Great clip about how sugar is toxic.

ElizaRoche · October 2012

im eating chocolate cake damn it... you are killing the fun

MacInCali · October 2012

Ahhhh, see? Therein lies the difference between us ... I partake in those yummy items as well AND I enjoy my chocolate ... and if I'm feeling particularly decadent, I'll have them all in the same day. Limitations are so ... limiting. *shudders*

hikeout470 · October 2012

It is not limiting for those of us not addicted to sweets!

KellyJannine · October 2012

I just made no bake cookies for tomorrow.... i refuse to watch the video right now LOL!! I added protien powder though... does that counteract the sugar?

MacInCali · October 2012

Addicted? No one said anything about that hun. You really should get to know a person before you accuse them of being an addict. Shame on you ...

EvgeniZyntx · October 2012

Yes, sugar is toxic.

It is toxic in the following ways - as a biologist/biomed engineer I learned to kill cell cultures, kill certain bacteria at high sugar concentrations and as any good cook will tell you sugar is a preserving agent that keeps mold at bay. Low sugar preserves need to be kept refrigerated because of this while "normal" old-fashioned preserves keep longer. It's the sugar.

It is likely toxic in the way some people consume it, that is the point of that research and that article.

HOWEVER, no one can survive without sugars. If you remove all sugars from your diet you will die. Basically, your brain runs on glucose so one needs carbohydrates of one form or another.

The American (and other nation) health crisis is partially due to the over consumption and dependence of sugar. But sugars (in all their forms) at normal quantities is not toxic. This is usually true of a lot of things we consume - too much water will kill, to much oxygen will kill, to much salt will kill, to much protein will kill. And prior to too much, each of these will have a toxic effect.

The issue is that people watch these shows and make huge mental short-cuts. Sugar is a health care/health policy issue but it does not mean it should be cut to zero in a healthy diet. Every single replacement product is also toxic at certain dosages.

in the video you have a researcher stating "there is no foodstuff on the planet that has fructose on the planet that is poisonous - it is all good". This is actually slightly false - anyone worth their salt in the history of food know that the Romans (and a few modern idiots) made defertum basically boiled grapes in lead containers - resulting in a fructose and lead acetate mixture. But the idea is correct - sweet tastes signal safew food and we have receptors that appreciate and provide pleasure from eating sweet. They can go wrong. So for some people it DOES make sense to cut sugar from their diet.

But for those that are healthy, that do not have particular weight or binging or other health issues - sugar is not a poison, a toxin or something "bad", nor is fat, nor alcohol.

The study discussed excess HFCS not normal eating. If you are eating 25% of your calories direclty with HFCS then, yes, its a bad idea - same is true of alcohol. These are the same style studies that showed fat to be "bad". There is a need for balance. In this sense, eating less processed food is a relatively easy way to reduce extra added sugar, but if you eat like a normal person should - lots of home cooked food, fruits, etc. sugar is not a toxin. Nothing, NOTHING, in that study or in that video suggests that balanced consumption of sugar is bad.

No, sugar is not toxic.

edit: the important thing is the big picture...

darrensurrey · October 2012

So is the clip nonsense?

714rah714 · October 2012

What about fake sugar?

BrianSharpe · October 2012

I love it when the obvious becomes a "revelation"; of course you can link sugar in it's various forms to all sorts of diseases because we consume so much of it. Caloric surplus leads to overweight & obesity which in turn leads to a range of diseases........I'm amazed nobody figured this out sooner.:yawn:

itsmedicinalbacon · October 2012

great info-thanks!

dinosnopro · October 2012

INB4 ED

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jetscreaminagain · October 2012

Exactly. This thread after the craziness of the fake butter thread and OPs rude people thread is leaving the distinct impression of troll.

Zyntx said all that needed to be said. If this goes further with OPs instigating then it'll be clear what her motives are.

sapphireswi · October 2012

I have been off granulated sugar for more than a week now. . . and hardly miss it :flowerforyou:
I have substituted my cookies and ice cream with berries and fruits
I chill them in the fridge and they are delicious

tnx for the article
The MNC's are lacing all our foods with way too much sugar and salt :devil: :devil:
and they can get quite addictive:noway:

Sarauk2sf · October 2012

Logical fallacy.

Because someone enjoys something and sees absolutely no reason to stop eating it, then why are they an addict? Its like me saying you are an alcohol because of that wine you say you enjoy!

Acg67 · October 2012

Cheese and fine wine both contain sugars, oh noes!

And I'd quit the wine drinking as it's linked to cirrhosis and other bad things

Chief_Rocka · October 2012

Toxic: acting as or having the effect of a poison; poisonous: a toxic drug.

The fact that something has negative health affects if over consumed doesn't make it "toxic." If that's your standard, almost any food can be labeled as "toxic."

bcattoes · October 2012

Wow, you eat chocolate so you must be really cool!

EvgeniZyntx · October 2012

No, there is no causality. She's really cool AND she eats chocolate.

bcattoes · October 2012

How do you know there is no causality?

pullipgirl · October 2012

only if you put it on fake food

hikeout470 · October 2012

My my, the bullies have been back to feast. Thanks for the nice post comments and observations. Those to you who who are guilty guilty guilty know who you are and your buttons are so easy to find.

Acg67 · October 2012

Disagreement/rebuttals = bullying, only in your fantasy world

AllTehBeers · October 2012

Is that as bad as Fake Butter?

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EvgeniZyntx · October 2012

Because I know a lot of non cool chocolate eaters.

bcattoes · October 2012

What does that have to do with her?

mmapags · October 2012

Ahhh, so anyone that disagrees with you and your logic is a bully? Didn't realize you were infallible. BTW, doesn't that wine your like contain the same chemical you were demonizing in the Fake Butter thread? Diactyl was it?

ubermensch13 · October 2012

I'm hoping this is sarcasm...

Sarauk2sf · October 2012

Does anyone else find this ironic?

caribougal · October 2012

There have been studies associating excess sugar with disease since the 70's, often sponsored by the Sugar Association, whose purpose it is to make sure to dissuade the public from associating sugar with disease. Because it's extremely difficult to pinpoint the EXACT AMOUNT of sugar consumption to trigger things like insulin resistance, it's hard to scientifically say that sugar is toxic and not have that statement debated. Anti-sugar evangelists like Gary Taubes and Robert Lustig are criticized because they present their opinions on sugar as fact, when really the data merely strongly suggests that they are right, but is never quite conclusive enough to prove it beyond debate. And the Sugar Association fights hard to keep it that way.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/04/case-against-sugar-lobbyists/36654/

Obviously, if you limit or moderate your sugar consumption (or salt, or soy, or calories, or mercury or tobacco or any other toxin), you will likely not experience negative health effects from sugar (shout out to the "eat everything in moderation and nothing will ever hurt you and you can never say any food is unhealthy" sexy ab boyz). However, moderating sugar is very hard to do for anyone who eats packaged foods or eats from restaurants. Check your MFP sugar log... does it go over 40g/day? Then you're consuming too much sugar, according to the USDA.

From USDA fact book profiling consumption:

In 2000, each American consumed an average 152 pounds of caloric sweeteners, 3 pounds below 1999’s record average 155 pounds. That amounted to more than two-fifths of a pound—or 52 teaspoonfuls—of added sugars per person per day in 2000. Of that 52 teaspoons, ERS estimates that Americans wasted or otherwise lost 20 teaspoons, resulting in an average intake of about 32 teaspoons of added sugars per person per day. USDA recommends that the average person on a 2,000-calorie daily diet include no more than 40 grams of added sugars. That’s about 10 teaspoons, or the amount of sugar in a 12-ounce soft drink. Sugar— including sucrose, corn sweeteners, honey, maple syrup, and molasses—is ubiquitous and often hidden. In a sense, sugar is the number one food additive. It turns up in some unlikely places, such as pizza, bread, hot dogs, boxed mixed rice, soup, crackers, spaghetti sauce, lunch meat, canned vegetables, fruit drinks, flavored yogurt, ketchup, salad dressing, mayonnaise, and some peanut butter.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CDYQjBAwAw&url=http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf&ei=7HGAUKzkIqzFiwLtk4DwBw&usg=AFQjCNFBcXq4l5gn-vfY0ooT_Mormu0DqQ

Morale of the story: Most people consume too much added sugar, even if they may believe they are only consuming moderate amounts. The best way to moderate your sugar intake is to avoid added sugars, and get your sugar from whole fruit and veggies.

Great clip about how sugar is toxic.

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