5 Truths about weight loss and people in general...
zaxx1953
Posts: 389 Member
1) People want to be lied to about weight maintenance and health. They want to hear that they do not need to devote time/energy to working out/activities in great amounts, but can still lose gobs of weight and better yet KEEP IT OFF. They want to hear that they won't have to spend time and money and effort preparing and portioning different foods than they eat today....
Don't believe me...?
Ask yourself how many times you hear adverts EXPLICITLY claiming things like:
You won't have to change your lifestyle...
This plan will fit with a busy lifestyle....
You cannot change your schedule so in 60 mins a weeks X.Y.Z....
Eat the foods you like....you're used to and still lose the....
A logical and sane person with critical thinking skills SHOULD THEN ASK THEMSELVES one paramount question-
WHY THEN ARE THERE SO MANY MILLIONS OF OBESE AMERICANS?
2) Most chronically and seriously overweight/obese people (if you are a 140 lbs girl who wants to lose 18 lb to get into a bikini by spring break im not talking to you) have issues with a swingy/spikey insulin response. It is amazing to me people are unaware of this fundamental issue MOST overweight people face.
What does that mean...well, there really is no point going into the minutae of the science(if I even could completely, lol) but basically insulin is a key hormone that regulates hunger//energy/anabolism through the regulation of intercellular movt. of glucose(organic energy).
Swingy insulin folks react more more severely to changes in blood sugar than others and this has 2 important manifestations for those of us who find ourselves chronically overweight:
A) If we do not eat for long stretches, we become RAVENOUSLY almost uncontrollably hungry. Ask yourself this, are you the type who when they skip breakfast can go absolutely nuts at lunch time and easily eat 2 lunches worth of food? If so, im talking to you most likely.
High GI (glycemic index) food, or foods that break down really rapidly in our bodies will cause us to not be full as you might think, but to get more and more hungry until we physically fill up our stomachs with food. Can you eat whole milk and cereal for days our of a salad bowl? **hand goes up**...can you eat pasta forever?....this is what im talking about.
I might go back into this, but if those are the issues/challenges; here are the solutions....
solution A) Eat smaller meals, more frequently throughout the day....NO, not snacks, MEALS. 5-6 meals work best, but even moving from 2-3 to 4 every day will help. I find for most 5 is really effective and for intense lifters/trainees 6 works even better.
A meal has every macronutrient USUALLY, protein, carbs and fats....so no, a special K bar isnt a meal. Perhaps one with fiber, a glass of milk and half a serving of almonds is IF YOUR caloric needs are quite low.
solution Try to limit high GI foods throughout the day allowing for ingesting some upon waking to replenish glycogen stores and after workouts(especially intense/lifting) with protein to help shuttle in nutrients/sugar to the cells when they most need it.
Make sure you have protein and high quality fiber with meals that have carbs...it helps balance out this response or "swing".
Ill work on the other 3 if people enjoy this first post....here is a preview:
3) Why calorie in calorie out is moronic......
4) Yes, you need to exercise more than 20 mins 3x a week...sorry/ yes, you will need resistance work as you get older for holistic health and LONGTERM weight maintenance.
5) You have more lifestyle choices than you probably admit to yourself....a job isnt a life, and you need to be honest about your priorities in life.
Don't believe me...?
Ask yourself how many times you hear adverts EXPLICITLY claiming things like:
You won't have to change your lifestyle...
This plan will fit with a busy lifestyle....
You cannot change your schedule so in 60 mins a weeks X.Y.Z....
Eat the foods you like....you're used to and still lose the....
A logical and sane person with critical thinking skills SHOULD THEN ASK THEMSELVES one paramount question-
WHY THEN ARE THERE SO MANY MILLIONS OF OBESE AMERICANS?
2) Most chronically and seriously overweight/obese people (if you are a 140 lbs girl who wants to lose 18 lb to get into a bikini by spring break im not talking to you) have issues with a swingy/spikey insulin response. It is amazing to me people are unaware of this fundamental issue MOST overweight people face.
