Protein help! 1 gram/lb seems impossible!
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it's called whey.
this!
i can get about 100g to 110g per day without trying too hard, and then i top that up with a protein shake (extra 24g) on training days.
i am a meat eater though, so i cant really help with food ideas, as i would say:
ham
chicken
white fish (low cal)
tuna/salmon (higher cal)
prawns
fat free greek yoghurt
cottage cheese
milk
turkey
steak
cheese
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What is wrong with using protein shakes?0
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Annual bloodwork will show this. I have averaged somewhere between 150-250g/day for the last year (at ~130-140 lbs) with 0 issue. This is something that you should ABSOLUTELY be having checked at your annual physical every year anyway. It would take a truly ludicrous amount of protein intake to see any issues in someone with otherwise intact kidney function, and for people with poor kidney function there are almost always bigger issues than protein intake to address first, e.g. adequate fluid intake.Honestly 1g/lb isn't bad.. I am about 135lbs and today I've had about 189g of protein without issue
How do you know it was without issue? How can tell whether this much protein is slowly damaging your kidneys?
what he said.
Does no one actually READ my posts before commenting?
I have actually lost faith in the intelligence of this board the amount of idiots that reply to my posts without reading anything AT ALL!
Annual blood work? Oh wait, no... I NEVER mentioned 2-6 maybe more times I get tested a year now did I? Noooo not at all!
Will you people actually read the posts your quoting and see where they are from instead of selective reading in which you miss key information! What is wrong with you people, cant you read?
Chill pills are quite good.0 -
I'm a vegetarian (I eat fish occasionally)
That makes it pretty tough to hit macros solely through whole food. Can you eat fish more than occassionally?
One can of tuna in water is ~200 calories and ~40 grams of protein. Four cans of tuna is 800 calories and 160 grams of protein. I don't personally have a problem eating a crapload of one thing as my food for the day, though some people do so ymmv with that. 4 cans of tuna, 2 cups of egg whites, and russian dressing is a pretty common meal for me.
Barring that I think your best bet is protein shakes.0 -
I always thought that it was 0.8 -1 gram per pound of *lean body mass,* not total body weight? Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
It is. Unless you're bulking.0 -
Egg whites for breakfast EVERY DAY! So low calorie and all they are is protein. Throw some veggies and seasoning in there and you've got yummy, protein filled, low cal breakfast!
Quest bars are also delicious. Stick them in a microwave for 20 seconds or so and you've got what tastes like a fresh baked cookie but has 20 g of protein
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Man these are some of the least helpful answers ever!! I do think the answers regarding lean body mass are correct. I'm also a vegetarian who eats fish and seafood occasionally. I am approx 126 lbs and try to eat between 80 and 100 grams of protein daily. The things that seem to help me are:
1. Eating either eggs or protein powder with breakfast (I use a rice protein that I like)
2. Eating cheese, cottage cheese, and greek yogurt for snacks.
If I have eggs for breakfast sometimes I'll have a protein shake as a snack. I eat regular lunches/dinners and don't worry about having a ****load of protein in those.
ha ha, i was thinking the same thing!
'just eat meat'? though correct, that's not really helpful!
i use protein supplements - i do herbalife and they have a good protein powder, so i have two serves of that with my breakfast smoothie, i have a veggie burger and some cheese with my lunch, and i have something with beans of a veggie burger or something like that for dinner. for snacks i have yoghurt, protein bars (either herbalife ones or low carb ones from the supermarket - they tend to be lower calorie than the post-workout type ones), little packs of nuts, roasted chick peas or fava beans, or little tins of beans.
i usually get around 100g of protein each day.0 -
saving for later ~ need some help with this as well!!0
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Two things:
1. The protein requirements are blown totally out of proportion. Most people's bodies cannot process more than approx. 120g protein a day, and even that is for a very fit, elite athlete.
2. You cannot compare the protein content of a vegetable based source to a meat-based source. Your average serving of beef or chicken contains approx. 25g protein per serving. An equivalent amount of beans, seeds, or nuts, only contains about 10.0 -
Two things:
1. The protein requirements are blown totally out of proportion. Most people's bodies cannot process more than approx. 120g protein a day, and even that is for a very fit, elite athlete.
