Does an hour of cardio a day burn muscle?

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  • josiereside
    josiereside Posts: 720 Member
    Shout-out to all the previous responses for demonstrating exactly why I hate most people on MFP
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    Right there with ya!! Jeez, people cannot ask a question without smart *kitten* responses.
  • skinimin
    skinimin Posts: 252 Member
    I want waffels.
  • sugarplumfairy72
    sugarplumfairy72 Posts: 11 Member
    Its a well known fact that doing cardio everyday is the most important thing you can do for your health but lets assume you don’t care about your health, lets talk about gaining muscle. I know you are used to hearing that “cardio burns muscle” but I’m going to show you why that’s wrong. Cardio does NOT hurt your ability to gain muscle at all and it might even HELP you to ADD muscle mass.

    The reason that cardio has gotten a bad reputation for burning muscle is that most often, people couple drastic diets with cardio in their effort to “cut” after “bulking” – its why I hate the whole bulking and cutting mentality. ) Its the drastic caloric reduction that is responsible for the muscle loss, not the cardio! If you don’t consume enough protein and enough calories, your body will cannibalize your muscles – a good safe limit is not to reduce your calories by more than 20% below your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure).Proper nutrition while dieting is key to insuring you don’t lose muscle mass. You can lose weight with an all-twinkie dietbut you will lose lots of muscle at the same time!

    So cardio doesn’t burn muscle, but how might it help you GAIN muscle? – Lets look at THREE ways:
    1.DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness) is a common result of intense workouts and doing 20-30min of daily cardio increases circulation and the increased nutrient flow by the muscle helps the muscles rebuild faster.
    2.Not every workout plan has 5 minutes rest between sets, some workouts you will need to do to build mass are very taxing to your cardiovascular system. If you don’t constantly work to keep your cardiovascular system running at peak performance there are workouts you just wont be able to do with sufficient intensity to gain mass.
    3.There are intense weight workouts that double as cardio workouts and these go by several names - hybrid workouts, complexes, etc – and they all have one thing in common, they take compound weightlifting exercises and do them repeatedly for cardio – often as intervals. These hybrid workouts can build muscle and give you a cardio workout at the same time!


    Cardio does not burn muscle mass, crash diets and bad nutrition burn muscle mass! 20-40min cardio every day is not only good for your health but it can help you add muscle as well.




    There are some situations where muscle gets burned, lets look at those in depth so you can avoid them.
    1.If its the only energy source available, your body will burn muscle to survive. Fat is our bodies energy storage device, our gas tank that enables us to survive when food is scarce. If you haven’t eaten anything AND your bodyfat is dangerously low, then your body has no choice than to burn muscle in order to get the necessary energy to keep you warm and alive. What does your body consider dangerously low bodyfat, for males probably 3-5%. In this low bodyfat situation, your body will burn muscle to provide the energy to keep you alive. Very few of us have bodyfat low enough that we have to worry about this! A very small percent of the population is perpetually skinny (under 3% bodyfat), that is, no matter how much they stuff their face, they cant add an ounce of fat. For these people, they have enough trouble consuming enough calories to survive – doing cardio would burn muscle.
    2.If you are not consuming enough protein your body will burn muscle, this is often the case in crash diets. “Essential Amino Acids” are called essential for a reason, your must eat them in sufficient quantities or your body has no choice other than to cannibalize your muscles to get them. When people reduce their caloric intake more than 20% below their TDEE, it is *very* difficult to get enough of these essential amino acids with the protein you eat. Even when you don’t lift weights, your body needs daily protein to replace the muscle cells which have died. If you don’t eat enough protein, the muscle cells don’t get replaced. If you are doing a crash diet, then doing cardio will increase the muscle loss. DONT DO CRASH DIETS!

    How Much Cardio Is Too Much?

    So 20-40 minutes of cardio a day is good for you and helps you gain muscle, is more cardio better? What I have found with my own personal experience, is that there are four issues that crop up and hinder muscular gains when you do too much cardio:
    1.Short term fatigue. If you play an intense game of soccer or basketball and workout right afterward, you will have a lousy workout and your muscular development will suffer. Your body can only take so much and if you are exhausted from running all over the field, there is no way you can put enough intensity into your workout to make gains. However, if you wait 4-6 hours to recuperate before lifting weights, you weight workout will be just as aggressive and successful as if you hadn’t done the cardio.
    2.Total exhaustion, cardio till you drop. Depending on your conditioning and intensity level, after 3-16 hours you will just konk out. If you have ever done endurance sports, you know exactly what total exhaustion feels like. For me, doing an olympic length triathlon which is about 3hrs of intense cardio puts me on the edge – 4 hours would definitely put me in the total exhaustion category. For my long distance cycling trips, because the intensity is much lower I can go 12-14 hours before reaching total exhaustion. Once you reach total exhaustion, any weight workout you attempt will not be successful. Not only will you be too tired to aggressively push the weights but after the workout, your body will be too busy repairing itself from the brutal cardio session to be able to build up your muscles.
    3.Repetitive motion injuries. Often its not the cardio itself that’s the problem, it’s the injuries. Do anything for more than 4 hours and you are asking for repetitive motion injuries, doesn’t matter if its running, rowing, swimming or cycling. Once your joints are in pain, any possibility of muscle mass gaining weight workouts go out the window.
    4.Overtraining. This is the biggie. If you get too much cardio, the major muscle which has provided your locomotion is essentially doing a mega-rep, low weight workout. If you do 6 hours of squats, you will suffer from severe overtraining and lose both strength and muscle mass. Likewise, if you do two marathons a day you will lose leg mass which leads us to this amazing study ..

