Dr. told me to drop down to 750 calories
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i had 750 cals for breakfast... i'm not even kidding.
i don't think that's healthy.
IMO you should get advice from a NUTRITIONIST/DIETITIAN...not your doctor.
Nutritionalists and dietitians may not have formal educations (I was shocked when I found that out). I would find a doctor that specializes in nutrition. It is like talking to a regular doctor about obgyn stuff.0 -
OK Part of this is BS.
NOW as someone who is 4'11 I can tell you I ate about 900-1200 calories which my doctor said was fine unless i worked out hard, then eat more. BUT i mean if you are eating eggs and veggis and chicken, you can get full on not too much food. So I don't recommend eating 750 but yes us Shorties can survive on a lot less then what normal sized people can. I use a heart rate monitor and average 350-750 a workout and no way I only lose 100 calories. Some doctors think they know everything but I can tell you that at our height we should be in the 100-125 weight range, and above that can be more harmful on us since we aren't a normal height. Just log your calories here, exercise (don't be afraid of weights too!) and prove your doctor wrong! I have a doctors appointment in 2 weeks and I cant wait to show off the 40 pounds I lost without her help!
Oh and yes you can lose weight without exercise. My dad changed his diet and lost 35 pounds without even going on walks! it is 80% what you eat. I know people who workout and workout but eat unhealthy and they never lose weight. But you will get max results incorporating healthy eating and exercise. Plus I want to be FIT not skinny!0 -
as far as i know the minimum healty is 1200....0
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I agree with all those who say to get a new doctor. I have had to replace my doctor this last year. It was hard to do, but I realized that I had to do it for my health. I had a health issue and needed treatment, and she didn't have a clue on how to diagnose it or treat it.
You are your own best advocate! Stand up for yourself and find a doctor who will help you achieve and maintain optimal health.0 -
quack quack... look it's a ruckin duck!0
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Time for a new doctor. Seriously. I lost over 100 pounds. I plateaued for years with another 30 to lose and couldn't get any more off. Then I started gaining. On 1200 to 1500 cals a day and a TON of exercise. I bike, paddle board, lift weights, hike, dance, do marital arts, etc. I burn a minimum of 300 a day in exercise. Sometimes as many 1200 on the days I biked to the marina, paddle boarded for an hour and biked home. I had to go to no less than THREE doctors before I found one who didn't have cranio-rectal syndrome and was willing to listen to me and take me seriously and not just pat me on the head and say I was probably premenopausal. It turns out I have Hashimotos. Losing weight with it is a real uphill battle. With medication and a very low carb diet, I'm losing ridiculously slow and at least I've stopped gaining. If you doctor isn't giving you answers, that's bad enough. But when your doctor is giving you the wrong answers and advocating an unhealthy lifestyle, its time to move on. Good luck.0
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You need to switch physicians, IMMEDIATELY. Seriously, tomorrow morning.
There is so much wrong with that statement, I have no idea where to start!
#1- No physician should ever tell there patients that exercise does nothing. That is absolutely ridiculous.
#2- It's ok to eat 750 maybe 2-3x a week, but you supplement that with days in between of 1200+ calories. 750 is essentially fasting. Your electrolytes will deplete and you're just asking for heart/muscle/bone problems.
#3- This sight may or may not be correct with certain information but it gives you a rough estimate of where you are vs. need to be.
My advice (& I'm no doctor!) -
Weight loss is simple.
*Move vigorously for 20-30 minutes 4-5 days a week. Dance, walk, work out video, gym. Just MOVE. There are 1,440 minutes in a day. Use 20-30 minutes of that to exercise!
*Drink water & wash your hands.
*Eat 1000-1200 calories a day. You know what has a ton of sodium and is high in calories. Use good judgement.
The hardest part (to me anyway) is motivation. I get discouraged easily. I am working on pushing through the bad days and focusing on the long term picture. Results aren't going to happen over night.
Best of luck to you.0 -
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I did some research and lowest amount of calories suggest is 900 and your doctor wants you to go lower than that! That is ridiculous, she is worried about one health problem by potentially causing other ones!!
900 Calorie Diet
By Gina Ragusa, eHow Contributor
Read more: 900 Calorie Diet | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/way_5191575_900-calorie-diet.html#ixzz2B1c4zgfL0 -
*site... F***, I'm off today.0
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I don't think folks are questioning whether or not the method will work. I think they're questioning the wisdom of it. The doc made no mention (unless the OP failed to relay that in her post) of any type of monitoring/follow-up care/guidance other than to drop down to 750 cals. The OP also brought up valid concerns, which the doc seemed to ignore or brush off. Those things combined would have me questioning the docs advice as well.
Completely agree with you. No followup/guidance offered other than the calorie thing. She is SURE I'm eating too much and that's the problem.
This exactly. Not only did the doctor fail to offer any monitoring or specific strategies, but she made the (unsolicited) recommendation of extremely low calories without doing any initial testing to determine what would be an appropriate diet for OP. Maybe after medical testing to determine if the OP has a specific condition, a determination of her RMR, and an analysis of her history and current activity levels, it would turn out that, surprise, 750 calories makes sense for her. I think we are all reacting to the fact that the doctor forced this advice on her, without doing any analysis to determine what an appropriate individualized recommendation would be or any attention to very real potential medical concerns, when OP WAS succeeding with her own efforts on MFP, albeit slowly.
OP, you have such an impressive grasp on the sensible way to deal with this in the face of so much conflicting advice! There's NEVER harm in getting a second opinion. Most good specialists advise their patients to do so.0 -
i hope u find success in your weight loss. the choice is urs. have u been successful losing weight? if what u were doing wasnt work then u should change it. i am surprised when u said "the right way to lose weight" the first thing a person learns on mfp is that there is no one way to lose weight. u have to carve a plan that works 4 u. if u ate a 750cal diet for 30 days u may lose 20 lbs. and be healthy. thats all im saying. also ur doc was right about cardio. cardio gives a person a false sense of security, u have to learn how to eat the right amount to achieve ur desired body weight, i u do cardio to lose weight u never get ur appetite under control. and when u stop cardio ur weight goes back up. DO cardio for health not for weight loss. just my 3 cents
I don't care what number MFP founder came up with. But I do care to heed the advice of SO MANY who have had success losing weight and doing it the right way. My doctor is clueless on this topic and it seems to be her soapbox. She sounded like she's advised/counseled lots of people with this kind of advice because it just started coming out, immediately upon my mentioning 'difficulty losing weight'. She did not want to offer to look at the whole picture, the other symptoms I have, nothing. I was not given any referral to go somewhere else and no followup or anything like that. Just that I should drop down to 750 because I'm short and my metabolism seems to be toast.
hey, i respect ur opinion but i would rather listen doctors then to patients.
Because possibly people who live with a condition she has (or might have) could give her the benefit of experience?
i just get very frustrated when people take this 1200kcal theory as the holy grail of weight loss. its just a number that businessman of a calorie tracking site came up with.0 -
You sound like my doctor.
i hope u find success in your weight loss. the choice is urs. have u been successful losing weight? if what u were doing wasnt work then u should change it. i am surprised when u said "the right way to lose weight" the first thing a person learns on mfp is that there is no one way to lose weight. u have to carve a plan that works 4 u. if u ate a 750cal diet for 30 days u may lose 20 lbs. and be healthy. thats all im saying. also ur doc was right about cardio. cardio gives a person a false sense of security, u have to learn how to eat the right amount to achieve ur desired body weight, i u do cardio to lose weight u never get ur appetite under control. and when u stop cardio ur weight goes back up. DO cardio for health not for weight loss. just my 3 cents
I don't care what number MFP founder came up with. But I do care to heed the advice of SO MANY who have had success losing weight and doing it the right way. My doctor is clueless on this topic and it seems to be her soapbox. She sounded like she's advised/counseled lots of people with this kind of advice because it just started coming out, immediately upon my mentioning 'difficulty losing weight'. She did not want to offer to look at the whole picture, the other symptoms I have, nothing. I was not given any referral to go somewhere else and no followup or anything like that. Just that I should drop down to 750 because I'm short and my metabolism seems to be toast.
hey, i respect ur opinion but i would rather listen doctors then to patients.
Because possibly people who live with a condition she has (or might have) could give her the benefit of experience?
i just get very frustrated when people take this 1200kcal theory as the holy grail of weight loss. its just a number that businessman of a calorie tracking site came up with.
I'm not some 400lb morbidly obese person who has to drastically cut calories to get weight under control because it is for health reasons. I am 143 lb. Overweight, yes. Losing 25lb is my goal..not just a milestone in a long list of goals. There is a difference. I do think there is a healthy way of doing it vs. unhealthy way. And I do think what I'm doing is working but slowly. I wondered about an underlying metabolic condition and there is nothing wrong with getting tested. I would rather know now than when I do become obese. BTW - I do weights and cardio, not just cardio.0 -
True story here...
I went to my doctor in December of 2011. I wasn't losing weight, my monthly cycle had stopped for over a year (fairly normal for me), I was bloated, tired all the time, and just generally "ugh" feeling all the time. My thought was that my thyroid wasn't working since it runs in my family.
His response was that I must not be exercising enough or that I'm eating way too much. That if I'm doing both things, exercising and eating right, I'll lose weight.
I had to convince him to run a thyroid test along with some hormone tests. One of which was a serum pregnancy test.
Well come to find out, I was eating just right and working out just right. I was 8 months pregnant. I lost weight the entire time I was pregnant and had no other symptoms. My doctors told me I wasn't going to get pregnant on my own. Turns out, losing a bit of weight is what helped.
So yes, I do question my doctors and I do advocate for myself. Had I not, I would have been a story on "I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant."
And I do encourage everyone else to do the same.0 -
great good luck!0
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Sorry If this was addressed already, I didn't read all 12 pages. But is your Dr.'s name by chance, Dr. Oz?0
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Does she also own the funeral service in town? cause it sounds to me she is trying to kill you.
Hahaaaaa! I'm sure by now you realize your doctor is trying to get fired. LOL0 -
i had 750 cals for breakfast... i'm not even kidding.
i don't think that's healthy.
IMO you should get advice from a NUTRITIONIST/DIETITIAN...not your doctor.
Got cha beat! 1300.
IMO you should get advice with someone with some sense haha. Because I've met doctors, and I can't remember if it was a dietitian or a nutritionalist...many many many many personal trainers.....who...well....We've all met them...some people just don't have their head on straight, no matter their credentials.0 -
It's not only time to get a new doctor, I'd report that one to your state's medical licensing board.0 -
Okay. Where to start. That is normal blood sugar.I did not go in looking for weightloss advice. It was given freely and in abundance ;-)
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/normal-blood-sugar-levels-for-women.html
Next. People with PCOS seem to work well on low calorie diets.
http://www.fertileheart.com/research/p.rs.obesity.html
Third. Neither matters because your doctor sounds like an idiot. Please seek a new doctor.0 -
Does she also own the funeral service in town? cause it sounds to me she is trying to kill you.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: my thoughts exactly0 -
This is appalling. I wish doctors had more nutrition training in med school to give out advice like that. 1200 is low enough nevermind less than that!!! wow.0
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Did this doctor discuss your blood sugars with you, or just give unsolicited diet advice? My husband has been diabetic for more than forty years. He says normal morning blood sugars can vary between 80 and 120. I'm NOT claiming my husband has a medical degree, but your sugars didn't sound out of line to me, and I'm wondering if you got the help you needed.0
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True story here...
I went to my doctor in December of 2011. I wasn't losing weight, my monthly cycle had stopped for over a year (fairly normal for me), I was bloated, tired all the time, and just generally "ugh" feeling all the time. My thought was that my thyroid wasn't working since it runs in my family.
His response was that I must not be exercising enough or that I'm eating way too much. That if I'm doing both things, exercising and eating right, I'll lose weight.
I had to convince him to run a thyroid test along with some hormone tests. One of which was a serum pregnancy test.
Well come to find out, I was eating just right and working out just right. I was 8 months pregnant. I lost weight the entire time I was pregnant and had no other symptoms. My doctors told me I wasn't going to get pregnant on my own. Turns out, losing a bit of weight is what helped.
So yes, I do question my doctors and I do advocate for myself. Had I not, I would have been a story on "I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant."
And I do encourage everyone else to do the same.
Wouldn't a woman know by that time she's pregnant? I think you're also missing the point. As I said in above post doctors don't have ESP. How would your doctor know if you're pregnant? You where talking about weight loss. If you weren't pregnant and plateaued. What's the problem? You're not in a calorie deficit. So your doctor was right. If you ant to say "well the doctor should have tested me if i was pregnant" if that's the case, your doctor should have tested you for cancer and water retention as well.
The issue is that he didn't take any sort of history or ask what I'm doing as far as eating and exercising. Without asking any further questions, he went into the lecture about losing weight. Had he simply asked, I would have explained my calorie intake and exercise routine.
The hormone levels (which the panel he ordered included the pregnancy test) were because I hadn't had my TOM in over a year, well before I was pregnant.
And no, you're ignorant. I was in school full time, was losing weight most of the time, and didn't have any normal symptoms of pregnancy.
There is NOTHING wrong with standing up for yourself and possibly getting a second opinion.0 -
True story here...
I went to my doctor in December of 2011. I wasn't losing weight, my monthly cycle had stopped for over a year (fairly normal for me), I was bloated, tired all the time, and just generally "ugh" feeling all the time. My thought was that my thyroid wasn't working since it runs in my family.
His response was that I must not be exercising enough or that I'm eating way too much. That if I'm doing both things, exercising and eating right, I'll lose weight.
I had to convince him to run a thyroid test along with some hormone tests. One of which was a serum pregnancy test.
Well come to find out, I was eating just right and working out just right. I was 8 months pregnant. I lost weight the entire time I was pregnant and had no other symptoms. My doctors told me I wasn't going to get pregnant on my own. Turns out, losing a bit of weight is what helped.
So yes, I do question my doctors and I do advocate for myself. Had I not, I would have been a story on "I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant."
And I do encourage everyone else to do the same.
Wouldn't a woman know by that time she's pregnant? I think you're also missing the point. As I said in above post doctors don't have ESP. How would your doctor know if you're pregnant? You where talking about weight loss. If you weren't pregnant and plateaued. What's the problem? You're not in a calorie deficit. So your doctor was right. If you want to say "well the doctor should have tested me for pregnancy" if that's the case, your doctor should have tested you for cancer and water retention as well.
So with what you're saying, I should have said, "yes, doctor, I'm stupid. I must be doing something wrong. I'll try harder." Then, I should have gone and dropped my calories even further and exercised more.
Yes, because doctors are the end all, be all for knowledge.0 -
OK Part of this is BS.
NOW as someone who is 4'11 I can tell you I ate about 900-1200 calories which my doctor said was fine unless i worked out hard, then eat more. BUT i mean if you are eating eggs and veggis and chicken, you can get full on not too much food. So I don't recommend eating 750 but yes us Shorties can survive on a lot less then what normal sized people can.
thats where i stopped reading. im 4'8" and eat 2200 calories a day for maintenence.
get a new dr.0 -
Un. Believable.
This doctor has no clue. NONE. And knows absolutely nothing about PCOS, said this PCOS survivor!
First of all, PCOS is a form of pre-diabetes. Gestational is a symptom.
Second, blood sugars of 98-105 are pretty darn normal.
Third, and most important, weight gain is a symptom. It means that your body doesn't process insulin effectively.
See an ENDOCRINOLOGIST and arm yourself with info first. I recommend www.soulcysters.net.
Precisely!!!0 -
thats where i stopped reading. im 4'8" and eat 2200 calories a day for maintenence.
Bull chit0 -
Does she also own the funeral service in town? cause it sounds to me she is trying to kill you.
LMAO! Right?!0 -
WELLLLL ... I am a gastric bypass patient and the doctor is absolutely correct. When I first had the surgery I existed on about 500 to 750 calories a day ... on a good day, if I didn't throw it up. Plus not all of what stayed down was being absorbed. That's what the gastric bypass is all about ... restricting calories and malabsorption (in the early stages). Of course I gained back some of my weight, but I have now re-lost that weight and am back to my lowest weight after the bypass ... and of course my bypass 'tool' has helped me. Losing weight is about restricting calories ... exercise will HELP, absoutely, but you don't get skinny exercising ... you must force your body to access the fat cells, break them down and utilize the fat for energy. True, your body doesn't like it when you don't feed it enough, but the extremely low calorie diet does work. I don't advise everyone to do it (I don't advise ANYONE to do ANYTHING LOL) ... only your doctor should do that. But obesity carries it's own serious health risks and to get that weight off and get off meds as soon as possible is what the extremely low calorie diet is all about. As for rapidly regaining weight ... that didn't happen to me, it was gradual over a period of years, and I could have stopped it if I had tried. It was my fault, not the diet nor the surgery. If I had worked my pouch (tool) correctly, I would have continued to lose weight back then and not regained the weight ... that is what I am doing now and will continue to do until I reach my original goal weight!0
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