This may be a load of rubbish but worth posting
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Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.
If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.
Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.0 -
When it comes to spam emails I have 1 word for you: snopes
I was just going to say this. I know people tend to have the best of intentions by forwarding stuff like this, but seriously do your research before posting or forwarding to verify, dont believe it if someone in the email tells you they verified it, verify it yourself. There are loads of trusting souls out there who dont think to verify stuff like this and take it on face value.
I am here to tell you that i drink 1-2 liters of diet soda a day to keep me feeling full, I tried it with water and i just wont drink enough to keep feeling full. If it is bad for you im willing to take the risk that the benefits of losing 120 lbs because of having diet drinks available to me far outweighs any negatives the drink MAY have.0 -
thanks for sharing. already knew it, already believe it. have done my homework.
and to those who don't - rock on. you can have my share.0 -
Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.
If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.
Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.
No. It is horrible to have autoimmune disease and they are extremely serious. If i did not obtain the proper treatment when I did I would have likely died by now (the survival rate for my disease untreated is 5% at 5 years). So, telling people that they can cure themselves by stopping drinking diet soda, if they are stupid enough to believe it (and lots of people appear to be), can cause them to NOT seek treatment known to be effective, These diseases kill people quickly if not treated. It is very serious. THIS POST SUGGESTS THIS IS A CURE FOR THESE DISEASES. I have seen many people seek "alternative" cures for my rare disease because they don't like the side effect of the traditional (and effective) treatments. I am doing well. They are not. So, it is more similar to your third world example than you realize.0 -
If it's rubbish, then it's not worth posting. And yes, this is rubbish.0
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Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.
If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.
Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.
No. It is horrible to have autoimmune disease and they are extremely serious. If i did not obtain the proper treatment when I did I would have likely died by now (the survival rate for my disease untreated is 5% at 5 years). So, telling people that they can cure themselves by stopping drinking diet soda, if they are stupid enough to believe it (and lots of people appear to be), can cause them to NOT seek treatment known to be effective, These diseases kill people quickly if not treated. It is very serious. THIS POST SUGGESTS THIS IS A CURE FOR THESE DISEASES. I have seen many people seek "alternative" cures for my rare disease because they don't like the side effect of the traditional (and effective) treatments. I am doing well. They are not. So, it is more similar to your third world example than you realize.
Sorry, you seem to be (incorrectly) under the impression that you alone suffer from autoimmune disorders and I have no idea what you're talking about. We lost my bil to complications from his last year, hubs grandmother from hers, so you are not alone and I am not ignorant. I saw no where in the fabricated article where it said that removing this non-essential food product was a guarantee of a cure or a guarantee that it is causing your illness or that you should stop consuming it and simultaneously discontinue your medical treatment. So yes, I do think that you're misrepresenting words like "disrespectful" and "irresponsible" and that while the op does need to read more carefully and do a little research because the next time it could be either of those things, they do not deserve you attacking them.0 -
To be slightly less mean (but only slightly), aspartame has been proven safe for use (except by phenylketuronic-sensitive folks) in over 90 countries, it has been proven safe in innumerable studies over many decades, and the only time its safety was every called into question was not because of negative reactions, but because of a formality (the FDA wasn't satisfied with the methodology of the original safety studies).
Ever considered how influential a company coca cola is worldwide?
They are NOT very influential, else we would already have diet Coke made with Truvia. The FDA is fighting them tooth and nail.0 -
Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.
If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.
Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.
No. It is horrible to have autoimmune disease and they are extremely serious. If i did not obtain the proper treatment when I did I would have likely died by now (the survival rate for my disease untreated is 5% at 5 years). So, telling people that they can cure themselves by stopping drinking diet soda, if they are stupid enough to believe it (and lots of people appear to be), can cause them to NOT seek treatment known to be effective, These diseases kill people quickly if not treated. It is very serious. THIS POST SUGGESTS THIS IS A CURE FOR THESE DISEASES. I have seen many people seek "alternative" cures for my rare disease because they don't like the side effect of the traditional (and effective) treatments. I am doing well. They are not. So, it is more similar to your third world example than you realize.
