This may be a load of rubbish but worth posting
Replies
-
Really? In what world did you think this is a sensible thing to post????
Do you think prior to people drinking aspartame, there were no cases of any of those health conditions that you listed? DId you sit and think, OH, wait, I know a way of showing much sympathy and care to all the people that suffer from auto immune conditions and the likes.... I will post a load of ***** that has no backup, or scientific evidence whatsover, and I will blame all those people who are ill for their conditions...
So let's see how you explain my health, oh wise dr that u are.... Systemic lupus, don't drink aspartame, nor take in any fake sugars.... maybe you are going to say that its the oxygen I breath in, or the cucumbers I eat???
get a life!!!! think about other people, and stop believing all the rubbish you read0 -
Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.
If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.
Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.
No. It is horrible to have autoimmune disease and they are extremely serious. If i did not obtain the proper treatment when I did I would have likely died by now (the survival rate for my disease untreated is 5% at 5 years). So, telling people that they can cure themselves by stopping drinking diet soda, if they are stupid enough to believe it (and lots of people appear to be), can cause them to NOT seek treatment known to be effective, These diseases kill people quickly if not treated. It is very serious. THIS POST SUGGESTS THIS IS A CURE FOR THESE DISEASES. I have seen many people seek "alternative" cures for my rare disease because they don't like the side effect of the traditional (and effective) treatments. I am doing well. They are not. So, it is more similar to your third world example than you realize.
Sorry, you seem to be (incorrectly) under the impression that you alone suffer from autoimmune disorders and I have no idea what you're talking about. We lost my bil to complications from his last year, hubs grandmother from hers, so you are not alone and I am not ignorant. I saw no where in the fabricated article where it said that removing this non-essential food product was a guarantee of a cure or a guarantee that it is causing your illness or that you should stop consuming it and simultaneously discontinue your medical treatment. So yes, I do think that your misrepresenting words like "disrespectful" and "irresponsible" and that while the op does need to read more carefully and do a little research because the next time it could be either of those things, they do not deserve you attacking them.
Of course I don't think that. I interact with people on this site who have them and I even talk about other people in my post that have them. MANY people turn to alternative treatments and COMPLETELY discontinue their medical treatment. She even stated in her title that it may be a load of rubbish, but worth posting. That kind of thinking is spreading misinformation to people. There are people who are gullible and actively seek alternative treatments IN LIEU of traditional and tested medical treatments.. If it is for a headache, then fine. If it is for a deadly disease, not fine. Yes, it is irresponsible for sure. It is also disrespectful to tell someone what you think will cure their serious disease if you are not a medical professional with specific knowledge on current treatment for that disease.
I get it all the time. If I go gluten free, I will be cured. I should not take prednisone, it is dangerous. I should try cutting out all processed foods and I will be cured. blah blah blah. There are people who will actually fall for these things and stop their treatments. Disrespectful. Irresponsible.0 -
Do you think prior to people drinking aspartame, there were no cases of any of those health conditions that you listed?
<snip>
This is what I was thinking as well. My husband and I both have auto-immune diseases and neither of us use products containing aspartame. What now?0 -
I'm glad to see that you posted this article. It's a great reminder. This isn't new....health care professionals have known how dangerous 'aspartame' is for years. 5 years ago, I thought my life was over as I had a bad reaction to a prescription drug I took. I tried every specialist available and they couldn't help me , so I went to a naturopath. The first thing he had me do was give up ' diet coke". I did. He told me about his patient who had 'aspartame poisoning' and what damage the pop did to her. It took me 8 months to get healthy, but I did.
Unfortunately, time lets me forget...I guess that's why I overeat and sometimes drink diet pop. I love your posting, I'm stopping drinking 'that crap' again. It makes me feel terrible. Thanks for inspiring me to do something that I had chosen to forget.0 -
OK, true story:
I'm a type I/Juvenile Diabetic. I started drinking diet soda when I was diagnosed...over thirteen years ago.
And Guess what...none of these health problems. I am perfectly healthy.0 -
I had a sip from my friends diet coke the other day and now I can't see out of my left eye. Thanks for posting this!!!!!!!!!!0
-
@ Swisbritt I'm not going to quote your novel and hog up the thread, but let me say I have eaten aspartame in its many forms you mentioned for years and I have not contracted any of those diseases or ailments.
And guess what? I'm not dead either.:bigsmile:0 -
If it's rubbish, then it's not worth posting. And yes, this is rubbish.
Amen sister.0 -
I had a sip from my friends diet coke the other day and now I can't see out of my left eye. Thanks for posting this!!!!!!!!!!
:sad: :laugh: :sad: :laugh: Good one!0 -
Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.
If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.
Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.
