Carb Addict!!!!
Replies
-
Athletes, bodybuilders et al. have long abused the fact that simple sugars create insulin spikes with no problem with obesity.0
-
eat real carbs, not junk food
fruit and veggies are perfect carbs
0 -
I am a food addict. I have my favorites including the sugar sweet stuff too and really there is no quick fix. You are not going to quit craving this stuff overnight. I still have times where I am a hungry hungry hippo and can't get enough food. But in times like that it how you react. Do you go for the whole gallon of ice cream or grab an apple and take a walk. That's what you have to do. I am not going to say with time you will be fine. Because that's not true, if you keep making the right choices your likelihood of loosing is better but even with time you will still have cravings it's a normal thing.0
-
What would a "fake" carb be, exactly?eat real carbs, not junk food
fruit and veggies are perfect carbs0 -
My statement holds validity whether I explain or not. You're confusing your trust process with something else.
The sugar in a little debbie is not the same sugar you get from a fresh fruit. One has completely empty unnatural sugars your body will turn immediately into toxic fat because your body isn't sure what to do with it, the other is nutrient rich and immediately burnable. Plus fruit contains fiber that aides in digestion where a little debbie just "sticks to your thighs".
The only thing true in that paragraph is fruit contains fiber.
If you're going to disagree, at least explain why.. otherwise your statement holds no validity.
Here's my research: http://www.fruitsandveggiesmorematters.org/sugar-in-fruit-vs-table-sugar
Where is yours?
Ok, I'll explain why. I'll even read your source.
You write "The sugar in a little debbie is not the same sugar you get from a fresh fruit"
Your sources says "The primary sugar in fruit is fructose". This is patently false - it really depends on the fruit. For example, apricot sugars are mostly sucrose. The same is true for peach, pineapples, carrots and, of course, beets. (Source: memory - but you can read about sugar levels in specific fruit anywhere) Beets are obvious because the are used to manufacture "sucrose".
You say "one has complete empty unnatural sugars your body will turn immediately into toxic fat"
Sucrose is not an unnatural sugar, even HFCS is not unnatural. It's processed, but the sucrose, fructose and other sugar molecules are the same. The processing and purification only removes other thing, it does not alter the chemical composition of these sugars.
Empty? Of what, these are pretty good calorie sources and acceptable as such. Are they lacking in micronutrients? Certainly, but so are many of the things you eat. It's ok, in reasonable quantities. (Like your source says)
Are these sugars turned immediately into toxic fat? Wut? Your source doesn't say that. At all. In fact, sucrose is broken down in the body into.... fructose and glucose. Which are in turn used as energy sources - actual needs, plasma and muscle levels determine if these sugars are going to be stored as such, converted to energy or stored as lipids. There is nothing instant about it. Finally fats are not toxic. Without fat every single cell in your body would be dead, or actually non existent. Lipids make up the cell walls. (Source basic biology)
Immediately burnable? Nope, wrong again. Fruit digestion takes from 1, 2-4 hrs. These is why gel blocks of glucose or other sugars are consumed by athletes for immediate availability. Btw, nothing burns in the body - I understand it is a metaphor, but it's wrong. While ATP generation is and oxidative process like combustion, it is a reversible chemical process. (Again source: basic biology)
My "trust process"...? To me you we're just being a that "well actually" guy for no reason. I was trying to help someone not assert my mental dominance. We're aren't here to bash or attack each other, but welcome to the internet I suppose.
Let me further explain my statement then lets call it quits because I won't be continuing this conversation with you or anyone else (aka Mr. "Burn") who isn't here to actually help people.
I asked you to explain your response because it didn't offer advice to the original poster or any of the people seeking advice, you only responded to attack/correct me. And I say "attack" because it had no substance except to damage my comment.
