Shakeology

Dave198lbs

i'd have more respect for the sellers of this product if they just said... "yes, the product is over-priced. no it doesn't live up to all it's claims. yes, there are other ways to get the same nutritional value for a lower price. but i have a garage full of the stuff and i need to pay my mortgage, so please buy some and try it. you might like it."

i can at least respect honesty.

if they did that, we wouldnt be having this discussion. It is a business. Look at all the absurd products for weight loss bombarding us on this site. This is a billion dollar business and we are all playing a part. The more we learn about actual nutrition, I imagine the less we spend on this kind of stuff.

TheConsciousFoody

Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.

Umm, I think you have that backwards. But I am not trying to come at you or anything but like the others, I am curious as to the science and studies on this. I've tried looking for hte past 20 minutes and all I can find is the same sales pitch about 70 ingredients, etc. I found a list of ingredients with a lot of herbs but still no study.

I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious as to where we can find these studies and the scientific info on all this.ju

when i search google or bing for "shakeology scam", all i can find are intentionally deceptive websites which once you visit, are simply sales pitches for the product, some even including links on how/where to purchase it.

that seems pretty fishy to me. if the product is so great, why are the sellers of the product creating deceptive websites that clutter up the search engine results so that any real dissenting opinions about it cannot be easily found?

well, i actually know the answer... :bigsmile:

...it's because these people are trying to make a quick buck and they don't want anything on the web that counters their sales pitch to be found by potential "customers", knowing that most people will not sort through 100's of links to find somebody actually reviewing at the product objectively.

i understand this. people will go to great lengths to make a buck. but as somebody who considers himself an informed consumer, this raises all sorts of red flags. just sayin'.

I don't think its a scam by any means. I imagine its overpriced because it has the BB name attached to it.

I think anything that is sold by pyramid scheme is a scam. If a product is so great then no need to hook people into schemes right?

We can agree to disagree. Works fine for me and I don't feel scammed. I choose to buy it because I enjoy it, not because somebody is scamming me into it. I also have had success with the workouts offered by them and ive never even paid for those. Sometimes I think the whole "ooooo gluten free is better for you" is a load of crap....and most gluten free products are overpriced. If its so much better for us why is THAT not cheaper so more people can buy it?

PikaKnight

Well, I like ModifiedMama's explanation a few posts up. She admits she doesn't know the studies but that it simply works for her. She knows that there are other things that can equate to what the shake is but the shake works for her so she's sticking to it.

That I can respect.

WinnerVictorious

Well, I like ModifiedMama's explanation a few posts up. She admits she doesn't know the studies but that it simply works for her. She knows that there are other things that can equate to what the shake is but the shake works for her so she's sticking to it.

That I can respect.

yep! give a consumer the necessary information and let them make their choice. it's their money to spend any way they want. works for me. i just have a problem with misinformation.

BTW, i do this all the time in the grocery store. i buy some more expensive name brand items that i just prefer, even though the cheaper store brands work just as well. i assume we all do this.

Sarauk2sf

I know a guy at work who swears by this stuff. he is an intelligent guy and is totally into the whole BB scene. He is having great success. I dont tell him that it is his caloric deficit and hard work and not so much the shakes. He would not hear it and I see no reason to rub his nose in the fact that my shakes (whey, almond milk and creatine) and my multi vitamin are much cheaper and I too am having success.

I am glad he is having success. He is happier and generally a better co worker now.

If he needs to believe that shakeology plays a big part of it, so what?

I personally do not care if someone is using it and if they like the taste and it helps adherence, more power to them. It is up to them if they want to pay a bit more if they like it. Heck, I regularly buy ice-cream that is $12 a pint as I like the taste. The issue I personally have is the wild unsubstantiated claims made by people of it's properties, especially when those people are trying to sell the stuff.

Bobby__Clerici

I know a guy at work who swears by this stuff. he is an intelligent guy and is totally into the whole BB scene. He is having great success. I dont tell him that it is his caloric deficit and hard work and not so much the shakes. He would not hear it and I see no reason to rub his nose in the fact that my shakes (whey, almond milk and creatine) and my multi vitamin are much cheaper and I too am having success.

I am glad he is having success. He is happier and generally a better co worker now.

If he needs to believe that shakeology plays a big part of it, so what?

That's good.
I am happy for your friend.:drinker:
As for this topic, certain specific claims were made, and when challenged, the "coach" went into orbit instead of just answering the questions.
People expected to pay more for a supposed "superior" product have the right to question claims made regarding these exceptional and expensive shakes.
That's fair.

i'd have more respect for the sellers of this product if they just said... "yes, the product is over-priced. no it doesn't live up to all it's claims. yes, there are other ways to get the same nutritional value for a lower price. but i have a garage full of the stuff and i need to pay my mortgage, so please buy some and try it. you might like it."

i can at least respect honesty. i know once people get sucked into the MLM pyramids, it's really hard to get out without taking a financial hit that many can't afford.