No. It is horrible to have autoimmune disease and they are extremely serious. If i did not obtain the proper treatment when I did I would have likely died by now (the survival rate for my disease untreated is 5% at 5 years). So, telling people that they can cure themselves by stopping drinking diet soda, if they are stupid enough to believe it (and lots of people appear to be), can cause them to NOT seek treatment known to be effective, These diseases kill people quickly if not treated. It is very serious. THIS POST SUGGESTS THIS IS A CURE FOR THESE DISEASES. I have seen many people seek "alternative" cures for my rare disease because they don't like the side effect of the traditional (and effective) treatments. I am doing well. They are not. So, it is more similar to your third world example than you realize.
Sorry, you seem to be (incorrectly) under the impression that you alone suffer from autoimmune disorders and I have no idea what you're talking about. We lost my bil to complications from his last year, hubs grandmother from hers, so you are not alone and I am not ignorant. I saw no where in the fabricated article where it said that removing this non-essential food product was a guarantee of a cure or a guarantee that it is causing your illness or that you should stop consuming it and simultaneously discontinue your medical treatment. So yes, I do think that you're misrepresenting words like "disrespectful" and "irresponsible" and that while the op does need to read more carefully and do a little research because the next time it could be either of those things, they do not deserve you attacking them.
Um, did we read the same article? Half of the article was about how most instances of multiple sclerosis or lupus are really just aspartame poisoning, and that the symptoms will go away if you stop drinking diet soda.
I don't believe so. Unless the article you read said that people who suffer from autoimmune disorders should stop taking artificial sweetners and stop their medication at the same time and not seek medical advice or monitoring. The article I read misrepresented the populous who suffers from aspartame allergies, but also indicated that the "sister" of the "author" continued her medications and treatments and continued seeking the advice of a medical professional. They made an extrapolation leap, and again suggested the removal of a non-essential food item, but not the removal of medical treatment prior to proving this allergy.0 -
OP please check snopes before you post this type of thing. I have lupus and I get so very tired of being told that aspartame, or wheat, or sugar are causing my illness. Sometimes illnesses just happen. It sucks that there's no one thing that you can point to as a cause, but that's just the way it is.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp
Also, autoimmune conditions often go into remission on their own. Just because someone changes their eating and some time later their symptoms improve, it does not mean that the symptoms improved because of the dietary change. I've made no dietary changes in the past year and yet my symptoms have almost disappeared. That's just how these diseases are.0 -
OP please check snopes before you post this type of thing. I have lupus and I get so very tired of being told that aspartame, or wheat, or sugar are causing my illness. Sometimes illnesses just happen. It sucks that there's no one thing that you can point to as a cause, but that's just the way it is.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp
Also, autoimmune conditions often go into remission on their own. Just because someone changes their eating and some time later their symptoms improve, it does not mean that the symptoms improved because of the dietary change. I've made no dietary changes in the past year and yet my symptoms have almost disappeared. That's just how these diseases are.
Yep. QFT0 -
I doubt aspirtine causes things like MS or lupus but, believe it can cause some weird symptoms in some people and worsen weird symptoms in others, like myself. Please note the word SOME. I noticed that when I drink a lot of diet soda I get increased tingling in my arms and legs. I went to the doctor about tingling in my arms and legs about 30 years ago. He checked me for MS and other nerve disorders and told me that I didn't have anything wrong with me that they could see. I've had this tingling since my 20's and still get the tingling in my early 50's off and on. I've learned to live with it and am very thankful that it isn't something more serious, but it is very irritating at times.0
-
This is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this is the song that doesn't end. Yes, it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. And they'll keep right on singing it forever just because this
:laugh: :laugh:
0 -
I had a sip from my friends diet coke the other day and now I can't see out of my left eye. Thanks for posting this!!!!!!!!!!
your argument... it persuades me.
0 -
I see we have a few Diet Coke lovers....
I don't drink diet anything. Whether not it has been proven to be harmful, aspartame tastes like poison to me. I'd rather drink 150 calories of straight up sugar and/or corn syrup than drink aspartame. But then again, that's why I haven't had a soda in three months.0 -
I drink the odd diet coke. That's the only aspartame I have. I don't believe the entire argument that it's poison and causing autoimmune disorders etc. But for some people cutting it out helps their health. People's bodies react differently to different things. However it's definitely not real food. I "try" to stick to real food. IMO it's just healthier for me.0
-
They are NOT very influential, else we would already have diet Coke made with Truvia. The FDA is fighting them tooth and nail.
There are a couple of diet sodas (not coke brand) on the market made with stevia, one specifically with truvia. They are delicious.0 -
This is the kind of junk my MIL would of sent me on facebook before I blocked her.0
-
Hmmm...let me check this out on myself:
Drinks Coke Zero every single day? Check.
Perfectly healthy? Check.
Only gets sick about once every two years? Check.
Lifts six times per week without suffering from 'overtraining'? Check.
