A tip for parents (and others, I guess)

sktllmdrhmzz
sktllmdrhmzz Posts: 189 Member
If you're eager for your children to hide things from you, discipline them without asking them about things first. Works like a charm. They'll never come to you with anything.

Kick out your daughter's boyfriend for something in a search history? Guess who's gonna go out and learn how to clear search histories?
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  • scs143
    scs143 Posts: 2,190 Member
    Have kids?
  • Cliffslosinit
    Cliffslosinit Posts: 5,044 Member
    Dammit she beat me to it.....this will be fun. Popcorn anyone??
  • DontStopB_Leakin
    DontStopB_Leakin Posts: 3,863 Member
    If you're eager for your children to hide things from you, discipline them without asking them about things first. Works like a charm. They'll never come to you with anything.

    Kick out your daughter's boyfriend for something in a search history? Guess who's gonna go out and learn how to clear search histories?

    Be my daddy?


    Wait huh??
  • scs143
    scs143 Posts: 2,190 Member
    Dammit she beat me to it.....this will be fun. Popcorn anyone??

    Lol, I am not trying to argue with him, just curious. It's always easy for those who don't have to suggest ways in which parents ("or others") could do something different.
  • magj0y
    magj0y Posts: 1,911 Member
    If you're eager for your children to hide things from you, discipline them without asking them about things first. Works like a charm. They'll never come to you with anything.

    Kick out your daughter's boyfriend for something in a search history? Guess who's gonna go out and learn how to clear search histories?

    so so very true.

    however, in this house, there is no deleting history, LMAO. My kid was so dumb to actually think their dad wouldn't know how to fetch it. bone head, she knows better!
  • Cliffslosinit
    Cliffslosinit Posts: 5,044 Member
    Dammit she beat me to it.....this will be fun. Popcorn anyone??

    Lol, I am not trying to argue with him, just curious. It's always easy for those who don't have to suggest ways in which parents ("or others") could do something different.

    That was my question...it's all good. Ask him again. Hey OP answer the question...please.
  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
    Dammit she beat me to it.....this will be fun. Popcorn anyone??

    Yes, please. Extra butter on mine.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    If you're eager for your children to hide things from you, discipline them without asking them about things first. Works like a charm. They'll never come to you with anything.

    Kick out your daughter's boyfriend for something in a search history? Guess who's gonna go out and learn how to clear search histories?

    so so very true.

    however, in this house, there is no deleting history, LMAO. My kid was so dumb to actually think their dad wouldn't know how to fetch it. bone head, she knows better!

    I installed Norton 360 with parental controls... even if they delete the history, Norton tracks their every move for me.
  • sktllmdrhmzz
    sktllmdrhmzz Posts: 189 Member
    so so very true.

    however, in this house, there is no deleting history, LMAO. My kid was so dumb to actually think their dad wouldn't know how to fetch it. bone head, she knows better!

    So you think they don't know how to remove it site by site? You nuke the whole thing and it's obvious it's been tampered with.
  • penrbrown
    penrbrown Posts: 2,685 Member
    Kids lie. Sometimes 'asking' them isn't enough.
  • sktllmdrhmzz
    sktllmdrhmzz Posts: 189 Member
    I installed Norton 360 with parental controls... even if they delete the history, Norton tracks their every move for me.

    Unless they're running Linux from a thumbdrive.
  • Bentley2718
    Bentley2718 Posts: 1,689 Member
    If you're eager for your children to hide things from you, discipline them without asking them about things first. Works like a charm. They'll never come to you with anything.

    Kick out your daughter's boyfriend for something in a search history? Guess who's gonna go out and learn how to clear search histories?

    Perfectly said. Thank you!

    Yes kids sometimes lie, but they tell the truth too. Also, when you do something like say, banning a boyfriend, that thing often becomes the forbidden fruit. You'd be better off discussing why certain choices are bad ones (like trying to make meth).
  • magj0y
    magj0y Posts: 1,911 Member
    If you're eager for your children to hide things from you, discipline them without asking them about things first. Works like a charm. They'll never come to you with anything.

    Kick out your daughter's boyfriend for something in a search history? Guess who's gonna go out and learn how to clear search histories?

    so so very true.

    however, in this house, there is no deleting history, LMAO. My kid was so dumb to actually think their dad wouldn't know how to fetch it. bone head, she knows better!

    I installed Norton 360 with parental controls... even if they delete the history, Norton tracks their every move for me.

    yeah, there are ways around that as well. However, unless my daughter can figure out what the husband's root password is... she is SOL
  • sktllmdrhmzz
    sktllmdrhmzz Posts: 189 Member
    Lol, I am not trying to argue with him, just curious. It's always easy for those who don't have to suggest ways in which parents ("or others") could do something different.

    I agree it's a lot harder to know what does work, but some things are pretty easy to see as bad ideas.
  • skinnyinnotime
    skinnyinnotime Posts: 4,078 Member
    So, what's the tip?
  • sktllmdrhmzz
    sktllmdrhmzz Posts: 189 Member
    So, what's the tip?

    Act like a warden and your kids will learn to act like criminals.
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    My kids knew how to clear search histories at age 10 or so, even before I knew of search histories.
  • bwcrouch
    bwcrouch Posts: 105 Member
    If you're eager for your children to hide things from you, discipline them without asking them about things first. Works like a charm. They'll never come to you with anything.

