Does the weight loss count if they had surgery?

MaryJane_8810002
MaryJane_8810002 Posts: 2,082 Member
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I saw this question on the Success board and it kind of made me think. I remember last May I dreaded going to a personal training session so I called my health insurance company. I knew I was too small for Gastric Bypass so I asked them if they would foot the bill for Lap Band surgery. Of course they told me no, but a heavier relative qualified under her health insurance. I ask this question because I met someone that had the surgery. They had the band removed to conceive and once everything "settled" down she ended up gaining 141 pounds. So I ask for your opinion, do you think their weight loss counts if they had surgery?
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  • milf_n_cookies
    milf_n_cookies Posts: 2,244 Member
    Nope, my 170 lbs doesn't count, even though I worked my *kitten* off for it, and continue to do so every.single.day in order to maintain it.
  • ArtGeek22
    ArtGeek22 Posts: 1,429 Member
    It all depends if they lost weight because of the surgery or because of a lifestyle change AND the surgery. If it is the latter then I think it counts (^_^)
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    The weight is gone....so yeah.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    And to add: Weight loss isn't a competition. Whether a person had surgery or lost it through diet and exercise alone is irrelevant. We should be celebrating the fact that they DID lose that much weight and improved their quality of life, and their lifespan.
  • ArtGeek22
    ArtGeek22 Posts: 1,429 Member
    And to add: Weight loss isn't a competition. Whether a person had surgery or lost it through diet and exercise alone is irrelevant. We should be celebrating the fact that they DID lose that much weight and improved their quality of life, and their lifespan.


    Yes!!! Perfectly worded (^_^)
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    And to add: Weight loss isn't a competition. Whether a person had surgery or lost it through diet and exercise alone is irrelevant. We should be celebrating the fact that they DID lose that much weight and improved their quality of life, and their lifespan.


    Yes!!! Perfectly worded (^_^)

    Thank you, I was quite proud of it after I typed it. :tongue:
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    And to add: Weight loss isn't a competition. Whether a person had surgery or lost it through diet and exercise alone is irrelevant. We should be celebrating the fact that they DID lose that much weight and improved their quality of life, and their lifespan.


    Yes!!! Perfectly worded (^_^)

    This beats my answer which was "Why are you being Judgy-McJudgerson?"
  • Natihilator
    Natihilator Posts: 1,778 Member
    The only time weight loss doesn't count is when it's...found again :tongue:
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Counts, in what context?
  • MaryJane_8810002
    MaryJane_8810002 Posts: 2,082 Member
    And to add: Weight loss isn't a competition. Whether a person had surgery or lost it through diet and exercise alone is irrelevant. We should be celebrating the fact that they DID lose that much weight and improved their quality of life, and their lifespan.


    Yes!!! Perfectly worded (^_^)


    This beats my answer which was "Why are you being Judgy-McJudgerson?"

    Not judging just quoting a question from the success thread.
  • pinky_pie
    pinky_pie Posts: 127
    So a fat person gets shamed for being fat, and then he or she gets shamed for having weight loss surgery and losing the weight?

    That is a large cup of WTF.
  • darisey
    darisey Posts: 228 Member
    And to add: Weight loss isn't a competition. Whether a person had surgery or lost it through diet and exercise alone is irrelevant. We should be celebrating the fact that they DID lose that much weight and improved their quality of life, and their lifespan.

    Agreed! :)
  • billsica
    billsica Posts: 4,741 Member
    As long as we are on earth then yes.
    If you are on the moon then not so much.
  • AlyssaJoJo
    AlyssaJoJo Posts: 449 Member
    A lot of people think WLS is taking the easy way out. Talk to people who have had it and you'll see it's anything but the easy way out.
  • milf_n_cookies
    milf_n_cookies Posts: 2,244 Member
    As long as we are on earth then yes.
    If you are on the moon then not so much.

    That made me literally LOL I'm a total nerd, don't judge me for it, just judge me case I had WLS :)
  • NZhellkat
    NZhellkat Posts: 355 Member
    Weight loss is weight loss. Whether trough surgery or hard work and a better diet. What counts most is whether or not they make a lifestyle change and continue with it. That's what matters to me about my life.
  • Natihilator
    Natihilator Posts: 1,778 Member
    I remember last May I dreaded going to a personal training session so I called my health insurance company. I knew I was too small for Gastric Bypass so I asked them if they would foot the bill for Lap Band surgery.

    And also, I hope you've sorted yourself out here because inquiring about a serious surgery just because you don't want to go to a PT session is all sorts of wrong when it comes to having a good mindset about healthy, long-term weight loss.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    And to add: Weight loss isn't a competition. Whether a person had surgery or lost it through diet and exercise alone is irrelevant. We should be celebrating the fact that they DID lose that much weight and improved their quality of life, and their lifespan.


    Yes!!! Perfectly worded (^_^)

    ^^yep
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    A lot of people think WLS is taking the easy way out. Talk to people who have had it and you'll see it's anything but the easy way out.

    I saw a British doco that followed two people who had weight-loss surgery, one guy had to LOSE over 120lbs (57kg I think it was) before the doctors would even do the surgery.

    I personally wouldn't have weight-loss surgery.

    It doesn't look like a fun way to lose weight, but it's a tool, not a solution... of course it COUNTS.

    As with any weight-loss maintenance is important, and a completely different skill set to learn.
  • PunkyRachel
    PunkyRachel Posts: 1,959 Member
    Yes it counts! I have a long time friend who in her 20's was about 430ish pounds, also had a ton of health problems she had gastric bypass surgery 3 years ago and is now about 150 pounds and healthy. I am so proud of her for doing it and following through. She just announced she's pregnant, before dropping the weight she was told she couldn't have kids, heck she wasn't even having periods back then. So yes in my opinion it counts, go for it and be a healthier you!
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    Nope, it's against the rules. They are automatically disqualified from the competition.
  • baycat107
    baycat107 Posts: 165 Member
    Counts for what? We're not competing. I guess if she wants to count it, she should.
  • MaryJane_8810002
    MaryJane_8810002 Posts: 2,082 Member
    I remember last May I dreaded going to a personal training session so I called my health insurance company. I knew I was too small for Gastric Bypass so I asked them if they would foot the bill for Lap Band surgery.

    And also, I hope you've sorted yourself out here because inquiring about a serious surgery just because you don't want to go to a PT session is all sorts of wrong when it comes to having a good mindset about healthy, long-term weight loss.

    That was almost a year ago. It is obvious that I have done better judging by my success...also the gym fired the personal trainer.
  • baycat107
    baycat107 Posts: 165 Member
    Nope, it's against the rules. They are automatically disqualified from the competition.


    lol
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    If you lose it with raspberry ketones, does that count?
  • katmix
    katmix Posts: 296 Member
    I saw this question on the Success board and it kind of made me think. I remember last May I dreaded going to a personal training session so I called my health insurance company. I knew I was too small for Gastric Bypass so I asked them if they would foot the bill for Lap Band surgery. Of course they told me no, but a heavier relative qualified under her health insurance. I ask this question because I met someone that had the surgery. They had the band removed to conceive and once everything "settled" down she ended up gaining 141 pounds. So I ask for your opinion, do you think their weight loss counts if they had surgery?

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    Seriously, the thought popped into my head... Do my kids "count" because I birthed them surgically (c-sections) or not? So to me, this question is a big "Duh"...

    Just had to edit and wonder why you're worrying about this since you have lost weight (presumably through exercise and good eating habits)... ??

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  • jayliospecky
    jayliospecky Posts: 25,022 Member
    Nope, it's against the rules. They are automatically disqualified from the competition.

    Yup. And I have a big red stamp I can use to mark FAIL on their papers. Or on their foreheads, if they didn't hand in their papers.

    Sometimes I miss teaching.
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member

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    Does it matter as part of a success story, is a completely different question than "Does it count."
  • Clauduchinno
    Clauduchinno Posts: 26
    It all counts, but I don't necessarily agree with it.

    I think that you need to learn motivation to lose weight, and anyone and everyone CAN. They just need to be educated on how to do so.

    One of my friends recently had that stomach banding surgery and lost 108kg in a matter of months. She didn't look too healthy and was always complaining about how dizzy she felt and all the mood swings she was getting. She couldn't eat anymore than 1 small meal a day and just wasn't as happy and bubbly as she used to be. It was affecting her relationships at home and at work.

    I personally think that if she would've done it the right way, yes it would've been slower to lose the weight but the experience would have been a lot more comfortable. It also is just totally unnatural to get surgery to lose weight, there definitely has to be a catch.
  • katmix
    katmix Posts: 296 Member
    Nope, it's against the rules. They are automatically disqualified from the competition.

    This made me laugh out loud! :)

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