    Now I know that some of you are STILL worried about cardio burning muscle so lets look at a great study (1,2,3)where they monitored body composition of athletes in the trans-europe run where they ran 2800 miles in 64 days – that’s an average 43 miles a day. The results were really interesting and not what you might expect. Obviously they lost fat and lots of it. The interesting part was that the runners didn’t lose ANY muscle mass in their upper bodies, ALL the mass was lost in their legs – why? Overtraining!!!. So if these athletes can run 43 miles (6 hours) every day all summer long without losing any upper body muscle mass, certainly YOU can jog for 60 minutes without losing muscle mass!

    Remember, your body is really smart and it wont burn muscle unless you do something really stupid like running 3000 miles or doing a drastic fad diet.
  • fatboypup
    fatboypup Posts: 1,873 Member
    I want waffels.
    i want chicken AND WAFFLES
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  • iWaffle
    iWaffle Posts: 2,208 Member
    I want waffels.

    Resistance is futile. Waffles will rule the world. Muuu haaa haa haaa!
  • fatboypup
    fatboypup Posts: 1,873 Member
    gotta have some protein with ZEE EVIL CARBS!
  • iWaffle
    iWaffle Posts: 2,208 Member
    i want chicken AND WAFFLES

    Yes! Let the hunger flow through you. Feel the power of the dark side!
  • BigBrewski
    BigBrewski Posts: 922 Member
    I want waffels.
    i want chicken AND WAFFLES
    chicken_and_waffles.jpg

    mmmmm now that looks good!!!!
  • drgndancer
    drgndancer Posts: 426 Member
    Its a well known fact that doing cardio everyday is the most important thing you can do for your health but lets assume you don’t care about your health, lets talk about gaining muscle. I know you are used to hearing that “cardio burns muscle” but I’m going to show you why that’s wrong. Cardio does NOT hurt your ability to gain muscle at all and it might even HELP you to ADD muscle mass.

    The reason that cardio has gotten a bad reputation for burning muscle is that most often, people couple drastic diets with cardio in their effort to “cut” after “bulking” – its why I hate the whole bulking and cutting mentality. ) Its the drastic caloric reduction that is responsible for the muscle loss, not the cardio! If you don’t consume enough protein and enough calories, your body will cannibalize your muscles – a good safe limit is not to reduce your calories by more than 20% below your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure).Proper nutrition while dieting is key to insuring you don’t lose muscle mass. You can lose weight with an all-twinkie dietbut you will lose lots of muscle at the same time!

    So cardio doesn’t burn muscle, but how might it help you GAIN muscle? – Lets look at THREE ways:
    1.DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness) is a common result of intense workouts and doing 20-30min of daily cardio increases circulation and the increased nutrient flow by the muscle helps the muscles rebuild faster.
    2.Not every workout plan has 5 minutes rest between sets, some workouts you will need to do to build mass are very taxing to your cardiovascular system. If you don’t constantly work to keep your cardiovascular system running at peak performance there are workouts you just wont be able to do with sufficient intensity to gain mass.
    3.There are intense weight workouts that double as cardio workouts and these go by several names - hybrid workouts, complexes, etc – and they all have one thing in common, they take compound weightlifting exercises and do them repeatedly for cardio – often as intervals. These hybrid workouts can build muscle and give you a cardio workout at the same time!


    Cardio does not burn muscle mass, crash diets and bad nutrition burn muscle mass! 20-40min cardio every day is not only good for your health but it can help you add muscle as well.




