CARBS??? VEGGIE carbs ok ? Or ?
mandyneedtolose
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Hey general question for all you veteren weight loss pro's out there. When it comes to carbs, what are good what are bad? I have cut out carbs from bread, pasta and rice. I usually try and get about 100 grm of carbs a day and that is from mostly veggies/fruits. So is that ok ? I was hearing about the Atkins' diet and their carbs are below 50 a day sometimes around 25! And not much fruits or veggies on the meal ......... Just looking for some friendly advice and see what comes up. I was 286 lbs last Dec. I am now 194.8 lbs still have a bit to go, but the weight is coming off slower and slower. Wanting to speed it up a bit. Like this week NO LOSS NO GAIN!! Sucks. Just looking for some advice.
Thanks .. Mandy
Thanks .. Mandy
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Your body uses them all as glucose, the source is irrelevant.
Weight loss will be determined by your caloric deficit.0 -
Your body uses them all as glucose, the source is irrelevant.
Weight loss will be determined by your caloric deficit.
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i'm interested to see what people think on this too.0
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Your body uses them all as glucose, the source is irrelevant.
Weight loss will be determined by your caloric deficit.
broscience
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Your body uses them all as glucose, the source is irrelevant.
Weight loss will be determined by your caloric deficit.
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You are doing great with that weight loss! don't worry about carbs from fruits and vegetables - your body needs the nutrients in them to be healthy. It's best to avoid foods made with white flour, processed foods, white rice and even white potatoes. But since sweet potaotes, winter squash, fruits and even milk are so nutritious, they should be a part of your diet even though they contain carbs. Also, I found that since I started exercising more, I can eat more! Whoo Hoo!0
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Your body uses them all as glucose, the source is irrelevant.
Weight loss will be determined by your caloric deficit.
So you are saying that I can eat all my carbs from eating white bread pasta and rice .. So if I get a ton of carbs from veggies 100 grms a day it won`t effect weigh loss. This is all learning game to me when it comes to eat carbs or don`t eat carbs and from what source! Thanks.0 -
Your body uses them all as glucose, the source is irrelevant.
My insulin-resistant body would like to disagree with you.
OP: it's generally accepted that getting carbs from fruits, veggies, and whole grains is much, much better than getting them from simple starches (potatoes, white pasta, white bread) that break down quickly. The carbs in fruit/veggies/whole grains break down into glucose much slower, which is why those are preferable to things like french fries and white dinner rolls.0 -
Whole, unprocessed foods that contain carbohydrates, like fruit, vegetables and legumes are OK to eat as much as you desire.
Whole (non-glutenous) grains and white potatoes can be eaten, but if you are not losing weight, these would be the whole, plant based carbs to limit first.
Processed, refined carbohydrates, like breads, sugar, flour, HFCS, agave sweetener, etc, stay away from. The ideal amount of these foods is ZERO, and the closer you can get your intake of these foods to zero, the healthier you will be.0 -
If there is no specific medical reason why you need to refrain from eating carbs, then eat the carbs.
If you don't enjoy holding slices of turkey and cheese with mayo in your hands, put it between slices of bread instead.
If you don't enjoy a solo side of tomato sauce, pour it over pasta.
If you don't enjoy the way your dinner plate looks with only meat and veggies on it and you have a missing feeling, rice goes really well in that empty place on your plate.
Do not restrict foods that you enjoy if you don't have to. Keep a calorie deficit and stay in your macros, all while eating the foods that you love and I guarantee that you will enjoy this process so much more. :flowerforyou:0 -
all carbs are good... micronutrient dense carbs are better than nutrient void carbs.
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carbs are not evil...just as fat is not evil...your body needs that stuff. Fad diets like Adkins and the like do not teach you how to eat for proper nutrition and balance; once carbs are reintroduced, people balloon right back up. It really depends on what you're wanting to do...for me, I'm losing weight, but also getting stronger and leaner; I don't want to be a big hulking mass of muscle, but I do want to be lean, strong, and muscular. So far, zone is working for me very well; 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% good fats. In all, I've dropped 10 Lbs and I'm starting to get some definition. To boot, my mind has never been clearer...I have more energy, and I sleep better.
I try to get most of my food carbs from complex sources like fruit, veg, and whole grains. I try to avoid simple sugars and processed stuff, but some is pretty much inevitable...and everyone deserves a treat now and then. My biggest obstacle in the carb category is my passion for red wine and other spirits.0 -
carbs are not evil...just as fat is not evil...your body needs that stuff. Fad diets like Adkins and the like do not teach you how to eat for proper nutrition and balance; once carbs are reintroduced, people balloon right back up. It really depends on what you're wanting to do...for me, I'm losing weight, but also getting stronger and leaner; I don't want to be a big hulking mass of muscle, but I do want to be lean, strong, and muscular. So far, zone is working for me very well; 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% good fats. In all, I've dropped 10 Lbs and I'm starting to get some definition. To boot, my mind has never been clearer...I have more energy, and I sleep better.
