Irritation: Clueless people who need to add their 2 cents
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I read this thread with the intention of ridiculing yet another hypocritical/ironic/irrational rant, but I'm mostly supportive of this one.
(Yeah yeah, some people have made some good points, like how these people in your life have any idea what you are or aren't doing, but I'm going to overlook those minute details and stick with my general support.)
So anyhow...
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You completely read my post wrong. It has absolutely nothing to do with people on this site. It has to do with people in real life...I know where you're coming from but, remember that you are posting your business out here and people will have different opinions on what you post. This happens even if they don't have a clue, and often, these opinions are based on that person's knowledge of the subject. Therefore, if you don't want people to say anything about what you're doing, simply remove yourself from this site.
Just remove yourself from real life... problem solved!
Sorry, I couldn't resist. I in no way endorse removing one's self from real life.0 -
#1 doesn't have to do with tracking, obviously. But for 2, it's been when I've used the app on my phone and they've seen me tracking. So, basically, just butting in and commenting on what I'm doing when I never asked.
Well, with the exception of #3, the other two are not due to me saying anything. They are unsolicited comments.Stop talking to people about what you're doing. Problem solved.
how do people know you're tracking if you don't say anything?
Well.... I support 1 and 3, but #2..... I think it depends a little on how "obvious" your logging is. Like, if you are at dinner with a friend and you whip out your phone to log, well, that's kinda uncool because you are supposed to be spending time with your friend. If you aren't eating with someone, but in the breakroom at work logging lunch, well they can stuff it. If you are going to go out to eat with a friend, pre-log what you're going to order.
It absolutely INFURIATES me when someone is using their phone in any way, shape, or form when they are having dinner with me and should be giving their undivded attention to the people physically present. There's an app for it. Its called Respect!0 -
Wow... Yeah, with #1, it's generally people here at work who say stuff. And they just say it when they see me. It has nothing to do with me talking about working out, eating habits or anything else. They just see me. My family says stuff, but they don't see me all that often, so, for the most part, their comments aren't bad, which is nice. My brother said one that was really nice "Hey... There's a lot less of you." lol I know a lot of people who have families who try to sabotage them.Oh girl...How i know you're pain!!!!!! Toooooo Well. It's friends, and family. Snubby remarks etc. I was at a market, the woman tried to force her biscuits onto me...i told her no thank you, i don't eat those types of foods i get physically ill (gluten sensitive) she carried on until i was forced to tell her, please i don't want your stuff, i'm sensitive to gluten...When i saw her at another market the guy next to her was selling breads and croissants...I replied no thank you while walking past, when i heard her snubbing me and saying to the guy...She doesn't eat our food, she's on a diet...WTF??? I never even said anything about diet...but yes i'm on a healthy eating plan for my whole life!!! Holy crap you get some weird people, not to mention the 'oh hello skinny girl, now don't you go pick up all that weight now again you hear???' Or your sister in law rocks up with a chocolate cake as your birthday 'gift', after her husband told her, i'm pretty sure she can't have that but she insists...The same for me tracking my food, or watching what i eat etc...i feel your pain.0 -
Jerk friend is going to say the same thing, she isn't really lifting "heavy" because she can't squat 400 lbs. There is almost no way to win an argument with an idiot.Lift heavy, then show your *friend* picture proof of how "bulky" you are, then tell him to kiss your muscled behind since he is so WRONG.
You could say you have a protein deficiency and you need to track food for health purposes. Totally true, most people back off when you get all medical on them but I see it didn't work for the gluten allergy poster above. Though I think a lot of people don't believe that is a real thing.0 -
Bahahaha!!!! :drinker:
You completely read my post wrong. It has absolutely nothing to do with people on this site. It has to do with people in real life...I know where you're coming from but, remember that you are posting your business out here and people will have different opinions on what you post. This happens even if they don't have a clue, and often, these opinions are based on that person's knowledge of the subject. Therefore, if you don't want people to say anything about what you're doing, simply remove yourself from this site.
Just remove yourself from real life... problem solved!
Sorry, I couldn't resist. I in no way endorse removing one's self from real life.0 -
#1 doesn't have to do with tracking, obviously. But for 2, it's been when I've used the app on my phone and they've seen me tracking. So, basically, just butting in and commenting on what I'm doing when I never asked.
Well, with the exception of #3, the other two are not due to me saying anything. They are unsolicited comments.Stop talking to people about what you're doing. Problem solved.
how do people know you're tracking if you don't say anything?
My suggestion: If they are looking over your shoulder and reading your screen, you may tell them that they are rude. It will keep them from doing it again. Or you could just not take out your phone when your around your friends and track stuff later, though it could be hard to remember. I would personally tell the people that they are being rude by looking at my phone screen. What I'm doing with my phone, is none of their business.0 -
I can relate to what you're saying here. It is rude... The particular instance I was thinking about, it was my former neighbor, me & another friend, at the bar, grabbing dinner and a few drinks. We were all 3 on our phones, so, really, to me, my logging wasn't any different than him playing on Facebook. Shrug...
#1 doesn't have to do with tracking, obviously. But for 2, it's been when I've used the app on my phone and they've seen me tracking. So, basically, just butting in and commenting on what I'm doing when I never asked.
Well, with the exception of #3, the other two are not due to me saying anything. They are unsolicited comments.Stop talking to people about what you're doing. Problem solved.
how do people know you're tracking if you don't say anything?
Well.... I support 1 and 3, but #2..... I think it depends a little on how "obvious" your logging is. Like, if you are at dinner with a friend and you whip out your phone to log, well, that's kinda uncool because you are supposed to be spending time with your friend. If you aren't eating with someone, but in the breakroom at work logging lunch, well they can stuff it. If you are going to go out to eat with a friend, pre-log what you're going to order.
It absolutely INFURIATES me when someone is using their phone in any way, shape, or form when they are having dinner with me and should be giving their undivded attention to the people physically present. There's an app for it. Its called Respect!0 -
I can relate to what you're saying here. It is rude... The particular instance I was thinking about, it was my former neighbor, me & another friend, at the bar, grabbing dinner and a few drinks. We were all 3 on our phones, so, really, to me, my logging wasn't any different than him playing on Facebook. Shrug...
Agreed. No difference. In which case, the friend neighbor what-have-you can shove it.0 -
lol at # 3
your buddy apparently has never picked up a weight in his life.
kind of on a similair topic, i suggested to my sister in law who is very over weight that weight lifting would probably be the easiest and most effective form of exercise for her. She said that it wouldn't work and that she wanted to lose her stomach... and that meant that she had to do crunches. I just told her that wasn't true and blah blah, but i didn't go much into it because of something like # 1 i guess lol. you never know when you cross the line from helpful info into pain in the *kitten*... even when your already in a conversation like that.0 -
oh, and they have that bowflex machine that folds up and can fit under your bed. that might be good for you.
its not the same as lifting free weights but its better then nothing and you should be able to lift as heavy as you want to0 -
Totally agree with all
# 1: People don't know your goals and motivations. Sure its easy to figure out what they are when you are fat and overweight, but when you are slim people are confused. This goes back to the basic concept though that everybody knows how to do nothing, some know how to lose weight, very few know how to maintain (different than doing nothing and hoping you maintain). The vast majority of people that have the whole losing thing figured out have no idea of how to maintain and will backslide because of it. Kudos for taking that step and maintaining, it is fundamentally different than losing, learning to maintain is the skill one needs to keep it off.
# 2: The 2 mintues a day spent logging is totally a sign of overobsessive behaviour. I mean, you are missing 3-4 tries at getting 3 stars in angry birds, or an extra 25 facebook/twitter posts read. How dare you obsess. Most people fail to grasp how easy it is to long and keep track of things unless they do it. Once you've been at it a while you should be very fast with MFP. The whole song and dance with almost all diet plans about how you don't have to kill yourself tracking calories, I guess preying on the average publics 1st grade level math skills and total fear of math, is much too prevalent. People think that tracking is hard, or time consuming, for some reason. MFP takes virtually no time, and assuming you are using the smartphone app, can be done at your convenience.
#3: Most men don't know how to build muscles either. The average man doesn't know any more than the average woman. What most men do have that women seem to lack at the outset is the willingness to go 100% balls to the wall and work to failure, and a generally unwillingness to admit they are know-nothings on the subject. Most women have to learn to work to failure (or close), and will readily admit to being know-nothings.0 -
Everyone is an expert. I read recently that the internet provides us with a lot of information but not very much real knowledge.
I hear the "obsessive" comment in other contexts as well. In particular, because I have a number of alcoholics close to me, I often hear "they just replaced drinking with going to meetings." This may or may not be true, but going to meetings is a lot less destructive than spending the same number of hours staring at the bottom of a glass. I think the same applies to logging our food. At first when I got here it felt a little obsessive to log everything but I quickly learned that when I logged I was learning about portion control (and pre-logging a whole day helps me most off all). Better I obsess about logging food than spending an hour in a yoga class obsessing about donuts.
You know what's best for you. Stick with it.0 -
I am TRYING my DARNDEST to get bulky. But unless I flex in the perfect light, I look like I am just VERY skinny lol.
Max reps are 10 @ a low weight so I warm up before I kick my butt with my 2-3 rep maxes. Lastly my 1 rep max @ 130. Tell your man friend he's a doof.0 -
I also had to learn to not tell my friends what I am doing anymore....especially maintaining a healthy diet....everyone thinks I am crazy....and somehow starving myself.....which is odd due to the fact that I eat A LOT more than they do....I just choose not to eat pizza and hamburgers. Apparently During "lunch break", me having 2 lbs of food (ground turkey, rice, veggies) vs their burger and fries makes me anorexic. Makes TOTAL sense.0
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Thanks, everyone, for your great responses.
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Im one of these people who should keep her mouth shut0
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Well, with the exception of #3, the other two are not due to me saying anything. They are unsolicited comments.Stop talking to people about what you're doing. Problem solved.
how do people know you're tracking if you don't say anything?
Hmmmm
When they see me on my phone after I eat or before I eat to check calorie consumption... Or are we suppose to be anti social and when someone asks yell at them and tell them NOT TO ASK STUPID QUESTIONS or just ignore them
It comes up all the time...0 -
I nominate this post for the most sensible, reasonable rant, evar.0
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Everyone is an expert. I read recently that the internet provides us with a lot of information but not very much real knowledge.
I hear the "obsessive" comment in other contexts as well. In particular, because I have a number of alcoholics close to me, I often hear "they just replaced drinking with going to meetings." This may or may not be true, but going to meetings is a lot less destructive than spending the same number of hours staring at the bottom of a glass. I think the same applies to logging our food. At first when I got here it felt a little obsessive to log everything but I quickly learned that when I logged I was learning about portion control (and pre-logging a whole day helps me most off all). Better I obsess about logging food than spending an hour in a yoga class obsessing about donuts.
You know what's best for you. Stick with it.
I'd rather obsessively log everything I eat for the rest of my life than to keep being fat.0 -
In that case, what I do is I don't feed their fire. Meaning, that if they have a comment about what you should or should not do, let them come up with their own conclusions and if they ask you a question, vaguely answer it. This usually works and they usually get the hint.0
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AMEN!!!0
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can i get a coles notes version?
all i all its a weightloss site and everyone on here knows more than the next person and loosing 5lbs basically qualifies you as a nutricionist/doctor on this site.
I myself delete those hooligans and keep my list to people who want and try to help without advising me how to live my life0 -
If you don't want to read the original post, it's probably best to not comment. I was talking about people in real life, not people online. FYIcan i get a coles notes version?
all i all its a weightloss site and everyone on here knows more than the next person and loosing 5lbs basically qualifies you as a nutricionist/doctor on this site.
I myself delete those hooligans and keep my list to people who want and try to help without advising me how to live my life0 -
i like this rant a lot!0
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People tell you to stop tracking once you meet your goal? Why? So you can gain it all back again? Ignore the idiots and just do your thing. It's what I do. I've been on maintenance for a year and a half and I still keep track. It's just a habit now, it's pretty easy, and it helps me make sure I'm getting proper nutrition and staying right where I need to be. :drinker:0
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For 1 & 2 - just ignore them (as in pretend they didn't speak...I'm real good at this).
Number 3...IDK - he's beyond stupid; do what ya want...and just nod your head like you hear him speaking...then ignore what he said and do what you want. :bigsmile:0 -
If you don't want to read the original post, it's probably best to not comment. I was talking about people in real life, not people online. FYIcan i get a coles notes version?
all i all its a weightloss site and everyone on here knows more than the next person and loosing 5lbs basically qualifies you as a nutricionist/doctor on this site.
I myself delete those hooligans and keep my list to people who want and try to help without advising me how to live my life
I it was a joke. 2 It happens everywhere everyone knows better than the next person thanks to dr Oz or whom ever is the big thing at that time
3 maybe being a little less snarky? just an idea?0 -
Thanks, everyone, for your great responses.
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OMG, I LOVE THIS PICTURE!
And great rant!0
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