2. You cannot compare the protein content of a vegetable based source to a meat-based source. Your average serving of beef or chicken contains approx. 25g protein per serving. An equivalent amount of beans, seeds, or nuts, only contains about 10.
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Pray tell, where does the protein go?0 -
Two things:
1. The protein requirements are blown totally out of proportion. Most people's bodies cannot process more than approx. 120g protein a day, and even that is for a very fit, elite athlete.
2. You cannot compare the protein content of a vegetable based source to a meat-based source. Your average serving of beef or chicken contains approx. 25g protein per serving. An equivalent amount of beans, seeds, or nuts, only contains about 10.
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Pray tell, where do the protein go?
maybe out of the poop hole? :laugh:0 -
Two things:
1. The protein requirements are blown totally out of proportion. Most people's bodies cannot process more than approx. 120g protein a day, and even that is for a very fit, elite athlete.
2. You cannot compare the protein content of a vegetable based source to a meat-based source. Your average serving of beef or chicken contains approx. 25g protein per serving. An equivalent amount of beans, seeds, or nuts, only contains about 10.
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Pray tell, where do the protein go?
maybe out of the poop hole? :laugh:
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As an experienced bodybuilder, I can tell you that 0.36g/lb of body weight would see me losing lean body mass, hand over fist.
I'm sure I do poop someout tho, but not much.0 -
OP, I make a point of eating meat with every meal, and I keep peanuts at my desk at work. Sometimes I have a protein bar for lunch at work in lieu of meat. (depending on what I have available) As long as I do that, I never have any trouble getting protein in. I aim for a minimum of 72 grams and often get close to 100 grams.
Since you are a vegetarian, I highly recommend hemp seeds. When I was eating them on a regular basis, it bumped up my protein by 30 grams a day. They are easy to add to salads and such and contain all the EFAs. Spinach also has good protein count, so do eggs and dairy, if you can eat those.0 -
Two things:
1. The protein requirements are blown totally out of proportion. Most people's bodies cannot process more than approx. 120g protein a day, and even that is for a very fit, elite athlete.
2. You cannot compare the protein content of a vegetable based source to a meat-based source. Your average serving of beef or chicken contains approx. 25g protein per serving. An equivalent amount of beans, seeds, or nuts, only contains about 10.
I'm curious what fit, elite athlete's you're referring to that cap out at 120 grams of protein a day.0 -
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Cook 4-6lbs of chicken breast on sunday.
Thats lunch every day.
Mix it in salads or on bread or with rice or with sweet potato.
I normally will eat 12oz every day for lunch.
Thats about 100g protein.0 -
beans (raw soybeans excluded) and nuts are pathetic sources of protein...
Here's how I eat 225-250g of protein every day without supplements.
PBJ (or 2) for breakfast, 4-6 oz of meat around 10 AM, 6-8 oz of meat for lunch, 4-6 oz. mid afternoon, 6-12 oz for dinner, and some dairy after dinner (yogurt/milk/ice cream).
I eat fish, chicken, pork, and beef mainly for my meats.
Very helpful for the vegetarian :noway:0 -
As an experienced bodybuilder, I can tell you that 0.36g/lb of body weight would see me losing lean body mass, hand over fist.
I'm sure I do poop someout tho, but not much.
That's just rubbish. Since I know you've probably never tried eating that little, I'm betting your "evidence" is losing LBM at a MUCH higher protein intake...;)0 -
Hi All,
So everywhere I look, it says that people should be aiming to eat 1 gram of protein for every pound of their body weight. That means I should be eating approx. 150 grams of protein a day!!! This seems to come up more and more for people looking to lose the last 10-15 lbs (which I am).
I'm a vegetarian (I eat fish occasionally), and I'm careful to eat protein with almost every meal (beans, tofu, greek yogurt, eggs, fish, quinoa etc.), but I'm lucky if I can hit 80 grams in a day, and that's only on days when I have a high protein vegan shake for breakfast (approx. 30 grams of protein). Without the high protein shake (days where I generally have greek yogurt and high fiber cereal), I usually hover somewhere between 40-60 grams a day.
How in the world does someone eat 150 grams of protein in one day!!! Does that guideline even make sense for someone who doens't eat meat? What should I do?
Can anyone make any suggestions? Help from vegetarians AND non-vegetarians would be appreciated.
Thanks
Start looking at the grams of protein per 100g/ percentage of protein/ how much of the calories come from protein and how much from fat or carbs - fish, nuts, seeds and hard cheese are rich in protein, some low fat soft cheeses are not too bad. But you have to eat a crazy amount of Greek yoghurt to get a decent amount because it's mostly water, most beans and lentils are relatively light on protein, you would do better viewing these as a carbohydrate source.
Oily fish is a great source of long chain omega-3s which play a key role in both health and weight management - maybe eat some more often? If you don't wish to do this start eating more seeds rich in short chain oemga-3s, ground flax and pumpkin for example. Bear in mind the conversion from short chain to the useable long chain format can be as low as 10% (tho is usually higher in those who eat healthy). Obviously either the fish or the seeds will supply you with protein.0 -
Um, no. It was a question. I'm not sure why a question would need backing up. Unless you were in the study, study results won't answer my question. But the lack of an answer pretty much answers it.
Very cute but you know very well the proof source requested was for your assertion that Zangpakto's protein could cause kidney issues. Based on the subsequent study that was posted and in light of the fact you have posted nothing to indicate otherwise, it's clear you were wrong. Very simple.
No, not really. I never suggested the poster's diet could cause kidney issues for them. I only suggested that for some people eating very high protein, especially more grams of protein the total body weight in lbs, has the potential to cause kidney issues and ask how he knew it wasn't for him. At which time his panties went into an immediate wad.
And I wasn't wrong. Not everyone could safely eat that amount of protein. And I believe you all probably know that.0 -
beans (raw soybeans excluded) and nuts are pathetic sources of protein...
Here's how I eat 225-250g of protein every day without supplements.
PBJ (or 2) for breakfast, 4-6 oz of meat around 10 AM, 6-8 oz of meat for lunch, 4-6 oz. mid afternoon, 6-12 oz for dinner, and some dairy after dinner (yogurt/milk/ice cream).
I eat fish, chicken, pork, and beef mainly for my meats.
Very helpful for the vegetarian :noway:
Non vegetarians are reading this thread as well...0 -
Um, no. It was a question. I'm not sure why a question would need backing up. Unless you were in the study, study results won't answer my question. But the lack of an answer pretty much answers it.
Very cute but you know very well the proof source requested was for your assertion that Zangpakto's protein could cause kidney issues. Based on the subsequent study that was posted and in light of the fact you have posted nothing to indicate otherwise, it's clear you were wrong. Very simple.
No, not really. I never suggested the poster's diet could cause kidney issues for them. I only suggested that for some people eating very high protein, especially more grams of protein the total body weight in lbs, has the potential to cause kidney issues and ask how he knew it wasn't for him. At which time his panties went into an immediate wad.
And I wasn't wrong. Not everyone could safely eat that amount of protein. And I believe you all probably know that.
Dietary protein intake and renal function. Nutrition & Metabolism 2005, 2:25 doi:10.1186/1743-7075-2-25
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/25Conclusion
Although excessive protein intake remains a health concern in individuals with pre-existing renal disease, the literature lacks significant research demonstrating a link between protein intake and the initiation or progression of renal disease in healthy individuals. More importantly, evidence suggests that protein-induced changes in renal function are likely a normal adaptative mechanism well within the functional limits of a healthy kidney. Without question, long-term studies are needed to clarify the scant evidence currently available regarding this relationship. At present, there is not sufficient proof to warrant public health directives aimed at restricting dietary protein intake in healthy adults for the purpose of preserving renal function.[0 -
It would be vary hard for me too if I didn't eat meat. The protein sources you mentioned: beans, tofu, greek yogurt, eggs, fish, quinoa, are great but they all come with carbs.
My suggestions is to increase the eggs and fish, add some dairy if you are not sensitive and whey or other protein powder.0 -
more meat, less carbs. and more FISH!0
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Like others have said, its off of LBM; fat doesn't need protein, your muscles do.
Also 1g/lb is an overestimation, don't worry too much if you're below it.0 -
Um, no. It was a question. I'm not sure why a question would need backing up. Unless you were in the study, study results won't answer my question. But the lack of an answer pretty much answers it.
Very cute but you know very well the proof source requested was for your assertion that Zangpakto's protein could cause kidney issues. Based on the subsequent study that was posted and in light of the fact you have posted nothing to indicate otherwise, it's clear you were wrong. Very simple.
No, not really. I never suggested the poster's diet could cause kidney issues for them. I only suggested that for some people eating very high protein, especially more grams of protein the total body weight in lbs, has the potential to cause kidney issues and ask how he knew it wasn't for him. At which time his panties went into an immediate wad.
And I wasn't wrong. Not everyone could safely eat that amount of protein. And I believe you all probably know that.
Dietary protein intake and renal function. Nutrition & Metabolism 2005, 2:25 doi:10.1186/1743-7075-2-25
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/25Conclusion
Although excessive protein intake remains a health concern in individuals with pre-existing renal disease, the literature lacks significant research demonstrating a link between protein intake and the initiation or progression of renal disease in healthy individuals. More importantly, evidence suggests that protein-induced changes in renal function are likely a normal adaptative mechanism well within the functional limits of a healthy kidney. Without question, long-term studies are needed to clarify the scant evidence currently available regarding this relationship. At present, there is not sufficient proof to warrant public health directives aimed at restricting dietary protein intake in healthy adults for the purpose of preserving renal function.[
I'm not sure of your point here. Are you suggesting,I should have assumed the poster had a healthy kidney(s) to begin with and/or that a lack of research made kidney damage impossible even if he didn't???0 -
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i have exact the same problem. i hardly ever go over 70g of protein even though i eat it with almost every meal
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It would be vary hard for me too if I didn't eat meat. The protein sources you mentioned: beans, tofu, greek yogurt, eggs, fish, quinoa, are great but they all come with carbs.
My suggestions is to increase the eggs and fish, add some dairy if you are not sensitive and whey or other protein powder.
What's wrong with carbs?0 -
Um, no. It was a question. I'm not sure why a question would need backing up. Unless you were in the study, study results won't answer my question. But the lack of an answer pretty much answers it.
Very cute but you know very well the proof source requested was for your assertion that Zangpakto's protein could cause kidney issues. Based on the subsequent study that was posted and in light of the fact you have posted nothing to indicate otherwise, it's clear you were wrong. Very simple.
No, not really. I never suggested the poster's diet could cause kidney issues for them. I only suggested that for some people eating very high protein, especially more grams of protein the total body weight in lbs, has the potential to cause kidney issues and ask how he knew it wasn't for him. At which time his panties went into an immediate wad.
And I wasn't wrong. Not everyone could safely eat that amount of protein. And I believe you all probably know that.
Dietary protein intake and renal function. Nutrition & Metabolism 2005, 2:25 doi:10.1186/1743-7075-2-25
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/25Conclusion
Although excessive protein intake remains a health concern in individuals with pre-existing renal disease, the literature lacks significant research demonstrating a link between protein intake and the initiation or progression of renal disease in healthy individuals. More importantly, evidence suggests that protein-induced changes in renal function are likely a normal adaptative mechanism well within the functional limits of a healthy kidney. Without question, long-term studies are needed to clarify the scant evidence currently available regarding this relationship. At present, there is not sufficient proof to warrant public health directives aimed at restricting dietary protein intake in healthy adults for the purpose of preserving renal function.[
A similar link has already been posted. Some people find being right more important than the research that conflicts with that truth, unfortunately those same people find obscure out of date research to support their confirmation bias, kinda like what Taubes does........0
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