    There are some situations where muscle gets burned, lets look at those in depth so you can avoid them.
    1.If its the only energy source available, your body will burn muscle to survive. Fat is our bodies energy storage device, our gas tank that enables us to survive when food is scarce. If you haven’t eaten anything AND your bodyfat is dangerously low, then your body has no choice than to burn muscle in order to get the necessary energy to keep you warm and alive. What does your body consider dangerously low bodyfat, for males probably 3-5%. In this low bodyfat situation, your body will burn muscle to provide the energy to keep you alive. Very few of us have bodyfat low enough that we have to worry about this! A very small percent of the population is perpetually skinny (under 3% bodyfat), that is, no matter how much they stuff their face, they cant add an ounce of fat. For these people, they have enough trouble consuming enough calories to survive – doing cardio would burn muscle.
    2.If you are not consuming enough protein your body will burn muscle, this is often the case in crash diets. “Essential Amino Acids” are called essential for a reason, your must eat them in sufficient quantities or your body has no choice other than to cannibalize your muscles to get them. When people reduce their caloric intake more than 20% below their TDEE, it is *very* difficult to get enough of these essential amino acids with the protein you eat. Even when you don’t lift weights, your body needs daily protein to replace the muscle cells which have died. If you don’t eat enough protein, the muscle cells don’t get replaced. If you are doing a crash diet, then doing cardio will increase the muscle loss. DONT DO CRASH DIETS!

    How Much Cardio Is Too Much?

    So 20-40 minutes of cardio a day is good for you and helps you gain muscle, is more cardio better? What I have found with my own personal experience, is that there are four issues that crop up and hinder muscular gains when you do too much cardio:
    1.Short term fatigue. If you play an intense game of soccer or basketball and workout right afterward, you will have a lousy workout and your muscular development will suffer. Your body can only take so much and if you are exhausted from running all over the field, there is no way you can put enough intensity into your workout to make gains. However, if you wait 4-6 hours to recuperate before lifting weights, you weight workout will be just as aggressive and successful as if you hadn’t done the cardio.
    2.Total exhaustion, cardio till you drop. Depending on your conditioning and intensity level, after 3-16 hours you will just konk out. If you have ever done endurance sports, you know exactly what total exhaustion feels like. For me, doing an olympic length triathlon which is about 3hrs of intense cardio puts me on the edge – 4 hours would definitely put me in the total exhaustion category. For my long distance cycling trips, because the intensity is much lower I can go 12-14 hours before reaching total exhaustion. Once you reach total exhaustion, any weight workout you attempt will not be successful. Not only will you be too tired to aggressively push the weights but after the workout, your body will be too busy repairing itself from the brutal cardio session to be able to build up your muscles.
    3.Repetitive motion injuries. Often its not the cardio itself that’s the problem, it’s the injuries. Do anything for more than 4 hours and you are asking for repetitive motion injuries, doesn’t matter if its running, rowing, swimming or cycling. Once your joints are in pain, any possibility of muscle mass gaining weight workouts go out the window.
    4.Overtraining. This is the biggie. If you get too much cardio, the major muscle which has provided your locomotion is essentially doing a mega-rep, low weight workout. If you do 6 hours of squats, you will suffer from severe overtraining and lose both strength and muscle mass. Likewise, if you do two marathons a day you will lose leg mass which leads us to this amazing study ..

    Now I know that some of you are STILL worried about cardio burning muscle so lets look at a great study (1,2,3)where they monitored body composition of athletes in the trans-europe run where they ran 2800 miles in 64 days – that’s an average 43 miles a day. The results were really interesting and not what you might expect. Obviously they lost fat and lots of it. The interesting part was that the runners didn’t lose ANY muscle mass in their upper bodies, ALL the mass was lost in their legs – why? Overtraining!!!. So if these athletes can run 43 miles (6 hours) every day all summer long without losing any upper body muscle mass, certainly YOU can jog for 60 minutes without losing muscle mass!

    Remember, your body is really smart and it wont burn muscle unless you do something really stupid like running 3000 miles or doing a drastic fad diet.

    If you're going to post an entire article written by someone else, at least credit them. This is a copy paste from:
    http://scoobysworkshop.com/does-cardio-burn-muscle/

    It's a good article and I definetely agree with the premise, but credit someone else's work.
  • RobinvdM
    RobinvdM Posts: 634 Member
    To the poor guy with the large arms and huge gut on the ab machine at my gym last night, no we'll never see your abs. You're fat! Go do some cardio and eat better.

    That was very unkind. You don't HAVE to do cardio to lose weight, he just MIGHT be eating better and have already lost some weight and wants to start working other things besides his heart rate. I sure hope when THIS fat lady is on the ab machine you aren't next to me with all that hate burning a hole in your head.