Now on a few points: "The sugar you get from a Little Debbie is not the same sugar" you corrected me by saying they are both of the same source. Yes they are, however one is bleached through processes that cause it to become almost pure carbon which then has a chemical affinity or attraction for calcium and the minute that it gets in your blood it immediately attracts all the calcium that's near it and unites with the calcium making the calcium virtually unusable. So then the systems in your body that need the calcium? Can't use it (aka. teeth, bones etc.). To me, that sounds quite toxic and VERY different then the Frucose it started as which is far more natural and easier on your body. Regular sugar damages your organs and prevents bone repair... Fruit however provides energy
"Empty? Of what..." You answered your own question. Nutrients. If you are going to consume sugar? Why consume the kind that is bad for you? And yes it IS bad for you... most highly processed foods are.
"Finally fats are not toxic..." Not all fats no. But then I never said all fats were, you've politely put that into my statement, thank you. However you are wrong. Toxic fat, scientifically known as visceral fat, is the internal fatty tissue which surrounds vital organs such as the heart, liver, kidney and pancreas.
While the presence of excess fat under the skin (also known as subcutaneous fat) is often obvious, toxic fat is buried deep within us, making it harder to gauge how much fat is there. Toxic fat is more dangerous than the fat near the skin. Toxic fat is known to release dangerous levels of chemicals, including hormones, into the body. Because of this, excess toxic fat can lead to heart disease, type 2 diabetes and several cancers. Where do you think the chemicals used to "bleach" sugars go? Our body can't process them like it can natural fructose... What it can't process? Has to go somewhere if not through the bowels? It ends up in our blood stream which then ends up in our tissues and fat. It's one of many triggers for Acne... and yet a diet that contains fruit clears the skin. Curious...
All I was saying to the girl was.. chose a fruit over a snack cake because the bodies response of the sugar in the two are not the same. Tell me I'm wrong until your blue in the face, but I'd rather see her eat an apple vs. any need to be right.
Yes, trust process. As in you trust a blog or web site that has poor reference and poor info.
I do not wish to come across as attacking you - but am focusing on the information you provided. Which was poor.
Sucrose is now suddenly almost pure carbon and therefore leaches calcium? Please provide us with your "scientific reference" for this.
Your "processed food is bad and sugar is processed so therefore bad" is called a circular argument. You still need to provide how sugar, in reasonable limited quantity is bad. Hint: it isn't.
The rest of your post just makes no sense. Simply because white sugar is not bleached. White is just the color of pure sucrose. No bleach. I really don't know where you get your info, but start looking for other sources.0 -
I wish it were that simple.
For some people food is directly connected to emotions that can cause severe habit forming practices.
This is the point everyone is trying to get you to understand. The desire to eat food is caused by emotions, not the food itself. You are not addicted to carbs, sugar, or any other food. You are eating in response to an underlying cause not related to food. The problem is the behavioral response, not the food or any chemical within the food. It really is that simple.
Okay, well it's not just emotions.. it's more complex then that.
Where does the desire to do drugs, drink alcohol, or smoke come from (the first time you try them)? And when you over indulge in those things.. what happens? Addiction. Many people over eat because they like the way it tastes (which is a chemical reaction with your taste buds and taste receptors), Those tastes are enhanced by insulin spikes which attribute to mood and energy (aka. sugar high.. though not a medical term is very real) when that over indulgence becomes unsustainable for your body it turns to fat (both good and bad) which then can cause real health complications.
I wish this were not the case.. I wish it was just as simple as "control yourself". But it's not. When you lose that ability to stop yourself it's no different then needing another line of coke and it's just as hard to battle, if it wasn't? There wouldn't be an obesity problem in the US. Take one swipe of the internet, there are clinics and retreats for food addictions. It's easier for a person already healthy to dismiss it as self control, I mean I could say the same about a drug addict, "just stop doing it". But unfortunately, that's not reality.
Well, let's see, the urge to try cigarettes, drugs, or alcohol for the first time overwhelming comes from peer pressure and a desire to conform. The substances themselves do not cause you to want them, because you've never had them and have no idea how they are going to make you feel. The addiction comes from the person associating a substance with a certain feeling, then turning to that substance more and more to cope with issues in their life. There are certainly chemical factors to any addiction, but if you actually look at rehab programs, the chemical is a small part of the issue. The chemicals can be released in a matter of days, but the majority of the work in treatment is the behavioral issues and learning how to cope without turning to a substance.
