled for years to lose weight but in the past I always factored alcohol calories into my diet. What I didn't factor in was the lack of self control the alcohol gave me as it weakened my resolve and made me snack. Anyway, I joined mfp in January about the same time I gave up alcohol due to it conflicting with medication for rheumatoid arthritis. I can honestly say it's the best thing I ever did. This time around the weight is coming off and I don't feel hungry all the time. It was hard at first but now I don't even miss it.0
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Weight watchers wine - whole bottle down the hatch and 100 calories less then generic wines........ wehey!!!0
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Ive read through most of the comments. Over the last few months Ive started drinking wine probably at least 4 or more time a week, at least two glasses. I new it wasnt good, but didnt realize how many calories was in it! maybe its time to cut back for a while, and see if the weight starts coming back off.0
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The French drink wine every night and they are not a fat culture, rude yes, fat no.
Um, stereotype much?
They're healthier than us in the UK, and definitely than in the US, because they don't eat loads of junk.
I lived in France for a year as part of my degree, and I worked there as an au pair, and they don't drink wine every night at all, and they're definitely not rude.
I, on the other hand, drank a lot of wine (and vodka, and martini, etc etc) when I lived there (yes, us Brits have a great reputation
). I didn't eat a lot though, and I lost a lot of weight that year without even trying! I was only 21 then, and I wouldn't recommend that as a diet!
I think, as several people have said, just cut down on the wine. Unfortunately it does have a lot of calories, so either drink less, or have it with diet lemonade or something.0 -
1 large glass of wine = 3 units of alcohol.
2 glasses a day = 42 UNITS PER WEEK
3 glasses a day = 63 UNITS PER WEEK
You are drinking at a harmful level and in ten years time could well have developed liver cirrhosis. You will also be raising your blood pressure and risking strokes, amongst plenty of other harmful effects of chronic alcohol use.
The best advise is to aim for 2 ABSTINENT days a week for health so your body can completely clear the alcohol.
If you have trouble achieving this you should consult a specialist as soon as you can.0 -
The difference with sugar or even heavy metals in shell fish are they are not always a choice, you have no control over them? a lot of food contain 'hidden sugar, and how can you avoid the heavy metal in shell fish? Where do you draw the line with food, unless your grow or produce all your own food you will always find 'undesirable' things in them. however choosing alchohol is a choice???? I choose a few glasses of wine at the weekend, but I allow it as a treat and earn the calories to have them, I wouldnt sacrifce food for them
Eating foods with added sugar is always a choice. As is eating shellfish. We choose every time we put something in our bodies. My point was that each person chooses which "less-healthy" things they'd like to indulge in and which ones just aren't worth it to them. Unless you eat a completely 100%-healthy-all-the-time diet, you aren't in a position to call someone an idiot because they choose differently than you do. You have admitted to drinking a few glasses of wine at the weekend. So is your opinion that anyone who chooses to indulge on a different schedule is making a poorer decision for their health than you are?
Changing a person's lifestyle is something that happens over time. It's not really a lifestyle change if you jump in with both feet and change everything about everything you do. You start out with some changes, add in more changes and eventually, maybe, you end up in a place where you eat 100% healthy, 95% of the time. In today's world, I'd say that's about as good as it gets.
Maybe one day the OP will give up drinking altogether. Maybe I will too. But unless it stands in the way of meeting my goals, I don't feel the need to. I also haven't given up cheese. Crazy huh?
I agree with you to a pont and perhaps the sugar thing was a bad example and if heavy metals was a concern for me then I wouldnt eat shellfish but as I eat it infrequently it isnt an issue, However the difference is I choose to have a couple of glasses of wine at the (odd) weekend but only if I have earned the calories, I have been prepared to make different choices to meet my goals, something the OP wasnt initially prepared to do,
btw the way I gave up cheese was to think of it pretty much as lumps of saturated fat...irespective of the taste!
Yeah I get what you're saying and my problem was with the name-calling dude at the top of page 4^^. I did say earlier I think you need to earn the calories... working out is kind of the only way to earn calories. So yeah... if you are sedentary, you're likely sacrificing nutrition for alcohol, which isn't wise but may also not hamper your weight loss efforts initially.
Anyway, I don't see cheese as bad. Actually, I believe the hype about saturated fat being bad is bunk... my kids drink 2% milk and we eat butter instead of margarine around here... so it's all a matter of choice I think
I dont eat cheese primarily as I cant justifty the calories for it on a day to day basis but I do like it - but I do too choose butter over margarine purely because margarine is one step removed from eating plastic (literally) the more I research what goes into food the less inclined to eat a lot of it!0 -
I've been alcohol free for almost 3 weeks now. I'm losing weight and I'm not hungry, which is great. But I know there is no way I'll be able to remain alcohol free forever. I'm just doing it to kick off my new fitness lifestyle. I will slowly add a little back in. While there is no way I will be drinking like I was, I see nothing wrong if I enjoy a couple drinks one or two days a week. If I really see that it effects my results, I will probably stop again but I'll wait and see.0
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ive noticed that fat or skinny women wine alot!0
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