Would you use a 'unfit' looking personal trainer?
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Would you train with an absolutely jacked trainer who couldn't have achieved their gains without steroids?
Depends if he was decent eye candy or not. :laugh:
Mental Note - Become eye candy0 -
Don't forget that a lot of PT people are former fatties or people still losing it.... they could be on the job training. Don't be so harsh..
A lot of pt's are former fatties? Why are you of that opinion then?
I don't know about the above poster's opinion, but from my personal experience (I worked as a PT for four years in Bally's then NYSC) there were MANY of the fitness professionals who were "former fatties" as you call them. As it turns out, the majority of them were some of the best in their field because they understood the struggle and judgment. I've also seen the "beefcake" trainers put their clients in compromising and injurious positions. That being said, I do agree to a certain degree that you should lead by example in a field such as this one. Because of what I've seen, I'd give the overweight trainer the benefit of the doubt at least once, but admittedly, I'd probably be more skeptical until they proved their knowledge.0 -
Don't forget that a lot of PT people are former fatties or people still losing it.... they could be on the job training. Don't be so harsh..
A lot of pt's are former fatties? Why are you of that opinion then?
I don't know about the above poster's opinion, but from my personal experience (I worked as a PT for four years in Bally's then NYSC) there were MANY of the fitness professionals who were "former fatties" as you call them. As it turns out, the majority of them were some of the best in their field because they understood the struggle and judgment. I've also seen the "beefcake" trainers put their clients in compromising and injurious positions. That being said, I do agree to a certain degree that you should lead by example in a field such as this one. Because of what I've seen, I'd give the overweight trainer the benefit of the doubt at least once, but admittedly, I'd probably be more skeptical until they proved their knowledge.
No, I didn't call them 'former fatties' actually. I was quoting the poster who used that phrase in their post if you read what I was responding to.0 -
no. I like seeing it can be done and having that to work toward. I have guidance coaches for my 12-wk strength training program thru the YMCA (free program) but I don't look up to them because they aren't fit. One of them who lost 40 lbs in a year told me that my goal of over 100 lbs will probably take 3-5 years. Um no it won't but thanks. On the other hand, I take classes from several fit instructors who absolutely amaze me with what they can do and I wanna get that fit. Three of them in particular teach so many high level classes a week I just don't know how they do it. One of them has kinda taken me under her wing and she's constantly encouraging me to step things up. I don't see a spot of fat on her whole body. I can't wait till I'm not the fattest girl in all her classes.0
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You can't tell someone's fitness level by looking at them. If they are overweight or not- maybe. I am still in the "overweight" category by BMI and have a bit of extra fat on my body but I can run 15km nonstop and lift heavy weights.0
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I was just pondering the other day, whilst in the gym. We have several PT's at my gym, none of which, if i'm honest look like they practice what they preach so to speak. So would you use a unfit looking personal trainer? I know my view on it, just interested in other peoples ;-)
well from your pic you can be my personal trainer any day0 -
I HIRED A TRAINER THAT I FELT WAS "UNFIT"..I DID EVERYTHING THEY ASKED, I TRAINED FOR WEIGHT LOSS, DID IT FOR 8 LONG WEEKS 3-4 PER WEEK...MY RESULTS...WELL, I GAINED 1 .8 LBS....SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, HELL NO!0
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Personally I would go for his credentials and experience rather than his appearance. Looks can be deceiving & sometimes its all about genetics. Some gyms hire these people as part of their marketing tactic but in reality not all of them are qualified enough. I have seen trainers who looks like they couldn't walk for 10 minutes actually can run faster than a bullet. In the same way, I've seen some 'fit' trainers who are actually more out of shape than their clients.0
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I HIRED A TRAINER THAT I FELT WAS "UNFIT"..I DID EVERYTHING THEY ASKED, I TRAINED FOR WEIGHT LOSS, DID IT FOR 8 LONG WEEKS 3-4 PER WEEK...MY RESULTS...WELL, I GAINED 1 .8 LBS....SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, HELL NO!
Also have you taken your measurements? Remember scales lie.
EDIT: Its not good to point a finger at other people for your failures. Remember that whenever you point one finger to others, the other three fingers are pointing at you. That is your body & you have the sole responsibility for it. Trainers are simply there to help you as far as training is concerned.0 -
Of course you can.. I had a volleyball coach and a basketball coach that was actually obese but that was because he had a hard work out in college that required him to eat a lot, then he left college stopped working out but he still ate. Even though he was obese he new more about fitness and coaching than anyone I knew, a brilliant coach to say the least.
You've got to try people out, its not about the appearance. People are obese for various reasons and just because they're obese doesn't mean they don't have knowledge. Judge them based on their abilities.0 -
Just to flip this, the trainer I had in mind isn't actually overweight. She's very underweight. Very low body fat, very little muscle. If I'm honest she looks very unhealthy. She certainly doesn't look at the peak of physical fitness.
I have one of those at our gym and tell you what...
Never told anyone, but I kinda have a crush on her... Those bigger PTs aren't nearly as nice IMO... but then again I have issues of my own to deal with and she just looks again IMO... sexy as anything, might be underweight maybe, but she looks more like a super model than a PT tbh....0 -
I'm a Powerplate personal trainer...I have to look good to advertise the training and the fact they get my knowledge and experience for the duration of their session.
If I was heavy I'd be a mockery of the fitness game.
I have several of my clients aiming for how I look which is a compliment.
And they get worked HARD.0 -
i am using a not prefectly fit personal trainer but very happy in the last 3 weeks and the only thing i have followed is the diet 75%... I just took my before and after pics after 3 weeks and totally amazed0
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I'm a Powerplate personal trainer...I have to look good to advertise the training and the fact they get my knowledge and experience for the duration of their session.
If I was heavy I'd be a mockery of the fitness game.
I have several of my clients aiming for how I look which is a compliment.
And they get worked HARD.
I am also a PT(NASM). You do realize a lot of personal trainers, despite how they look get mocked for the ridiculous theories, and claims they make by unapproved science?
Such as eat 6 meals a day, take protein before/after a workout to build muscle mass etc..
I don't make ridiculous theories..I just work hard and give advice the best to my ability.
I only ever tell my clients what works for me..it's up to them if they decide to follow my advice or to read and undertake stuff they read on the Internet.0 -
Depends on how much knowledge they had. I still listen to my doctor even if he smokes about the dangers of smoking.
Exactly. You don't have to practice what you preach to know what you are talking about. I met a trainer that didn't "appear" to be in good shape, and was working on getting in better shape. He started working out with a trainer when he was obese and loved working out so much that it changed his life and lifestyle. He was so happy to have had the personal trainer that he decided he wanted to be one and help other people change their lives as his had been changed.
I certainly would use an unfit looking trainer...if they knew their stuff....and I know enough to know if they are full of it.
Another thing to consider is, maybe they have a sports injury and this is the best way they can still be around fitness and sports. Many people don't want to wake up and do a job every day they hate, it simply could be their passion.0 -
My step class instructor is not in shape but she sure can teach an amazing step class! She is my fave instructor!0
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I HIRED A TRAINER THAT I FELT WAS "UNFIT"..I DID EVERYTHING THEY ASKED, I TRAINED FOR WEIGHT LOSS, DID IT FOR 8 LONG WEEKS 3-4 PER WEEK...MY RESULTS...WELL, I GAINED 1 .8 LBS....SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, HELL NO!
Where are your body measurements to back up these claims? I would be willing to bet you lost inches unless you just totally *kitten* the bed on your diet & over consumed.0 -
Out of shape trainers can know their stuff. It doesn't take fitness to read a book and learn about excercise and nutrition. So I wouldn't say that they aren't capable of doing the job.
That being said, I would only want to work with someone who was in shape and had clearly spent time under the bar. You can read 1000 books, but unless you've actually spent time doing the activity, you have no business teaching others.0 -
i would let arnold shwarzennegger train me and he has fat everywhere these days0
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i would let arnold shwarzennegger train me and he has fat everywhere these days
he also has a good amount of muscle mass still. have you seen him recently??0 -
i would let arnold shwarzennegger train me and he has fat everywhere these days
he also has a good amount of muscle mass still. have you seen him recently??
I've seen him in interviews, thats about it. Obviously, he knows his stuff... I mean he is ARNOLD!0 -
I don't use pt's, but I have trained with a close quarter fighting instructor that was overweight and not impressive looking. This guy was awesome, would not judge on body types.0
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HOW do you people think you can judge fitness by appearance exactly?
They are 2 very separate things..
Someone can be fat and fit or someone can be thin and unfit...
eg I still weigh 173 but I can run 10kms non stop, dance for hours nonstop, and lift heavy weights. A friend of mine on the other hand weighs 110 and gets puffed walking up the stairs.0 -
HOW do you people think you can judge fitness by appearance exactly?
They are 2 very separate things..
Someone can be fat and fit or someone can be thin and unfit...
eg I still weigh 173 but I can run 10kms non stop, dance for hours nonstop, and lift heavy weights. A friend of mine on the other hand weighs 110 and gets puffed walking up the stairs.
yes but I'm not gonna take lifting advice from a kid who weights 140 and squats 225................
I'm not saying you should walk into a gym, say "this guy looks like crap" and walk back out. Meet with the trainer, and do a session with them. But if they aren't capable of achieving the results youre looking for, what makes you think they can help you achieve them?0 -
HOW do you people think you can judge fitness by appearance exactly?
They are 2 very separate things..
Someone can be fat and fit or someone can be thin and unfit...
eg I still weigh 173 but I can run 10kms non stop, dance for hours nonstop, and lift heavy weights. A friend of mine on the other hand weighs 110 and gets puffed walking up the stairs.
yes but I'm not gonna take lifting advice from a kid who weights 140 and squats 225................
I'm not saying you should walk into a gym, say "this guy looks like crap" and walk back out. Meet with the trainer, and do a session with them. But if they aren't capable of achieving the results youre looking for, what makes you think they can help you achieve them?
Maybe. Just maybe. They have the knowledge to get you where you want to be.
I remember an old saying; "Those who can't do... teach."0 -
being a personal trainer i think it is important to practice what you preach for example you wouldnt get a tattoo done by a person who has no tattoos
no hate towards people having personal training as a career but you are meant to inspire others and by not looking fit (completely different to being fit) i think its not very good promotion0 -
Why not? A coach doesn't have to walk the walk in the slightest. Simply get the best out of you. Usain Bolt and Yohan Blake's coach won't run as fast as they do, but he does a pretty good job. The same applies to coaches the world over.
I was leaning toward yes and this solidified it for me =D0 -
I was just pondering the other day, whilst in the gym. We have several PT's at my gym, none of which, if i'm honest look like they practice what they preach so to speak. So would you use a unfit looking personal trainer? I know my view on it, just interested in other peoples ;-)
I have worked with two trainers at my gym (free sessions). Both were in great shape personally, but they were clueless. I wouldn't pay either of them since I know more than they did, put together.0 -
No, for the same reason I won't go to hairstylist who had bad hair. I would have a hard time listening to someone who doesn't follow their own advice.
This exactly0 -
Why not? A coach doesn't have to walk the walk in the slightest. Simply get the best out of you. Usain Bolt and Yohan Blake's coach won't run as fast as they do, but he does a pretty good job. The same applies to coaches the world over.
I was leaning toward yes and this solidified it for me =D
Yes! Marv Levy never played football in his life, but he coacked the Bills to four Super Bowls in a row (we won't talk about the rest of that story ... lol).0
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