Oh look, using the logic in this article, Aspartame must make your lifts better, kick your immune system into high gear, and make you an incredibly pissed off person!!! All hail the God Tonic that is Aspertame!
Wait...whatchu mean correlation doesn't equal causation?0 -
I had a sip from my friends diet coke the other day and now I can't see out of my left eye. Thanks for posting this!!!!!!!!!!
Instead, you should have sipped Diet Dr. Pepper. It tastes more like regular Dr. Pepper, compared to other diet soft drinks. :drinker:0 -
They are NOT very influential, else we would already have diet Coke made with Truvia. The FDA is fighting them tooth and nail.
There are a couple of diet sodas (not coke brand) on the market made with stevia, one specifically with truvia. They are delicious.
There are a couple, yes. They are not "major players" though, and they are expensive as hell! I can't wait for Coca Cola to start making them. I like Truvia the best.0 -
Any soda, if drank every day constantly with nothing else, is going to be harmful for you in the long run!
I'm allergic to aspartame so I get very, VERY sick whenever I consume it, but I have friends who practically live off diet soda and the like and they're perfectly fine. Not going to be great for them in said long run, but it's all down to you sensitivity wise0 -
0 -
I drink Diet Coke 24/7 just about AND I can walk...or can I???0
-
BEFORE YOU READ.... PLEASE DONT SLAM ME AS I AM ONLY POSTING FOR INFORMATION, NOT SAYING ITS TRUE OR NOT, JUST SHARING IT FROM FACEBOOK AS I FOUND IT INTERESTING.
Sweet KILLER.
In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick She had stomach spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking was a major chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed; she was in so much pain.
By March 2002, she had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and was on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not determine what was wrong with her. She was in so much pain, and so sick she just knew she was dying.
She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her oldest daughter's name, and made sure that her younger children were to be taken care of.
She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to Florida (basically in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.
On March 19, I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she said they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS.
I recalled an article a friend of mine e-mailed to me and I asked my sister if she drank diet soda? She told me that she did. As a matter of fact, she was getting ready to crack one open that moment.
I told her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda! I e-mailed her an article my friend, a lawyer, had sent. My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told me she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk! The muscle spasms went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but, she sure felt a lot better.
She told me she was going to her doctor with this article and would call me when she got home.
Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call all of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of any kind. In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet soda.. and literally dying a slow and miserable death
When she got to Florida March 22, all she had to take was one pill, and that was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a complete recovery. And she is walking! No wheelchair! This article saved her life.If it says 'SUGAR FREE' on the label; DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on 'ASPARTAME,' marketed as'Nutra Sweet,' 'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.'In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this to be rampant. I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.
I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants. The methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus.
Many people were being diagnosed in error. Although multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, Methanol toxicity is!
Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers.The victim usually does not know that the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its use; irritating the lupus to such a degree that it may become a life-threatening condition. We have seen patients with systemic lupus become asymptotic, once taken off diet sodas.
In cases of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, most of the symptoms disappear. We've seen many cases where vision loss returned and hearing loss improved markedly.
This also applies to cases of tinnitus and fibromyalgia. During a lecture, I said, 'If you are using ASPARTAME (Nutra Sweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting, pains, numbness in your legs,
Cramps,
Vertigo,
Dizziness,
Headaches,
Tinnitus,
Joint pain,
Unexplainable depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss you probably have ASPARTAME poisoning!' People were jumping up during the lecture saying,'I have some of these symptoms. Is it reversible?'
Yes!
Yes!
Yes!
STOP drinking diet sodas and be alert for Aspartame on food labels! Many products are fortified with it! This is a serious problem. Dr. Espart (one of my speakers) remarked that so many people seem to be symptomatic for MS and during his recent visit to a hospice; a nurse stated that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence!
Diet soda is NOT a diet product! It is a chemically altered, multiple SODIUM (salt) and ASPARTAME containing product that actually makes you crave carbohydrates.
It is far more likely to make you GAIN weight!
These products also contain formaldehyde, which stores in the fat cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Formaldehyde is an absolute toxin and is used primarily to preserve 'tissue specimens.'
Many products we use every day contain this chemical but we SHOULD NOT store it IN our body!
Dr. H. J. Roberts stated in his lectures that once free of the 'diet products' and with no significant increase in exercise; his patients lost an average of 19 pounds over a trial period.Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics. We found that some physicians, who believed that they had a patient with retinopathy, in fact, had symptoms caused by Aspartame. The Aspartame drives the blood sugar out of control. Thus diabetics may suffer acute memory loss due to the fact that aspartic acid and phenylalanine are NEUROTOXIC when taken without the other amino acids necessary for a good balance.
Treating diabetes is all about BALANCE.. Especially with diabetics, the Aspartame passes the blood/brain barrier and it then deteriorates the neurons of the brain; causing various levels of brain damage, Seizures, Depression, Manic depression, Panic attacks, Uncontrollable anger and rage.Consumption of Aspartame causes these same symptoms in non-diabetics as well. Documentation and observation also reveal that thousands of children diagnosed with ADD and ADHD have had complete turnarounds in their behavior when these chemicals have been removed from their diet.
So called 'behavior modification prescription drugs' (Ritalin and others) are no longer needed.Truth be told, they were never NEEDED in the first place!Most of these children were being 'poisoned' on a daily basis with the very foods that were 'better for them than sugar.'It is also suspected that the Aspartame in thousands of pallets of diet Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting in the Gulf War, may be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War Syndrome.
Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects, i.e. mental retardation, if taken at the time of conception and during early pregnancy. Children are especially at risk for neurological disorders and should NEVER be given artificial sweeteners.
There are many different case histories to relate of children suffering grand mal seizures and other neurological disturbances talking about a plague of neurological diseases directly caused by the use of this deadly poison.'
Herein lies the problem: There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame was included in 100 different products and strong objection was made concerning its use. Since this initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, and still nothing has been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets.
Sadly, MONSANTO'S patent on Aspartame has EXPIRED! There are now over 5,000 products on the market that contain this deadly chemical and there will be thousands more introduced. Everybody wants a 'piece of the Aspartame pie.'I assure you that MONSANTO, the creator of Aspartame, knows how deadly it is.
And isn't it ironic that MONSANTO funds, among others, the American Diabetes Association, the American Dietetic Association and the Conference of the American College of Physicians?
This has been recently exposed in the New York Times. These [organizations] cannot criticize any additives or convey their link to MONSANTO because they take money from the food industry and are required to endorse their products.Senator Howard Metzenbaum wrote and presented a bill that would require label warnings on products containing Aspartame, especially regarding pregnant women, children and infants.
The bill would also institute independent studies on the known dangers and the problems existing in the general population regarding seizures, changes in brain chemistry, neurological changes and behavioural symptoms.
The bill was killed.It is known that the powerful drug and chemical lobbies are responsible for this, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting and uninformed public. Well, you're informed now!
www.snopes.com do a search for aspartame. Chain emails are bad for getting accurate information. Snopes isn't perfect, but it's a place to start.0 -
Well the Splenda, Stevia and Sugar club will like yet another bash on aspartame. Loss of sales will make people type anything. Hey do ya have any snake oil? JK
Cheers!! ....with my generic diet koolaid! :drinker:0 -
Any soda, if drank every day constantly with nothing else, is going to be harmful for you in the long run!
I'm allergic to aspartame so I get very, VERY sick whenever I consume it, but I have friends who practically live off diet soda and the like and they're perfectly fine. Not going to be great for them in said long run, but it's all down to you sensitivity wise
Ditto. Artificial sweeteners of any kind do have potential side effects and allergy reactions. I get nausea, migraine, rash and my vision goes crazy if I ingest them. Personally I think "the way nature intended" or "chemicals from the lab". When it comes to something as simple as a sweetener (which you're only supposed to use in moderation anyway) I'll stick to the raw sugar or honey.0 -
Any soda, if drank every day constantly with nothing else, is going to be harmful for you in the long run!
I'm allergic to aspartame so I get very, VERY sick whenever I consume it, but I have friends who practically live off diet soda and the like and they're perfectly fine. Not going to be great for them in said long run, but it's all down to you sensitivity wise
Ditto. Artificial sweeteners of any kind do have potential side effects and allergy reactions. I get nausea, migraine, rash and my vision goes crazy if I ingest them. Personally I think "the way nature intended" or "chemicals from the lab". When it comes to something as simple as a sweetener (which you're only supposed to use in moderation anyway) I'll stick to the raw sugar or honey.
But because honey can cause botulism in babies, it's gonna kill us all!!! Didn't you get the email?0 -
Thankyou for posting this ,sorry so many post are neg,but that's the way of the world .I 1000%beleave every singal word of it it true true true .I have lupus and it was worsen by diet rock star .and I know it .all my doctors told me to get off of it now now ,I just don't k.ow how I'm always tired I've tryed many other things and with no luck .I have to function,I can't with out it . I'm still working on it but I. The mean time I'm trying to limit it to one that's down from four . Facts our facts I'm not doing myself right ,but its not that I'm.putting my.head in the sand because I don't want to change .might be hard to not have something I like .its flat out I can't figure out how to get stuff done feeling like a human being ,but again I'm trying0
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.6K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.3K Health and Weight Loss
- 176K Food and Nutrition
- 47.5K Recipes
- 232.6K Fitness and Exercise
- 431 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.6K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.4K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.8K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.1K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions