MEDICINE HAS CALORIES?!
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I know that must be really frustrating... it definitely sounds like you've been really working very hard to eat your very low carb diet, and I'm sure it felt like a punch straight to the gut when you read that caloric info! It sounds like those calorie numbers were probably a little higher than reality, but yes it does sound like it was probably enough sugar to keep you out of ketosis.
So, right now you can feel angry, defeated, etc, and I won't blame you for that... but I'd say to only allow yourself that pity party for a short little bit. Then pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and congratulate yourself for having such strong willpower even while sick! You've avoided all those sweets that you so dearly love! And sure, this cough syrup thing is a setback, but hey... just chalk it up to a "lesson learned," and figure out where to go from here.
From what I can see, you have a bunch of options. You could, for example:
- decide that you're sick and you can put the concept of ketosis on hold while you take this cough syrup
- decide you're going to tough it out without the cough syrup and go back to all the good healthy choices you were making to get back to ketosis
- try to find sugar-free medicine alternatives to take. there are some out there :-)
In any case, try not to let this derail you. Yes, it sucks, but it's not the end of the world, and you have a bunch of different (good) directions you can go from here on out!
Good luck and keep up the good work! :-)
I come off extremely pissy and arrogant throughout this thread, and I apologize for that. You couldn't have described what is going through my head better, and I truly appreciate this post. It wasn't sarcastic or demeaning in any way, shape, or form. Thank you for that.
Your welcome - I understand the feelings you're expressing... been there before! Not the exact situation, but the feelings related to weight loss in general. They'll pass though, just keep heading the way you want to go! Or to quote David Thoreau (I think?) "Go confidently in the direction of your dreams; live the life you've imagined!" And remember to enjoy yourself on the journey, not waiting to be happy until you reach your goals :-)0 -
Seriously, if you care so much about ketosis that you're whining about your medicine having calories, you need help we can't give you.0
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I appreciate all the responses, I can't thank you all enough for responding.
I struggled with an ED when I was 16 and lost weight that way, I've always struggled with weight for the majority of my life.
Besides a career and personal goals, losing weight and looking good enough to wear a bikini to a beach and be proud, and not being afraid of being in a picture because I'll "look fat", are some of the absolute most important things to me. I'm very very OCD about cleanliness, organization, my appearance, and my weight.
I don't ever see myself being on the cover of a magazine or being famous, but for my own personal self, being within the "healthy" range of the BMI scale and not having my thighs rub together (even if slightly) or having a little bit of a pooch in my stomach are some of the most important things to me. I'm obsessed with it, as sad and vain as that sounds. If I could pick billions of dollars over having a toned, tight, lean body, I would pick the perfect body. If someone told me I would have to give up having children to have this body or achieve it, I wouldn't have children.
The car I've spent 2 years restoring from the ground up? As hard as it would be, I would sacrifice that, and that is the most prized thing to me, to have a perfect body. If I could just lose these last 20 pounds I would finally accept myself and be able to move forward in my life.
I realize reading that how terribly vain and strange it sounds, and as much as I wish I could help it, I can't.
If I was stuck this way forever a part of me would forever be feeling like I am missing out on something and I am lacking something in my life.0 -
hi. your beautiful. stop searching for keiosis or whatever. be happy
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hi. your beautiful. stop searching for keiosis or whatever. be happy
You're too too kind. I wish it were that easy
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You really shouldn't be worrying about getting your body into ketosis or losing weight when you have the flu. Getting healthy is way more important than breaking a weight loss plateau.
Based on what you wrote below about your struggle with ED and how losing 20 lbs would make you finally accept yourself and move forward, I strongly suggest seeing a doctor or therapist about your ED issues.
