ugh too much protein?

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  • fldiver97
    fldiver97 Posts: 341 Member
    I work out pretty hard, I ran 2.5 miles today burning 311 calories and I was planning on going again later today.
    so pretty much the more meat the better?

    protein from any source.......lean meat, beans, dairy whatever works for you. I did my first 2 weeks on MFPs settings for carbs/protein and fat and was hungry at times and always over my protein. DUH, then I realized that the default setting is only for 15 % protein......I am by no means an athlete but I changed my settings to 40 carbs, 30 fat and 30 protein. I often don't hit my macros as far as being a tad over on carbs, often a tad under on fat and a little under on protein. But I feel full!!!!! I often have to fit in an extra snack to meet my calories or get close to the goal. I don't want a crash diet, too may restrictions or learn yet more bad eating habits by eating really low cal. I have an occasional day where I go over my calories but the majority of the times I am at least a little bit under. Now before anyone screams that you have to eat a minimum # of calories and that you should eat your exercise calories back........I generally try to eat enough calories but there are days when I just can not eat more because I feel stuffed. Paly with your settings, make sure you get a lot of protein, fiber and healthy fats and you will not feel deprived/hungry. JMHO
  • geekyjock76
    geekyjock76 Posts: 2,720 Member
    Body will not absorb more then 30 g (approx) of protein per meal, if you eat more it will just get flushed out.
    Myth. Check out how much protein in one meal these elderly women were consuming and notice the pulse group had a much higher nitrogen balance and retention rate than the spread group.

    Elderly women with a LBM between 31.7 to 45kg were eating 1.7 grams x LBM kg a day. The pulse group ate 80% of their daily protein in a single meal. So the women were consuming between 42 to 61 grams of protein in that single meal.

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/69/6/1202.long#T3
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I gotta say... We don't really need as much protein as we think. I know I'm starting a s*&t storm. Sorry. MFP suggests roughly 15% of calories be from protein. FOK suggests no more than 10%. I lost a LOT of weight in the 90s with a high protein diet but ended up with some issues from it.
    http://www.forksoverknives.com/meeting-protein-needs-simply-by-eating/

    This is true. It is not a popular statement here, but it is true!

    If I were veg*n, I would want to believe this too. It would be difficult enough getting to 10% protein
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    I gotta say... We don't really need as much protein as we think. I know I'm starting a s*&t storm. Sorry. MFP suggests roughly 15% of calories be from protein. FOK suggests no more than 10%. I lost a LOT of weight in the 90s with a high protein diet but ended up with some issues from it.
    http://www.forksoverknives.com/meeting-protein-needs-simply-by-eating/

    This is true. It is not a popular statement here, but it is true!

    Can you share why you think this is true please? I'd like to hear both sides to this issue.
  • LauraDotts
    LauraDotts Posts: 732 Member
    The protein amounts set by MFP are a MINIMUM goal not a maximum goal.
  • deb3129
    deb3129 Posts: 1,294 Member
    There is a ton of research that shows this. I did a lot of research before I went vegan, because you hear so much concern about people not getting enough protein. What I have learned is that I don't really have to make a huge effort to get enough protein. I eat nothing but plants for the most part. While they have per serving a lower amount of protein than meat, there is protein in all of them, and I eat a TON. It adds up, and I get pretty much exactly what I need without extra effort. The recommendations for a woman my age is around 45g per day, and that is usually right where I am at. I have lost 106 pounds since switching to plant foods. I get a lot of negativity from people who hear that I am vegan, so at my physical last week, I discussed this with my doctor and asked for him to do a lot of bloodwork. What is showed is that I am way healthier than I was a year ago, and all of my numbers are dead center in the normal range, including my protein. The following is copied from the CDC wesbite, but the heart assocation, diabetes foundation, etc agree.
  • simonkurth
    simonkurth Posts: 395 Member
    I eat 200 plus grams per day. Feel great. Your body burns extra calories processing protein. A calorie is not a calorie. Check out the smarter science of slim web site.
  • wedgylx
    wedgylx Posts: 3 Member
    Body will not absorb more then 30 g (approx) of protein per meal, if you eat more it will just get flushed out.

    People love throwing this number around even though there's no evidence to support it
  • wedgylx
    wedgylx Posts: 3 Member
    The human body was created through thousands upon thousands of years living the hunter gatherer lifestyle. Obesity is an epidemic that only began when we began eating copius amounts of processed carbohydrates.

