Man bashing on MFP
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I'm raising three boys on my own, and man-bashing is not high up on my list of fun things to do. People are people, and while men and women may sometimes seem like different species, they both endure life's challenges and reap life's rewards. *shrugs*
People can suck regardless of the junk they're sportin'. So I tend to hate equally.
Wait, wait! Aren't you supposed to dump all of your problems on your kids heads? I mean, not doing it just wouldn't be fair! You might actually raise happy and well adjusted ones and then we wouldn't have any need for life-long self loathing and counseling . . .0 -
LMAO dude chill. Holy crap. Now every man is a rapist...nice
No. Why are you feeling as if someone pointing out the topic of rape (in as broad a term as possible, in this case) pinpoints you and men as a whole as rapists? Seems an odd thing to be defensive about. It'd be like someone saying "Hey, we used to atomic bomb!" and someone going "Nice, now every superpower is using the atomic bomb."
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LMAO dude chill. Holy crap. Now every man is a rapist...nice
No. Why are you feeling as if someone pointing out the topic of rape (in as broad a term as possible, in this case) pinpoints you and men as a whole as rapists? Seems an odd thing to be defensive about. It'd be like someone saying "Hey, we used to atomic bomb!" and someone going "Nice, now every superpower is using the atomic bomb."
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Exactly what I was thinking. Mentioning rape culture (which women perpetuate, as well, I might add) is not even REMOTELY the same thing as accusing all men, or even ANY man, of actual rape. Keep it together, people.0 -
I agree OP. I think that society places so much pressure on us as is, to be good husbands, good fathers, and to look lean and muscular while fixing the appliances and generally being chivalrous.
Then, after doing all those manly things I log into this site just to get some relief from the societal pressures and I'm continually pressured and ridiculed by the majority of MFP.
This really needs to stop.
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Nothing but
for that one ^^
But seriously, these forums bash everyone. Sometimes males, sometimes females, sometimes overweight people, sometimes "skinny" people. I don't know if you know it, but there can only be 5 happy people in the forums, so I have to make a bunch of people feel crappy if I want a happy spot.
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LMAO dude chill. Holy crap. Now every man is a rapist...nice
No. Why are you feeling as if someone pointing out the topic of rape (in as broad a term as possible, in this case) pinpoints you and men as a whole as rapists? Seems an odd thing to be defensive about. It'd be like someone saying "Hey, we used to atomic bomb!" and someone going "Nice, now every superpower is using the atomic bomb."
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Don't think I'm being defensive. The topic was about man- bashing and rape got brought up out of the blue. You should be asking why rape was brought up out of nowhere. I mean... some men doing such things gives women the right to complain about men? Is that the defense?0 -
It's not cool to bash men. It's not cool to bash women.
Love to all of you. :flowerforyou: 0 -
LMAO dude chill. Holy crap. Now every man is a rapist...nice
No. Why are you feeling as if someone pointing out the topic of rape (in as broad a term as possible, in this case) pinpoints you and men as a whole as rapists? Seems an odd thing to be defensive about. It'd be like someone saying "Hey, we used to atomic bomb!" and someone going "Nice, now every superpower is using the atomic bomb."
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Don't think I'm being defensive. The topic was about man- bashing and rape got brought up out of the blue. You should be asking why rape was brought up out of nowhere. I mean... some men doing such things gives women the right to complain about men? Is that the defense?
Man bashing brought up power inequality among the sexes which brought up rape culture, as sexual violence is about power and not about the sex itself. It's more than a little obvious. Herp derp derp.0 -
Yes thisIt's not cool to bash men. It's not cool to bash women.
Love to all of you. :flowerforyou:0 -
It's just a reflection of society. It's fashionable to bash men. It's sexist to bash women. Women have gained a lot of well deserved ground in the last few decades, but they have proven to be less than perfect with their new found power. Ironically, abuse of power was always their complaint about men. Women say some pretty horrible things and laugh about it; things that would get a man in a ton of trouble. I'm hoping to someday see the pendulum settle in the middle. I don't think women would much like a world without us, even though it sounds that way sometimes. We (men) wouldn't want a world without them either.
Lolololol. I bet you use the term "Feminazi". Take a look at the current news in India right now and tell me the power pendulum has swung towards women. Oh, and if you think that's just them and not the Western world, I'd be happy to pull out some rape culture and pay gap stats for you. :flowerforyou:
Sorry, I just needed to get it out. That being said, sexism is sexism is sexism and discriminating or bullying or stereotyping based on sex or gender is generally pretty vile.
-Feminist killjoy
LMAO dude chill. Holy crap. Now every man is a rapist...nice
Not all of them, just the ones that look creepy.
Whar about creepy yet awesome undead warlocks like me???
When you're a cartoon (such as yourself) you can't help it if you're bad. You're just drawn that way.0 -
Yes thisIt's not cool to bash men. It's not cool to bash women.
Love to all of you. :flowerforyou:
I think if we don't want the thread to collapse into a debate on sexism we can all just end it like this. Simple and easy.
Love everyone. Be nice to everyone. LET'S BE FRIENDS YAYYYYY!
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The girls just hate because I have such a small *kitten* and the maddest of dance skills.
Jealousy drives them to hate, but I understand it. Tis Christmas - the season of forgiveness.0 -
Yes thisIt's not cool to bash men. It's not cool to bash women.
Love to all of you. :flowerforyou:
I think if we don't want the thread to collapse into a debate on sexism we can all just end it like this. Simple and easy.
Love everyone. Be nice to everyone. LET'S BE FRIENDS YAYYYYY!
/EndThread
Thanks for stepping back from that. :flowerforyou:
(ETA: I do get your points - and I didn't go to an all woman liberal college
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Hahaha. I'll try to keep that in mind. Pay gaps and rape culture are societal issues not reflections on how many men are actually rapists. Le sigh. Am I the only social scientist and/or liberal feminist around? I hate the real world. I miss going to a women's college. NO ONE UNDERSTANDS MEEEEE!:sad:
I'm with you sister! I can quote wage gap stats by gender and race/ethnicity, rape stats, incarceration rates, stats regarding executive and CEO positions by gender and race/ethnicity, and so on. Not to mention the post you were responding to falsely indicates that women have over taken the power structure. Nerdy social scientist and multicultural/social justice educator here
Haters gonna drink their haterade and hate...0 -
It's just a reflection of society. It's fashionable to bash men. It's sexist to bash women. Women have gained a lot of well deserved ground in the last few decades, but they have proven to be less than perfect with their new found power. Ironically, abuse of power was always their complaint about men. Women say some pretty horrible things and laugh about it; things that would get a man in a ton of trouble. I'm hoping to someday see the pendulum settle in the middle. I don't think women would much like a world without us, even though it sounds that way sometimes. We (men) wouldn't want a world without them either.
Lolololol. I bet you use the term "Feminazi". Take a look at the current news in India right now and tell me the power pendulum has swung towards women. Oh, and if you think that's just them and not the Western world, I'd be happy to pull out some rape culture and pay gap stats for you. :flowerforyou:
Sorry, I just needed to get it out. That being said, sexism is sexism is sexism and discriminating or bullying or stereotyping based on sex or gender is generally pretty vile.
-Feminist killjoy
LMAO dude chill. Holy crap. Now every man is a rapist...nice
Not all of them, just the ones that look creepy.
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It's just a reflection of society. It's fashionable to bash men. It's sexist to bash women. Women have gained a lot of well deserved ground in the last few decades, but they have proven to be less than perfect with their new found power. Ironically, abuse of power was always their complaint about men. Women say some pretty horrible things and laugh about it; things that would get a man in a ton of trouble. I'm hoping to someday see the pendulum settle in the middle. I don't think women would much like a world without us, even though it sounds that way sometimes. We (men) wouldn't want a world without them either.
Lolololol. I bet you use the term "Feminazi". Take a look at the current news in India right now and tell me the power pendulum has swung towards women. Oh, and if you think that's just them and not the Western world, I'd be happy to pull out some rape culture and pay gap stats for you. :flowerforyou:
Sorry, I just needed to get it out. That being said, sexism is sexism is sexism and discriminating or bullying or stereotyping based on sex or gender is generally pretty vile.
-Feminist killjoy
LMAO dude chill. Holy crap. Now every man is a rapist...nice
Not all of them, just the ones that look creepy.
Whar about creepy yet awesome undead warlocks like me???
When you're a cartoon (such as yourself) you can't help it if you're bad. You're just drawn that way.
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Haven't really noticed, everyone here is so nice0
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It's internet. We bash left, we bash right then we hug and then we bash some more... like 3rd graders.0
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I'm fairly new to the site and love it however during this very short time I am seeing a bunch of threads where it seems to be a norm to pretty much bash men. Are most of the men on this site bad folks? I have seen more than a few posts where men have been nothing but helpful. Am I missing something? Do they say mean things via emails to you?
Honestly, with all the forums and threads I have read, I really think its all about who can flame who the best. It seems like everyone on here seems to have a pretty loose sense of humor when it comes to that stuff. And the way I see it, if we can take turns making fun of eachother with no hard feeling or feelings hurt in the end, its just good old fun!0 -
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they deserve to be bashed. these men not only eat babies, but they inaccurately input the nutritional info in the MFP database.
thats me! i always forget to log the babies i eat.0 -
No worse than the majority of places of conversation, online or offline.0
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What did you think would happen when you put a bunch of hungry strangers on a forum with anonymity debating views about topics with mostly no true scientific facts to back them up?0
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I can assure you, MFP isn't a man-bashing site. If it seems that way, it might be selection bias on the threads you're reading. I can't even think of any examples that aren't 1) based on someone's relationship drama or 2) a joke. Now, women bashing other women is another story entirely...
This. I see a lot more pandering to men and celebrating how awesome the men are here (not a bad thing, most of the men do seem nice) than any bashing. Not that no one here has ever bashed men in general, but I've never seen it not challenged. There seems to be a lot more vying by women to prove that they are not like "other women" in how much cooler they are than other women.0 -
It's just a reflection of society. It's fashionable to bash men. It's sexist to bash women. Women have gained a lot of well deserved ground in the last few decades, but they have proven to be less than perfect with their new found power. Ironically, abuse of power was always their complaint about men. Women say some pretty horrible things and laugh about it; things that would get a man in a ton of trouble. I'm hoping to someday see the pendulum settle in the middle. I don't think women would much like a world without us, even though it sounds that way sometimes. We (men) wouldn't want a world without them either.
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I make a point to never bash men .....
Unless they're into that sort of thing.
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It's prevalent here because of the male:female ratio heavily favoring women.
Or, if you like: Girls be trippin'
Edited to avoid misogynistic destruction.0 -
I haven't noticed people bashing men. And judging from the majority of responses on this thread it appears the men are not feeling it either. Except a few men that misread things because they have their own personal hurt and issues to deal with (maybe they were hurt by women in relationships as I have read in some of their other posts). It seems to go both ways. The men that complain they are being bashed also bash women (just kind of a lack in self-reflection on that), but I don't take it personally because I can see there are issues there the person is dealing with, and I'm pretty secure with myself.
Something to keep in mind is that if a woman has a bad experience with a man and talks about it, she does not mean all men. I have been harmed by men (when I was a child and there was a power imbalance), but I am also married to a really incredible man and have many male friends. I like men a lot. Sometimes difficult feelings from my past can get triggered and I can feel unheard (not that I usually even say anything because usually I try to be aware that it is not the time and place to bring that up). It's just the reality of life. There are good and harmful people of both genders. I don't see why people want to make it a gender bashing issue. Just because a women talks about a bad experience she had with a man it does not make all men suddenly victims. But, I understand that it is never easy to hear about bad things and it brings up difficult feelings for everyone. So, I'm just going to say it again. Just because a female was hurt by a man or men it does not mean she thinks all men are bad. Men have been some of my greatest allies.
Also, there seems to be some misunderstanding about creepers. Sometimes a specific man can behave in a way that is creepy and uncomfortable. How anyone does not know this is mind blowing. But, that does not mean a woman thinks a man is creepy just because he spoke to her. My first response to all men is that they are a good guy with good intentions. I actually very rarely interpret any sexual component because I am married and not accustomed to interacting with other men in that way. But, when a man says something overtly sexual and/or actually touches me (maybe he is even drunk in a place that drunkenness is not appropriate) then I am definitely not going to be cool with that.0 -
It's just a reflection of society. It's fashionable to bash men. It's sexist to bash women. Women have gained a lot of well deserved ground in the last few decades, but they have proven to be less than perfect with their new found power. Ironically, abuse of power was always their complaint about men. Women say some pretty horrible things and laugh about it; things that would get a man in a ton of trouble. I'm hoping to someday see the pendulum settle in the middle. I don't think women would much like a world without us, even though it sounds that way sometimes. We (men) wouldn't want a world without them either.
Lolololol. I bet you use the term "Feminazi". Take a look at the current news in India right now and tell me the power pendulum has swung towards women. Oh, and if you think that's just them and not the Western world, I'd be happy to pull out some rape culture and pay gap stats for you. :flowerforyou:
-Feminist killjoy
Better suited for groups not the main forums.
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Yeah. This is chit-chat. And the title of the post is about "man bashing". Don't tell me I need to post elsewhere just because you don't like what I have to say or are too lazy or inept to come up with an argument. :laugh:
I didn't say you needed to do anything, I didn't say I didn't like what was posted and I am not looking foran argument. The posts above that I quoted are potiental troll baiting matieral and are likely to cause spiralling arguments.
Oh hell..really people...look up the definition of TROLLING. *facedesks*
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