Women get BULKY from LIFTING HEAVY?!?!

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  • DarthH8
    DarthH8 Posts: 298 Member
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    Shiiiit gaining muscle is as easy anyone can do it.

    Ladies and gents if you are interested in getting super bulky do this:

    1) First you need to go grab a milkshake (or smoothie) and some candy, any candy whichever kind you like the most.
    2) Put your arms straight out in front of you and fold your hands together, put both thumbs up and then align them together.
    3) Slowly curl your arms so that it's almost like you are praying and your fists are even with your face. Flex really hard as you do this.
    4) Blow on your thumbs.
    5) Have huge muscles.
    6) Drink your milkshake and have some candy. Cuz that **** is real good.
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,326 Member
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    Is there a point at which lifting heavy regularly stops being beneficial for bone density and becomes damaging to joints and protective cartilage? Not a challenge against lifting at all, just that I know people who have given up lifting in favour of less impacting workouts because of joint pain, arthritis etc.


    yes but that's a point most people will never ever ever reach. unless they are training to olympian standards. most people arent working out like that and dont ever have to worry about it happening
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
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    I just think this is as good a time as any to just put it out there that lifting as a female is good for you. Fear not, and be a strong woman!
    What's wrong with the 2nd lady?

    Oh and Jamie Easton does not lift heavy at all.
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
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    Is there a point at which lifting heavy regularly stops being beneficial for bone density and becomes damaging to joints and protective cartilage? Not a challenge against lifting at all, just that I know people who have given up lifting in favour of less impacting workouts because of joint pain, arthritis etc.

    This is one major reason why I have opted for bodyweight routines over weights - with weights, you aim to lift increasingly heavier, but there must come a time where your muscles can handle the weight but maybe your joints cannot. At least with bodyweight you can gain a reasonable amount of strength and a fit physique but joints are protected by the fact the resistance is governed by leverage rather than direct force.
    That is because they didn't recover properly and or do stretching exercises. As you get older and into the heavier lifting. Recovery and mobility work is a must.

    Other than that, it's just an excuse NOT to lift. You can have joint pain doing superset of 20 reps.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
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    Is there a point at which lifting heavy regularly stops being beneficial for bone density and becomes damaging to joints and protective cartilage? Not a challenge against lifting at all, just that I know people who have given up lifting in favour of less impacting workouts because of joint pain, arthritis etc.

    This is one major reason why I have opted for bodyweight routines over weights - with weights, you aim to lift increasingly heavier, but there must come a time where your muscles can handle the weight but maybe your joints cannot. At least with bodyweight you can gain a reasonable amount of strength and a fit physique but joints are protected by the fact the resistance is governed by leverage rather than direct force.
    With a good, balanced programme that incorportates a lot of dynamic and compound movements, the supporting, non-visible muscles develop proportionally to the larger, more aesthetic muscles. I imagine most joint problems arise from years of isolation work or over-reliance on machines, that prevent these stabilising muscles from developing.

    With that said, I did meet a powerlifter that told me he quit the day he felt his spine bend under a heavy squat. It's something that will vary person to person, but I don't know of any existing literature on the topic.
  • crazy4lulu
    crazy4lulu Posts: 822 Member
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    so.... here we go again. i am 5 feet 11 inches tall. i was a size 14 at 170 to 175 lbs. i am 5 ft 11 inches tall still..... however after lifting i am a size 8 and i weigh 184 lbs!!!! Lifting = Magic!!!!
  • ItsPheebs
    ItsPheebs Posts: 127 Member
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    Eh... They are all lovely women but none of them have the body I want. I like being soft. :) (I'm not saying this ignorantly, and I'm not insinuating those women aren't soft, this is just a statement about how I, personally, like MY body).

    You're in luck - being soft takes no effort at all! (at least for me...) Now being strong, on the other hand... :flowerforyou:

    Hee hee. I'm going to defy all logic and be soft strong. Oh yeah. See if you can stop me. :P

    You can do whatever you want to do! That's the point of this whole website: Find your personal goal and achieve it. Jennifer Garner says she won't lift heavy because she "bulks up too easily" ... which I find silly, but she looks all ripped up. It's just a matter of diet really. I have a friend who looks soft and in great shape, but shaped and curvy. She can do more pullups than a man and is very strong, but she doesn't want to have that definition.

    You'll make a beautiful Marilyn. :)
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
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    Eh... They are all lovely women but none of them have the body I want. I like being soft. :) (I'm not saying this ignorantly, and I'm not insinuating those women aren't soft, this is just a statement about how I, personally, like MY body).

    You're in luck - being soft takes no effort at all! (at least for me...) Now being strong, on the other hand... :flowerforyou:

    Hee hee. I'm going to defy all logic and be soft strong. Oh yeah. See if you can stop me. :P

    You can do whatever you want to do! That's the point of this whole website: Find your personal goal and achieve it. Jennifer Garner says she won't lift heavy because she "bulks up too easily" ... which I find silly, but she looks all ripped up. It's just a matter of diet really. I have a friend who looks soft and in great shape, but shaped and curvy. She can do more pullups than a man and is very strong, but she doesn't want to have that definition.

    You'll make a beautiful Marilyn. :)
    Pauline Nordin comes to mind. She is strong as hell but can look very ripped and very soft. It's all due to diet.
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
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    R we talking about Jamie Eason? She squats to failure- sounds heavy to me:

    http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/fitness-model-jamie-eason-her-workouts-wisdom-and-wake-up-call-to-get-healthy-154420.html
  • _stephanie0
    _stephanie0 Posts: 708 Member
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    Are Jamie Eason's tits real.


    no..
    she had breast cancer.

    Damn, at 22!
    All I can find is that she had a "cancer scare" so I'm guessing she didn't actually have cancer?

    I found some interviews where she said she had chemotherapy... but to be fair, yeah, I haven't found anything that said she had a double mastectomy or anything. I only commented because it seemed unreal to have those breasts with that body! I didn't think they were necessarily fake.

    It's hard to find anything legit on her... typing in Jamie Eason is opening up the interwebs of contempt apparently.

    yeah i dont know the details either, just that she found a lump...

    jamie-before2.jpg

    realistically though, probably 90% of fitness models have fake boobs :P
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
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    R we talking about Jamie Eason? She squats to failure- sounds heavy to me:

    http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/fitness-model-jamie-eason-her-workouts-wisdom-and-wake-up-call-to-get-healthy-154420.html
    I can squat to failure doing 135x50 reps per set. Training to failure doesn't relate to strength.
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
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    Right, but when she's talking sets of five leading up to it, it sounds a bit of a stretch to suggest she's doing 135x30 or whatever.
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
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    I guess she's doing sets of 10-15...but whatever. I doubt she's doing it with ten pound dumb bells. And I don't know who this chick is- I just know that lifting heavy has done wonders for me.
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
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    Right, but when she's talking sets of five leading up to it, it sounds a bit of a stretch to suggest she's doing 135x30 or whatever.
    I was using an example.
  • Yogi_Carl
    Yogi_Carl Posts: 1,906 Member
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    Thank you to meshashesha, fitnesssocialist and iron animal - that was kind've what I thought but thought it was worth putting out there for discussion.
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
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    R we talking about Jamie Eason? She squats to failure- sounds heavy to me:

    http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/fitness-model-jamie-eason-her-workouts-wisdom-and-wake-up-call-to-get-healthy-154420.html
    I can squat to failure doing 135x50 reps per set. Training to failure doesn't relate to strength.

    :sick:
  • melodys_attic
    melodys_attic Posts: 114 Member
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    The women in the pix on both sides are flexing. You can have muscle and still be soft. We NEED muscle to support our joints and tendons. It also builds us up to help reduce our chances of developing osteoporosis. Our lifestyles are so sedentary we don't develop and use muscles naturally. Weight lifting or resistance training like some yoga postures and flows help us be strong inside and out. Now I just have to make myself do it. haha.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
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    The women in the pix on both sides are flexing. You can have muscle and still be soft.

    Yep. Flexing, bodyfat, hydration, whether or not you're "pumped" makes a big difference. As I've posted before, the same women who'd say "ew" to Jamie like this...

    unknown10.jpg

    ... would probably give a kidney to look like Jamie here...

    JamieEason1.jpg
  • melodys_attic
    melodys_attic Posts: 114 Member
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    some people do get quite sore from lifting. I have to go easy even with just 3 or 5 pound weights because of past (non weight lifting related) injuries to shoulders. I get pain in all my joints but building muscles eventually reduces some of the pain. If I go easy I can slowly tone. I have to work with a PT to develop my program or I end up hurt.
  • waldo56
    waldo56 Posts: 1,861 Member
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    @C4RL05 as I don't want to quote you; for a lot of people starting out, seeing relatively fast results is the best way to encourage someone to stick to the programme. Lifting weights is a way to continually push the boundaries as well; yoga, bodyweight workouts etc certainly have their place and nobody should ridicule you for that, but there is a limit where you stop PROGRESSING with them. Putting an extra pound on the bar is motivation to go back and do it again, and again, and again.

    I will always promote heavy lifting over bodyweight for the above reasons, but if heavy lifting isn't an option, like many others, my go-to IS bodyweight exercise.

    There is no limit where you stop progressing with bodyweight exercises.

    Though at some point most people will run out of the knowledge of what is harder than what they can currently do. The most difficult and advanced bodyweight exercises are very difficult to discover. Practically noone can do them, pratically noone has seen anyone that can do them (noone does them in gyms, there is very little cultural crossover there), and there is very little written about them on the internet. 99.999999% of bodyweight exercise info is written for the absolute beginner. But the exercises do exist, and you can discover them if you look hard enough.

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