Shakeology
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Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.
The "load of crap" being that there are better priced items that are comparable to Shakeology?
That is fact, sir; not crap, as listed in the link provided above.0 -
How about you produce the information that disclaims any of the science that SHAKEOLOGY suggest.
The burden of proof doesn't lie with me since I'm not making any claims.
But In order for me to research whether or not SHAKEOLOGY™ cleanses toxins, I'd need to first know the names of the toxins that it cleanses. If you can provide me with the name of a toxin, just one of them, I could begin to validate or invalidate this.
As a consumer I think it's important, so if you could tell me the name of a toxin that'd be great Coach.
Thanks!0 -
OUCH...:noway:Stand your ground Coach
Are you talking to yourself?0 -
[/quote] I think its because some people think they know everything and like to verbally attack people just to make themselves feel better. It happens on EVERY forum. I understand people having different opinions but I dont understand why people have to put their douche hats on. [/quote]
So true & yet so sad; thanks for giving me a laugh
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I think its because some people think they know everything and like to verbally attack people just to make themselves feel better. It happens on EVERY forum. I understand people having different opinions but I dont understand why people have to put their douche hats on.
So true & yet so sad; thanks for giving me a laugh
Maybe you could give some clarity on the questions that are being asked viz a viz the claims being made. Asking for sources or explanations of claims =/= verbal abuse or being a douche.0 -
Stand your ground Coach
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[/quote]I think its because some people think they know everything and like to verbally attack people just to make themselves feel better. It happens on EVERY forum. I understand people having different opinions but I dont understand why people have to put their douche hats on.
So true & yet so sad; thanks for giving me a laugh
Just to be clear even though you're not quoting anyone in particular (I don't feel that you're directing your post at me but I'm posting this as a point of clarity to anyone reading), my questions being asked of Coach are void of any personal attacks. If you spot me making any personal attacks in this thread then please bring it to my attention because I try to conduct myself appropriately.0 -
It's not that.I think its because some people think they know everything and like to verbally attack people just to make themselves feel better. It happens on EVERY forum. I understand people having different opinions but I dont understand why people have to put their douche hats on.
So true & yet so sad; thanks for giving me a laugh
People who make claims need to be able to back up those claims as opposed to avoiding the issue followed by anger and loony self-talk.
This "coach" showed up to clear things up but could not answer a simple question when asked.
REASON?
The claims are bogus.
That's the purpose of these forums.
SEEKING TRUTH:drinker:0 -
Stand your ground Coach
Haha. That gave me a giggle0 -
First Shakology rule of MLM Pyramid building...don't go nuts in front of your prospective down line dupes...:sad:Stand your ground Coach0 -
I don't care if you or anyone else uses this product however to say that it is not worth using is a total lie. The original question is a three part question. Have you used it? How does it taste? Is it worth the money? You have no evidence that this product is not worth the money, and no one can support such a claim, because it is something that is going to effect each person individually. What works for you will not always work for someone else. No one is forced any one to purchase this product or any other product. You don't hear me or another BB Coach suggest any other supplement is not worth its value. IF they are then they don't have a clue as to the meaning of BeachBody's vision.0
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Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.
Umm, I think you have that backwards. But I am not trying to come at you or anything but like the others, I am curious as to the science and studies on this. I've tried looking for hte past 20 minutes and all I can find is the same sales pitch about 70 ingredients, etc. I found a list of ingredients with a lot of herbs but still no study.
I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious as to where we can find these studies and the scientific info on all this.0 -
I don't care if you or anyone else uses this product however to say that it is not worth using is a total lie. The original question is a three part question. Have you used it? How does it taste? Is it worth the money? You have no evidence that this product is not worth the money, and no one can support such a claim, because it is something that is going to effect each person individually. What works for you will not always work for someone else. No one is forced any one to purchase this product or any other product. You don't hear me or another BB Coach suggest any other supplement is not worth its value. IF they are then they don't have a clue as to the meaning of BeachBody's vision.
Nice deflection when asked to provide support for the claims you made with your first post. You really should have stopped at answering the original question, then you would not have been asked to substantiate your claims, which you as of yet, have been unable to do. You did however manage to put the link to your site where you sell the stuff you sneaky little devil you!0 -
I don't care if you or anyone else uses this product however to say that it is not worth using is a total lie.
