Close to 20' dead in Connecticut school shooting,
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As a pediatric nurse I have spent 16 years making a career out of fighting for the lives of children. And in one feld swoop some ****ing *kitten* comes and takes out 18 babies. I cannot stop sobbing at the horror of it all. WHY?
Kudos to you for doing what you do. It takes a special kind of person to put themselves in situations where they have to see the ugliest, most horrific and most painful things we can imagine, especially when it comes to children. People like you truly are heroes. :flowerforyou: Makes me think even more about the responders and medical staff that are dealing with this tragedy today.
^ This, plus I think it's heartening to try and think of the amazing teachers in this situation. There's already so many stories of the teachers who immediately rushed to help their charges, hiding them, putting themselves in danger to protect who they could. Even in pictures, I'm amazed at how calm and collected they are in sweeping kids to safety.0 -
The U.S. has had too many incidents, too close together, of crazy people with guns going off and shooting innocents.
How many months ago was Colorado?
It's heartbreaking that yet another has whipped out a gun, killed children and adults at a school, and then turned his gun on himself.
It is important to discuss how such tragedies can be prevented in the future.
Such a discussion is not politicization, but a drive for rationality.
I totally agree with you. It is just that people need a little more time. I have no doubt the debates will be forthcoming sooner than we want them to be. There have been elementary school (a.k.a. young children barely more than babies) shootings before in the states, but as far as I can recall this is the worse I have ever heard of (anyone know if this actually is the worse in US history?). Honestly, it is so unbelievable that someone would shoot innocent school children that I can't even wrap my brain around it (and I don' have kids). So if you are not in the US I can understand why you'd want to discuss this now, but this is huge. So please just give us some time to process the events.
I really hope this is not related to some 2012 nonsense as someone pages back suggested. Ugh.
ETA:They are saying the killer was the son of the Kindergarten teacher.
Just heard that he killed his own mother before he went on this rampage..
Okay so not some 2012 nut, just a nut with a vengeance for his mother. But why, why, why shoot the children!? SIcko.0 -
Just heard this on BBC News and am utterly numb with grief and the sheer disbelief that this is allowed to happen again and again and again and again in America.
I guess the NRA's viewpoint will be that at least 40 million other kids were safe today because of guns.
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I disagree with your logic and conclusion.
just curious...how many mass shootings, especially in schools would be 'enough' before something needs to be done? or is this collateral damage to preserve the basic human right to own devices that can kill others???
I can kill someone with my car but you dont see anyone taking cars away, guns are just a tool... not the time or place for this argument.0 -
As a pediatric nurse I have spent 16 years making a career out of fighting for the lives of children. And in one feld swoop some ****ing *kitten* comes and takes out 18 babies. I cannot stop sobbing at the horror of it all. WHY?
Kudos to you for doing what you do. It takes a special kind of person to put themselves in situations where they have to see the ugliest, most horrific and most painful things we can imagine, especially when it comes to children. People like you truly are heroes. :flowerforyou: Makes me think even more about the responders and medical staff that are dealing with this tragedy today.
^ This, plus I think it's heartening to try and think of the amazing teachers in this situation. There's already so many stories of the teachers who immediately rushed to help their charges, hiding them, putting themselves in danger to protect who they could. Even in pictures, I'm amazed at how calm and collected they are in sweeping kids to safety.
Exactly, I guess no one knows exactly how they would respond in a situation like this. But those people are so brave and selfless it's amazing.0 -
The U.S. has had too many incidents, too close together, of crazy people with guns going off and shooting innocents.
How many months ago was Colorado?
It's heartbreaking that yet another has whipped out a gun, killed children and adults at a school, and then turned his gun on himself.
It is important to discuss how such tragedies can be prevented in the future.
Such a discussion is not politicization, but a drive for rationality.
I totally agree with you. It is just that people need a little more time. I have no doubt the debates will be forthcoming sooner than we want them to be. There have been elementary school (a.k.a. young children barely more than babies) shootings before in the states, but as far as I can recall this is the worse I have ever heard of (anyone know if this actually is the worse in US history?). Honestly, it is so unbelievable that someone would shoot innocent school children that I can't even wrap my brain around it (and I don' have kids). So if you are not in the US I can understand why you'd want to discuss this now, but this is huge. So please just give us some time to process the events.
I really hope this is not related to some 2012 nonsense as someone pages back suggested. Ugh.
I wasn't suggesting it be discussed NOW. Just saying that you can't totally toss out the idea of discussion.
And discussion doesn't automatically mean gun control.
Sigh ... people get crazy.
It is time to grieve, but not time to put away rationality.0 -
Seriously outraged/heartbroken/devastated for those families... At least 18 families have lost at least 1 child all at once this morning. BEFORE CHRISTMAS. And what do people on MFP threads do? Turn it into a freaking political debate. Really? I don't think so. Please guys, take the debates elsewhere.0
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Today is a sad day for the America's liberty and people at Conn. I wish everyone could carry a pistol/rifle with you everywhere openly; your gun could eliminate a threat faster than you could dial a 9-1-1. If it has happened at the Conn school then a teacher at the school could have eliminated the threat before he could kill more. We cannot prevent a threat at all but we have a tool to eliminate the threat before it get to out of the control. The Gun Control hasn’t reduced the problem but to create more problems. God be with those families at Conn.