    So thousands upon thousands of years we lived on meat, vegetables, fruit, and maybe small amounts of dairy depending on your culture. Mimick this with your food selection, stay close to the caloric suggestions and you'll get awesome results
  • wedgylx
    wedgylx Posts: 3 Member
    Lastly, as a personal trainer, my clients who are vegan or vegetarian do not get anywhere near the results of those eating a "normal" diet.

    If you're making the switch for personal reasons - more power to you - but if you think switching to vegetarian/vegan diets will help you lose weight or become healthier, it simply isn't true.
  • wesl3y60
    wesl3y60 Posts: 31 Member
    Thanks for all the help guys! I guess I'll go play with the settings more to figure this out. Good luck and congrats on being fit everyone!
  • wesl3y60
    wesl3y60 Posts: 31 Member
    yes, by the way I am switching for personal reasons. When I switched to no meat I thought that my body would become healthier and I would feel amazing when in fact it did the opposite.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    There is a ton of research that shows this. I did a lot of research before I went vegan, because you hear so much concern about people not getting enough protein. What I have learned is that I don't really have to make a huge effort to get enough protein. I eat nothing but plants for the most part. While they have per serving a lower amount of protein than meat, there is protein in all of them, and I eat a TON. It adds up, and I get pretty much exactly what I need without extra effort. The recommendations for a woman my age is around 45g per day, and that is usually right where I am at. I have lost 106 pounds since switching to plant foods. I get a lot of negativity from people who hear that I am vegan, so at my physical last week, I discussed this with my doctor and asked for him to do a lot of bloodwork. What is showed is that I am way healthier than I was a year ago, and all of my numbers are dead center in the normal range, including my protein. The following is copied from the CDC wesbite, but the heart assocation, diabetes foundation, etc agree.

    Thanks Deb.
  • mizzie1980
    mizzie1980 Posts: 379 Member
    Yeah, don't worry about it. I figure, fat, carbs and sodium, I try to keep under what MFP suggests. But protein and fiber? Bring them on! Can't have too much.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    Wha?!? Forks Over Knives isn't an unbiased documentary but is instead veg*n propaganda?

    Who knew?

    Look, just because what I said was completely obvious...well ok it was completely obvious =)
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    There is a ton of research that shows this. I did a lot of research before I went vegan, because you hear so much concern about people not getting enough protein. What I have learned is that I don't really have to make a huge effort to get enough protein. I eat nothing but plants for the most part. While they have per serving a lower amount of protein than meat, there is protein in all of them, and I eat a TON. It adds up, and I get pretty much exactly what I need without extra effort. The recommendations for a woman my age is around 45g per day, and that is usually right where I am at. I have lost 106 pounds since switching to plant foods. I get a lot of negativity from people who hear that I am vegan, so at my physical last week, I discussed this with my doctor and asked for him to do a lot of bloodwork. What is showed is that I am way healthier than I was a year ago, and all of my numbers are dead center in the normal range, including my protein. The following is copied from the CDC wesbite, but the heart assocation, diabetes foundation, etc agree.

    I shoot for 200-250g per day. 45g is less than what's in a single protein shake.
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    I shoot for 200-250g per day. 45g is less than what's in a single protein shake.

    Hope you have a living will
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I shoot for 200-250g per day. 45g is less than what's in a single protein shake.

    Hope you have a living will

    Gotta go somehow. Sounds like a better way to go than being crushed by a ton of "research".
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    I shoot for 200-250g per day. 45g is less than what's in a single protein shake.

    Hope you have a living will

    With the life insurance I get through work, my wife will be very well off when I kick the bucket...

    ...damn now I know why she's always offering to make me shakes and cook me steaks!!!
  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
    Body will not absorb more then 30 g (approx) of protein per meal, if you eat more it will just get flushed out.

    This is incorrect. Please don't post crap like that.
    thanks for telling the person that!
  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
    Body will not absorb more then 30 g (approx) of protein per meal, if you eat more it will just get flushed out.

    By way, while in theory that is true... it doesn't hold up in practice... most proteins are slow digesting so you wont be trying to absorb 30g or what ever is limit all at once... just sayin....
    what does get get flushed out mean?
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Body will not absorb more then 30 g (approx) of protein per meal, if you eat more it will just get flushed out.