I try to get most of my food carbs from complex sources like fruit, veg, and whole grains. I try to avoid simple sugars and processed stuff, but some is pretty much inevitable...and everyone deserves a treat now and then. My biggest obstacle in the carb category is my passion for red wine and other spirits.
What is so complex about fruit?0 -
If there is no specific medical reason why you need to refrain from eating carbs, then eat the carbs.
If you don't enjoy holding slices of turkey and cheese with mayo in your hands, put it between slices of bread instead.
If you don't enjoy a solo side of tomato sauce, pour it over pasta.
If you don't enjoy the way your dinner plate looks with only meat and veggies on it and you have a missing feeling, rice goes really well in that empty place on your plate.
Do not restrict foods that you enjoy if you don't have to. Keep a calorie deficit and stay in your macros, all while eating the foods that you love and I guarantee that you will enjoy this process so much more. :flowerforyou:
And this ^^^^....Yes!0 -
Your body uses them all as glucose, the source is irrelevant.
Weight loss will be determined by your caloric deficit.
So you are saying that I can eat all my carbs from eating white bread pasta and rice .. So if I get a ton of carbs from veggies 100 grms a day it won`t effect weigh loss. This is all learning game to me when it comes to eat carbs or don`t eat carbs and from what source! Thanks.
No, it will not effect weight loss, assuming we are comparing two diets with equal amount of calories.
It goes without saying that eating a decent amount of vegetables everyday is good for you for other reasons.0 -
carbs are not evil...just as fat is not evil...your body needs that stuff. Fad diets like Adkins and the like do not teach you how to eat for proper nutrition and balance; once carbs are reintroduced, people balloon right back up. It really depends on what you're wanting to do...for me, I'm losing weight, but also getting stronger and leaner; I don't want to be a big hulking mass of muscle, but I do want to be lean, strong, and muscular. So far, zone is working for me very well; 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% good fats. In all, I've dropped 10 Lbs and I'm starting to get some definition. To boot, my mind has never been clearer...I have more energy, and I sleep better.
I try to get most of my food carbs from complex sources like fruit, veg, and whole grains. I try to avoid simple sugars and processed stuff, but some is pretty much inevitable...and everyone deserves a treat now and then. My biggest obstacle in the carb category is my passion for red wine and other spirits.
What is so complex about fruit?
Most fruits are considered a complex carbohydrate and nutrient dense food. The fiber does not allow the body to convert to glucose as quickly as just having a piece of candy or something.0 -
As my health instructor says: "none of us got here eating too many fruits and veggies". Load up!!0
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carbs are not evil...just as fat is not evil...your body needs that stuff. Fad diets like Adkins and the like do not teach you how to eat for proper nutrition and balance; once carbs are reintroduced, people balloon right back up. It really depends on what you're wanting to do...for me, I'm losing weight, but also getting stronger and leaner; I don't want to be a big hulking mass of muscle, but I do want to be lean, strong, and muscular. So far, zone is working for me very well; 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% good fats. In all, I've dropped 10 Lbs and I'm starting to get some definition. To boot, my mind has never been clearer...I have more energy, and I sleep better.
I try to get most of my food carbs from complex sources like fruit, veg, and whole grains. I try to avoid simple sugars and processed stuff, but some is pretty much inevitable...and everyone deserves a treat now and then. My biggest obstacle in the carb category is my passion for red wine and other spirits.
What is so complex about fruit?
Most fruits are considered a complex carbohydrate and nutrient dense food. The fiber does not allow the body to convert to glucose as quickly as just having a piece of candy or something.
Last time I checked fructose was a simple carb0 -
carbs are not evil...just as fat is not evil...your body needs that stuff. Fad diets like Adkins and the like do not teach you how to eat for proper nutrition and balance; once carbs are reintroduced, people balloon right back up. It really depends on what you're wanting to do...for me, I'm losing weight, but also getting stronger and leaner; I don't want to be a big hulking mass of muscle, but I do want to be lean, strong, and muscular. So far, zone is working for me very well; 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% good fats. In all, I've dropped 10 Lbs and I'm starting to get some definition. To boot, my mind has never been clearer...I have more energy, and I sleep better.
I try to get most of my food carbs from complex sources like fruit, veg, and whole grains. I try to avoid simple sugars and processed stuff, but some is pretty much inevitable...and everyone deserves a treat now and then. My biggest obstacle in the carb category is my passion for red wine and other spirits.
What is so complex about fruit?
Most fruits are considered a complex carbohydrate and nutrient dense food. The fiber does not allow the body to convert to glucose as quickly as just having a piece of candy or something.
And white bread is a simple carb, amirite?0 -
carbs are not evil...just as fat is not evil...your body needs that stuff. Fad diets like Adkins and the like do not teach you how to eat for proper nutrition and balance; once carbs are reintroduced, people balloon right back up. It really depends on what you're wanting to do...for me, I'm losing weight, but also getting stronger and leaner; I don't want to be a big hulking mass of muscle, but I do want to be lean, strong, and muscular. So far, zone is working for me very well; 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% good fats. In all, I've dropped 10 Lbs and I'm starting to get some definition. To boot, my mind has never been clearer...I have more energy, and I sleep better.
I try to get most of my food carbs from complex sources like fruit, veg, and whole grains. I try to avoid simple sugars and processed stuff, but some is pretty much inevitable...and everyone deserves a treat now and then. My biggest obstacle in the carb category is my passion for red wine and other spirits.
What is so complex about fruit?
Most fruits are considered a complex carbohydrate and nutrient dense food. The fiber does not allow the body to convert to glucose as quickly as just having a piece of candy or something.
Last time I checked fructose was a simple carb
Yeah...but combined with the other nutrients as a whole it becomes complex. I'm not a nutritionalist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...and I can google. I don't even know what the arguement is here. I simply stated that carbs aren't evil and that I prefer to get mine from fruit, veg, and whole grains...if you prefer to get them from cookies, soda, and candy, it's no skin off my back and I'm sure the outcome is the same. I just prefer an orange to an orange soda is all...plus fruit keeps me feeling full.
I can only attest to my experience, and that is I'm feeling better than I have in decades trying to follow a zone diet and dumping my sodas and candies.0 -
Most fruits are considered a complex carbohydrate and nutrient dense food. The fiber does not allow the body to convert to glucose as quickly as just having a piece of candy or something.
Sorry to be pedantic but fruit sugars are not considered complex, all sugars are simple, starchy carbs (even the refined ones!) are complex. You are confusing modern and older classification systems - I'm guessing you are thinking about the glycaemic index? If so it's not just the fibre it is also the structure of the carb, certain starches are polymers of glucose, whereas certain sugars are dimers of sugar molecules other than glucose so splitting AND conversion is required.0 -
Most fruits are considered a complex carbohydrate and nutrient dense food. The fiber does not allow the body to convert to glucose as quickly as just having a piece of candy or something.
Sorry to be pedantic but fruit sugars are not considered complex, all sugars are simple, starchy carbs (even the refined ones!) are complex. You are confusing modern and older classification systems - I'm guessing you are thinking about the glycaemic index? If so it's not just the fibre it is also the structure of the carb, certain starches are polymers of glucose, whereas certain sugars are dimers of sugar molecules other than glucose so splitting AND conversion is required.
Ok..I digress; my original point being that carbs aren't evil. And yes...I guess I was thinking more in terms of the glycaemic index. I'm trying to ward off diabetes (not there yet) so as not to suffer the same fate as my dad and grandfather, as well as trying to get to a healthy weight and lower my soaring cholesterol and blood pressure and get my fitness back after decades of lounging about the couch drinking Mt Dew.
I try to limit my carbs to 40% of my diet and I try my damndest to do it with whole foods.0 -
Yeah...but combined with the other nutrients as a whole it becomes complex.
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Just cut out alcohol, fructose,caffeine and sugar (sweets, bread,etc.). And try eating proteins with fats, proteins with veggies, carbs with fats, carbs with veggies, fats with veggies, fats with sour food, sugar with sour food, beans with veggies and beans with fats.0
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Just cut out alcohol, fructose,caffeine and sugar (sweets, bread,etc.). The rest is OK.
So now bread is sugar? I'm so confused.0 -
Just cut out alcohol, fructose,caffeine and sugar (sweets, bread,etc.). And try eating proteins with fats, proteins with veggies, carbs with fats, carbs with veggies, fats with veggies, fats with sour food, sugar with sour food, beans with veggies and beans with fats.
this is legit0 -
Just cut out alcohol, fructose,caffeine and sugar (sweets, bread,etc.). And try eating proteins with fats, proteins with veggies, carbs with fats, carbs with veggies, fats with veggies, fats with sour food, sugar with sour food, beans with veggies and beans with fats.
this is legit
What is sour food?0 -
ATKINS sucks (unless you're looking for a new liver)...don't do it! And vegetables and fruits are WAY OKAY! EAT THEM and LOTS OF THEM!
Just my humble opinion
Edit: there is nothing wrong with bread, pasta and rice...just make sure to eat whole grain (those with high fiber...where the fiber hasn't been processed out ...note - not one's processed then fiber added back)0 -
Your body uses them all as glucose, the source is irrelevant.
Weight loss will be determined by your caloric deficit.
I wish women health was THAT simple0 -
Your body uses them all as glucose, the source is irrelevant.
Weight loss will be determined by your caloric deficit.
I wish women health was THAT simple
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