What is the MEANEST email you ever sent....

sassylarita

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Platypusimus

Really?? A Sociopath?? Are you ill?? :huh:

She asked for mean emails and I gave her one.

If someone keeps their Facebook logged on in the Apple store and some kid updates their status to "I'm gay" or sends a few random messages, are they sociopaths? (maybe their boss is on their FL)

Honestly, I'm surprised by all the reactions to this as I thought it was hilarious, and if I sound like a sociopath to you, I also find you hilarious.

I guess I win the meanest email game! Annd.. I'm done talking about this.

I question the viability of your original post, et al. My guess is, you made it up.

However, I think the bigger issue here is all of the things that could have gone wrong with such a prank, and the idea that you consider the notion thereof, "funny." I'm all for a good joke on a friend, in which absolutely no damage occurs. However, the fable you outlined above simply establishes an act of random cruelty on a complete stranger. And, regardless of whether or not you actually did it... it makes you "giggle" for some reason.

Your notion falls into the same category of putting nails under a stranger's tire. It's simply not that funny, yet carries tremendous risk of something going severely wrong and putting an innocent person in serious peril.

As for your legal justification, you clearly made that up. You might want to go with the whole "I made it up to be funny on a forum" schtick as well, because it was technically a crime. Actually, multiple crimes on both a federal and state level.

But hey, it's not like any prosecutors that specialize in Internet crime frequent this site... right?

Happy Wednesday.

^^ he speaks the truth

hear hear!

sassylarita

My girlfriends and I were staying in a hotel with a computer in the lobby, a guy forgot to log out of his work email. We responded to a work related email, coming out of the closet and confessing our love to their (i think) boss. hehe

You are a low class jerk!

jenluvsushi

A little melodromatic I think? If someone sent you an email completely out of character it's only common sense to question it, and discover the prank. I think the possibility that damage was done is relatively nil.

"Intent" and "inability to effectuate" are specifically referenced in the law as immaterial. In lay terms that means, "I was just kidding" and "It was just a joke" are specifically excluded as affirmative defenses.

A more "melodramatic" analogy would be sexually assaulting someone, then claiming that the act was "a prank" at your defense trial.

Good luck with that.

Say for example, she looked up child porn using his information, then I think your analogy would have more merit. Though in that case a more extreme analogy may be required lol.

Well, you're right in the notion that your aforementioned example is "worse." The "prank" she described carries up to five (5) years in federal prison. The "prank" you described carries a minimum of twenty (20) years in federal prison, as that would additionally entail "distribution" of child pornography.

All hilarious by the way.



Typos.

All I know is that smart people are soooo hot :flowerforyou:

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stinkpurty

I sent an e-mail once to a guy whom I had just broken up with because he cheated on me. I was trying to be mature about it. He e-mailed me asking for the keys to his house back so he wouldn't have to change his locks (not that I was planning to go over). I replied back saying that was fine and asked for the stuff I had left at his house (I had a couple pairs of shoes including my tennis shoes, a few clothing items, etc.). He then replied that he had gotten drunk a couple nights before and burned all my stuff. That really set me off. I wasn't the one who cheated. Why be so cruel?

Anyway, a couple of days later, after cooling off, I replied back telling him that I felt sorry for any woman who would ever be involved with him because she would never be able to compete with the love of his life and that love was himself. I also informed him that if he wanted his keys he was welcome to go dumpster diving as I had thrown the keys in one of the many dumpsters scattered behind businesses around town.

mgobluetx12

My girlfriends and I were staying in a hotel with a computer in the lobby, a guy forgot to log out of his work email. We responded to a work related email, coming out of the closet and confessing our love to their (i think) boss. hehe

-Finds humor in potentially ruining someone's livelihood, yet you posted in another thread that bullying is a serious problem that needs resolved.

Amen!

EvgeniZyntx

But... what do I know. I'm just a random Internet dude.

Making some nice assumptions about jurisdiction.
Not defending the stupidity of "joker" but we have hotels and interwebs outside the US, too.

GorillaEsq

But... what do I know. I'm just a random Internet dude.