The obesity problem is not a result of food addiction. The obesity problem is a result of people eating more calories than they burn. Every obese person in the US is not addicted to food. And no one is saying "just stop doing it," we're saying figure out the underlying issue that is causing you to turn to food, accept that you also need to alter your behavior, and empower yourself to make the changes rather than just playing the victim card and saying you are helpless.0 -
My statement holds validity whether I explain or not. You're confusing your trust process with something else.
The sugar in a little debbie is not the same sugar you get from a fresh fruit. One has completely empty unnatural sugars your body will turn immediately into toxic fat because your body isn't sure what to do with it, the other is nutrient rich and immediately burnable. Plus fruit contains fiber that aides in digestion where a little debbie just "sticks to your thighs".
The only thing true in that paragraph is fruit contains fiber.
If you're going to disagree, at least explain why.. otherwise your statement holds no validity.
Here's my research: http://www.fruitsandveggiesmorematters.org/sugar-in-fruit-vs-table-sugar
Where is yours?
Ok, I'll explain why. I'll even read your source.
You write "The sugar in a little debbie is not the same sugar you get from a fresh fruit"
Your sources says "The primary sugar in fruit is fructose". This is patently false - it really depends on the fruit. For example, apricot sugars are mostly sucrose. The same is true for peach, pineapples, carrots and, of course, beets. (Source: memory - but you can read about sugar levels in specific fruit anywhere) Beets are obvious because the are used to manufacture "sucrose".
You say "one has complete empty unnatural sugars your body will turn immediately into toxic fat"
Sucrose is not an unnatural sugar, even HFCS is not unnatural. It's processed, but the sucrose, fructose and other sugar molecules are the same. The processing and purification only removes other thing, it does not alter the chemical composition of these sugars.
Empty? Of what, these are pretty good calorie sources and acceptable as such. Are they lacking in micronutrients? Certainly, but so are many of the things you eat. It's ok, in reasonable quantities. (Like your source says)
Are these sugars turned immediately into toxic fat? Wut? Your source doesn't say that. At all. In fact, sucrose is broken down in the body into.... fructose and glucose. Which are in turn used as energy sources - actual needs, plasma and muscle levels determine if these sugars are going to be stored as such, converted to energy or stored as lipids. There is nothing instant about it. Finally fats are not toxic. Without fat every single cell in your body would be dead, or actually non existent. Lipids make up the cell walls. (Source basic biology)
Immediately burnable? Nope, wrong again. Fruit digestion takes from 1, 2-4 hrs. These is why gel blocks of glucose or other sugars are consumed by athletes for immediate availability. Btw, nothing burns in the body - I understand it is a metaphor, but it's wrong. While ATP generation is and oxidative process like combustion, it is a reversible chemical process. (Again source: basic biology)
My "trust process"...? To me you we're just being a that "well actually" guy for no reason. I was trying to help someone not assert my mental dominance. We're aren't here to bash or attack each other, but welcome to the internet I suppose.
Let me further explain my statement then lets call it quits because I won't be continuing this conversation with you or anyone else (aka Mr. "Burn") who isn't here to actually help people.
I asked you to explain your response because it didn't offer advice to the original poster or any of the people seeking advice, you only responded to attack/correct me. And I say "attack" because it had no substance except to damage my comment.
Now on a few points: "The sugar you get from a Little Debbie is not the same sugar" you corrected me by saying they are both of the same source. Yes they are, however one is bleached through processes that cause it to become almost pure carbon which then has a chemical affinity or attraction for calcium and the minute that it gets in your blood it immediately attracts all the calcium that's near it and unites with the calcium making the calcium virtually unusable. So then the systems in your body that need the calcium? Can't use it (aka. teeth, bones etc.). To me, that sounds quite toxic and VERY different then the Frucose it started as which is far more natural and easier on your body. Regular sugar damages your organs and prevents bone repair... Fruit however provides energy
"Empty? Of what..." You answered your own question. Nutrients. If you are going to consume sugar? Why consume the kind that is bad for you? And yes it IS bad for you... most highly processed foods are.
"Finally fats are not toxic..." Not all fats no. But then I never said all fats were, you've politely put that into my statement, thank you. However you are wrong. Toxic fat, scientifically known as visceral fat, is the internal fatty tissue which surrounds vital organs such as the heart, liver, kidney and pancreas.
While the presence of excess fat under the skin (also known as subcutaneous fat) is often obvious, toxic fat is buried deep within us, making it harder to gauge how much fat is there. Toxic fat is more dangerous than the fat near the skin. Toxic fat is known to release dangerous levels of chemicals, including hormones, into the body. Because of this, excess toxic fat can lead to heart disease, type 2 diabetes and several cancers. Where do you think the chemicals used to "bleach" sugars go? Our body can't process them like it can natural fructose... What it can't process? Has to go somewhere if not through the bowels? It ends up in our blood stream which then ends up in our tissues and fat. It's one of many triggers for Acne... and yet a diet that contains fruit clears the skin. Curious...
All I was saying to the girl was.. chose a fruit over a snack cake because the bodies response of the sugar in the two are not the same. Tell me I'm wrong until your blue in the face, but I'd rather see her eat an apple vs. any need to be right.
Yes, trust process. As in you trust a blog or web site that has poor reference and poor info.
I do not wish to come across as attacking you - but am focusing on the information you provided. Which was poor.
Sucrose is now suddenly almost pure carbon and therefore leaches calcium? Please provide us with your "scientific reference" for this.
Your "processed food is bad and sugar is processed so therefore bad" is called a circular argument. You still need to provide how sugar, in reasonable limited quantity is bad. Hint: it isn't.
The rest of your post just makes no sense. Simply because white sugar is not bleached. White is just the color of pure sucrose. No bleach. I really don't know where you get your info, but start looking for other sources.
I had an entire argument with someone on the sugar production process a few months back. They truly believed that bleach was used in the "bleaching" process. And also that white sugar had added chemicals and wasnt simply pure sucrose. Even after posting the actual process with sources they refused to believe me.0 -
I'm off to do a line of ice cream off a stripper's stomach.
Hum.
Actually, that doesn't sound all that bad . . .0 -
And you learn delayed gratification and moderation skills, which are important in almost every aspect of life.Don't tell yourself you can't have it, that often leads to eating a ton of it later. If you want it, have a little but just be in moderation and add it to your log. I eat chocolate or a cookie EVERY single day but I'm losing weight because I just have small amounts and fit it into my daily allotment.
One thing that helps me to have less is to put it off. I want a cookie? Then I can have one. In an hour. When the hour is up I tell myself to wait again for an hour. Usually I will finally have it at some point in the evening but by saying I CAN have it, just later, I don't feel as deprived. Then only having one feels just fine.0 -
I had this happen to me...gained back 10 pounds of the 50 I lost...UGH.
I went cold turkey off the white carbs/refined sugar. Took about a week but after 2 weeks, the cravings are gone. I feel better and I have my energy back. Its not easy, but it can be done if you are determined enough. I was.0 -
I'm off to do a line of ice cream off a stripper's stomach.
Hum.
Actually, that doesn't sound all that bad . . .
Make sure to log the calories from the glitter.0 -
Yeah I agree. A lot of our eating patterns are just that--habits. If you want to change a habit, you have to adopt a new behavior. It will seem difficult and unnatural at first because it's something you're not used to doing, but if you repeat the new behavior long enough eventually that becomes second nature.0
-
I'm off to do a line of ice cream off a stripper's stomach.
Hum.
Actually, that doesn't sound all that bad . . .
Make sure to log the calories from the glitter.
I only consume organic unicorn glitter. Since it's organic it has no calories and is just like steroids.0 -
Okay.
Time for a joke.
An actress and a scientist join MFP and a debate over carb addiction ensues. Oh. Wait. That's real life . . .0 -
I'm a carb addict, too. Those on this list who think carb addiction is just a sweet tooth, or that it's possible to just 'cut out' carbs for a week or two, just don't know what carb addiction is like. It's not that I crave sweets. I like pasta, pastries, potatoes, pizza, bread, rice, corn,- I guess it's all the white foods we're supposed to resist. I can resist - for about half a day. Then I need to get a carb fix or I get irritable. I could actually list in this post the foods I'm willing to eat, but that would get boring for other readers.
The question is how do you recover from a carb addiction. You can't just stop cold turkey - at least, I can't.
You will have to retrain your brain via your taste buds. I understand that it may not be possible for you to do sugar in moderation but realistically speaking, sugar is in a lot of food groups including fruits and vegetables so you will not be able to cut it out completely. Same goes for starchy carbohydrates.
What you can do is reach for sources of carbohydrates (that includes sugar) that are present in foods with a higher fiber content, for example. Eat a fruit instead of drinking its juice. Eat some wholegrain pasta or brown rice rather than a cupcake or pastry.
The brain can be retrained through new habits. It's called plasticity. Just because you *think* you are addicted to a food doesn't mean you cannot change the habit. It takes work, perseverance, and making different choices.
I don't understand people who say, for example, that they cannot live without chocolate or cannot live without potatoes or cannot live without candy. Yes, you can if you choose to. We can work past most things we don't really allow ourselves to do.0 -
You are talking about SUGAR, not carbs. When I think of carbs, I think of things like rice, veggies, etc. If you go back to starches that you find in nature (i.e. not anything in a box or a wrapper), you'll be fine. Good luck! And don't forget nature's "candy" -- fruit! :drinker:0
-
You are talking about SUGAR, not carbs. When I think of carbs, I think of things like rice, veggies, etc. If you go back to starches that you find in nature (i.e. not anything in a box or a wrapper), you'll be fine. Good luck! And don't forget nature's "candy" -- fruit! :drinker:
Sugar IS a carbohydrate.
Fruit is nature's candy with the added benefit of having fiber which most candy does not have.0 -
I STOPPED MY ADDICTION BY WRITING DOWN HOW MANY TIMES I THOUGHT ABOUT FOOD EVERY DAY. I THEN WROTE DOWN HOW MANY TIMES I ACTED ON MY THOUGHTS. WHEN I SAW HOW MANY TIMES I THOUGHT ABOUT FOOD, I REALIZED IT WAS RIDICULOUS AND I NEEDED TO CHANGE MY THOUGHTS. I DRAMATICALLY REDUCED MY THOUGHTS ABOUT FOOD , WHICH ENABLE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TIMES I IMPULSIVELY ACTED ON IT.
YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR THOUGHTS BEFORE YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR. IT HAS WORKED AND I HAVE LOST 130 LBS BY CHANGING MY THOUGHTS AND CONTROLLING MY THOUGHTS.0 -
I STOPPED MY ADDICTION BY WRITING DOWN HOW MANY TIMES I THOUGHT ABOUT FOOD EVERY DAY. I THEN WROTE DOWN HOW MANY TIMES I ACTED ON MY THOUGHTS. WHEN I SAW HOW MANY TIMES I THOUGHT ABOUT FOOD, I REALIZED IT WAS RIDICULOUS AND I NEEDED TO CHANGE MY THOUGHTS. I DRAMATICALLY REDUCED MY THOUGHTS ABOUT FOOD , WHICH ENABLE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TIMES I IMPULSIVELY ACTED ON IT.
YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR THOUGHTS BEFORE YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR. IT HAS WORKED AND I HAVE LOST 130 LBS BY CHANGING MY THOUGHTS AND CONTROLLING MY THOUGHTS.0 -
You are talking about SUGAR, not carbs. When I think of carbs, I think of things like rice, veggies, etc. If you go back to starches that you find in nature (i.e. not anything in a box or a wrapper), you'll be fine. Good luck! And don't forget nature's "candy" -- fruit! :drinker:
This is what sugar looks like naturally...
