Doing cardio with out gaining muscle...

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  • emma155
    emma155 Posts: 152 Member
    Ok I understand what you are saying, but for me its about loosing motivation, its always been my problem with dieting, I find I need to measure so I can tell my self im doing well.... it may sound strange to some people but for some it must make sense?????

    You can use a tape measure.

    Or, buy an outfit you'd like to be able to wear. Try it on every week to see if it feels a bit more comfortable. I do that with jeans sometimes. Today, I'm wearing a pair that wouldn't go past my thighs a month ago.


    Very interesting and good on you!
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    My goodness these replies are scary. They would be funny if it weren't for them intending to be serious and helpful.
  • 1ConcreteGirl
    1ConcreteGirl Posts: 3,677 Member
    Cardio BURNS muscle in the morning and BUILDS muscle in the evenings.

    Just make sure you're doing it at the right time, and you'll be fine.
    Oh LORD, I really hope this was sarcasm.....:noway:

    +1. I hope she was joking.

    This is a serious forum; it is no place for jokes.

    I don't know why so many people here are so ready to jump on everything they disagree with, wow. Buncha bullies.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Maybe I should keep going as I am (only using food deficit to loose weight) then once i hit my plateau I shall do exercise to mix it up?

    You'll likely lost faster if you do cardio. Even if you do experience newbie muscle gains, which isn't all that likely at your age with cardio only, the faster fat loss from cardio will still likely cause you to lose lbs and inches more quickly.
  • dare2love81
    dare2love81 Posts: 928 Member
    Cardio BURNS muscle in the morning and BUILDS muscle in the evenings.

    Just make sure you're doing it at the right time, and you'll be fine.
    Oh LORD, I really hope this was sarcasm.....:noway:

    +1. I hope she was joking.

    This is a serious forum; it is no place for jokes.

    I don't know why so many people here are so ready to jump on everything they disagree with, wow. Buncha bullies.

    :flowerforyou:
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Unless you are eating a surplus of calories, you are going to have a difficult time building significant bulk muscle. You can, however, tone up and develop lean muscle. Also, cardio does not tend to cause much muscle gain since there is generally no significant increase in resistance. To build muscle, resistance training is a must.
    All muscle is lean. There is no such thing as "toning up." Muscle either grows or shrinks. It does not change shape or length.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Suggest you look into doing some hiit running alongside some sort of strength training.
    That will combine cardio and retain some muscle, and there are enough women on here doing weight training who have lost a lot of inches to stand as evidence that you don't get bulky with weight training. And hiit is a great fat burner. I personally do 1 minute sprinting at 16km/hr then 2 minutes walking, repeat and rinse for 20 minutes, then you are done. Do that a few times a week and some weight training 3 times a week, keep in a calorie deficit and you will see the inches come off. However, if all you care about is the number on a scale that no one else cares about or notices, then just diet and run your legs off.
  • Hellbent_Heidi
    Hellbent_Heidi Posts: 3,669 Member
    This is a serious forum; it is no place for jokes.

    I don't know why so many people here are so ready to jump on everything they disagree with, wow. Buncha bullies.
    Sorry you think you're being "BULLIED", but its quite ridiculous to imply that the time of day a person does cardio has anything to do with muscle gains or loss...

    If you have some kind of research that supports the theory, please feel free to post that, but as general advice, its just laughable!
  • emma155
    emma155 Posts: 152 Member
    Such mixed responses..... I have always used cardio before to lose weight but for some reason i just thought.. you use muscle to move meaning you use muscle to run which means running would build muscle and building mescle means weight gain? Just a thought.. Ill prob not worry too much about it.
  • Of all the silly things to worry about this is the silliest :D
  • skinnyinnotime
    skinnyinnotime Posts: 4,078 Member
    I think this is the problem you need to address more than anything else.
    I need the scales for motivation, If i dont see just small drop i just lose motivation and binge the next day... hope this makes sense?


    Probably...

    You would be better off seeing your results in the mirror and in measurements not numbers on the scale.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    If you are that obsessed about weight that it is more important than exercising for health, then I suggest you seek the help of a psychologist or professional as this sounds more a mental health issue than anything else.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Such mixed responses..... I have always used cardio before to lose weight but for some reason i just thought.. you use muscle to move meaning you use muscle to run which means running would build muscle and building mescle means weight gain? Just a thought.. Ill prob not worry too much about it.

    You do not gain weight unless energy intake exceeds energy needs.
  • jesz124
    jesz124 Posts: 1,004 Member
    This is a serious forum; it is no place for jokes.

    I don't know why so many people here are so ready to jump on everything they disagree with, wow. Buncha bullies.
    Sorry you think you're being "BULLIED", but its quite ridiculous to imply that the time of day a person does cardio has anything to do with muscle gains or loss...

    If you have some kind of research that supports the theory, please feel free to post that, but as general advice, its just laughable!

    Climb down! She's having a laugh!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    what are your goals?

    lose body fat? lose more weight? build stregnth etc..?

    Once you answer this then you should be able to get some better answers to your inquiry....


    I want to lose body fat from my face, legs, hips and waist... so basically every where (I realise you cant lose weight off any particular part)
    The thing is I would'nt mind just gaining a bit of muscle on my legs etc but thing is I need the scales for motivation, If i dont see just small drop i just lose motivation and binge the next day... hope this makes sense?


    You need to find a way to either put the scale away for a while or learn to use other metrics to gauge your progress.
    How often do you weigh yourself?

    I weigh my self once a week, I am def going to start using the tape measure.

    if you want to lose body fat then you should go to some kind of total body work out program three days a week ...squats, deadlifts, over head press, chins/pulls etc, and then two days a week do cardio ...on the weight trainng try to life weights that are challenging in the 6-10 rep range..

    good luck to you ..
  • strikerjb007
    strikerjb007 Posts: 443 Member
    Such mixed responses..... I have always used cardio before to lose weight but for some reason i just thought.. you use muscle to move meaning you use muscle to run which means running would build muscle and building mescle means weight gain? Just a thought.. Ill prob not worry too much about it.

    Serious question, what is the problem with building muscle and increasing your weight? If you follow your measurements or keep track of your BF%, it's not a bad thing. Fat takes more space so even when your weight goes up, you will likely look thinner and a lot stronger. A good training program includes both resistance and cardio. Cardio is overrated IMO. It's fun though.

    Besides, I am yet to see a woman that lifts weights that doesn't look great. HUGE difference between a lady that lifts and one that doesn't. And I am not talking about female bodybuilders. They do things that are way of the goals of the average woman.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    you use muscle to move meaning you use muscle to run which means running would build muscle and building mescle means weight gain?

    Correct if you have a calorie surplus.

    Even then it would be limited (unless you followed a very specific routine which incorporated lots of hill work, sprints etc.)

    If you embark on a new exercise regime when in a calorie deficit you may see a temporary increase on the scale due to water retention necessary for muscle repair. That does not mean however that either your fat mass has increased or your muscle mass.
  • emmielaur27
    emmielaur27 Posts: 2 Member
    Measure your waist, I did a fitness competition based on fat lose, the scale and all other ways to measure fat loss showed awful progress. We were weighed in on a very accurate computer based scale but had no access to this for 8 weeks, in the end I lost 10 inches from my waist, 20 lbs and 13 % body fat when I was assessed at the end. I shy away from the scale and measure my waist every 5 days or so.
  • emma155
    emma155 Posts: 152 Member
    Such mixed responses..... I have always used cardio before to lose weight but for some reason i just thought.. you use muscle to move meaning you use muscle to run which means running would build muscle and building mescle means weight gain? Just a thought.. Ill prob not worry too much about it.

    Serious question, what is the problem with building muscle and increasing your weight? If you follow your measurements or keep track of your BF%, it's not a bad thing. Fat takes more space so even when your weight goes up, you will likely look thinner and a lot stronger. A good training program includes both resistance and cardio. Cardio is overrated IMO. It's fun though.

    Besides, I am yet to see a woman that lifts weights that doesn't look great. HUGE difference between a lady that lifts and one that doesn't. And I am not talking about female bodybuilders. They do things that are way of the goals of the average woman.



    How can i measure my body fat?
  • strikerjb007
    strikerjb007 Posts: 443 Member
    Such mixed responses..... I have always used cardio before to lose weight but for some reason i just thought.. you use muscle to move meaning you use muscle to run which means running would build muscle and building mescle means weight gain? Just a thought.. Ill prob not worry too much about it.

    Serious question, what is the problem with building muscle and increasing your weight? If you follow your measurements or keep track of your BF%, it's not a bad thing. Fat takes more space so even when your weight goes up, you will likely look thinner and a lot stronger. A good training program includes both resistance and cardio. Cardio is overrated IMO. It's fun though.

    Besides, I am yet to see a woman that lifts weights that doesn't look great. HUGE difference between a lady that lifts and one that doesn't. And I am not talking about female bodybuilders. They do things that are way of the goals of the average woman.



    How can i measure my body fat?

    Calipers. Or you can track by taking measurements.
  • emma155
    emma155 Posts: 152 Member
    My problem is I know nothing about building mucle, this has never been one of my goals hence why I am trying to find out now how easy it is to gain muscle, but by the sounds of it its not very easy at all....?
  • Such mixed responses..... I have always used cardio before to lose weight but for some reason i just thought.. you use muscle to move meaning you use muscle to run which means running would build muscle and building mescle means weight gain? Just a thought.. Ill prob not worry too much about it.

    Serious question, what is the problem with building muscle and increasing your weight? If you follow your measurements or keep track of your BF%, it's not a bad thing. Fat takes more space so even when your weight goes up, you will likely look thinner and a lot stronger. A good training program includes both resistance and cardio. Cardio is overrated IMO. It's fun though.

    Besides, I am yet to see a woman that lifts weights that doesn't look great. HUGE difference between a lady that lifts and one that doesn't. And I am not talking about female bodybuilders. They do things that are way of the goals of the average woman.



    How can i measure my body fat?

    Calipers are the most accurate, however, electronic monitors that measure the conductivity of your body are a good estimation of body fat
  • emma155
    emma155 Posts: 152 Member
    Such mixed responses..... I have always used cardio before to lose weight but for some reason i just thought.. you use muscle to move meaning you use muscle to run which means running would build muscle and building mescle means weight gain? Just a thought.. Ill prob not worry too much about it.

    Serious question, what is the problem with building muscle and increasing your weight? If you follow your measurements or keep track of your BF%, it's not a bad thing. Fat takes more space so even when your weight goes up, you will likely look thinner and a lot stronger. A good training program includes both resistance and cardio. Cardio is overrated IMO. It's fun though.

    Besides, I am yet to see a woman that lifts weights that doesn't look great. HUGE difference between a lady that lifts and one that doesn't. And I am not talking about female bodybuilders. They do things that are way of the goals of the average woman.



    How can i measure my body fat?

    Calipers are the most accurate, however, electronic monitors that measure the conductivity of your body are a good estimation of body fat

    I have looked into buying one but its seems to be difficult to find a good make/brand and very expensive too...
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    This is a serious forum; it is no place for jokes.

    I don't know why so many people here are so ready to jump on everything they disagree with, wow. Buncha bullies.
    Sorry you think you're being "BULLIED", but its quite ridiculous to imply that the time of day a person does cardio has anything to do with muscle gains or loss...

    If you have some kind of research that supports the theory, please feel free to post that, but as general advice, its just laughable!

    google "sarcasm" and then come back to us.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    My problem is I know nothing about building mucle, this has never been one of my goals hence why I am trying to find out now how easy it is to gain muscle, but by the sounds of it its not very easy at all....?

    Absolutely right.

    There is often the "illusion" of growth which simply comes about with increased muscle definition: you think you are bigger because the muscle appears to have grown. In reality the fat covering it has decreased. If you measured yourself you could actually find you are smaller.

    In addition, you may experience a temporary increase in size due to fluid retention but that soon abates just as long as you keep eating at a calorie deficit.

    In short, you have little to worry about from exercising and particularly from weight training whilst eating at a calorie deficit.

    It is diet that is the key.
  • strikerjb007
    strikerjb007 Posts: 443 Member
    Such mixed responses..... I have always used cardio before to lose weight but for some reason i just thought.. you use muscle to move meaning you use muscle to run which means running would build muscle and building mescle means weight gain? Just a thought.. Ill prob not worry too much about it.

    Serious question, what is the problem with building muscle and increasing your weight? If you follow your measurements or keep track of your BF%, it's not a bad thing. Fat takes more space so even when your weight goes up, you will likely look thinner and a lot stronger. A good training program includes both resistance and cardio. Cardio is overrated IMO. It's fun though.

    Besides, I am yet to see a woman that lifts weights that doesn't look great. HUGE difference between a lady that lifts and one that doesn't. And I am not talking about female bodybuilders. They do things that are way of the goals of the average woman.



    How can i measure my body fat?

    Calipers are the most accurate, however, electronic monitors that measure the conductivity of your body are a good estimation of body fat

    yes, but the important thing is not the number, it's the trend. See, I don't care if my body fat is 4% or 6%... I mean, that's just a number, what I care about is whether than number is going up or down. So, I agree with you.
  • strikerjb007
    strikerjb007 Posts: 443 Member
    My problem is I know nothing about building mucle, this has never been one of my goals hence why I am trying to find out now how easy it is to gain muscle, but by the sounds of it its not very easy at all....?

    I agree. Losing weight = somewhat easy. Gaining muscle = NOT EASY.
  • sarafil
    sarafil Posts: 506 Member
    Even with a good hypertrophy program and a calorie surplus women typically gain no more than half a pound of muscle a month. Cardio won't make you gain muscle. If anything, you're probably losing muscle.
    ^^^
    This
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    Such mixed responses..... I have always used cardio before to lose weight but for some reason i just thought.. you use muscle to move meaning you use muscle to run which means running would build muscle and building mescle means weight gain? Just a thought.. Ill prob not worry too much about it.

    Your leg muscles are used to run but there isn't a lot of resistance. Your legs will get somewhat stronger and more conditioned from running but won't build much muscle in them. You need to keep adding heavier weights to add resistance to build muscle.
  • Danny_Boy13
    Danny_Boy13 Posts: 2,094 Member
    In order to build muscle you need to be using a lot of resistance. You need to lift HEAVY weights... have hard resistance. You also need to be eating at a calorie surplus to build muscle.

    While on a calorie deficit and doing cardio, you will not build muscle. Unfortunately with a deficit and cardio most of us will lose some muscle... more so with a higher deficit.

    ^ This FTW!!!