    By way, while in theory that is true... it doesn't hold up in practice... most proteins are slow digesting so you wont be trying to absorb 30g or what ever is limit all at once... just sayin....
    what does get get flushed out mean?

    Not sure, but if it were true*, then it would be the most popular diet in the history of ever. Seriously, just think about the implications of all protein you consume in a meal above 30g being "flushed out," presumably with the calories associated with it...all 4 cal/g.


    *Just so we're clear, it's not.
  • stbrad6896
    stbrad6896 Posts: 135
    it always tells me I eat too much protein. I just ignore it.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    it always tells me I eat too much protein. I just ignore it.


    (You do know you can adjust that, right? I mean, if you're one of those people who don't like the red numbers.)
  • Graceious1
    Graceious1 Posts: 716 Member
    Too much protein? I did an hour of martial arts yester and had over 1000 cals left. My body was screaming for protein so I bought some ribs and devoured them. Nice!
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Too much protein? I did an hour of martial arts yester and had over 1000 cals left. My body was screaming for protein so I bought some ribs and devoured them. Nice!


    *APPROVED!*
  • bradwwood
    bradwwood Posts: 371 Member
    I actually just finished some research to determine if too much protein is harmful. My conclusion is that there are no known negative side effects from too much protein.

    So, if you've had plenty of protein for the day, it probably doesn't make sense to waste your money on a protein shake, but if throughout the course of the day your intake ends up being well over what MFP suggests, you are good to go.
  • bradwwood
    bradwwood Posts: 371 Member
    it always tells me I eat too much protein. I just ignore it.


    (You do know you can adjust that, right? I mean, if you're one of those people who don't like the red numbers.)

    no, where? please and thanks :D
  • VictoriaWorksOut
    VictoriaWorksOut Posts: 195 Member
    Body will not absorb more then 30 g (approx) of protein per meal, if you eat more it will just get flushed out.
    pls verify ur info :)

    Here you go - summary and links -
    Highlights -
    From Mens Health - Drink eight to 10 glasses of water a day and divide your protein among five or six small meals throughout the day. "Eating an average of 25 to 30 grams each meal is ideal," says Lischin. "Not only will you put less stress on your kidneys, but you'll also utilize more of the protein you're ingesting by giving your body only as much as it can use each time."

    Read more: http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/eliminate_workout_saboteurs/Thirst.php#ixzz24ZsFurs0


    Body can absorb about 30g of protein per sitting

    How much protein body can absorb?

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/502182-how-much-protein-in-a-meal-can-be-used-by-the-body/

    The 30-Gram Rule

    While how much protein you absorb can depend upon a number of factors, the generally accepted theory is that the body can take in about 30 g of protein in one sitting, according to Tom Venuto, an author and NSCA-certified personal trainer. This is why many bodybuilders and athletes break up their daily protein intake into several small meals per day. While it is possible your body may digest slightly more protein per serving, the 30 g is a general guideline.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Body will not absorb more then 30 g (approx) of protein per meal, if you eat more it will just get flushed out.
    pls verify ur info :)

    Here you go - summary and links -
    Highlights -
    From Mens Health - Drink eight to 10 glasses of water a day and divide your protein among five or six small meals throughout the day. "Eating an average of 25 to 30 grams each meal is ideal," says Lischin. "Not only will you put less stress on your kidneys, but you'll also utilize more of the protein you're ingesting by giving your body only as much as it can use each time."

    Read more: http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/eliminate_workout_saboteurs/Thirst.php#ixzz24ZsFurs0


    Body can absorb about 30g of protein per sitting

    How much protein body can absorb?

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/502182-how-much-protein-in-a-meal-can-be-used-by-the-body/

    The 30-Gram Rule

    While how much protein you absorb can depend upon a number of factors, the generally accepted theory is that the body can take in about 30 g of protein in one sitting, according to Tom Venuto, an author and NSCA-certified personal trainer. This is why many bodybuilders and athletes break up their daily protein intake into several small meals per day. While it is possible your body may digest slightly more protein per serving, the 30 g is a general guideline.


    Your sources are an article in Men's Health and a post on Livestrong?

    (And I won't even mention the perpetuation of the 8+ glasses of water myth...oh wait, I guess I just did.)

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