    Kick out your daughter's boyfriend for something in a search history? Guess who's gonna go out and learn how to clear search histories?

    index.dat - google for a free reader. Also, don't give kids administrative access. Set up a generic user for them and disable their ability to clear history in the registry and disable their ability to edit the registry. You can google that too. :)
  • JenniBaby85
    JenniBaby85 Posts: 855 Member
    Kids lie. Sometimes 'asking' them isn't enough.

    :flowerforyou: I was going to say that too!
  • corn63
    corn63 Posts: 1,580 Member
    I'm going to take away the spoons from ALL the stirrers. ALL OF THEM.
  • magj0y
    magj0y Posts: 1,911 Member
    so so very true.

    however, in this house, there is no deleting history, LMAO. My kid was so dumb to actually think their dad wouldn't know how to fetch it. bone head, she knows better!

    So you think they don't know how to remove it site by site? You nuke the whole thing and it's obvious it's been tampered with.

    we have a network in our house and everything that goes to their computer goes through a server. That server logs everything and redflags specific types of websites. So unless they know how to access the server with it's password on my husband's computer with it's own password, and how to figure out how to find this specific stuff, no. They can't erase it. As a parent, I know when they're up to stuff and when it's time to see where they've been. I typically leave their stuff alone unless it's obvious they're up to something. It's like when they're 3. If they're quiet you KNOW they're up to something.
  • jeolds
    jeolds Posts: 104 Member
    If you're eager for your children to hide things from you, discipline them without asking them about things first. Works like a charm. They'll never come to you with anything.

    Kick out your daughter's boyfriend for something in a search history? Guess who's gonna go out and learn how to clear search histories?

    so so very true.

    however, in this house, there is no deleting history, LMAO. My kid was so dumb to actually think their dad wouldn't know how to fetch it. bone head, she knows better!

    Yeah, that is always fun. They freak when they start to find out you know far more than they do. Like being able to pull the history for the router's cache. LOL
  • lour441
    lour441 Posts: 543 Member
    My kids don't even know I have a key logger. Good luck to them.
  • zewolf77
    zewolf77 Posts: 173 Member
    I installed Norton 360 with parental controls... even if they delete the history, Norton tracks their every move for me.

    Unless they're running Linux from a thumbdrive.

    Buy a small SOHO Firewall/Router with logging capabilities. Use the proxy feature and force all web traffic through that link. Unless they use their cell phone.. you'll know.

    Otherwise, yes.. I agree with you completely. If we want our kids to be open and honest with them, we should do the same with them.
  • magj0y
    magj0y Posts: 1,911 Member
    If you're eager for your children to hide things from you, discipline them without asking them about things first. Works like a charm. They'll never come to you with anything.

    Kick out your daughter's boyfriend for something in a search history? Guess who's gonna go out and learn how to clear search histories?

    so so very true.

    however, in this house, there is no deleting history, LMAO. My kid was so dumb to actually think their dad wouldn't know how to fetch it. bone head, she knows better!

    Yeah, that is always fun. They freak when they start to find out you know far more than they do. Like being able to pull the history for the router's cache. LOL

    For awhile there was some serious boyfriend drama, so we just logged their facebook chat. It was pretty damned annoying. at least my husband made them in pretty, easy to read colors? :flowerforyou: I love him! He makes my parenting so much easier with his skills!
  • sdumma
    sdumma Posts: 126 Member
    [/quote]

    Perfectly said. Thank you!

    Yes kids sometimes lie, but they tell the truth too. Also, when you do something like say, banning a boyfriend, that thing often becomes the forbidden fruit. You'd be better off discussing why certain choices are bad ones (like trying to make meth).
    [/quote]

    Very much agree. Good thoughtful parents know how to trust their kids and have them trust you in return. I see this time and time again parents blowing up on their kids only to have it backfire in their faces. If only my parents new this trick lol
    I know because not only do I have children, but I was one of those bad *kitten* kids myself.
  • sktllmdrhmzz
    sktllmdrhmzz Posts: 189 Member
    index.dat - google for a free reader. Also, don't give kids administrative access. Set up a generic user for them and disable their ability to clear history in the registry and disable their ability to edit the registry. You can google that too. :)

    Except that Firefox, etc. doesn't use index.dat. Anywho, I get your point. You could go all the way down to putting a password on the BIOS, but most people would probably rather shoot themselves in the face than deal with what it would actually take to make things "foolproof."
  • So, what's the tip?

    Act like a warden and your kids will learn to act like criminals.

    My dad used to ask me about the situation at hand first. Problem was, he always interrogated me (he has law enforcement background and now works as a fed). That clearly didn't work either. I became very good at lying to avoid the situation all together. Sometimes a little open communication and trust can go a long way.
  • If you're eager for your children to hide things from you, discipline them without asking them about things first. Works like a charm. They'll never come to you with anything.

    Kick out your daughter's boyfriend for something in a search history? Guess who's gonna go out and learn how to clear search histories?

    I agree with this also. It's important for your children to trust you so that they will come to you if ever they have an actual problem. Kids will be kids no matter how strict or laid-back you are as a parent. The difference is that one set of parents will know whats going on in their lives, while the others will be oblivious because their children will hide everything from them.

    I don't need to be a parent to know this-- I was a stupid kid very recently, and still am. Maybe some of my ****ty decisions could have been prevented if I had felt comfortable admitting the truth to my own parents.
  • k9 web protection...it is free. it tracks, blocks, totally customizable. i use it at work for co-workers who want to facebook all day.