You just nailed it.
Again, I have had too many friends get sucked into these MLM pyramid businesses, and all they end up with is shattered hopes and a basement full of worthless inventory.

TheConsciousFoody

Well, I like ModifiedMama's explanation a few posts up. She admits she doesn't know the studies but that it simply works for her. She knows that there are other things that can equate to what the shake is but the shake works for her so she's sticking to it.

That I can respect.

yep! give a consumer the necessary information and let them make their choice. it's their money to spend any way they want. works for me. i just have a problem with misinformation.

BTW, i do this all the time in the grocery store. i buy some more expensive name brand items that i just prefer, even though the cheaper store brands work just as well. i assume we all do this.

I always do that lol. My mom would call me a freak because with all 3 of my kids I only wanted to use huggie diapers and wipes. My SO would get the store brand and I would be like "omg I can't use those! Those are not Huggies!". They are friggen diapers for Gods sake! Horrible I know.

Mokey41

My problem with it is the wild claims. Not sure if that comes directly from the company or just from the "coaches" trying move their supply. I know 2 people who were selling it and it was ridiculous. One guy is 300 lbs when he started. His big push was he lost 9 lbs the first week just drinking 2 shakes a day! Well, duh! He went from consuming 3500+ calories a day to drinking shakes for about 500 calories and then his reasonable supper. Of course he lost weight but the problem is that now a month later he can't stand the site of the things and is eating just like before. My DIL's friend got her hooked up with a month's supply. She used it for a week before she got tired of not eating food and now it's an expensive dust collector on top of her frig.

TheConsciousFoody

My problem with it is the wild claims. Not sure if that comes directly from the company or just from the "coaches" trying move their supply. I know 2 people who were selling it and it was ridiculous. One guy is 300 lbs when he started. His big push was he lost 9 lbs the first week just drinking 2 shakes a day! Well, duh! He went from consuming 3500+ calories a day to drinking shakes for about 500 calories and then his reasonable supper. Of course he lost weight but the problem is that now a month later he can't stand the site of the things and is eating just like before. My DIL's friend got her hooked up with a month's supply. She used it for a week before she got tired of not eating food and now it's an expensive dust collector on top of her frig.

I still eat food. I sometimes have a shake a day. Some days I dont. I don't stop eating and not sure why people would do that? Its not supposed to be used like that.

Dave198lbs

My problem with it is the wild claims. Not sure if that comes directly from the company or just from the "coaches" trying move their supply. I know 2 people who were selling it and it was ridiculous. One guy is 300 lbs when he started. His big push was he lost 9 lbs the first week just drinking 2 shakes a day! Well, duh! He went from consuming 3500+ calories a day to drinking shakes for about 500 calories and then his reasonable supper. Of course he lost weight but the problem is that now a month later he can't stand the site of the things and is eating just like before. My DIL's friend got her hooked up with a month's supply. She used it for a week before she got tired of not eating food and now it's an expensive dust collector on top of her frig.

I still eat food. I sometimes have a shake a day. Some days I dont. I don't stop eating and not sure why people would do that? Its not supposed to be used like that.

it is easier to bash and discredit things when you use extreme examples and take things out of context.

mockchoc

Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.

Umm, I think you have that backwards. But I am not trying to come at you or anything but like the others, I am curious as to the science and studies on this. I've tried looking for hte past 20 minutes and all I can find is the same sales pitch about 70 ingredients, etc. I found a list of ingredients with a lot of herbs but still no study.

I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious as to where we can find these studies and the scientific info on all this.ju

when i search google or bing for "shakeology scam", all i can find are intentionally deceptive websites which once you visit, are simply sales pitches for the product, some even including links on how/where to purchase it.

that seems pretty fishy to me. if the product is so great, why are the sellers of the product creating deceptive websites that clutter up the search engine results so that any real dissenting opinions about it cannot be easily found?

well, i actually know the answer... :bigsmile:

...it's because these people are trying to make a quick buck and they don't want anything on the web that counters their sales pitch to be found by potential "customers", knowing that most people will not sort through 100's of links to find somebody actually reviewing at the product objectively.

i understand this. people will go to great lengths to make a buck. but as somebody who considers himself an informed consumer, this raises all sorts of red flags. just sayin'.

I don't think its a scam by any means. I imagine its overpriced because it has the BB name attached to it.

I think anything that is sold by pyramid scheme is a scam. If a product is so great then no need to hook people into schemes right?

We can agree to disagree. Works fine for me and I don't feel scammed. I choose to buy it because I enjoy it, not because somebody is scamming me into it. I also have had success with the workouts offered by them and ive never even paid for those. Sometimes I think the whole "ooooo gluten free is better for you" is a load of crap....and most gluten free products are overpriced. If its so much better for us why is THAT not cheaper so more people can buy it?

Yes we can agree to disagree, not trying to argue with you just giving my thoughts on pyramid schemes in general. Gluten free goods I believe is only reallyimportant for those with gluten intollerance isn't it? The rest of us don't need to eat any of it on purpose and most of it tastes not as good as the real deal anyway.

rm7161

Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.

Umm, I think you have that backwards. But I am not trying to come at you or anything but like the others, I am curious as to the science and studies on this. I've tried looking for hte past 20 minutes and all I can find is the same sales pitch about 70 ingredients, etc. I found a list of ingredients with a lot of herbs but still no study.

I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious as to where we can find these studies and the scientific info on all this.ju

when i search google or bing for "shakeology scam", all i can find are intentionally deceptive websites which once you visit, are simply sales pitches for the product, some even including links on how/where to purchase it.

that seems pretty fishy to me. if the product is so great, why are the sellers of the product creating deceptive websites that clutter up the search engine results so that any real dissenting opinions about it cannot be easily found?

well, i actually know the answer... :bigsmile:

...it's because these people are trying to make a quick buck and they don't want anything on the web that counters their sales pitch to be found by potential "customers", knowing that most people will not sort through 100's of links to find somebody actually reviewing at the product objectively.

i understand this. people will go to great lengths to make a buck. but as somebody who considers himself an informed consumer, this raises all sorts of red flags. just sayin'.

I don't think its a scam by any means. I imagine its overpriced because it has the BB name attached to it.

I think anything that is sold by pyramid scheme is a scam. If a product is so great then no need to hook people into schemes right?

We can agree to disagree. Works fine for me and I don't feel scammed. I choose to buy it because I enjoy it, not because somebody is scamming me into it. I also have had success with the workouts offered by them and ive never even paid for those. Sometimes I think the whole "ooooo gluten free is better for you" is a load of crap....and most gluten free products are overpriced. If its so much better for us why is THAT not cheaper so more people can buy it?

Yes we can agree to disagree, not trying to argue with you just giving my thoughts on pyramid schemes in general. Gluten free goods I believe is only reallyimportant for those with gluten intollerance isn't it? The rest of us don't need to eat any of it on purpose and most of it tastes not as good as the real deal anyway.

Its not a load of crap if you have celiac disease, which I have.

I guess some people think insulin is a load of crap for type 1 diabetics but its still the best treatment for it, too. Likewise, gluten free diet is the only way to treat celiac disease. ONLY way. And I sure as heck do not want to have the bowel troubles I had before diagnosis, thank you.

Yes, I am aware of the price gouging of gluten free products, but there are loads of items at the grocery that do not contain gluten that are naturally gluten free. Besides, most of the gluten free junkfood is crap anyway, no good for dieting. Unfortunately, many powders are not gluten free certified and that makes them useless for my purposes as they will aggravate my disease. Which when I eat gluten, my body makes antibodies which then proceed to attack the lining of my small intestine, causing interference with absorbtion of vitamins, and cause me to have uncontrollable diarrhea. So I guess its true, if I don't eat GF, I end up with a load of crap.

mockchoc

Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.

Umm, I think you have that backwards. But I am not trying to come at you or anything but like the others, I am curious as to the science and studies on this. I've tried looking for hte past 20 minutes and all I can find is the same sales pitch about 70 ingredients, etc. I found a list of ingredients with a lot of herbs but still no study.

I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious as to where we can find these studies and the scientific info on all this.ju

when i search google or bing for "shakeology scam", all i can find are intentionally deceptive websites which once you visit, are simply sales pitches for the product, some even including links on how/where to purchase it.

that seems pretty fishy to me. if the product is so great, why are the sellers of the product creating deceptive websites that clutter up the search engine results so that any real dissenting opinions about it cannot be easily found?

well, i actually know the answer... :bigsmile:

...it's because these people are trying to make a quick buck and they don't want anything on the web that counters their sales pitch to be found by potential "customers", knowing that most people will not sort through 100's of links to find somebody actually reviewing at the product objectively.

i understand this. people will go to great lengths to make a buck. but as somebody who considers himself an informed consumer, this raises all sorts of red flags. just sayin'.

I don't think its a scam by any means. I imagine its overpriced because it has the BB name attached to it.