Sugarcane.
Or...
Sugar beet.
"Nature's candy" indeed.0 -
in….for carb addiction stories...0
-
did not read the whole thread…here is my two cents..
1. OP you are not addicted to carbs.
2. Get some control over your diet and exercise some willpower
3. you are more than likely restricting yourself. Stop labeling foods "good" and "bad"….this leads you to end up binging on said foods.
4. Follow the 80/20 rule…80% healthy; 20% whatever you want - ice cream, pizza, etc
5. you can eat carbs and lose weight. I eat 30% carbs and maintain 11-12% body fat…
over eating makes you gain weight, under eating makes you lose weight..
stop blaming carbs for your dietary failure and man up….0 -
Do you eat your cake and cookies in the bathroom stall too?
I finally feel less alone
youre not alone.
though i had to switch to vanilla frosted cake...i had an unfortunate......"incident" while eating in a bathroom stall
Will you sponsor me and hold my hand?
Or just hold me.....yeah, just hold me. I'll feed you cake in the stall.
Anything you want
im here for you.
no really...open the front blinds. im *here* for you. *with* you....
you have not had a carb addiction until you wake up one morning and realize you sold your house for carbs, and sold the kids to a guy named quan who lives in Thailand….true store, happened to me…don't eat carbs.0 -
Not gonna lie I totally thought this said you were a CRAB addict. It was much more interesting thinking you couldn't have your insane desire for crustaceans satiated.
:flowerforyou: I thought it would be much more interesting, too. And it's crab season here in SF. Had some tasty crab in a Thai dish Friday and leftovers yesterday. Going for more fresh crab tomorrow, I think. But I am not addicted. I am not.0 -
Detox. Srsly. Give yourself a couple of weeks off of the sugar. Instead, eat whole grains and fruit. It'll get easier.
Fruit contains sugar too, how is that 'detox'?
The sugar in a little debbie is not the same sugar you get from a fresh fruit. One has completely empty unnatural sugars your body will turn immediately into toxic fat because your body isn't sure what to do with it, the other is nutrient rich and immediately burnable. Plus fruit contains fiber that aides in digestion where a little debbie just "sticks to your thighs".
oh really? please explain the magical properties of fruit sugar as opposed to regular sugar…they both come from the same source and look the same at the molecular level...0 -
Detox. Srsly. Give yourself a couple of weeks off of the sugar. Instead, eat whole grains and fruit. It'll get easier.
Fruit contains sugar too, how is that 'detox'?
The sugar in a little debbie is not the same sugar you get from a fresh fruit. One has completely empty unnatural sugars your body will turn immediately into toxic fat because your body isn't sure what to do with it, the other is nutrient rich and immediately burnable. Plus fruit contains fiber that aides in digestion where a little debbie just "sticks to your thighs".
If someone is an alcoholic does it matter if the alcohol comes from wine or tequilla?
hey, you stole my line…!
or a better one…if you are addicted to crack, does that mean you can snort cocaine..because cocaine is "natural"(from a plant) but crack is cooked???0 -
I'm new at this, but I'd say taper off. Most "drugs" you are supposed to do that with anyway.. I mean take cigs for example. many people taper off or use substitutes like nicotine gum. and also., like. if i were to get off my antidepressant, my psych doc would make me taper off of that too! cause if carbs are like a drug, you can get side effects if you just quit all together. maybe! IDK!0
-
I am also a huge carboholic, especially right before bed:) Lately I ignore my cravings until I feel like I'm gonna cave then I go for snap peas. They are sweet and crunchy so it helps me curb the need to munch at night as well as my need for sweets. I eat them right from the bag like potato chips and it has been working so far!0
-
ED are a mental illness. Not an addiction issue. I have great respect for what you have gone through, having issues of my own. However, it is harmful to classify mental illness in the context of an addiction to food. Your struggles were the result of an untreated mental illness. :flowerforyou:
I can't agree with you. First, I wish you'd stop being so condescending, it's "harmful" to treat people with disrespect because you have a different opinion of something. We are all adults here and responding with respect is so much more constructive.
Let me respond to this new rebuttal with the resources you've asked for. According to the National Institute of Drug Abuse, addiction is (like you've classified ED) is a mental disorder. By definition "Addiction changes the brain, disturbing the normal hierarchy of needs and desires". This is pretty much what ED is.. even by your definition. Having experienced it to a life threatening degree myself? I know what the symptoms were like... You go though the same steps a drug addict does. Lying, denial, relapses, it's not as cut and paste as it appears you're trying to make it sound. Experts across the nation are likening it to addiction, people who study this clinically and unless you happen to be a doctor? I'm inclined to take their word for it. Just one link of many to proof: http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20538012,00.html
Thank you for respecting what I've gone though, but KNOWING what I've gone though is an incredibly different scenario.
To address your other statement... All I had written was taken directly word for word from the resources I found. Wikipedia (one how sugar is processed) Dr. David Reuben (again a doctor, vs. random person/blog on the internet), Joy Dubost, R.D (nutritionist). All of them state that the way fruit and fruit sugars are used are different then candy and cakes sugars. One comes with nutrients the other does not... one is refined sugar is highly concentrated and has additional chemicals. I never said the chemical compound was changed, it's obviously still sugar, but how it's processed impedes the calcium in your system from repairing bones. This was a direct quote from a doctor... and I've absolutely done my research. I'm not saying you have not? But what information we are supplied is what we have to go on and there are so many varied studies and opinions it's difficult to know what is ever right (hell 5-7 years ago eggs were bad).. Anyway, despite all of this no one is going to tell me that Twinkies are better or equal to apples, I know how my body feels reacting to each over those and only one of them is a big No No.
But, like I said, have your win. As much as I enjoy debating, I prefer doing it with people who are open to talking with each other respectfully vs. battling each other with an air of patronizing superiority. This is about helping others not insulting their intelligence.
No one is insulting your intelligence. I am simply asking you to back up the claims that you have made here (which you are apparently unable to do). Doctor's opinions don't count as evidence. I'd really like to know about the sugar-calcium phenomenon and am still waiting for you on that.
The only condescension I have seen was coming from you. And yes, the relationship you seem to have with food IS dangerous because you are demonizing it in ways that are illogical and unfounded. I hate to see people trying to infect others with their own food fears. Food is neither good nor bad. It is fuel, pure and simple. Our emotional attachments to it can sometimes be problematic, especially if there are deeper pathologies involved, as in the case of eating disorders.0 -
Detox. Srsly. Give yourself a couple of weeks off of the sugar. Instead, eat whole grains and fruit. It'll get easier.
Fruit contains sugar too, how is that 'detox'?
The sugar in a little debbie is not the same sugar you get from a fresh fruit. One has completely empty unnatural sugars your body will turn immediately into toxic fat because your body isn't sure what to do with it, the other is nutrient rich and immediately burnable. Plus fruit contains fiber that aides in digestion where a little debbie just "sticks to your thighs".
If someone is an alcoholic does it matter if the alcohol comes from wine or tequilla?
hey, you stole my line…!
or a better one…if you are addicted to crack, does that mean you can snort cocaine..because cocaine is "natural"(from a plant) but crack is cooked???
Right. This is exactly why some people's genetic make up, or eating habits, can't handle "all things in moderation" which seems to be the general rule here. It's the exact same thing as telling an alcoholic that vodka is bad but wine is okay as long as he/she doesn't go beyond one glass.
If the OP has an issue with being a "carboholic" then heck, reduce the carbs/sweet foods or, at the very least, modify where you are getting your carbs from so you include more fiber and less snacky crap. Moderation does not work for everyone.0
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.6K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.3K Health and Weight Loss
- 176K Food and Nutrition
- 47.5K Recipes
- 232.6K Fitness and Exercise
- 431 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.6K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8.1K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.4K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.8K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.2K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions