Why girls shouldn't lift weights like men - disgusting hey?
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I've thought about a reduction, but I don't want the scars and I also think my body would look odd and out of proportion
Oh lord, I feel your pain girl. I've been thinking about an anatomical reduction as well because it simply ruins the lines of one's clothing. And zipping up...errrr....wait...you are talking about boobs right?
PS: To the OP - well done on achieving your goals. I am sure it took a lot of hard work, dedication and planning*
* not so hard is it?0 -
It doesn't matter when she got the boobs. They don't look natural to me with that body, thus rendering the whole look not ideal.
We know. We got it the first 6-7 times you said it. Why are you so obsessed with this? No - don't answer that. Please.
lol if people keep asking me the same questions, i answer it repeatedly, but okay i'm the one who is obsessed.0 -
I've thought about a reduction, but I don't want the scars and I also think my body would look odd and out of proportion
Oh lord, I feel your pain girl. I've been thinking about an anatomical reduction as well because it simply ruins the lines of one's clothing. And zipping up...errrr....wait...you are talking about boobs right?
PS: To the OP - well done on achieving your goals. I am sure it took a lot of hard work, dedication and planning*
* not so hard is it?
HA HAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa0 -
Matt, I'm curious as a newbie. How long did it take her from when she started? And i'm presuming she was at a good weight already when she started? Also with what weights/reps did she start?
thank you!
Dieting and properly under my supervision (her choice, not forced before anyone says) since mid October 2012 altho I did suggest a basic diet at the end of August to her, it was more guidelines than stuck to. You could argue 6 months, I'd say 4.
Yo started at around 60kg, she is currently 56kg however she has dropped fat and gained muscle so in just 4 months she's really really sharpened up.
Natashaa1991 - each to their own. I don't understand why you have to come and post this on the thread which is promoting healthy living and lifting, however?
tabbyavalon - could you not class your hair and piercings as weird? Again, each to their own!
Ps - I'm pierced and tattoed in more than one place tabbyavalon, so do not take offence
She is LEAN and looks AWESOME! And I am sure she feels pretty damn awesome too. You should see the muscles on my boxing trainer! She is 53 and ripped and very proud of her bulging muscles. As she should be.
To each their own is right! :drinker:0 -
The whole issue of body shaming works both ways.
No, we shouldn't judge how a person wants to improve their body/lifestyle/level of fitness. But the OP opened up mentioning 'zero cardio'. So judging people who do cardio instead of weights. Maybe their opinion of what works for them is different. As long as we're doing SOMETHING to stay fit, who cares if we all look like models? I know I will never look as good as the pictures on the front page, lifting or no lifting, so we should be supporting each other for our commitment to a better lifestyle rather than our attempts to get to a certain body-shape/look.
Pretty sure Matt wasn't doing any judging - rather stating that women didn't have to do cardio to look like that.
Correction: THAT woman didn't have to do cardio to look like that.0 -
Here's a suggestion. Get a post-it note, fold it in half, and stick it on the monitor over her chest. Then decide whether or not her body took a lot of hard work and dedication.
What's the BFD? So she's had implants. So have lots of women. It's not for me*, but I don't see it as any different than wearing contacts or getting my teeth straightened.
* Part of why I don't want implants is because I'd end up hating the world even more if people started being nicer or paid more attention to me if I had bigger ta-tas. And on the flip side, this thread shows that some women are really mean if you have bigger ta-tas, too.
Thank you for a rational response. I love the "post it note" suggestion. You are awesome! LOL0 -
No cardio? She a little to muscular but better than skinny fat.0
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Wow this thread is crazy!!! Love her look!!!
Her diet and lifting plan will be my next challenge. I love lifting!
Matt - you have done an amazing job staying patient with all the haters here.
THANK YOU for posting this. It is very ispiring! Her/your hard work and dedication are VERY admirable!!!0 -
The whole issue of body shaming works both ways.
No, we shouldn't judge how a person wants to improve their body/lifestyle/level of fitness. But the OP opened up mentioning 'zero cardio'. So judging people who do cardio instead of weights. Maybe their opinion of what works for them is different. As long as we're doing SOMETHING to stay fit, who cares if we all look like models? I know I will never look as good as the pictures on the front page, lifting or no lifting, so we should be supporting each other for our commitment to a better lifestyle rather than our attempts to get to a certain body-shape/look.
No, you haven't read the thread. I clarified it once, I'll happily do it again.
Cardio has not been implemented yet. Why? Because most people diet/cardio/lift all at the same time at full pelt. I went onto say that it is implemented when weight loss slows because it allows one to push pash stages of homeostasis without decreasing calories. Naturally a drop in calories will drop weight... and then level off. At this point a low amount of cardio can be brought in and begin the process again.
This is what was meant, zero cardio was stated because it is fact at the moment.0 -
What I want to know is why women are so obsessed with each others boobs....
I just like having my little 'uns Lol it's nice not needing a bra! I used to have bigger bewbs but they left with the weight...0 -
I've thought about a reduction, but I don't want the scars and I also think my body would look odd and out of proportion
Oh lord, I feel your pain girl. I've been thinking about an anatomical reduction as well because it simply ruins the lines of one's clothing. And zipping up...errrr....wait...you are talking about boobs right?
PS: To the OP - well done on achieving your goals. I am sure it took a lot of hard work, dedication and planning*
* not so hard is it?
lol0 -
The whole issue of body shaming works both ways.
No, we shouldn't judge how a person wants to improve their body/lifestyle/level of fitness. But the OP opened up mentioning 'zero cardio'. So judging people who do cardio instead of weights. Maybe their opinion of what works for them is different. As long as we're doing SOMETHING to stay fit, who cares if we all look like models? I know I will never look as good as the pictures on the front page, lifting or no lifting, so we should be supporting each other for our commitment to a better lifestyle rather than our attempts to get to a certain body-shape/look.
Actually, if you read this post or the other one that he linked in you'll see that they do some cardio and are adding hiit this year to evaluate the response. So, even when you put in the hard work and dedication you always need to make room for the possibility of utilizing other tools to work on improvement. This post was not to shame anyone for chosing cardio, but to promote the great things that can happen when you weight train.0 -
Awesome job Matt.
She looks phenomenal.0 -
The whole issue of body shaming works both ways.
No, we shouldn't judge how a person wants to improve their body/lifestyle/level of fitness. But the OP opened up mentioning 'zero cardio'. So judging people who do cardio instead of weights. Maybe their opinion of what works for them is different. As long as we're doing SOMETHING to stay fit, who cares if we all look like models? I know I will never look as good as the pictures on the front page, lifting or no lifting, so we should be supporting each other for our commitment to a better lifestyle rather than our attempts to get to a certain body-shape/look.
I didn't read it as anti-cardio. I read it as, "You don't HAVE to do cardio," because I think at least 8 out of 10 women (unless they've been reading this forum a lot) think weight loss means treadmills and ellipticals.
I consider myself a fairly intelligent person, but weight lifting never crossed my mind as a way to get the kind of body shape I wanted. Until I started seeing thread like this. I was never afraid I'd get big and bulky like Chyna, because I knew damn well someone like that works way harder than I ever would, but I didn't know weight lifting was the way to get a nice shaped *kitten*.
I still love running, though, and no amount of "You don't have to do cardio" is going to make me stop. If I didn't like it, I know I wouldn't have to do it.0 -
Well before this thread hits 500 and gets locked down...
Matt your fiance looks amazing. She (and you) have put a lot of hard work in to have the type of bodies you desire. That deserves admiration and respect.
And you have inspired a few ladies here to lift or at least keep their gym appointments. That's what MFP is all about.
To those body shaming her.. have another donut and keep telling yourself you never want to look like her. You needn't worry, I'm quite positive you never will.
I love the newer Tough Love Brett. Much more entertaining.0 -
*sigh*No cardio? She a little to muscular but better than skinny fat.0 -
What I want to know is why women are so obsessed with each others boobs....
I love them, I used to have them, I lost them after nursing my son, I want them again. I spend a lot of time trying to figure out what sort of rack I want to purchase after my next kiddo.
You may not need them after your next kiddo. I thought I would need a boob job after my first child and then my 2nd they actually got a little bigger and stayed big then my 3rd came along. Yes I breast fed all 3 kids for the first 6 months. WHen I had my first baby at 25 I was a B cup but went down to an A. After my 2nd I went up to a C cup. After my 3rd I'm now a DD. So glad I didn't get the implants after my first like I had wanted. Now I long for my smaller breasts. These things just get in the way and make it harder to sleep and get a nice blouse to button up. My husband says he married me with a flat chest and could care less if I lost them again while losing weight..which by the way has not happened.0 -
What was the diet? I assume it's low carb, lower fat, and high protein. For me, that's unsustainable at length, and I would be dreadfully miserable---- not fun. I enjoy my food, and honestly, would prefer to enjoy my diet instead of have a body like that--- although it is quite ripped and pretty awesome.
I'm sorry if OP covered this, but the thread is far too long with too many off topics for me to feel like sifting through it.0 -
I save up cardio as a secret weapon for when I want to push past some wall I come up against. I dont want to wear out it's usefulness, because I feel that when I get readlly good at cardio, I get much better at it, more efficient and then it doesnt help me as much as when i'm first incorporating it.
So I drop it for months, jump back in when I suck, get awesome again, drop it til I need it again.
also- on the whole plastic surgery thing - it is her body. No man or woman she isn't married/engaged to has any right to even think of trying to make her second guess something she really wanted for herself and then went and got for herself. What her plastic surgery feels like or looks like, only has to make her happy. Her changes won't affect your weights results.
Ever. :bigsmile:0 -
I'm ignoring all the stupid, judgy comments on this thread.
I just stopped by to say you're both hot, and if you two made porn, I'd buy it.
Ditto.0 -
Her changes won't affect your weights results.
Ever. :bigsmile:
Are you sure? I swear I just gained 5 lbs bc she has implants.
J/k. i think she looks fantastic and anyone who hated on her probably should have spent that time exercising instead of spouting nonsense.0 -
There I fixed that last sentence for you, it does really sound a little less *****y and a little more pointed when you make your point about what your ideal is instead of picking apart what isn't your ideal on someone else. I'd give you an example of what I mean, but I see you you don't have any photos of yourself anywhere.
This thread implied that women should lift weights in order to look like the o.p. My opinion is that is not ideal. Sorry you have a problem with that. When someone posts something like that, they open it up for criticism. You're right, I don't have any photos of myself viewable to non-friends. I'd rather remain anonymous on the internet.
Again, if you read what I wrote you should understand that there is no issue with having an ideal, we are all entitled to our own ideal. However, the entitlement to our ideals does not remove us from the responsibility associated with how we present our ideal. Simply saying "that look is not my ideal" if very different from saying "I hate her fake boobs." To me, especially on this website, this is an important distinction in the art communication.0 -
What was the diet? I assume it's low carb, lower fat, and high protein. For me, that's unsustainable at length, and I would be dreadfully miserable---- not fun. I enjoy my food, and honestly, would prefer to enjoy my diet instead of have a body like that--- although it is quite ripped and pretty awesome.
All here - www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/821132-yo-s-successful-carb-cycling-routine-with-diet-and-regime0 -
Wow, it rolled over already! Popular thread, I guess people do care, huh??
About the boobs, I think they look great and I don't fault a woman for getting them, before, after, during, whenever, it doesn't matter, she still worked hard to have a great body so I don't know why that has to be a focus for judgement. Hell, I'd get em if we had the money, just for some better cleavage and my husband would probably love them. My mom had hers done after getting a mascectomy after breast cancer, lots of women probably do that as well. I don't think there is anything wrong with that or getting implants because you just want them. So much judgy-Mcjudgersons out there.0 -
She looks fantastic. I have to question the motives of people who have anything negative to say about the way she looks. Hell I'd give my left boob to look this good. I'm currently doing cardio and lifting heavy because I have a ways to go before I can "sculpt" my body but I see nothing wrong her.....it's alllll right. Great motivation as well.0
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This thread implied that women should lift weights in order to look like the o.p.
YAY SOMEONE GOT THE MESSAGE!!!! *throws all the confetti* Woohoooooooooooo
now let's sit around and wait for someone to realize that this is only aimed at people who want to look like that.0 -
I admit I didn't read the whole thread, but it was the discussion about judgments that got my back up and for that I apologize. I'm not going to lie, totally jealous over pretty much everything, but I agree with someone else's comment about the implication that lifting will give you a body like that. Some of us just aren't made that way and it's easy to get a little discouraged by thinking 'God, HOW much weight/many reps would it take for me to get anywhere close to looking as good as that?'
Kudos, though. You do look great.
(Matt, I also checked your profile. Bristol England, eh? That's my hometown!)0 -
This thread implied that women should lift weights in order to look like the o.p.
YAY SOMEONE GOT THE MESSAGE!!!! *throws all the confetti* Woohoooooooooooo
now let's sit around and wait for someone to realize that this is only aimed at people who want to look like that.
This^^0 -
I got an absolute kick out of the people who posted saying "She looks great, but I CERTAINLY don't want to look like that." Nobody asked what each individual poster on that thread had as an ideal body type. Self centered biatches.
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She is absolutely STUNNING!
That takes some serious hard work and dedication. I love how proud you are of her and I hope she's just as proud of herself!0
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