Fat moms = fat kids??
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I can see this from both sides. If kids grow up seeing mom (or dad for that matter) self medicating with food then won't they learn that's the way to (not) deal with issues?
Do most overweight moms(or dads) REALLY make two meals? One healthy nutritious for kids while she eats powdered Mac N Cheese and Prepressed chicken nuggets? Prolly not, kids are eating junk too. That's great while they are so young and their metabolism burns it off but what happens when they don't learn how to eat healthy. Then when they turn 20, 25, and 30 they are still eating junk and their body starts packing on the fat.
Not saying ALL fat parents raise fat kids but I could see how the kids have a greater chance of being fat.0 -
That study is nowhere near thorough enough for my liking and doesn't take into account a lot of things.
My parents are both normal sized, not rail thin, but on the high end of normal. They always have been. They have 5 kids, 2 of which stayed thin and 3 of which were morbidly obese before the age of 10. We all ate the same thing, we were home all the time due to being homeschooled, so no one received a different experience. Yet, two of them are still thin despite still eating garbage and three of us struggle with our weight.
One of my best friends is huge, her parents are normal. She got big around 11 years old, both of her kids are stick thin bundles of energy. She eats right now, her kids eat right, but she still isn't doing quite enough to lose. But, her kids are eating healthy. There's no junk food in that house. Even though she's still around 300 lbs, she made positive changes in her diet and brings her kids to the park to play everyday. There's no soda, no pizza, no cheese noodles, none of that garbage.
This study doesn't take into account the mothers change in diet after weight loss surgery and also doesn't take into account whether the same results are netted with weight loss via diet and exercise. Honestly, to me it sounds like a gimmicky study by a doctor who does lapband and gastric bypass surgeries. I wonder how many more customers you can net if you tell women that without your product they set their children up for heart disease?0 -
I can see this from both sides. If kids grow up seeing mom (or dad for that matter) self medicating with food then won't they learn that's the way to (not) deal with issues?
Do most overweight moms(or dads) REALLY make two meals? One healthy nutritious for kids while she eats powdered Mac N Cheese and Prepressed chicken nuggets? Prolly not, kids are eating junk too. That's great while they are so young and their metabolism burns it off but what happens when they don't learn how to eat healthy. Then when they turn 20, 25, and 30 they are still eating junk and their body starts packing on the fat.
Not saying ALL fat parents raise fat kids but I could see how the kids have a greater chance of being fat.
My mother, as I said, has always been overweight. But she eats the healthiest food of anyone I know.
It bugs the hell out of me that so many people assume if a person if overweight, that person is eating mac and cheese and bon bons all the time. You CAN overeat and gain weight on healthy food.0 -
Mine are both healthy and fit. What will keep them that way is what i am doing now.
I don't know if you read the article or not, but the fact that your children are currently fit is not the point. The study was on the genes of the children. Specifically on the difference in the genetics of siblings born to the same parent but one (or more) born when the mother was obese and the other(s) born after she lost weight.
What matters to me is that they are not now and I make sure that as long as I care for them they don't become.
I swear I'm not trolling, I really am curious HOW you do that? If you are overweight but they aren't... what are you eating that they don't? Is it just that you eat a LOT of healthy food or you hide junk food so they can't find it? Do you eat lots of food out of the house? Do you monitor how much they eat and cut them off at a certain point?0 -
My mother was super skinny with both of my sisters (one is now overweight, the other anorexic (but if she ate she'd be overweight too)) - and they grew up for the most part chunky, and mom was moderately sized with me and I am obese and have always been a heavy child. It is not just genetics, however yes they can play a part.
I believe that lifestyle can trump and even activate certain genes, but your lifestyle and personal food choices are more responsible for how you end up than anything. It's a choice every time you put that food in your mouth (or your childrens' mouths). You know if it's not healthy or good for you before it even makes it to your plate, let alone your mouth. If you feed your children bad things, they will get heavy, fat, obese etc. If you don't and teach them healthy choices, guess what, they will most likely thank you for that when in adult hood they are healthy (regardless of size) and making great choices.
And to Kelseyhere - I hope you haven't reproduced and if you have I pity your daughter. Heaven forbid she ever becomes overweight, you'll never have grandchildren with the ugly mentality you displayed here today.
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Mine are both healthy and fit. What will keep them that way is what i am doing now.
I don't know if you read the article or not, but the fact that your children are currently fit is not the point. The study was on the genes of the children. Specifically on the difference in the genetics of siblings born to the same parent but one (or more) born when the mother was obese and the other(s) born after she lost weight.
What matters to me is that they are not now and I make sure that as long as I care for them they don't become.
I adore you. Smooches. Big, sloppy internet smooches coming your way.
NO I love you more!0 -
I can see this from both sides. If kids grow up seeing mom (or dad for that matter) self medicating with food then won't they learn that's the way to (not) deal with issues?
Do most overweight moms(or dads) REALLY make two meals? One healthy nutritious for kids while she eats powdered Mac N Cheese and Prepressed chicken nuggets? Prolly not, kids are eating junk too. That's great while they are so young and their metabolism burns it off but what happens when they don't learn how to eat healthy. Then when they turn 20, 25, and 30 they are still eating junk and their body starts packing on the fat.
Not saying ALL fat parents raise fat kids but I could see how the kids have a greater chance of being fat.
OK, so this might be one of the most embarrassing things I have ever admitted, but yes in a way. I had horrible snacks and drinks at my desk at work. I would eat horribly fattening, greasy lunches and eat junk food and snacks all day at work. When I was home and the kids were awake, snacks were yogurt, light cheese, hummus and vegetables, fruits, etc. Meals were lean meats, fish, veggies and very healthy carbs.After the kids were in bed, we'd order pizza, we'd get take out and make sure it was gone before the kids were awake. My kids are very used to healthy meals and snacks and proper portioning of junk foods.0 -
My mum is skinny as a rake. My younger sister is skinny too with big boobs and Im podgy with big boobs. life isnt fair. xx0
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This is just cruel and wrong.i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.My mother, as I said, has always been overweight. But she eats the healthiest food of anyone I know.
It bugs the hell out of me that so many people assume if a person if overweight, that person is eating mac and cheese and bon bons all the time. You CAN overeat and gain weight on healthy food.
I'm not trying to troll or anything, this topic really interests me. Both my parents were very thin when they were younger but overweight if not just into obese as they aged. I know that emotional eating was all learned from my mom and verbal abuse from my dad multiplied the problem. He would be horribly cruel and to soothe me my mom would make something delicious for me.
I realize the article is about the biology of it all but really even putting that aside.... we learn eating habits from our parents. They are there teaching us through our formative years. If they teach us bad habits it's years (if ever) before we learn differently and change those habits.
(..and yes, I realize you can get fat eating healthy foods too)0 -
i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
I can't believe I just read this.0 -
i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
WAIT A FREAKIN MINUTE HERE.......
this has to be a joke.... I have 2 healthy children. i was 80 pounds overweight when I got pregnant with my first child.... NOT ONE PROBLEM.
Please tell me what type of scientific research backs up your theory!!!!!!!!!!!!0 -
i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
Wow....just....wow.
Judgmental much?
^THIS - exactly what I said when I read the OP - Judgemental much?0 -
In regard to the original article... it seems that they're specifically talking about women who have had weight loss surgery... not necessarily ALL types of weight loss. I wonder if the predisposition to obesity and heart disease is also avoided by losing weight through regular diet and exercise or if it's specific to the type of weight loss experienced after surgery because of some unmentioned factor. I'd really like it if the article specified that one detail because that's why I'm trying to lose weight... to start a family.0
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Mine are both healthy and fit. What will keep them that way is what i am doing now.
I don't know if you read the article or not, but the fact that your children are currently fit is not the point. The study was on the genes of the children. Specifically on the difference in the genetics of siblings born to the same parent but one (or more) born when the mother was obese and the other(s) born after she lost weight.
What matters to me is that they are not now and I make sure that as long as I care for them they don't become.
I swear I'm not trolling, I really am curious HOW you do that? If you are overweight but they aren't... what are you eating that they don't? Is it just that you eat a LOT of healthy food or you hide junk food so they can't find it? Do you eat lots of food out of the house? Do you monitor how much they eat and cut them off at a certain point?
She is on MFP...why do you assume she still eats unhealthy and/or binges? Just because someone is overweight before/during pregnancy doesn't mean they don't try to change their habits after.0 -
i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
The awesome things we say when we are young :-)
hey now, I'm young and I'm not that ignorant or....well I'm not going to say the other things I think about the original post, because that just wouldn't be lady like
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i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
I can't believe I just read this.
I think Kelseyhere went to the mods to delete her original post. Too bad she did not have the balls to back up her garbage.0 -
This is an interesting subject. One that frusterates me. I have five children, (and YES I did become pregnant when I was more than 40 pound overweight *rolls eyes*), Three of my children are built the same (large boned), and they are overweight. Two of my children are super slim. One of my "slim" children, we have actually been dealing with being underweight!!!! He is the second oldest, the other slim one is our youngest. I was "fit" when I had my first, and not when I had the others. They all eat the same foods, same activity level, same house....ect, but two have a totally different metabolisms and genes. So frusterating as a Mom!!!! The pediatrician told me that genes totally has a role to play. They just can't eat the same way their siblings do and need to have a higher activity level than them to be able to maintain the weight. I'd love to go on.....but I gotta fly....maybe I'll check in later 0
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For me and my siblings we saw how my mother ate for confort and when she was stressed...there was always this urgency when she wwould cook a meal that we might not have it tomorrow so eat it all now.
I was never overweight till after my first few years in college I was always robust and curvy.
I see my mothes poor eating habits in what I do now..well before MFP.
A good example..my nephew at 10...at least 100lbs overweight...he was at my house visiting for dinner...he asked for 'real' chicken for dinner..not the bbq chicken breast I made...the real chicken he was referring to...was the chicken from MCDONALDS.
If you only offer your kids certain foods...they have no hope to avoid becoming overweight:(0 -
i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
I can't believe I just read this.
I think Kelseyhere went to the mods to delete her original post. Too bad she did not have the balls to back up her garbage.
wow...shocking...big or small...love is love0 -
i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
I can't believe I just read this.
I think Kelseyhere went to the mods to delete her original post. Too bad she did not have the balls to back up her garbage.
Wow, I have much to say on this....but just won't!! LOL0 -
I think it's more to do with what you feed your kids and if you promote and model a healthy lifestyle that makes a difference if your kids are overweight or not than if you are overweight yourself.
I was probably about 10lbs overweight when I got pregnant with my 1st, but very healthy and fit, I just seem to weigh more than I look like I do! I lost it all and was around the same when I got pregnant with my 2nd, but unfortunately put on loads in pregnancy. I have overweight parents myself and was quite big as a teenager, but really slimmed down once I started university, but any chance my body gets to put on weight, it will!
My kids are still young, but they are tall and slim. My 3 year old son is on the 98th centile for height and the 50th for weight. He can take or leave food, and he is so active, we go out for walks, to the park, on his scooter etc every single day. My daughter is 17 months and walked at 9.5 months and is also incredibly active. She eats more than her brother, but she likes healthy food. We all eat meals together - i am just making our dinner of tuna fishcake, peas, carrots, broccoli and potato. We never eat junk, and if we want something like a cake we make it ourselves.
My husband is 6 foot and has a healthy BMI, and was incredibly skinny as a child, so I think my 2 take after him!0 -
Really? Perhaps we should also prevent pregnancy for anyone with a genetic condition, or an affinity for tattoos, or perhaps for religious or political reasons. Yes that would work, NOT!!!!!!!i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
Or maybe we should prevent pregnancy for people with certain behaviors, who are presumptuous, and prejudiced against a whole group of people.0 -
i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
The awesome things we say when we are young :-)
hey now, I'm young and I'm not that ignorant or....well I'm not going to say the other things I think about the original post, because that just wouldn't be lady like
I think we all are showing great restraint! lol0 -
My mother was an emotional binge eater. But she never binged in front of anyone. she hid it, which was part of her problem. She's told me recently that she doesn't do it anymore or even want to now. Her sister is that way, too. She's also struggled with weight her whole life, but all of her children are very thin and always have been. And my grandmother has always been a healthy weight.
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason in my family for why some of us struggle with weight and some of us don't. I guess since I didn't see my mom binging and because she never harped on my weight (her mother did that), I never developed emotional or binge eating. I gained weight because I ate small amounts of VERY high-calorie foods and it caught up to me eventually.0 -
i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
WAIT A FREAKIN MINUTE HERE.......
this has to be a joke.... I have 2 healthy children. i was 80 pounds overweight when I got pregnant with my first child.... NOT ONE PROBLEM.
Please tell me what type of scientific research backs up your theory!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL! Thank you! See my profile pic! That sweet, little, healthy boy there, that after a PERFECT pregnancy, delivered with no complications.......is SUPER healthy and slim! He is almost five now. I was also 80 pounds overweight! Thank you very much!0 -
i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
The awesome things we say when we are young :-)
hey now, I'm young and I'm not that ignorant or....well I'm not going to say the other things I think about the original post, because that just wouldn't be lady like
I think we all are showing great restraint! lol
I think most were shocked to read it. I personally would rather have overweight people reproducing than ignorant ones.0 -
No dont think so fat moms dont equal fat kids!
Two obese parents who teach there kids to eat like they do and dont care about what they eat "may" cause their kids to be overweight. I have seen way more super skinny moms with chunky daughters . No one here needs to tell anyone they shouldnt have a baby because they are heavy!!!! Thin women can be terrible moms , so its not about weight (health maybe , but heavy women seem to have normal birthweight babies)
oh and kids are far more active, have faster metabolisms and dont have health problems yet, thats why they are still normal weight.
parents have slower metabolisms, may have thyroid problems, have been on steriods for various health issues, been in an accident, etc.( which can cause you to gain lots of weight) JUST BECAUSE A WOMEN IS OVERWEIGHT DOESNT MEAN SHE EATS TOO MUCH ..OR THAT SHE IS LAZY.
MY husband and I are not obese , our kids are very healthy. I do have a health issue which has made it very hard to lose weight from my last pregnancy (thats why I found MFP) BUt Ive always been thin , Im teaching my kids to not even use the word "FAT"- our society thinks its ok to make fun of fat people , they have severe emotional issues from being heavy, they know they are and dont need kids or adults staring or snickering-would you make fun of a handicapped person??
I see way more heavier moms with thin kids than fat, thats my opinion, this comment is not directed at anyone in particular..just wanted to enlighten some people0 -
It's kinda funny when you have the mods delete your post after 20 people copy it...she is lucky the username doesn't copy along with it.0
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i personally don't think any woman more than 40 pounds overweight has any business being pregnant in the first place. it's selfish and irresponsible.
young women, if you want to have children someday take care of your body now and get in shape.
WOW! just wow.0 -
Both genetics and environment have to come into play. I have three daughters. The first two are from my first husband. he was 6'5", lean/athletic build. The last one with my current husband, who is very stocky with short, massively muscled legs (naturally, not from bodybuilding - never seen anything like it), 6'0", overweight. All three girls were raised together, eat the same, etc. Of the older two, one is 5'9" about 150 lbs, very athletic (and born the lightest). The other is 5'9", 120 lbs, very lean (born the heaviest). My youngest is 5'6", about 220 lbs, short stocky legs, built just like her dad. I have been overweight my entire adult life, but was at my lightest when I got pregnant with the first one (athletic build girl), at my heaviest when I got pregnant with the second one (the lightest girl). And i I gained the most weight with my lightest daughter (lightest now, born the heaviest.) I think there are too many variables to say there is a direct correlation.0
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