    And to the OP I spend an hour a day on cardio except for Sunday (bowling yay!) and Monday, day off. I doubt that cardio for 60 minutes is going to hurt your muscle stores unless you have no fat to burn off and are underfeeding yourself- but that is a guess since I am in no danger of being an underfed skinny chick doing 60 mins of cardio LMAO :)
  • RobynMWilson
    RobynMWilson Posts: 1,540 Member
    one thing I can say is that as a former cardio addict, it wasn't working for me anymore. My body wasn't responding and I had to add heavy weight lifting to my routine in order to start seeing results again. I was working out 6 days per week and didn't look it at all. Too much of the same will no longer challenge your body
  • VeggieKidMandy
    VeggieKidMandy Posts: 575 Member
    I honestly think cardio is person dependent. If you are extremely small and trying to loose weight, then yes I would assume you would be burning more muscle instead of fat because there is less mass. And vice versa....
  • Woah I didn't think I would get this many responses, and I'm pretty happy I have a good sense of humor because some of these made me laugh :p
  • I had some waffles today.. :)
  • ali_b83
    ali_b83 Posts: 324 Member
    cardio till you puke is my motto

    Care to back that up with a pony?

    Challenge accepted.
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  • arc918
    arc918 Posts: 2,037 Member
    Never mind burning muscle, too much cardio WILL make your uterus fall out!
  • ItzPSGina62
    ItzPSGina62 Posts: 99 Member
    Sometimes this can get so complicated! I just eat healthy, fresh whole foods for the most part....and exercise. I have been doing Zumba and Insanity (which I greatly modify to my fitness level). Our fitness trainer, at work measured my body fat over the last month. I lost five pounds...and of those five pounds I lost five pounds of fat. I lost a lot of inches and had to go down a pant size (of an overall loss of 20 pounds). The last two days I've been on "bed rest" ~ blah...because I have a cold/flu something......and it's frustrating to not exercise. I don't know..I think WHAT you EAT has A LOT to do with it. I remember going to the gym for years and seeing the same people daily, looking the same way????~~ This is a non-expert opinion....so don't slam me. BTW some people have serious questions and it's weird to see such sarcasm and disrespect....justs sayin'
  • HeatherPH
    HeatherPH Posts: 125 Member
    Shout-out to all the previous responses for demonstrating exactly why I hate most people on MFP

    Yup.
  • whatever your body can sustain... make sure that you eat a good calorie target to meet your goals and everything in moderation should be fine
  • Sharyn913
    Sharyn913 Posts: 777 Member
    I agree with one of the other posters.....I prefer short burst of intense cardio. Helps burn more calories without risking muscle loss from excessive cardio session's. besides, why in the hell would ya wanna spend an hour doing cardio?? Hit it hard, hit it fast and get the hell outta there!!!

    Are you still talking about cardio???
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    cardio till you puke is my motto

    Care to back that up with a pony?

    Challenge accepted.
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    53935-double_rainbowmemepukerainbowrainbow_dashthrowing_upvomit.jpg

    loled irl
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Shout-out to all the previous responses for demonstrating exactly why I hate most people on MFP
    u hate us but cant stay away. we r like those sour candies. they taste sooo bad but u gotta have another one. (just jokes lol)

    Sour candy is yummy! I eat the WarHeads and then spit them out when the sour layer is gone and it turns sweet!
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I want waffels.
    i want chicken AND WAFFLES
    chicken_and_waffles.jpg

    mmmmm now that looks good!!!!

    You guys can keep the chicken. I'll have bacon and sausage with my waffles!
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I agree with one of the other posters.....I prefer short burst of intense cardio. Helps burn more calories without risking muscle loss from excessive cardio session's. besides, why in the hell would ya wanna spend an hour doing cardio?? Hit it hard, hit it fast and get the hell outta there!!!

    Are you still talking about cardio???

    What was the OP again?
  • Angie__1MR
    Angie__1MR Posts: 388 Member
    ...here we go with the cardio bunnies.
  • KittieLea
    KittieLea Posts: 1,156 Member
    Please pass me some waffle syrup....I'll pass some popcorn :glasses:
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Oi vey... this is a flamer topic...

    Bottom line, put simply... the body will burn available energy sources.. typically this is through carbs and fats.. Losing any type of muscle mass has more to do with inadequate diet than burning cardio. You gotta feed the machine kids...

    an hour of cardio will be fine... of course, there are so many factors to any of these questions.. Are you high intensity training,,or low intensity. blah blah blah....

    This is exactly right. What your body burns during exercise depends on diet/nutrition, not on time.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    I'd like to do cardio for about an hour today, but I heard past 40 minutes and your body begins to burn muscle instead of fat :( is this true?

    It depends on a couple of factors including the severity of your calorie deficit and your carb consumption / glycogen levels.

    The Tremblay study shows the hormonal environment starts to turn catabolic around the 80 minute mark so 40 minutes should be fine depending on the other factors mentioned above.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    I'd like to do cardio for about an hour today, but I heard past 40 minutes and your body begins to burn muscle instead of fat :( is this true?

    No. Cardiovascular does not "burn muscle" at all. Next question?
  • YogaNikki
    YogaNikki Posts: 284 Member
    Please pass me some waffle syrup....I'll pass some popcorn :glasses:

    Lol Kittie....I'm waiting for your "Bless her/his heart comments." Always priceless :)