What does that mean...well, there really is no point going into the minutae of the science(if I even could completely, lol) but basically insulin is a key hormone that regulates hunger//energy/anabolism through the regulation of intercellular movt. of glucose(organic energy).
Swingy insulin folks react more more severely to changes in blood sugar than others and this has 2 important manifestations for those of us who find ourselves chronically overweight:
A) If we do not eat for long stretches, we become RAVENOUSLY almost uncontrollably hungry. Ask yourself this, are you the type who when they skip breakfast can go absolutely nuts at lunch time and easily eat 2 lunches worth of food? If so, im talking to you most likely.
High GI (glycemic index) food, or foods that break down really rapidly in our bodies will cause us to not be full as you might think, but to get more and more hungry until we physically fill up our stomachs with food. Can you eat whole milk and cereal for days our of a salad bowl? **hand goes up**...can you eat pasta forever?....this is what im talking about.I might go back into this, but if those are the issues/challenges; here are the solutions....
solution A) Eat smaller meals, more frequently throughout the day....NO, not snacks, MEALS. 5-6 meals work best, but even moving from 2-3 to 4 every day will help. I find for most 5 is really effective and for intense lifters/trainees 6 works even better.
A meal has every macronutrient USUALLY, protein, carbs and fats....so no, a special K bar isnt a meal. Perhaps one with fiber, a glass of milk and half a serving of almonds is IF YOUR caloric needs are quite low.
solution
Try to limit high GI foods throughout the day allowing for ingesting some upon waking to replenish glycogen stores and after workouts(especially intense/lifting) with protein to help shuttle in nutrients/sugar to the cells when they most need it.Make sure you have protein and high quality fiber with meals that have carbs...it helps balance out this response or "swing".
Ill work on the other 3 if people enjoy this first post....here is a preview:
3) Why calorie in calorie out is moronic......
4) Yes, you need to exercise more than 20 mins 3x a week...sorry/ yes, you will need resistance work as you get older for holistic health and LONGTERM weight maintenance.
5) You have more lifestyle choices than you probably admit to yourself....a job isnt a life, and you need to be honest about your priorities in life.
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Interesting points. I would like to hear more.0
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Yep to all of these. I'm looking forward to your next post.
And thanks for mentioning those of us with screwed up responses to carbs. All carbs make me ravenously hungry (including plain, unsweetened oatmeal), but sugar is by far the worst. The more sugar I eat, the hungrier I get.0 -
Interesting points. I would like to hear more.
Get me 10 people to ask for another post, and I will post part 3 ....
Try oatmeal with natural PB and a 1/2 serving of vanilla/neutral flavored whey protein mixed in. Also, make it with lowfat milk.....1%.
Now you've added good fats/and lean dairy protein and the taste is phenomenal.
Add some berries for a perfect morning meal packed with quality cals, a good mix of macros(slightly carb heavy bc it is morning) and good protein to help keep nitrogen levels high for those who lift/otherwise place stress on their muscles through training....and we all should be, lol.0 -
I was interested...until you said "calorie in calorie out is moronic."
So I lost 73 pounds putting less calories in and putting more calories out. And I'm not a moron. Tuned you right out.0 -
I am interested in hearing some more of what you have to say.0
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My wife has been low carbing and can't lose weight shes been doing it 4month and lost 2lbs , I eat what i want and lost 136lbs so low carb doesnt work my calories in calories out as you can see works for me0
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I'm interested to hear more and the simple statement of calories in calories out is moronic because it matters a lot what kind of calories you're putting in for one thing lol.0
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I spy the TROLL *wave* :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0
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Tuning anyone right out is a mistake.....anyway, perhaps you should read the section before making any final judgements.
I would, for example, never ever say one cannot lose weight by consuming less than they expend calorically....I would however say acting as if the body is a bank account vis a vis MAINTAINING A HEALTHY WEIGHT FOR LIFE is most often a losing proposition and a specious way of looking at the infinitely complex/manifolld human body.
p.S.
Losing a pile of weight of a short term/medium term isn't my goal...and shouldnt be yours.
I could lose 150 lbs by going to thailand and hiring that soldiers to work me in a mine and feed me 1400 Kcals a day.
Am I to assume that is a efficacious process by which to maintain my health and a healthy bodyweight?
Like I said, people want to hear X, Y and Z....
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IM NOT SAYING KEEPING TRACK OF CALORIES IS BAD/.....IM DOING THAT RIGHT NOW!!0 -
I was interested...until you said "calorie in calorie out is moronic."
So I lost 73 pounds putting less calories in and putting more calories out. And I'm not a moron. Tuned you right out.
^^^ This0 -
I like to think I'm a special snowflake.0
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Yea, I'm good. No need to elaborate.0
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troll thread is trolling.
i hope newbs don't get sucked in.
the OP had so many troll posts deleted by the mods yesterday that he was down to a -1 (minus 1) post count at one point.0 -
someone likes to hear himself talk and stroke his ego with others....hmmmm0
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My wife has been low carbing and can't lose weight shes been doing it 4month and lost 2lbs , I eat what i want and lost 136lbs so low carb doesnt work my calories in calories out as you can see works for me
Did the words "Low Carb" come out of my computer?
If you can eat what you want and maintain a healhty weight, im confused as to why you use this site?0 -
I was interested...until you said "calorie in calorie out is moronic."
So I lost 73 pounds putting less calories in and putting more calories out. And I'm not a moron. Tuned you right out.
Nope...the OP have a point...Just because it worked for you and others does not mean it works for everybody...Calories in calories out worked great for me - I lost 60lbs just by sticking to that....
And then hormones started kicking me around - and for almost a year (and still ) plain simple calories in/out does not work for me anymore.....I now have to balance my hormones (good luck tif you ever have to try that one) balance my macros, eat less calories than what I could a year ago (regardless of exercise) and so on....
"Tuning people out" might not work for you forever either....0 -
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troll thread is trolling.
i hope newbs don't get sucked in.
the OP had so many troll posts deleted by the mods yesterday that he was down to a -1 (minus 1) post count at one point.
Lol, ok, what specifically in my post is FACTUALLY innaccurate?0 -
Two thumbs down.
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Wow, and I kept it to 2 subjects to try and keep it digestible.
GL in life brah!0 -
I'm interested in hearing more.
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I was interested...until you said "calorie in calorie out is moronic."
So I lost 73 pounds putting less calories in and putting more calories out. And I'm not a moron. Tuned you right out.
^^^ This
Yeah..guess my 67lbs lost so far has just been pure coincidence.
And OP - you are really abrasive. You might want to work on how to present your points. Just saying :laugh:0 -
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Wow, and I kept it to 2 subjects to try and keep it digestible.
GL in life brah!
I'm not your "brah"
I just don't think you coming in here, telling everyone that you are right, and there are wrong are worth anyone's time...0 -
OP.... Keep up with the posts...there are a few other misguided children out there in MFP land... an not, they are not Marines.0
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1/10. Would not read again.0
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Wow, and I kept it to 2 subjects to try and keep it digestible.
GL in life brah!
I'm not your "brah"
I just don't think you coming in here, telling everyone that you are right, and there are wrong are worth anyone's time...
There is only ONE way to settle this...DANCE OFF.0 -
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Wow, and I kept it to 2 subjects to try and keep it digestible.
GL in life brah!
I'm not your "brah"
I just don't think you coming in here, telling everyone that you are right, and there are wrong are worth anyone's time...
Yeah. Got to wonder when someone comes in assuming they have all the answers and stomps on the success of so many....0 -
Say what you want to say, but two points of advice before you go any futher
1) Don't call people morons
2) Don't assume or infer that your way is the only way. You are free to have your own opinion on here. There are lots of METHODS for weight loss, different methods work for different people. I am very insulin sensitive, but eating 6 meals a day sure as hell didn't work for me. Intermittent fasting (eating two meals from 3pm-9pm) does work for me, very successfully in fact. I found this after 3 years of trying many different methods. Talk in a way of what works for YOU without preaching and telling people what they should do.0
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