Sorry, you seem to be (incorrectly) under the impression that you alone suffer from autoimmune disorders and I have no idea what you're talking about. We lost my bil to complications from his last year, hubs grandmother from hers, so you are not alone and I am not ignorant. I saw no where in the fabricated article where it said that removing this non-essential food product was a guarantee of a cure or a guarantee that it is causing your illness or that you should stop consuming it and simultaneously discontinue your medical treatment. So yes, I do think that you're misrepresenting words like "disrespectful" and "irresponsible" and that while the op does need to read more carefully and do a little research because the next time it could be either of those things, they do not deserve you attacking them.
Um, did we read the same article? Half of the article was about how most instances of multiple sclerosis or lupus are really just aspartame poisoning, and that the symptoms will go away if you stop drinking diet soda.0 -
Really? In what world did you think this is a sensible thing to post????
Do you think prior to people drinking aspartame, there were no cases of any of those health conditions that you listed? DId you sit and think, OH, wait, I know a way of showing much sympathy and care to all the people that suffer from auto immune conditions and the likes.... I will post a load of ***** that has no backup, or scientific evidence whatsover, and I will blame all those people who are ill for their conditions...
So let's see how you explain my health, oh wise dr that u are.... Systemic lupus, don't drink aspartame, nor take in any fake sugars.... maybe you are going to say that its the oxygen I breath in, or the cucumbers I eat???
get a life!!!! think about other people, and stop believing all the rubbish you read0 -
Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.
If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.
Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.
No. It is horrible to have autoimmune disease and they are extremely serious. If i did not obtain the proper treatment when I did I would have likely died by now (the survival rate for my disease untreated is 5% at 5 years). So, telling people that they can cure themselves by stopping drinking diet soda, if they are stupid enough to believe it (and lots of people appear to be), can cause them to NOT seek treatment known to be effective, These diseases kill people quickly if not treated. It is very serious. THIS POST SUGGESTS THIS IS A CURE FOR THESE DISEASES. I have seen many people seek "alternative" cures for my rare disease because they don't like the side effect of the traditional (and effective) treatments. I am doing well. They are not. So, it is more similar to your third world example than you realize.
Sorry, you seem to be (incorrectly) under the impression that you alone suffer from autoimmune disorders and I have no idea what you're talking about. We lost my bil to complications from his last year, hubs grandmother from hers, so you are not alone and I am not ignorant. I saw no where in the fabricated article where it said that removing this non-essential food product was a guarantee of a cure or a guarantee that it is causing your illness or that you should stop consuming it and simultaneously discontinue your medical treatment. So yes, I do think that your misrepresenting words like "disrespectful" and "irresponsible" and that while the op does need to read more carefully and do a little research because the next time it could be either of those things, they do not deserve you attacking them.
Of course I don't think that. I interact with people on this site who have them and I even talk about other people in my post that have them. MANY people turn to alternative treatments and COMPLETELY discontinue their medical treatment. She even stated in her title that it may be a load of rubbish, but worth posting. That kind of thinking is spreading misinformation to people. There are people who are gullible and actively seek alternative treatments IN LIEU of traditional and tested medical treatments.. If it is for a headache, then fine. If it is for a deadly disease, not fine. Yes, it is irresponsible for sure. It is also disrespectful to tell someone what you think will cure their serious disease if you are not a medical professional with specific knowledge on current treatment for that disease.
I get it all the time. If I go gluten free, I will be cured. I should not take prednisone, it is dangerous. I should try cutting out all processed foods and I will be cured. blah blah blah. There are people who will actually fall for these things and stop their treatments. Disrespectful. Irresponsible.0 -
Do you think prior to people drinking aspartame, there were no cases of any of those health conditions that you listed?
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This is what I was thinking as well. My husband and I both have auto-immune diseases and neither of us use products containing aspartame. What now?0 -
I'm glad to see that you posted this article. It's a great reminder. This isn't new....health care professionals have known how dangerous 'aspartame' is for years. 5 years ago, I thought my life was over as I had a bad reaction to a prescription drug I took. I tried every specialist available and they couldn't help me , so I went to a naturopath. The first thing he had me do was give up ' diet coke". I did. He told me about his patient who had 'aspartame poisoning' and what damage the pop did to her. It took me 8 months to get healthy, but I did.
Unfortunately, time lets me forget...I guess that's why I overeat and sometimes drink diet pop. I love your posting, I'm stopping drinking 'that crap' again. It makes me feel terrible. Thanks for inspiring me to do something that I had chosen to forget.0 -
OK, true story:
I'm a type I/Juvenile Diabetic. I started drinking diet soda when I was diagnosed...over thirteen years ago.
And Guess what...none of these health problems. I am perfectly healthy.0 -
I had a sip from my friends diet coke the other day and now I can't see out of my left eye. Thanks for posting this!!!!!!!!!!0
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@ Swisbritt I'm not going to quote your novel and hog up the thread, but let me say I have eaten aspartame in its many forms you mentioned for years and I have not contracted any of those diseases or ailments.
And guess what? I'm not dead either.:bigsmile:0 -
If it's rubbish, then it's not worth posting. And yes, this is rubbish.
Amen sister.0 -
I had a sip from my friends diet coke the other day and now I can't see out of my left eye. Thanks for posting this!!!!!!!!!!
:sad: :laugh: :sad: :laugh: Good one!0 -
Posting things like this is irresponsible and disrespectful to those of us who suffer from these auto-immune diseases. I don't consume anything with Aspartame, never did (just not a soda drinker, etc). So what do I cut out to make my diseases go away? Stop posting crap like this.
If it is a load of rubbish, how on earth could it be "worth posting"? And yes, it is a load of rubbish.
Over react much? Posting something suggestin that cutting out a non-essential food product is neither irresponsible nor disrespectful. Post that if you have this you can go to a back alley doctor in some 3rd world country and have the evil dispelled through your belly button would be an example of something irresponsible, as would suggesting rubbing ammonia on your eyes to cure headaches. Telling people that they're medically proven illnesses are just a figment of their imaginations and they should just suck it up would be disrespectful. Posting some harmless information suggesting people remove aspartame from their diet without solid support outside of a spam email without at least snoping it first is ignorant, but not harmful.
No. It is horrible to have autoimmune disease and they are extremely serious. If i did not obtain the proper treatment when I did I would have likely died by now (the survival rate for my disease untreated is 5% at 5 years). So, telling people that they can cure themselves by stopping drinking diet soda, if they are stupid enough to believe it (and lots of people appear to be), can cause them to NOT seek treatment known to be effective, These diseases kill people quickly if not treated. It is very serious. THIS POST SUGGESTS THIS IS A CURE FOR THESE DISEASES. I have seen many people seek "alternative" cures for my rare disease because they don't like the side effect of the traditional (and effective) treatments. I am doing well. They are not. So, it is more similar to your third world example than you realize.
Sorry, you seem to be (incorrectly) under the impression that you alone suffer from autoimmune disorders and I have no idea what you're talking about. We lost my bil to complications from his last year, hubs grandmother from hers, so you are not alone and I am not ignorant. I saw no where in the fabricated article where it said that removing this non-essential food product was a guarantee of a cure or a guarantee that it is causing your illness or that you should stop consuming it and simultaneously discontinue your medical treatment. So yes, I do think that you're misrepresenting words like "disrespectful" and "irresponsible" and that while the op does need to read more carefully and do a little research because the next time it could be either of those things, they do not deserve you attacking them.
Um, did we read the same article? Half of the article was about how most instances of multiple sclerosis or lupus are really just aspartame poisoning, and that the symptoms will go away if you stop drinking diet soda.
I don't believe so. Unless the article you read said that people who suffer from autoimmune disorders should stop taking artificial sweetners and stop their medication at the same time and not seek medical advice or monitoring. The article I read misrepresented the populous who suffers from aspartame allergies, but also indicated that the "sister" of the "author" continued her medications and treatments and continued seeking the advice of a medical professional. They made an extrapolation leap, and again suggested the removal of a non-essential food item, but not the removal of medical treatment prior to proving this allergy.0
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