Sorry, it is the truth that the gun control laws enabled the bad guys to kill people more easier than it was before the gun control laws.
It is good time for us to call to eliminate the gun control laws to give us the right to defend our lives at the immediately danger moment of our life. This incident is a good lesson for us to understand that the gun control didn't work at all. I am very sorry that those people had to go through those unnecessary hardships and losses of their family members. I pray for them. I also pray that we have a strong voice to call our elected representatives to eliminate the whole gun control laws.
Thank you for reading my comment. I ask you to not bash at my comment and with those law abiding gun-owners at all.0 -
Shooter 24 years old. Went to kill the mother of his child who is a teacher at the school.0
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@Jindra- Thanks for using the deaths of children as a platform to share your political agenda. Complete with cartoons.0
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His mother was a teacher at the school and he quote "wanted to kill what she loved"0
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Thanks for using the deaths of children as a platform to share your political agenda.
For real! It's a tragedy, plain and simple. Mamas are grieving for their babies right now
They need our thoughts and prayers. 0 -
makes me want to home school my daughter0
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The U.S. has had too many incidents, too close together, of crazy people with guns going off and shooting innocents.
How many months ago was Colorado?
It's heartbreaking that yet another has whipped out a gun, killed children and adults at a school, and then turned his gun on himself.
It is important to discuss how such tragedies can be prevented in the future.
Such a discussion is not politicization, but a drive for rationality.
I totally agree with you. It is just that people need a little more time. I have no doubt the debates will be forthcoming sooner than we want them to be. There have been elementary school (a.k.a. young children barely more than babies) shootings before in the states, but as far as I can recall this is the worse I have ever heard of (anyone know if this actually is the worse in US history?). Honestly, it is so unbelievable that someone would shoot innocent school children that I can't even wrap my brain around it (and I don' have kids). So if you are not in the US I can understand why you'd want to discuss this now, but this is huge. So please just give us some time to process the events.
I really hope this is not related to some 2012 nonsense as someone pages back suggested. Ugh.
I wasn't suggesting it be discussed NOW. Just saying that you can't totally toss out the idea of discussion.
And discussion doesn't automatically mean gun control.
Sigh ... people get crazy.
It is time to grieve, but not time to put away rationality.
I hope you don't feel like I was picking on you because I agree with you. And it really is hard to separate the crime from the weapon and circumstances. That part is definitely coming soon enough. But with that said, I don't think all of the details have even been released yet so it is probably best to have all the facts before trying to sort it out.0 -
@Jindra- Thanks for using the deaths of children as a platform to share your political agenda. Complete with cartoons.
Liberals always called for more gun control laws after shooting spree incident. I don't like it but the Liberals took our valuable defensive tool away from us which it enabled this incident (27+ people dead because no one could eliminate the threat fast enough before the cop could do their job).0 -
Shooter 24 years old. Went to kill the mother of his child who is a teacher at the school.
It was his own mother
It appears he killed his father at home, as well. (Just from what I'm gathering from news sources) 0 -
CNN is reporting it was a 24 year old man who's mother taught at the school. The mother's classroom was the one he went into, after the principals office. Apparently another body was found at the shooters home.
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Really people. STOP with the whole debate on what country is messed up or debating about Gun Control. JUST STOP! Little kids just died this morning. Can't you just keep your opinions on these things to yourself for a day?
I am reading this thread to also get updates on what is going on and to share in my sympathies with the families.
SO STOP WITH THE AGENDAS AND ARGUMENTS. Go start a new thread elsewhere if you want to get into these other topics.0 -
I just want say f**k work and go get my kids right now...
I hope the shooter rots for all eternity in the deepest, darkest pit of hell.
I feel the same way. My daughter is about to get off the school bus and I so want to be there to hug her tight.0 -
Shooter 24 years old. Went to kill the mother of his child who is a teacher at the school.
You are right. His mother.0 -
His mother was a teacher at the school and he quote "wanted to kill what she loved"
Is it his mother, or the mother of his child?0 -
I cant read anymore...just can't process this ...the horror...so incredibly sad... 0
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@Jindra- Thanks for using the deaths of children as a platform to share your political agenda. Complete with cartoons.
Liberals always called for more gun control laws after shooting spree incident. I don't like it but the Liberals took our valuable defensive tool away from us which it enabled this incident (27+ people dead because no one could eliminate the threat fast enough before the cop could do their job).
Just go away, this is not the time nor place.0 -
30 total killed so far..with 18-20 of them being children 0
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Prayers for everyone.0 -
this makes my heart hurt.
When I heard the news I literally thought I was going to be sick. An elementary school for god sake! I had to run to the bathroom and cry. I couldn't even control it. My daughter is in preschool at a public elementary school and I just can't even think about it. The children, their families...0 -
My 11 month old niece (in my profile pic) is in daycare in Newtown. The daycare is in lockdown still but she is safe.
Please pray for all the families involved in this horrible tragedy....who kills little kids 10 days before Christmas? My heart is breaking.
Glad she is okay! What a precious little face
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@Jindra- Thanks for using the deaths of children as a platform to share your political agenda. Complete with cartoons.
Liberals always called for more gun control laws after shooting spree incident. I don't like it but the Liberals took our valuable defensive tool away from us which it enabled this incident (27+ people dead because no one could eliminate the threat fast enough before the cop could do their job).
You're a moron.
Seriously...just f*cking drop it.0 -
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