You are only 20 years old, there is so much more to you and to make you happy in life than not having your thighs rub slightly together at this moment in time.0 -
Try the tablets instead of the cough syrup ... zero calories. Get well soon!
http://www.foodfacts.com/NutritionFacts/Cold-Medicine/Mucinex-DM-Expectorant-Cough-Suppressant-Tablets-40-Count/740750 -
I strongly suggest seeing a doctor or therapist about your ED issues.
You are only 20 years old, there is so much more to you and to make you happy in life than not having your thighs rub slightly together at this moment in time.
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Talk to your pharmacist and ask if there is sugar in certain things because you saw somewhere that it does.
He'll say yes or no.
if he says yes,
"do you know which stuff has the lowest amount of sugar"
*Do not lie and say you have diabetes or any of that stuff. He'll know you're lying and not take you seriously.
There are a few people you should know in your community
your pharmacist
Your butcher
Your seafood manager
People who work in produce. At least nod and say hello/have a good afternoon, anything to acknowledge their existence.
It will make a huge difference when you need something from them or advice.0 -
you say you will be happy with your 20 # weight loss...but will you? really?? I doubt it very much. I sincerely hope you can find the help you so clearly need, especially with an ED history0
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It's got sugar and usually 10% alcohol by volume. So yet, it's got calories :-)0
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BTW, if you upped your calories by 300 and think this caused you to gain six pounds you are possibly incorrect.
To gain 6 lbs you need 3500 per pound or 21000 cals. Based on a 300 cal increase this is 70 days of gain if you had been on "upper edge" maintenance before. If you gained 6 lbs in less time then it was water retention or undigested food and not the calorie increase,
Rethink your long-term goals and how you want to get there, "living in ketosis" is not a good idea.0 -
Even a berocca boost tablet is 5 calories! lol0
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You know, there is a certain amount of doubt over how effective cough medicines are anyway. They certainly won't cure the flu. It does kind of sound like you have bigger issues than not being in ketosis though.0
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From your picture it doesn't look like you need to lose weight at all... I'm with the people that say go talk to your doctor. It sounds like your self esteem is a bigger issue than your weight.0
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http://www.fatsecret.com/Diary.aspx?pa=fjrd&rid=2891899
According to this, the calories are nowhere near the 210 that's in the database. Perhaps this is a reminder not to trust the info in the databse - if it looks wrong, then double check it elsewhere.0 -
That's per teaspoon. A 2.3 oz dose is 14 teaspoons or... 210 cals.0
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The calculation is wrong. Medications with syrup in them are usually about 15 cal per tsp. The 210 must be for the whole bottle. If you are worried about it, try the tablets. Mucinex for cough and antihistamine for the other symptoms.0
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Ah, at least that explains where the 210 comes from, thanks!
14 teaspoons is a dose????? Wow! If you imagine each of those is basically a spoon of sugar......0 -
Be grateful you have been on a low carb diet! Imagine how many carbs you would have eaten if you had not! Accentuate the positive!0
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Why the heck do you want to get into ketosis! !! ? ??0
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so first off as has been mentioned, from your photo you're very pretty and im sure people that know everyone around you thinks the same!
Depending on what your illness is? e.g. cold flu chest infection, your core temp is much higher and your body uses much more calories than normal anyway fighting the illness! your resting calorie count will be between 15-35% higher than if you wernt ill (sorry i cant remember where i read that
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Also in regards to shifting the final few lbs, you havent detailed the exercise you do? have you though increasing or changing what you do? 0 -
I didn't know that medicine has calories. I've had the flu for 2 weeks and have been living off cold meds. Hopefully, the alkaseltzer cold & flu tabs don't have as much sugar in them!!
I hope you feel better soon. :flowerforyou:0 -
The problem is I increased calories from 1200 to 1500 and gained 6 pounds. Dropped again to 1200 calories and lost and then stayed the same. I went and dipped down into 500-900 calorie days a few times a week to see, and I would lose weight, but decided to do it the healthy way and again am gaining on a calorie surplus. I have done a high protein diet before and lost 25 pounds, so FOR ME, that is what works. Being stuck at the same weight for 4 months is a really really depressing situation to be in, despite the different things you've been trying.
