Fruit Makes you Fat

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  • TexasTroy
    TexasTroy Posts: 477 Member
    okay yay!!!! EVERYBODY please stop eating fruit...that just leaves more for me to eat:) Fruits are a person's best friend-especially those that are dieting and limiting the amount of calories you are eating- LIMITING CALORIES LIMITS THE NUTRIENTS YOU GET!!! Fruits are loaded with vitamins and minerals that can do everything from improving your digestion to making you look younger, have more energy and fueled up for your hard workouts. Yes, they have calories and yes, they can induce an insulin spike but they will no more make you gain fat than chewing on a piece of paper as long as your total calories arent over what you need.
  • Lconsla
    Lconsla Posts: 226 Member
    totally agree with you!
  • bluefrog_2001
    bluefrog_2001 Posts: 138 Member
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    lol!
  • dezikontos
    dezikontos Posts: 2 Member
    Hi Im really confused.
    I have been trying to lose weight and i am sticking to 'good foods'ut i find that the whole eating veggies and drinking loads of water just bloats me, should i be weighing my veggies as well and im drinking up to 3 litres oif water a day is this right...
    Im looking at having a professional boxing fight this year and my coach has asked me to drop 5 kilos down to 56 kilos. i have 5 months to do it but im lean as it is but i need to get those last kilos off but i still need to be strong and not starve myself - the whole eating veggies thing and drinking all this water is making me lose my mind i am to scared to get on the scales
    im getting really confused
    i dont know if you could help me or not
  • SwimFan1981
    SwimFan1981 Posts: 1,430 Member
    I wouldn't expect anything less from the Daily Fail, I mean Mail :laugh:
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    Hi Im really confused.
    I have been trying to lose weight and i am sticking to 'good foods'ut i find that the whole eating veggies and drinking loads of water just bloats me, should i be weighing my veggies as well and im drinking up to 3 litres oif water a day is this right...
    Im looking at having a professional boxing fight this year and my coach has asked me to drop 5 kilos down to 56 kilos. i have 5 months to do it but im lean as it is but i need to get those last kilos off but i still need to be strong and not starve myself - the whole eating veggies thing and drinking all this water is making me lose my mind i am to scared to get on the scales
    im getting really confused
    i dont know if you could help me or not

    Well, for one thing, you need to pay attention to more than just vegetables and water. You need adequate protein and fat, especially "good fats". If you are already lean, why would you want to lose any more weight? If you are lifting weights to get stronger, (and you are already lean) then you must eat at a surplus in order to put on muscle weight. Why does your coach want you to lose weight? Is it to get into a lower-weight category of boxer? If that is the reason, dieting for that purpose, will just get you sick and emaciated.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    Well crap. Please don't tell my body this! It seems to think I can still lose weight and eat tons of fruit like I am.

    Damnit. I knew it was too good to be true.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    I wouldn't expect anything less from the Daily Fail, I mean Mail :laugh:

    Yes, I think the Daily Mail article is misleading but there is some truth to the idea that excessive fructose leads to obesity. Our greatest exposure to fructose though is NOT from eating fruit---it is from our 500-calorie-a-day sugar habit. (Sucrose, i.e. table sugar, is 50% fructose). Fructose researchers are focusing on the hypothesis that fructose has an "anti-satiety" quality and prompts overeating. Fruit, because the fructose it contains is encased in fiber and is diluted with water, is really not a problem for most people. Fructose researchers do recommend a sugar-free, low-fructose diet for the obese. It is sugar that is the problem for obese folk. It may turn out to be a problem centered in the liver of obese people. Researchers believe that, fructose, in large amounts, overwhelms the liver's capacity to deal with it. Since I got the sugar out of my diet, I have not overeaten even once. It has been about three years since I have had any sugar and the weight loss that I have enjoyed has been pretty effortless (other than the working out I have done). :wink:
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    I didn't read the article but I have to say, if I eat even normal serving sizes of sweet fruit like bananas, pineapple, mangoes etc. my body doesn't much care about where the sugar rush came from, it just cares that it came, and it just wants more. So does fruit make you fat? no. Can it trigger cravings for more sugary food that WILL make you fat? For some of us. I prefer leafy greens and non starchy veggies to fruit... and I am going to try eating seasonally and locally. I have no business eating mangoes 12 months of the year up here in Canada! LOL
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    I wouldn't expect anything less from the Daily Fail, I mean Mail :laugh:

    Yes, I think the Daily Mail article is misleading but there is some truth to the idea that excessive fructose leads to obesity. Our greatest exposure to fructose though is NOT from eating fruit---it is from our 500-calorie-a-day sugar habit. (Sucrose, i.e. table sugar, is 50% fructose). Fructose researchers are focusing on the hypothesis that fructose has an "anti-satiety" quality and prompts overeating. Fruit, because the fructose it contains is encased in fiber and is diluted with water, is really not a problem for most people. Fructose researchers do recommend a sugar-free, low-fructose diet for the obese. It is sugar that is the problem for obese folk. It may turn out to be a problem centered in the liver of obese people. Researchers believe that, fructose, in large amounts, overwhelms the liver's capacity to deal with it. Since I got the sugar out of my diet, I have not overeaten even once. It has been about three years since I have had any sugar and the weight loss that I have enjoyed has been pretty effortless (other than the working out I have done). :wink:

    THIS!
  • jessykab74
    jessykab74 Posts: 167 Member
    I'm pretty sure most of us aren't on here because we eat too many apples...



    HAHA that is so true!!!
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    I'm pretty sure most of us aren't on here because we eat too many apples...



    HAHA that is so true!!!

    Yep. :laugh: It's the SUGAR, folks. It's all the ice cream, pies, cakes, cookies, candy, chocolate, soda pop, and processed food, with all its "hidden" sugar that we eat. (For example, is it really necessary to put so much sugar in Wendy's chili?) Food manufacturers have long-since figured out that, if they include sugar in processed food, that we will eat more of it.
  • littlebre33
    littlebre33 Posts: 318
    No fruit or any other kind of food makes u fat,you make you fat


    ^^^ THIS!!! ^^^
  • joleenl
    joleenl Posts: 739 Member
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    Love this!
  • belgerian
    belgerian Posts: 1,059 Member
    So instead of my apple and bannana with my fage 2 percent yogurt (300 Cal) I should opt for a double baconator meal becouse all that sugar will fatten me up.
  • LokiOfAsgard
    LokiOfAsgard Posts: 378 Member
    Fact: You should never eat ANYTHING! It will ALL make you fat! All you really should eat, to maintain a healthy lifestyle is water and air!

    100% of all people that drink water and breathe air will die
    It's the truth!
  • 4_Lisa
    4_Lisa Posts: 362 Member
    Makes perfect sense. Having Diabetics for parents and a Hypoglycemic son, I have always tried to do 1 fruit to at least 2 veggies, and with my son he doesn't eat fruit unless he has a complex carb (usually cheese and crackers) to digest with it so his insulin levels don't spike. He over produces insulin, so double what is required to manage his sugar levels.
  • thankyou4thevenom
    thankyou4thevenom Posts: 1,581 Member
    Oh the Daily Fail. If you read it like it's sarcasm it's the funniest paper in the world.
  • TheDevastator
    TheDevastator Posts: 1,626 Member
    They took time out from celebrity news did they?
  • MissFitee
    MissFitee Posts: 106 Member
    The article does have alot of valid points though. Im sure you've all overheard or even been in a discussion with someone that goes something like this:
    - Im trying to lose weight so I'm eating alot of fruit.
    + Just be careful not to over eat it, fruit contains calories aswell
    - Yes, but It's fruit.
    + But it's still calories.
    - But calories from fruit doesnt make you gain weight because it's healthy calories.

    Im sure those people are the same who think they'll get bulky from lifting barbiestyle. =)

    Now, I'm not saying that some gossip-looking website is the place to go for facts, but what I read did contain alot of truth. =)
  • toaster6
    toaster6 Posts: 703 Member
    You're sourcing the Daily Mail?! Go smack yourself upside the head.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member

    you might like this little ditty about that particular rag:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI

    Yep, because of course all the non-human primates that eat fruit are all obese...
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    Makes perfect sense. Having Diabetics for parents and a Hypoglycemic son, I have always tried to do 1 fruit to at least 2 veggies, and with my son he doesn't eat fruit unless he has a complex carb (usually cheese and crackers) to digest with it so his insulin levels don't spike. He over produces insulin, so double what is required to manage his sugar levels.

    ^^^THIS^^^ Yes--many people have a real problem with fructose. The obese and Type II diabetics need to watch their fructose intake carefully. Diabetes researchers often now refer to obesity and Type II as essentially one disease, calling it "diabestity" since morbid obesity carries with it an extremely high rate of Type II diabetes. They believe that a "toxic" reaction to fructose is part of the picture. I actually went back and read the entire Daily Mail article today. It is a bit sensationalistic (do they do anything else???) but here is a small part of the article that has some truth to it: I am familiar with the research at the University of Colorado that they mention:

    "As Ursula Arens, of the British Dietetic Association, points out: 'Too many nutritionists would jump up and down if the public picked up the message that eating an apple wasn't good for them.'

    Yet one possible guideline emerged after a recent study at Colorado University. Scientists looked at 4,500 people with no history of high blood pressure and discovered those who ate more than 74g of fructose a day increased their risk of the condition by up to 87 per cent.

    Though this is the equivalent of ten apples or 30 oranges, you'd need only just over three large smoothies to top this figure (one smoothie contains around 23g of fructose."
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    They should have put that information at the top of the article instead of burying it at the bottom and running with the headline distortion. Interestingly, instead of focusing on the source of excessive fructose (which is sugar consumption) they make people think that eating fruit is the problem, when it is almost certainly not in the normal amount of fruit that most people eat. It is the SUGAR. One piece of "Carrot Cake a la Mode" at the Keg restaurant has 130 grams of fructose (260 grams of sugar). It also has, about 2,400 calories if I remember correctly. I'm surprised they don't have people lapsing into diabetic comas right on the spot. :frown:
  • No no no! Fruits are healthy and don't make you fat! I eat lots of fruits and vegetables every day. It gives you energy, cleans your body and keep your metabolism high..

    Remember that energy is not only measured in calories!

    Your cells can be measured in MHz as sound waves. Your body must replace cells regularly. A healthy body's cells emit 75-90 MHz. A body, for example, suffering from cancer emits only 30 MHz and a dead body, as you may guess emits 0.
    Most fresh unprepared vegetables emit up to 250 and fresh unprepared fruits emit 95 MHz.
    Meat, burger, pizza, yogurt etc. emits 0 MHz. Therefore, fruits and vegetables are important every day! Plus they contain important vitamins and minerals.

    So eating vegetables and fruits is a natural way to keep your whole body young and healthy because you build new cells up with food that contains lots of energy :-)
  • sullus
    sullus Posts: 2,839 Member
    No no no! Fruits are healthy and don't make you fat! I eat lots of fruits and vegetables every day. It gives you energy, cleans your body and keep your metabolism high..

    Remember that energy is not only measured in calories!

    Your cells can be measured in MHz as sound waves. Your body must replace cells regularly. A healthy body's cells emit 75-90 MHz. A body, for example, suffering from cancer emits only 30 MHz and a dead body, as you may guess emits 0.
    Most vegetables emit up to 250 and fruits emit 95 MHz.
    Meat, burger, pizza, yogurt etc. emits 0 MHz. Therefore, fruits and vegetables are important every day! Plus they contain important vitamins and minerals

    So eating vegetables and fruits is a natural way to keep your whole body young and healthy because you build new cells up with food that contains lots of energy :-)

    But .. But .. Pizza is mostly fruit and vegetables ...
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member

    you might like this little ditty about that particular rag:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI

    Yep, because of course all the non-human primates that eat fruit are all obese...

    Humans are the only mammals who do not possess uricase, the enzyme responsible for helping other creatures to eliminate uric acid from their bodies. The only way we have of eliminating uric acid is to send it through the kidneys. We have the gene for producing uricase but it is non-functional. The reason why this is important is that metabolizing fructose, raises uric acid levels and that elevated uric acid is responsible for a whole host of problems. According to the University of Colorado researchers, it sets off a cascade of inflammation, fatty liver, impaired liver function, obesity,Type II diabetes, hypertension, gouty arthritis, gout, cardiovascular disease, renal disease and failure. They also note that what was once considered to be "elevated" uric acid levels are now considered to be "normal". They believe that the rise in sugar consumption (especially during the last three decades) is responsible. In 1900, it is estimated that the average American ate less than five pounds of sugar a year. It is now, something like 150 pounds per person per year. :noway: This rise in sugar (sucrose) consumption tracks perfectly with the increase in obesity and Type II diabetes. We've got a problem, folks, and the problem is NOT fruit---it is the ridiculous consumption of sugar.