Nurse Asked to Buy My Vicodin
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Report her. Of course she would probably say she was trying to bust you for selling prescription drugs.0
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She needs to lose her job. Unused pills are usually taken to the pharmacists to be destroyed. Do you want a nurse high on pills taking care of you or your children? NO!!! It is not too late to report her.0
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I think I would have assumed she was joking with me and laughed it off.
Then watched her for signs of impairment.
I've had more than one non-addict joke with me about buying my leftover pain killers (like when I had broken ribs and didn't like the Percocet)0 -
Report her.
How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? Mt. 7:4
Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her. Jn. 8:70 -
hold on.... wait a minute yall... maybe she just had a really bad toothache or something and was in a hurry?
This is a crap excuse. If she had an acute, temporary, personal pain issue, she could have asked the doctor she works with for assistance and if her need was valid he would likely have called her in a couple of doses to hold her until she could see her own provider. She wasn't going to get the pills on the spot anyway as OP didn't have them with.0 -
Health care professionals are not the only ones keeping track of those drug prescriptions...Narcotics agents also keep track of them too. Some of those clinics are little more than legal drug houses being run by "respectable" medical personnel. Some of those "professional" make more money selling legal drugs then they make from their regular paychecks. In some inner city health facilities, it is not at all unusual to have an in house agent monitoring what they believe to be suspicious patients. (Because medical professionals also know how to cover their own behinds).
If the "nurse" felt free to ask OP about buying her "extra pills" (that the clinic dispensed knowing that OP did not need them)...then OP had every right to to tell the nurse that she had NO EXTRA PILLS ...When the crap hits the fan...It is always better to have the authorities looking for missing drugs down at that clinic then to have them looking for them down at OP's or other innocent patient's houses.and yes...OP should report the incident. Nine times out of ten...The nurse is going to say what I told you...and the Doctor (when asked why he gave OP more pills) is going to say that it was a misunderstanding..ie. He thought that OP needed a higher dosage of her medicine. I repeat...REPORT THE FACILITY.!
Of course OP is free to say what she wants. I disagree with you that she should have lied. OP saying she doesn't have them because she flushed them or whatever she said is not at all probable cause for narcotic agents to search her home. If they were to do that, and I were OP, I'd happily sue for violation of my HIPAA and constitutional rights. I can see narcotic agents monitoring how many prescriptions doctors prescribe; this is different than them monitoring patients. If there are in-house agents posing as medical staff at doctor's offices, that's a huge violation of privacy rights and they'd better have a good search warrant. But that search warrant would still have to be justified. OP getting a script for a legal pain killer is not cause to violate her privacy or her home. And a nurse is not a police officer--if she offered to buy them for any reason whatsoever, she broke the law.0 -
Wow! I can totally understand the shock part - I'm not sure how I'd deal with that if it happened to me. It really ought to be reported, though. Wondering if it's best to 'forget the conversation' and see if you can somehow record it if it comes up again - surely that should cover your word against hers.
Just another question in relation to this to anyone who knows: can the patient themselves get into trouble for doing this?0 -
That is really sad. Reporting her is not a bad thing she needs help, as a nurse she has access to many meds and one thing will lead to another. I have seen patients not get their pain medications and suffer because a nurse takes their pain meds. I have also heard of nurses found overdosed in the bathrooms at work.
Do her and her patients a favor, report it. I to am a registered nurse and we don't need impaired nurses taking care of our loved ones. She needs to find help.
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I would have sold it0
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Even if you gave them in leiu of selling them, that is a CRIME. Narcotics are serious stuff. You & her would be arrested no questions asked. You would be charged & convicted of drug disribution. I think you should contact aaw enforcement.
If she asking you, she's asking others too. She could be a dealer and not a user people like that are liars and theives. If you just told the doctor, he'd fire her and she would't get the help she needs. That person needs to be taken out of the medical field.
Even though you flushed them, you'd do her favor in the long run for to get caught so she gets her help0 -
Usually if they have a toothache they find multiple dentist who write prescriptions for them everyday and continue to write for them sad but true. If she is asking you who knows how many others she has asked before you that same day or days before.0
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What would you have done in this situation?
That depends.
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Report her.
How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? Mt. 7:4
Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her. Jn. 8:7
Good one!0 -
What would you have done in this situation?
That depends.
Is she hot?
:laugh:
All money is green and lovely.:smokin:0 -
Health care professionals are not the only ones keeping track of those drug prescriptions...Narcotics agents also keep track of them too. Some of those clinics are little more than legal drug houses being run by "respectable" medical personnel. Some of those "professional" make more money selling legal drugs then they make from their regular paychecks. In some inner city health facilities, it is not at all unusual to have an in house agent monitoring what they believe to be suspicious patients. (Because medical professionals also know how to cover their own behinds).
If the "nurse" felt free to ask OP about buying her "extra pills" (that the clinic dispensed knowing that OP did not need them)...then OP had every right to to tell the nurse that she had NO EXTRA PILLS ...When the crap hits the fan...It is always better to have the authorities looking for missing drugs down at that clinic then to have them looking for them down at OP's or other innocent patient's houses.and yes...OP should report the incident. Nine times out of ten...The nurse is going to say what I told you...and the Doctor (when asked why he gave OP more pills) is going to say that it was a misunderstanding..ie. He thought that OP needed a higher dosage of her medicine. I repeat...REPORT THE FACILITY.!
Of course OP is free to say what she wants. I disagree with you that she should have lied. OP saying she doesn't have them because she flushed them or whatever she said is not at all probable cause for narcotic agents to search her home. If they were to do that, and I were OP, I'd happily sue for violation of my HIPAA and constitutional rights. I can see narcotic agents monitoring how many prescriptions doctors prescribe; this is different than them monitoring patients. If there are in-house agents posing as medical staff at doctor's offices, that's a huge violation of privacy rights and they'd better have a good search warrant. But that search warrant would still have to be justified. OP getting a script for a legal pain killer is not cause to violate her privacy or her home. And a nurse is not a police officer--if she offered to buy them for any reason whatsoever, she broke the law.
A violation of privacy and your constitutional rights? Well, welcome to the REAL 2012 world!!. You are ASSUMING that the clinic is honest and that the nurse is the only rat in that nest. BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER. If the nurse is OPENLY trying to buy extra drugs off of patients.... Then what makes you think that the only drug precriptions being issued under OP's(or any clinic patient's) name are the precriptions that are actually being filled/ used by actual clinic patients....REPORT THE WHOLE CLINIC!0 -
Health care professionals are not the only ones keeping track of those drug prescriptions...Narcotics agents also keep track of them too. Some of those clinics are little more than legal drug houses being run by "respectable" medical personnel. Some of those "professional" make more money selling legal drugs then they make from their regular paychecks. In some inner city health facilities, it is not at all unusual to have an in house agent monitoring what they believe to be suspicious patients. (Because medical professionals also know how to cover their own behinds).
If the "nurse" felt free to ask OP about buying her "extra pills" (that the clinic dispensed knowing that OP did not need them)...then OP had every right to to tell the nurse that she had NO EXTRA PILLS ...When the crap hits the fan...It is always better to have the authorities looking for missing drugs down at that clinic then to have them looking for them down at OP's or other innocent patient's houses.and yes...OP should report the incident. Nine times out of ten...The nurse is going to say what I told you...and the Doctor (when asked why he gave OP more pills) is going to say that it was a misunderstanding..ie. He thought that OP needed a higher dosage of her medicine. I repeat...REPORT THE FACILITY.!
Of course OP is free to say what she wants. I disagree with you that she should have lied. OP saying she doesn't have them because she flushed them or whatever she said is not at all probable cause for narcotic agents to search her home. If they were to do that, and I were OP, I'd happily sue for violation of my HIPAA and constitutional rights. I can see narcotic agents monitoring how many prescriptions doctors prescribe; this is different than them monitoring patients. If there are in-house agents posing as medical staff at doctor's offices, that's a huge violation of privacy rights and they'd better have a good search warrant. But that search warrant would still have to be justified. OP getting a script for a legal pain killer is not cause to violate her privacy or her home. And a nurse is not a police officer--if she offered to buy them for any reason whatsoever, she broke the law.
A violation of privacy and your constitutional rights? Well, welcome to the REAL 2012 world!!. You are ASSUMING that the clinic is honest and that the nurse is the only rat in that nest. BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER. If the nurse is OPENLY trying to buy extra drugs off of patients.... Then what makes you think that the only drug precriptions being issued under OP's(or any clinic patient's) name are the precriptions that are actually being filled/ used by actual clinic patients....REPORT THE WHOLE CLINIC!
Your comment makes no sense whatsoever. Keep kissing the boots of the thugs who would deny your humanity.0 -
Your comment makes no sense whatsoever. Keep kissing the boots of the thugs who would deny your humanity.
You are VERY naive.0 -
A violation of privacy and your constitutional rights? Well, welcome to the REAL 2012 world!!. You are ASSUMING that the clinic is honest and that the nurse is the only rat in that nest. BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER. If the nurse is OPENLY trying to buy extra drugs off of patients.... Then what makes you think that the only drug precriptions being issued under OP's(or any clinic patient's) name are the precriptions that are actually being filled/ used by actual clinic patients....REPORT THE WHOLE CLINIC!
Yes, a violation of privacy and constitutional rights. I'm very well versed in patient rights. If someone invaded my home based on me telling a nurse that I don't have the rest of one bottle of pain pills because I threw them out or flushed them, I'd take the case to the supreme court if I had to. I'd also be blaring it all over the news, creating facebook pages, whatever I had to do. Welcome to 2012 and the glory of instant media!
I don't care if she reports the whole clinic or not. I don't really see any reason to, but that's up to OP. She does have however a very concrete reason to report the nurse. When a healthcare professional is reported, the practice employing her is part of the investigative process. I also find it totally believable that the clinic doesn't know. You'd be surprised what some healthcare professionals will do at reputable agencies. We aren't bugged, no one knows until it is reported. The problem really comes in if this has been reported before and ignored by the clinic.0 -
I'm also not sure why you are talking to me about the clinic. I've repeatedly told the OP to report to the state licensing board, not the clinic.0
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As a retired nurse, I have seen so many nurses get hooked on drug's-especially the painkillers. Our job's a very intense physically-especially if we work in a hospital setting. But, it sounds like you say her in a clinic, or at an office.
Believe me when I say, you do not want a nurse giving you/your family/your CHILDREN/ or anyone else, when she is impaired on drugs.
Nursing is a very detail oriented job. If she under the influence at work, and she makes a medication error-that could cost someone their life.
We have to preform very intricate mathematical conversions at times, and those are easy to error with, even when you are just tired, much less impaired on drugs.
Find your states BOARD of NURSING office, and REPORT HER. You have no idea of how many accident's you would prevent if you take this simple step.
She most likely will not be fired. They (The Board of Nursing) have program's for nurses who have substance abuse problems. GIVE HER A CHANCE.
I LITERALLY BEG YOU..
TURN HER IN, if not to the BOARD, to the Physician she is working under.
Sincerely,
Sister Nicolette Eberle, R.N. (retired)
This sounds like the best advice so far. Woah.0 -
A violation of privacy and your constitutional rights? Well, welcome to the REAL 2012 world!!. You are ASSUMING that the clinic is honest and that the nurse is the only rat in that nest. BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER. If the nurse is OPENLY trying to buy extra drugs off of patients.... Then what makes you think that the only drug precriptions being issued under OP's(or any clinic patient's) name are the precriptions that are actually being filled/ used by actual clinic patients....REPORT THE WHOLE CLINIC!
Yes, a violation of privacy and constitutional rights. I'm very well versed in patient rights. If someone invaded my home based on me telling a nurse that I don't have the rest of one bottle of pain pills because I threw them out or flushed them, I'd take the case to the supreme court if I had to. I'd also be blaring it all over the news, creating facebook pages, whatever I had to do. Welcome to 2012 and the glory of instant media!
I don't care if she reports the whole clinic or not. I don't really see any reason to, but that's up to OP. She does have however a very concrete reason to report the nurse. When a healthcare professional is reported, the practice employing her is part of the investigative process. I also find it totally believable that the clinic doesn't know. You'd be surprised what some healthcare professionals will do at reputable agencies. We aren't bugged, no one knows until it is reported. The problem really comes in if this has been reported before and ignored by the clinic.
Good for you! Never consent to a search without a warrant!0 -
Your comment makes no sense whatsoever. Keep kissing the boots of the thugs who would deny your humanity.
You are VERY naive.
Yes, it's my naiveté that makes it difficult for me to digest grammatically incorrect, non-cohesive thoughts.
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A violation of privacy and your constitutional rights? Well, welcome to the REAL 2012 world!!. You are ASSUMING that the clinic is honest and that the nurse is the only rat in that nest. BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER. If the nurse is OPENLY trying to buy extra drugs off of patients.... Then what makes you think that the only drug precriptions being issued under OP's(or any clinic patient's) name are the precriptions that are actually being filled/ used by actual clinic patients....REPORT THE WHOLE CLINIC!
Yes, a violation of privacy and constitutional rights. I'm very well versed in patient rights. If someone invaded my home based on me telling a nurse that I don't have the rest of one bottle of pain pills because I threw them out or flushed them, I'd take the case to the supreme court if I had to. I'd also be blaring it all over the news, creating facebook pages, whatever I had to do. Welcome to 2012 and the glory of instant media!
I don't care if she reports the whole clinic or not. I don't really see any reason to, but that's up to OP. She does have however a very concrete reason to report the nurse. When a healthcare professional is reported, the practice employing her is part of the investigative process. I also find it totally believable that the clinic doesn't know. You'd be surprised what some healthcare professionals will do at reputable agencies. We aren't bugged, no one knows until it is reported. The problem really comes in if this has been reported before and ignored by the clinic.
Since you are so well versed on Patients rights...then why don't you tell me about a patient's rights when the "authorities" stumble upon tons of forged prescriptions having the patient's name on them? (This kind of crap happens to innocent people all of the time.)
You like many on this board are ASSUMING that the nurse is a drug abuser....The nurse may not be a drug abuser!. All I am saying is that OP should cover her own behind and not make any assumptions about anything.....REPORT THE WHOLE FACILITY.0 -
If you really like her, tell her that you are going to report her in x amount of time. It won't be easy to do, but it would be the kindest thing in the long run.
She can seek help without losing her license this way. Assuming nursing works the same way as my profession (pharmacy), the rules are if you turn yourself in and seek treatment for a substance abuse problem, they will temporarily suspend your license, provide you with treatment, and then reinstate your license when you have completed a program. If you get caught/reported/arrested, that's it, you lose your license and do not get a second chance. That's it, career over.
Follow through though. If you say you'll report her in two weeks, do so. Because if she's already to the point where she's offering to buy controlled substances from patients, it's not too much to think that at some point soon she may be doing something worse. She could be putting patients' lives at risk in the future, if she isn't already. There's a reason people lose medical licenses over substance abuse.
we have a winner. firm but fair. look at that!0 -
Was her name Jackie?!
LMAO! Took the words right out my mouth.
Hot or not she offered to purchase your prescription (not to destroy them) AND gave you her number. Its obvious that she had the intent of consuming them or giving them to someone else who would. This is a crime in the States.
After a bus accident I was given a bottle of percocet. Before I could ask my mother for a ride home from the hospital she was beasting for my pills. I told her "we'll see" but when I called my twin sister she went NUTS. My mother is a recovering drug addict and consumes beer daily. Sometimes she takes her meds with the beer. What if she was out on the road and she fell asleep at the wheel? I took like 2-4 of them over the weekend and I felt they did not work. My mother was calling me non stop for the pills, instead of telling her husband I told her that I needed the pills more than she did. Honestly I stopped taking the pills and switched to advil.
Your medicine is for YOU not a nurse, a friends toothache, or NANA! Just report her, you may be helping her out.0 -
I'm sure the physician she works for would be appalled if he knew his nurse was asking patients she felt comfortable with for their unused scripts...She is jeopardizing all her fellow co-workers employments if this should ever be discovered and the clinic closed down. I , myself, would be disturbed by this incident...as I want to have faith I am being treated by professional health care workers who arent compromising their ethics.0
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Since you are so well versed on Patients rights...then why don't you tell me about a patient's rights when the "authorities" stumble upon tons of forged prescriptions having the patient's name on them? (This kind of crap happens to innocent people all of the time.)
You like many on this board are ASSUMING that the nurse is a drug abuser....The nurse may not be a drug abuser!. All I am saying is that OP should cover her own behind and not make any assumptions about anything.....REPORT THE WHOLE FACILITY.
Since you haven't pointed to any actual incidents, I really can't comment on those innocent people. If you do, I can tell you my opinion and how I would have handled it. Doesn't really matter to me either way. I have yet to have my home raided despite several different surgeries or procedures where I was prescribed more than one pain pill and had it refilled. I can only tell you what I would do, which I already did.
Can you point to where I assumed she was a drug addict? I can point to you several instances where I clarified that I am much more concerned with her ethical obligations to her patients. I have no idea what she wants the pills for, nor do I care. I do think you are confusing the issue by making a claim that OP could have been investigated for simply saying she doesn't have any pills anymore and thus should have lied about it. (Again, if you don't take pills as prescribed, by taking them more than you are supposed to, that's actually a legal issue too. It's highly unlikely to become one, but since you advised that OP said the wrong thing and could have been busted for it, I'm answering why lying about taking them all was not in her best interest.)
Unless you are an attorney and referring to your own clients and have intimate knowledge of the events, I'd also question the veracity of stories where completely "innocent" people were investigated without cause. It's remarkable to me how many details "trickle" out over time that people didn't want to say at first.0 -
The main reason I advise OP not to lie about taking all her pills is because misinformation when it comes to pain pills could prevent her from being prescribed the right medicine for her, either because of false medical information or because they do suspect her of being addicted or dealing. That could prevent her from getting effective treatment. Healthcare providers are not the law, but they do need to know the truth to provide effective treatment. It's why I can go to my doctor and tell them I abuse crack (I don't!) without fear of arrest. If I don't tell them that, something they do treatment-wise could kill me or not work properly and they'd not know why.0
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Since you are so well versed on Patients rights...then why don't you tell me about a patient's rights when the "authorities" stumble upon tons of forged prescriptions having the patient's name on them? (This kind of crap happens to innocent people all of the time.)
You like many on this board are ASSUMING that the nurse is a drug abuser....The nurse may not be a drug abuser!. All I am saying is that OP should cover her own behind and not make any assumptions about anything.....REPORT THE WHOLE FACILITY.
Since you haven't pointed to any actual incidents, I really can't comment on those innocent people. If you do, I can tell you my opinion and how I would have handled it. Doesn't really matter to me either way. I have yet to have my home raided despite several different surgeries or procedures where I was prescribed more than one pain pill and had it refilled. I can only tell you what I would do, which I already did.
Can you point to where I assumed she was a drug addict? I can point to you several instances where I clarified that I am much more concerned with her ethical obligations to her patients. I have no idea what she wants the pills for, nor do I care. I do think you are confusing the issue by making a claim that OP could have been investigated for simply saying she doesn't have any pills anymore and thus should have lied about it. (Again, if you don't take pills as prescribed, by taking them more than you are supposed to, that's actually a legal issue too. It's highly unlikely to become one, but since you advised that OP said the wrong thing and could have been busted for it, I'm answering why lying about taking them all was not in her best interest.)
Unless you are an attorney and referring to your own clients and have intimate knowledge of the events, I'd also question the veracity of stories where completely "innocent" people were investigated without cause. It's remarkable to me how many details "trickle" out over time that people didn't want to say at first.
RICHARD PAEY0 -
Since you are so well versed on Patients rights...then why don't you tell me about a patient's rights when the "authorities" stumble upon tons of forged prescriptions having the patient's name on them? (This kind of crap happens to innocent people all of the time.)
You like many on this board are ASSUMING that the nurse is a drug abuser....The nurse may not be a drug abuser!. All I am saying is that OP should cover her own behind and not make any assumptions about anything.....REPORT THE WHOLE FACILITY.
Since you haven't pointed to any actual incidents, I really can't comment on those innocent people. If you do, I can tell you my opinion and how I would have handled it. Doesn't really matter to me either way. I have yet to have my home raided despite several different surgeries or procedures where I was prescribed more than one pain pill and had it refilled. I can only tell you what I would do, which I already did.
Can you point to where I assumed she was a drug addict? I can point to you several instances where I clarified that I am much more concerned with her ethical obligations to her patients. I have no idea what she wants the pills for, nor do I care. I do think you are confusing the issue by making a claim that OP could have been investigated for simply saying she doesn't have any pills anymore and thus should have lied about it. (Again, if you don't take pills as prescribed, by taking them more than you are supposed to, that's actually a legal issue too. It's highly unlikely to become one, but since you advised that OP said the wrong thing and could have been busted for it, I'm answering why lying about taking them all was not in her best interest.)
Unless you are an attorney and referring to your own clients and have intimate knowledge of the events, I'd also question the veracity of stories where completely "innocent" people were investigated without cause. It's remarkable to me how many details "trickle" out over time that people didn't want to say at first.
RICHARD PAEY*****RICHARD PAEY***RICHARD PAEY!!!!!0
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