I think anything that is sold by pyramid scheme is a scam. If a product is so great then no need to hook people into schemes right?

We can agree to disagree. Works fine for me and I don't feel scammed. I choose to buy it because I enjoy it, not because somebody is scamming me into it. I also have had success with the workouts offered by them and ive never even paid for those. Sometimes I think the whole "ooooo gluten free is better for you" is a load of crap....and most gluten free products are overpriced. If its so much better for us why is THAT not cheaper so more people can buy it?

Yes we can agree to disagree, not trying to argue with you just giving my thoughts on pyramid schemes in general. Gluten free goods I believe is only reallyimportant for those with gluten intollerance isn't it? The rest of us don't need to eat any of it on purpose and most of it tastes not as good as the real deal anyway.

Its not a load of crap if you have celiac disease, which I have.

I hope that wasn'y directed at me because I NEVER said it's crap for people that get sick from it only that it's not really going to be of any use to those that are totally healthy!

rm7161

Most likely the large load of crap you're propagating.

Umm, I think you have that backwards. But I am not trying to come at you or anything but like the others, I am curious as to the science and studies on this. I've tried looking for hte past 20 minutes and all I can find is the same sales pitch about 70 ingredients, etc. I found a list of ingredients with a lot of herbs but still no study.

I'm not being snarky, I'm really curious as to where we can find these studies and the scientific info on all this.ju

when i search google or bing for "shakeology scam", all i can find are intentionally deceptive websites which once you visit, are simply sales pitches for the product, some even including links on how/where to purchase it.

that seems pretty fishy to me. if the product is so great, why are the sellers of the product creating deceptive websites that clutter up the search engine results so that any real dissenting opinions about it cannot be easily found?

well, i actually know the answer... :bigsmile:

...it's because these people are trying to make a quick buck and they don't want anything on the web that counters their sales pitch to be found by potential "customers", knowing that most people will not sort through 100's of links to find somebody actually reviewing at the product objectively.

i understand this. people will go to great lengths to make a buck. but as somebody who considers himself an informed consumer, this raises all sorts of red flags. just sayin'.

I don't think its a scam by any means. I imagine its overpriced because it has the BB name attached to it.

I think anything that is sold by pyramid scheme is a scam. If a product is so great then no need to hook people into schemes right?

We can agree to disagree. Works fine for me and I don't feel scammed. I choose to buy it because I enjoy it, not because somebody is scamming me into it. I also have had success with the workouts offered by them and ive never even paid for those. Sometimes I think the whole "ooooo gluten free is better for you" is a load of crap....and most gluten free products are overpriced. If its so much better for us why is THAT not cheaper so more people can buy it?

Yes we can agree to disagree, not trying to argue with you just giving my thoughts on pyramid schemes in general. Gluten free goods I believe is only reallyimportant for those with gluten intollerance isn't it? The rest of us don't need to eat any of it on purpose and most of it tastes not as good as the real deal anyway.

Its not a load of crap if you have celiac disease, which I have.

I hope that wasn'y directed at me because I NEVER said it's crap for people that get sick from it only that it's not really going to be of any use to those that are totally healthy!

Not directed at you particularly. But it is annoying to see the person you were responding to, pretending that celiac disease doesnt exist. It is a real autoimmune disease.

abrahamsitososa

I've tried the chocolate and the greenberry ones. The chocolate is good with almond or rice milk and the greenberry to me tasted good with just plain water. The price is not worth it to me and yes it's overpriced.

katy84o

Stand your ground Coach

Are you talking to yourself?

lol.. my exact thoughts

rm7161

We can agree to disagree. Works fine for me and I don't feel scammed. I choose to buy it because I enjoy it, not because somebody is scamming me into it. I also have had success with the workouts offered by them and ive never even paid for those. Sometimes I think the whole "ooooo gluten free is better for you" is a load of crap....and most gluten free products are overpriced. If its so much better for us why is THAT not cheaper so more people can buy it?

ModifiedMama, look up celiac disease.

Diabetic foods are also higher priced, these items are for people who cannot eat gluten in the same way that sugar free candies are meant for people who have to control their blood sugars. They are not better for you if you do not have the disease these foods are meant to treat.

HOWEVER, I expect items that are sold as a nutritional supplement, such as vitamins, and over the counter medications, to be gluten free and rightly so. Designer Whey is certified GF and its also cheaper than Shakeology, even with the added items I put in it. (I buy many of the things that go in my shakes for other uses, such as baking so I have them on hand anyway)

katy84o

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mockchoc

Stand your ground Coach

Are you talking to yourself?

lol.. my exact thoughts

Maybe the coach was being coached from the next up the ladder.