You should NOT be trying to place yourself into ketosis when you are ill. The stress will prolong your illness and will probably trigger starvation mode more than anything else. A doctor reading this would be appalled.0 -
focus on getting well first. then worry about 80 calories of sugar.
health first.0 -
That is why ketosis based diets sucks. BRB prolonging my sickness cause I don't want to take medicine that has carbs in it.I'm just pissed off because I'm been trying to get my body into ketosis and I've been essentially no carbs for NO reason then, if this mucinex has 210 cals worth of sugar. I honestly couldn't care less if I have the flu, I've been stuck at this weight for 4 months and am tired of it, I want to lose this weight so badly. If that means suffering until its over and sticking with ketosis then that's what I'm going to have to do. There should be a label for this and the public should be made aware about this type of thing.
Yes, i did that stupid **** in the past.0 -
my father is diabetic and he has to buy his meds made specifically without the sugars in it. you could ask a pharmacist what they recomend. I was shocked to find out my birth control contained sugar! :noway:0
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Guys can we not turn this into a "why low carb is bad for you" debate? She's giving low-carbing a shot to get outta a plateau - it'll work or it won't - end of story. This is coming from somebody who eats 250-300 carbs a day but had phenomenal results doing a high-fat, low-carb diet.
She wanted to know how much sugar/alcohol is in her Mucinex. I went to the website and couldn't find anything. 210 calories would be 52g of sugar (since I doubt there is any fat/protein in Mucinex). That is about as much as a can of coke - I find that to be very debatable.
Lastly, you can low carb and not be sick if you eat healthy food.
So how about that debate last night?!0 -
If the only thing you wanted to know about was the calories in cough syrup then I think you found it.
On a side note it does not look like you have that much to lose. I know sometimes people weigh more than they look...blah blah blah. But you look great I think you need to focus more on exercise than on diet for what you are looking for. You want to get rid of body fat and build muscle. Good luck to you. I hope you have some good friends to talk to because you seem to have some body self esteem issues, you need to think about being healthy and feeling great. Get rid of the scale for awhile. Good luck.0 -
Guys can we not turn this into a "why low carb is bad for you" debate? She's giving low-carbing a shot to get outta a plateau - it'll work or it won't - end of story. This is coming from somebody who eats 250-300 carbs a day but had phenomenal results doing a high-fat, low-carb diet.
She wanted to know how much sugar/alcohol is in her Mucinex. I went to the website and couldn't find anything. 210 calories would be 52g of sugar (since I doubt there is any fat/protein in Mucinex). That is about as much as a can of coke - I find that to be very debatable.
Lastly, you can low carb and not be sick if you eat healthy food.
So how about that debate last night?!
Thank you.
I do have self esteem issues, I won't deny that. I weighed myself and lost 2 pounds doing this diet so far. Who knows if it would have been more had I not consumed the syrup, but we will see. I don't want to be keto forever, it's not a forever thing.. I would like to simply kickstart back into losing weight and basically being a leaner and smaller version of myself.. The female version of Fields4life without the bulky manness
Your body is the only thing you get in this world. It's the only thing you are given and will always have with you. That's like someone giving you a brand new mercedes benz and you graffiting it, putting the cheapest grade fuel in it, not changing the oil, and essentially being a very irresponsible vehicle owner.
Your body is your one vehicle. You get ONE shot at life. So why is striving to have your body be the best and healthiest and sleekist it can possibly be such a bad thing? If you had a choice of driving around a rust bucket piece of **** that wasn't reliable and looked horrible, verses a brand new luxary vehicle that was beautiful and always reliable, which would you choose?
That's why this is so important to me. I don't have any other way to describe it. And this analogy is coming from a girl who rebuilt an old BMW, so I know cars and this is the best I could relate it to.0
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