I also don't care who uses it. I believe personal preference and budget are things that each individual should consider. I also don't believe I ever said that it "wasn't worth it". What I DID claim was that you can get approximate micronutrition and macronutrition using whey protein and a multivitamin, while getting superior forms of some of the micros, at a cheaper cost. You will find that information in this thread and it's supported by research:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/445106-is-shakeology-overpriced0 -
I don't care if you or anyone else uses this product however to say that it is not worth using is a total lie. The original question is a three part question. Have you used it? How does it taste? Is it worth the money? You have no evidence that this product is not worth the money, and no one can support such a claim, because it is something that is going to effect each person individually. What works for you will not always work for someone else. No one is forced any one to purchase this product or any other product. You don't hear me or another BB Coach suggest any other supplement is not worth its value. IF they are then they don't have a clue as to the meaning of BeachBody's vision.
We are asking for scientific proof/studies to back up what you are saying...which would be backing up what Beachbody is saying. If you don't know, then just admit you don't know and that all you DO know is that it worked for you.
How you've worded your argument and the defensiveness you've taken, to be honest, has completely turned me off to any possibility that this is but just a fancy shake and any other food intake would be just as good as replacing the meal with this. In fact, it kind of sounds scary cult-ish the way you now are talking about the "meaning" of Beachbody's vision....Just saying.
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It's very difficult to get a goodly amount of potassium from anything but a natural, perishable source.
Shakeology is on par with other powders, has very little in comparison to fresh bananas and coconut water.0 -
Forget BeachBody's "vision".I don't care if you or anyone else uses this product however to say that it is not worth using is a total lie. The original question is a three part question. Have you used it? How does it taste? Is it worth the money? You have no evidence that this product is not worth the money, and no one can support such a claim, because it is something that is going to effect each person individually. What works for you will not always work for someone else. No one is forced any one to purchase this product or any other product. You don't hear me or another BB Coach suggest any other supplement is not worth its value. IF they are then they don't have a clue as to the meaning of BeachBody's vision.
I could make the same case for river silt.
The claims you made about your product can not be validated.
You posted those claims; back them up.0 -
I don't care if you or anyone else uses this product however to say that it is not worth using is a total lie. The original question is a three part question. Have you used it? How does it taste? Is it worth the money? You have no evidence that this product is not worth the money, and no one can support such a claim, because it is something that is going to effect each person individually. What works for you will not always work for someone else. No one is forced any one to purchase this product or any other product. You don't hear me or another BB Coach suggest any other supplement is not worth its value. IF they are then they don't have a clue as to the meaning of BeachBody's vision.
Coach, I am still curious about the toxins that Shakeology cleanses. You've been asked this very simple (and reasonable) question several times and have so far deflected and attacked the people asking these questions.
I find that I have two choices: either to believe that you do not know about your own product, or to believe that no such toxins exist.
As I am charitable enough to believe that you, as a coach and a person selling Shakeology, know your product, I will have to believe your product does not cleanse these unnamed toxins.0 -
I think its because some people think they know everything and like to verbally attack people just to make themselves feel better. It happens on EVERY forum. I understand people having different opinions but I dont understand why people have to put their douche hats on.
So true & yet so sad; thanks for giving me a laugh
Just to be clear even though you're not quoting anyone in particular (I don't feel that you're directing your post at me but I'm posting this as a point of clarity to anyone reading), my questions being asked of Coach are void of any personal attacks. If you spot me making any personal attacks in this thread then please bring it to my attention because I try to conduct myself appropriately.
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No not you and I mean more to the people who are going out of their way to be a douche-asaurus. I also agree that if Coach makes claims he needs to back them up. I am not a beach body coach nor do I ever plan to become one. I simply enjoy the product and it works for me, is there cheaper stuff out there that could work the same? I don't doubt it. I like to stick to what works for ME. I first joined the beach body site when I first started my weight loss journey. I picked my own coach because I had been following her group on Facebook. She told me about this site and I came here and have been here since. While some coaches may speak out of their bum I'm lucky that the girl I found was pretty awesome. She isn't pushy or a know-it-all and doesnt try to bug me about buying stuff but she inspired me to get my butt into shape, AFTER I had already purchased shakeology for myself from somebody else. Plus she has a nice bum.
I think the OP should do what works for her and fits into her budget.0 -
learn about nutrition and fitness and don't rely on supplements and lotions and potions for your success. Real food is always the best. This stuff is overpriced and unless you plan to do it for life, not worth the yoyoing. You obviously know what you are doing based on the results you have had so far. Keep it up,0
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Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.
Umm, I think you have that backwards. But I am not trying to come at you or anything but like the others, I am curious as to the science and studies on this. I've tried looking for hte past 20 minutes and all I can find is the same sales pitch about 70 ingredients, etc. I found a list of ingredients with a lot of herbs but still no study.
I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious as to where we can find these studies and the scientific info on all this.
when i search google or bing for "shakeology scam", all i can find are intentionally deceptive websites which once you visit, are simply sales pitches for the product, some even including links on how/where to purchase it.
that seems pretty fishy to me. if the product is so great, why are the sellers of the product creating deceptive websites that clutter up the search engine results so that any real dissenting opinions about it cannot be easily found?
well, i actually know the answer... :bigsmile:
...it's because these people are trying to make a quick buck and they don't want anything on the web that counters their sales pitch to be found by potential "customers", knowing that most people will not sort through 100's of links to find the handful of sites where somebody actual reviews the product objectively.
i understand this. people will go to great lengths to make a buck. but as somebody who considers himself an informed consumer, this raises all sorts of red flags. just sayin'.0 -
Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.
Umm, I think you have that backwards. But I am not trying to come at you or anything but like the others, I am curious as to the science and studies on this. I've tried looking for hte past 20 minutes and all I can find is the same sales pitch about 70 ingredients, etc. I found a list of ingredients with a lot of herbs but still no study.
I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious as to where we can find these studies and the scientific info on all this.
when i search google or bing for "shakeology scam", all i can find are intentionally deceptive websites which once you visit, are simply sales pitches for the product, some even including links on how/where to purchase it.
that seems pretty fishy to me. if the product is so great, why are the sellers of the product creating deceptive websites that clutter up the search engine results so that any real dissenting opinions about it cannot be easily found?
well, i actually know the answer... :bigsmile:
...it's because these people are trying to make a quick buck and they don't want anything on the web that counters their sales pitch to be found by potential "customers", knowing that most people will not sort through 100's of links to find somebody actually reviewing at the product objectively.
i understand this. people will go to great lengths to make a buck. but as somebody who considers himself an informed consumer, this raises all sorts of red flags. just sayin'.
I don't think its a scam by any means. I imagine its overpriced because it has the BB name attached to it.0 -
I know a guy at work who swears by this stuff. he is an intelligent guy and is totally into the whole BB scene. He is having great success. I dont tell him that it is his caloric deficit and hard work and not so much the shakes. He would not hear it and I see no reason to rub his nose in the fact that my shakes (whey, almond milk and creatine) and my multi vitamin are much cheaper and I too am having success.
I am glad he is having success. He is happier and generally a better co worker now.
If he needs to believe that shakeology plays a big part of it, so what?0 -
If he needs to believe that shakeology plays a big part of it, so what?
Agreed.
If a discussion broke out with your coworkers where they were talking about the pros and cons of his shakeology, would you contribute that you are also having great success with a less expensive option, considering that some of your coworkers may be spending their money on it?
Not posting this to bust your balls, I'm trying to differentiate why I think it's important in a public forum to present reasonable information so people can make objective decisions.0 -
Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.
Umm, I think you have that backwards. But I am not trying to come at you or anything but like the others, I am curious as to the science and studies on this. I've tried looking for hte past 20 minutes and all I can find is the same sales pitch about 70 ingredients, etc. I found a list of ingredients with a lot of herbs but still no study.
I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious as to where we can find these studies and the scientific info on all this.
when i search google or bing for "shakeology scam", all i can find are intentionally deceptive websites which once you visit, are simply sales pitches for the product, some even including links on how/where to purchase it.
that seems pretty fishy to me. if the product is so great, why are the sellers of the product creating deceptive websites that clutter up the search engine results so that any real dissenting opinions about it cannot be easily found?
well, i actually know the answer... :bigsmile:
...it's because these people are trying to make a quick buck and they don't want anything on the web that counters their sales pitch to be found by potential "customers", knowing that most people will not sort through 100's of links to find somebody actually reviewing at the product objectively.
i understand this. people will go to great lengths to make a buck. but as somebody who considers himself an informed consumer, this raises all sorts of red flags. just sayin'.
I don't think its a scam by any means. I imagine its overpriced because it has the BB name attached to it.
scam as in completely worthless snake oil? no, probably not.
scam as in overpriced, and not the only way to get the same results? maybe.
one of the hallmarks of a MLM "scam" is that the products being sold tend to be of inferior quality, do not live up to their promises, and cost more than similar products on the market.
i just find it telling that lots of shakeology sellers are creating intentionally deceptive websites about the product to lure people in, and then are doing a 180 and giving them the hard sell on those same websites. if the product was so great, why the deception? it'd be akin to a tobacco company buying the domain www.tobaccokills.com and then posting a website there singing the praises of smoking as a recreational activity with links to where cigarettes can be purchased, IMHO.0 -
Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.
Umm, I think you have that backwards. But I am not trying to come at you or anything but like the others, I am curious as to the science and studies on this. I've tried looking for hte past 20 minutes and all I can find is the same sales pitch about 70 ingredients, etc. I found a list of ingredients with a lot of herbs but still no study.
I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious as to where we can find these studies and the scientific info on all this.
when i search google or bing for "shakeology scam", all i can find are intentionally deceptive websites which once you visit, are simply sales pitches for the product, some even including links on how/where to purchase it.
that seems pretty fishy to me. if the product is so great, why are the sellers of the product creating deceptive websites that clutter up the search engine results so that any real dissenting opinions about it cannot be easily found?
well, i actually know the answer... :bigsmile:
...it's because these people are trying to make a quick buck and they don't want anything on the web that counters their sales pitch to be found by potential "customers", knowing that most people will not sort through 100's of links to find somebody actually reviewing at the product objectively.
i understand this. people will go to great lengths to make a buck. but as somebody who considers himself an informed consumer, this raises all sorts of red flags. just sayin'.
I don't think its a scam by any means. I imagine its overpriced because it has the BB name attached to it.
I think anything that is sold by pyramid scheme is a scam. If a product is so great then no need to hook people into schemes right?0 -
A shame. The Shakers can't even provide minimal explanation of how their product works.
Christ, a kid selling lemonade on the corner is better at this then the Shake Coaches in this thread. At least the kid can go "Yeah, it's lemonade. My mom buys Country Time and I mix it and if you go to the liquor store you can put vodka in there and make it SPECIAL lemonade!"
Also, MLM scams - you make more money by signing on more employees than you do selling the actual product. Yep, the above poster is right about.0 -
That's good.I know a guy at work who swears by this stuff. he is an intelligent guy and is totally into the whole BB scene. He is having great success. I dont tell him that it is his caloric deficit and hard work and not so much the shakes. He would not hear it and I see no reason to rub his nose in the fact that my shakes (whey, almond milk and creatine) and my multi vitamin are much cheaper and I too am having success.
I am glad he is having success. He is happier and generally a better co worker now.
If he needs to believe that shakeology plays a big part of it, so what?
I am happy for your friend.:drinker:
As for this topic, certain specific claims were made, and when challenged, the "coach" went into orbit instead of just answering the questions.
People expected to pay more for a supposed "superior" product have the right to question claims made regarding these exceptional and expensive shakes.
That's fair.0 -
If he needs to believe that shakeology plays a big part of it, so what?
Agreed.
If a discussion broke out with your coworkers where they were talking about the pros and cons of his shakeology, would you contribute that you are also having great success with a less expensive option, considering that some of your coworkers may be spending their money on it?
Not posting this to bust your balls, I'm trying to differentiate why I think it's important in a public forum to present reasonable information so people can make objective decisions.
sure I would and have. But I guess I am just a wee bit tired of the holier than thou attitudes (not yours btw) of people mocking and being condescending about anything they dont do themselves. And yes, I have been guilty of this myself0 -
That's good.I know a guy at work who swears by this stuff. he is an intelligent guy and is totally into the whole BB scene. He is having great success. I dont tell him that it is his caloric deficit and hard work and not so much the shakes. He would not hear it and I see no reason to rub his nose in the fact that my shakes (whey, almond milk and creatine) and my multi vitamin are much cheaper and I too am having success.
I am glad he is having success. He is happier and generally a better co worker now.
If he needs to believe that shakeology plays a big part of it, so what?
I am happy for your friend.:drinker:
As for this topic, certain specific claims were made, and when challenged, the "coach" went into orbit instead of just answering the questions.
People expected to pay more for a supposed "superior" product have the right to question claims made regarding these exceptional and expensive shakes.
That's fair.
i'd have more respect for the sellers of this product if they just said... "yes, the product is over-priced. no it doesn't live up to all it's claims. yes, there are other ways to get the same nutritional value for a lower price. but i have a garage full of the stuff and i need to pay my mortgage, so please buy some and try it. you might like it."
i can at least respect honesty. i know once people get sucked into the MLM pyramids, it's really hard to get out without taking a financial hit that many can't afford.0
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