Making some nice assumptions about jurisdiction.
Not defending the stupidity of "joker" but we have hotels and interwebs outside the US, too.

True. Assuming it happened in the US. Though, I have been involved with cases recently in which "naughty things" occurred outside our borders, however the use of domestic-based servers and infrastructure was enough to establish jurisdiction and even venue.

jofjltncb6

But... what do I know. I'm just a random Internet dude.

Making some nice assumptions about jurisdiction.
Not defending the stupidity of "joker" but we have hotels and interwebs outside the US, too.

Lies. Everywhere outside the US is nothing but stick huts and deserts.

Duh.

BogQueen1

Seriously? I doubt a bunch of 18 year old girls sending an email from someones account damaged their professional relationship. A simple "I didn't send that email, I left my account open at the hotel" would fix that problem. So lighten up. Yes, it's funny, and I wish I could have seen the end result.

You do realize that he could EASILY have gotten fired just for leaving his e-mail logged in on a public terminal. Most companies consider this to be a serious confidentiality and security breach. What you did was not funny at all, and doesn't even really count as mean, it just counts as being a fairly crappy human being.

Tee hee......

RobynC79

There certainly seems to be a consensus here... I think what you did was disgraceful and not remotely funny, but let's also consider the extremely small-minded, casual bigotry associated with the idea that falsifying a 'coming-out' story should be hilariously humiliating.

There is no reason why coming out should be a matter of shame or humiliation (apart from the obvious thing here about it being to professional colleagues, not friends or family, and thus a socially-inappropriate admission irrespective), and the fact that you choose such an event to attempt to embarrass or shame someone you know nothing about speaks volumes about your character.

In short, your attitude towards your own appalling actions disgusts me.

misspastry

I don't send nastygrams via email. I prefer to say things to the person's face, as much as that sucks to do.

rlmadrid

In response to being told I have no self-esteem for parading around a stage being judged in a bikini and am a bad mother and role model for competing, I said this person was insecure. Apparently that did not sit well with said person..... Really, why does my exes current know or care that much about me and what I do anyway?

"insecure"? Girl, I'd have had a lot more to say to that b****.
You're a fantastic specimen of health and beauty, and I imagine you'd put the same level of commitment into being a mother. She probably just doesn't like how shexshy her current's ex is.

rlmadrid

But... what do I know. I'm just a random Internet dude.

Making some nice assumptions about jurisdiction.
Not defending the stupidity of "joker" but we have hotels and interwebs outside the US, too.

Lies. Everywhere outside the US is nothing but stick huts and deserts.

Duh.

Don't forget about igloos.

springseternal

If someone keeps their Facebook logged on in the Apple store and some kid updates their status to "I'm gay" or sends a few random messages, are they sociopaths? (maybe their boss is on their FL)

Honestly, I'm surprised by all the reactions to this as I thought it was hilarious, and if I sound like a sociopath to you, I also find you hilarious.

They are not sociopaths. They are extremely immature and bratty. And so are you.

lilmisfit

There certainly seems to be a consensus here... I think what you did was disgraceful and not remotely funny, but let's also consider the extremely small-minded, casual bigotry associated with the idea that falsifying a 'coming-out' story should be hilariously humiliating.

There is no reason why coming out should be a matter of shame or humiliation (apart from the obvious thing here about it being to professional colleagues, not friends or family, and thus a socially-inappropriate admission irrespective), and the fact that you choose such an event to attempt to embarrass or shame someone you know nothing about speaks volumes about your character.

In short, your attitude towards your own appalling actions disgusts me.

Agreed.

kimothy38

I was in hospital with my 2 week old baby after she had heart surgery (she's ok now) and my MIL sent an email blaming my use of a computer during pregnancy for the heart defect. WTF! You should never send emails in the heat of the moment! But I did. I really let her have it and she didn't say a thing. I don't regret sending the email and over the years I've had to say similar things again cause she doesn't know when to keep her mouth shut.

Laura_Suzie

The other day I sent a really mean message to my cousin on FB. He deserved it though. I don't want to get into specifics because I am still fuming over it and I don't want to re-upset myself. But let's just say I'm tired of putting up with his crap and his selfish behavior... he is now blocked from contacting me on FB and deleted from my contacts...

shellebelle87

My girlfriends and I were staying in a hotel with a computer in the lobby, a guy forgot to log out of his work email. We responded to a work related email, coming out of the closet and confessing our love to their (i think) boss. hehe

WOW thats messed up! Its one thing tell off someone you know but to jeopardize someones career, marriage, reputation just for fun??? That is low and childish. I would be ashamed if you were my kid!

Seriously? You really dont think that the other person would have thought the guy was hacked? I highly doubt they would have believed it, and if they did, so what? The guy can always say he got hacked so big effing deal. Calm down there love!

GorillaEsq

Seriously? You really dont think that the other person would have thought the guy was hacked? I highly doubt they would have believed it, and if they did, so what? The guy can always say he got hacked so big effing deal. Calm down there love!

I'm not sure where you're going with this.

Are you unaware that "hacking" someone's email is also a federal and state level crime? Or are you claiming that the gut-wrenching realization of being digitally violated is somehow "better?"

shellebelle87

Seriously? You really dont think that the other person would have thought the guy was hacked? I highly doubt they would have believed it, and if they did, so what? The guy can always say he got hacked so big effing deal. Calm down there love!

I'm not sure where you're going with this.

Are you unaware that "hacking" someone's email is also a federal and state level crime? Or are you claiming that the gut-wrenching realization of being digitally violated is somehow "better?"

I was going with the theory that the boss or whoever recieved the email, would think logically and be like "hmm, this is out of character for Joe, I wonder what's up with this", instead of the boss being all like "rawr you're fired you disgusting gay human being". Some people have cool bosses who love prank emails, other people have bosses with sticks up their *kitten*. Just saying that everyone needs to calm down and not jump down the girls throat for a harmless prank. I highly doubt the dude whose email it was felt "digitally violated". Alas, we will never know, so why not keep attacking the girl who did it. :noway:

As for the "hacking", can all of you say you have never hacked into an ex or current partners emails? Phone? Anything like that?

Edited for spelling.

GorillaEsq

As for the "hacking", can all of you say you have never hacked into an ex or current partners emails? Phone? Anything like that?

Yes. Without question, hesitation nor pause. As a rule, I don't commit felonies.

gauchogirl

I'm too old to have any mean emails. The meanest note I sent was actually a note from my friend where I corrected her grammar in red pen then sent it back to her. And I had misspellings in my corrections. We remained friends, but I don't know how. She was a way better person than me apparently.

shellebelle87

As for the "hacking", can all of you say you have never hacked into an ex or current partners emails? Phone? Anything like that?

Yes. Without question, hesitation nor pause. As a rule, I don't commit felonies.

Well. You are a model citizen and I guess I should aspire to be more like you. My apologies.

Question: Is it still a felony if you have the password? And they know you have the password?

Edited to add: I wasnt just referring to you with the hacking into a partners emails btw, I meant all the people on here who were having a go at that lady.

GorillaEsq

Well. You are a model citizen and I guess I should aspire to be more like you. My apologies.

Not really. I just learned in law school that committing felonies typically ends badly.

Question: Is it still a felony if you have the password? And they know you have the password?

Having the password is fundamentally immaterial. If you do not have explicit permission to access a computer-based account, along with specific data through course, accessing that account is likely a felonious act.

Edited to add: I wasnt just referring to you with the hacking into a partners emails btw, I meant all the people on here who were having a go at that lady.

I know. I also know that your heart was in the right place.

yourenotmine

My girlfriends and I were staying in a hotel with a computer in the lobby, a guy forgot to log out of his work email. We responded to a work related email, coming out of the closet and confessing our love to their (i think) boss. hehe

I'm sorry, but how is ruining a total stranger's career funny?

Or maybe I helped them find love in each other? One will never know!

I would be careful about posting such things on a public forum, because what you did is a violation of federal wiretap law and a felony.

It also makes her sound like a sociopath (not saying she is).

Really?? A Sociopath?? Are you ill?? :huh:

She asked for mean emails and I gave her one.

If someone keeps their Facebook logged on in the Apple store and some kid updates their status to "I'm gay" or sends a few random messages, are they sociopaths? (maybe their boss is on their FL)

Honestly, I'm surprised by all the reactions to this as I thought it was hilarious, and if I sound like a sociopath to you, I also find you hilarious.

I guess I win the meanest email game! Annd.. I'm done talking about this.

Um... I still don't get why being gay (or not) is funny...

Molly_Maguire

Really?? A Sociopath?? Are you ill?? :huh:

She asked for mean emails and I gave her one.

If someone keeps their Facebook logged on in the Apple store and some kid updates their status to "I'm gay" or sends a few random messages, are they sociopaths? (maybe their boss is on their FL)

Honestly, I'm surprised by all the reactions to this as I thought it was hilarious, and if I sound like a sociopath to you, I also find you hilarious.

I guess I win the meanest email game! Annd.. I'm done talking about this.

I question the viability of your original post, et al. My guess is, you made it up.

However, I think the bigger issue here is all of the things that could have gone wrong with such a prank, and the idea that you consider the notion thereof, "funny." I'm all for a good joke on a friend, in which absolutely no damage occurs. However, the fable you outlined above simply establishes an act of random cruelty on a complete stranger. And, regardless of whether or not you actually did it... it makes you "giggle" for some reason.

Your notion falls into the same category of putting nails under a stranger's tire. It's simply not that funny, yet carries tremendous risk of something going severely wrong and putting an innocent person in serious peril.

As for your legal justification, you clearly made that up. You might want to go with the whole "I made it up to be funny on a forum" schtick as well, because it was technically a crime. Actually, multiple crimes on both a federal and state level.

But hey, it's not like any prosecutors that specialize in Internet crime frequent this site... right?

Happy Wednesday.

A little melodromatic I think? If someone sent you an email completely out of character it's only common sense to question it, and discover the prank. I think the possibility that damage was done is relatively nil.

Say for example, she looked up child porn using his information, then I think your analogy would have more merit. Though in that case a more extreme analogy may be required lol.

^ This. Was it immature? A little. Did it probably do any lasting damage to the guy? Very unlikely. The thread is labeled "Meanest email ever sent". So WTF is everyone attacking HER for this email, when everyone else is coming clean about saying horrible things to their spouses, exes, and even children?

How is she soooooooo much worse than the rest of you sanctimonious b*stards? Nobody here has ever done anything a little off-color when they were 18? Hmm?

Take a Xanax and STFU.

GorillaEsq

^ This. Was it immature? A little. Did it probably do any lasting damage to the guy? Very unlikely. The thread is labeled "Meanest email ever sent". So WTF is everyone attacking HER for this email, when everyone else is coming clean about saying horrible things to their spouses, exes, and even children?

How is she soooooooo much worse than the rest of you sanctimonious b*stards? Nobody here has ever done anything a little off-color when they were 18? Hmm?

Take a Xanax and STFU.

Rawr.

Seriously though, it's a felony. And a civil attorney would financially destroy her for the rest of her life. True story.

RobynC79

^ This. Was it immature? A little. Did it probably do any lasting damage to the guy? Very unlikely. The thread is labeled "Meanest email ever sent". So WTF is everyone attacking HER for this email, when everyone else is coming clean about saying horrible things to their spouses, exes, and even children?

How is she soooooooo much worse than the rest of you sanctimonious b*stards? Nobody here has ever done anything a little off-color when they were 18? Hmm?

Take a Xanax and STFU.

I think the reason she is RIGHTLY getting hell for it is that she *still* seems to think it is 1. funny, and 2. harmless. If she was stupid when she was 18, she doesn't seem have to grown much since then. It's not funny, not harmless and not something of which to be proud. Continuing to claim it is, in fact, all three of those, makes her look like a poor excuse for a grown human.

We're not sanctimonious, we're reasonable adults who are disgusted by her inability to conceive that she behaved disgracefully. But hey, obviously you think it's funny too, so I guess you two are good company.