Fasting diet
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I didn't post that link. I am not here to argue with you about lemon juice. YOu can Google, you can read, you can read ONLY the information which a doctor posts. If a doctor doesn't write the article or say it I don't listen to it. But guess where I found out about it? My dad's doctor when he had cancer. Please find someone else to fight with. I am done. You are on ignore.
There are pages and pages of links for this. You want me to copy and paste them all here? How many would you like? Is ten enough or more? Or you can Google the following, "lemon juice kills cancer cells". Or rather "lemon juice kills cancer". Either way, let me know and I'll go to Google and then type that in and then do all of the copying and pasting for you.
The Master Cleanse can only be critiqued by medical professionals or by experienced cleansers who have also read the book. Thank you though for your input. Trust me, I'll come out healthier. I will be consuming 1200 calories a day, loaded with nutrients, but not a variety of nutrients. Lemon juice on an empty stomach has been proven to balance ph and kill cancer cells for one.I did it ten yrs ago and lost 30 lbs. I loved it. bc it worked for weight loss. I would lose 3 lbs a week from it, but gained 1 lb back by week's end so it was a 2 lb deficit. I didn't notice any health benefits to it. If they happened, I wasn't aware of them.
I am currently doing a different cleanse now. The Master Cleanse. It's controversial, but I have done extensive research and have tried it twice, I did NOT gain all the weight back and thus 7 mos later am trying it a third time. I begin in the morning and will end April 4th. I did it to cleanse from the allergies I some how adopted. I had migraines due to that too. The cleanse made me feel like a new person. I LOVED the way I felt. No allergies either. It call came back though.
So you're gonna go an entire month not eating solid food, or if you are, in pitifully small amounts? With your only nutrient source coming from a glass of syrup and cayenne pepper?
That's a bad idea. Really, really bad idea. At least with 5:2 fasting you have ample chances to get your food in and eat it well.
Lemon juice has been proven to kill cancer cells??
Link ?
Fantastic editing again - that link you just posted was disproving your point - not proving it.
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/lemon-cancer-cells.shtml
yes, you did post that link, which is where I got it from, and then you obviously realised your error and edited the post
You can't just post ridiculous claims, and then refuse to provide evidence to back them up. Especially for something as important as cancer
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/medical/a/Lemons-And-Cancer.htm
"While it's true that recent scientific studies have shown that lemons and other citrus fruits contain compounds which may have anti-carcinogenic properties, I've found nothing in the existing literature to support the wildly exaggerated claims above — for example, the claim that lemon is "10,000 times stronger than chemotherapy," or the claim that it is "a proven remedy against cancers of all types."
Nor have I found evidence to support the allegation that these claims originated from "one of the largest drug manufacturers in the world."
A representative of the Institute of Health Sciences told me the organization did not publish the text, was not the source of the claims, and indeed, as an allied health school, isn't in the business of providing medical information to the general public"0 -
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Shame, she was quite entertaining.0 -
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I think this is a good thing for everyone. I could feel myself dropping iq everyone i read that BS.0 -
I have just started the 5:2 diet. today is my frst fast day and so far it's fine. Please add me if you are doing this too. the support would be great
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I'm doing my first 5:2 day today. I've been on my TDEE calories for a few weeks and haven't seen a drop. Hoping this will help jump things in the right direction. I had a protein shake for breakfast (150 cals) then I'm keeping up my water all day and have a good dinner planned with turkey breast, mashed potatoes, carrots and asparagus. It's a work out day though so I'll go at a moderate level so that I don't crash myself out.0
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Your TDEE is your maintenance level - if you eat at that then no, you wont lose weight.0
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I put my TDEE at a deficit but I don't know. Maybe i'm just too impatient to see losses.0
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yep, love it, there is a good group on here.0
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Here are some points to consider for people in here interested in/ trying to do 5:2.......
1. If you are eating some of your allotted 500 cal for breakfast, then you are breaking your fast the moment you swallow your food. It's not "fasting" if your body is no longer fasted.
2. You shouldn't feel dizzy when fasting, only a little hungry. The dizziness is likely because you ate a 100 cal breakfast, got your body's digestive enzymes flowing, but then there wasn't really any food available. The result is that you feel miserable (and crave food).
Anyway, in answer to the original questions, I do 5:2 and I eat ~2000 cal on non fast days, and 500 cal for dinner (after fasting, no food at all, since the previous day's dinner) on fast days. That averages out to 1550 cal each day, which is important because it keeps me at a very reasonable deficit.0 -
Fasting is a bit if a misnomer, but for those if us who are here actually trying to follow the approach given by dr Michael mosely in his documentary and book, then it's ok to have your 500 calories whatever way you like.
Tdee is your total daily energy expenditure, its the amount of energy you actually use each day. You don't "set" it.0 -
Here are some points to consider for people in here interested in/ trying to do 5:2.......
1. If you are eating some of your allotted 500 cal for breakfast, then you are breaking your fast the moment you swallow your food. It's not "fasting" if your body is no longer fasted.
2. You shouldn't feel dizzy when fasting, only a little hungry. The dizziness is likely because you ate a 100 cal breakfast, got your body's digestive enzymes flowing, but then there wasn't really any food available. The result is that you feel miserable (and crave food).
Anyway, in answer to the original questions, I do 5:2 and I eat ~2000 cal on non fast days, and 500 cal for dinner (after fasting, no food at all, since the previous day's dinner) on fast days. That averages out to 1550 cal each day, which is important because it keeps me at a very reasonable deficit.
1. The benefits of fasting occur with 500 calories on your fasting day, no matter how you spread them out.
2. Each of our bodies is unique. I can eat small amounts spread throughout the day without getting dizzy or especially hungry. Likewise, I can eat nothing until dinner. I agree that there's no reason anyone should feel dizzy fasting, but I don't agree with your example. Most often, it's an electrolyte issue, where a mug of broth would help, or making sure enough water has been consumed.
I think it's great to share your experiences, but not so much to make blanket statements about a WOE that may not apply to all who do it.0 -
Fasting is a bit if a misnomer, but for those if us who are here actually trying to follow the approach given by dr Michael mosely in his documentary and book, then it's ok to have your 500 calories whatever way you like.
Tdee is your total daily energy expenditure, its the amount of energy you actually use each day. You don't "set" it.
This ^^ :drinker:0 -
Here are some points to consider for people in here interested in/ trying to do 5:2.......
1. If you are eating some of your allotted 500 cal for breakfast, then you are breaking your fast the moment you swallow your food. It's not "fasting" if your body is no longer fasted.
2. You shouldn't feel dizzy when fasting, only a little hungry. The dizziness is likely because you ate a 100 cal breakfast, got your body's digestive enzymes flowing, but then there wasn't really any food available. The result is that you feel miserable (and crave food).
Anyway, in answer to the original questions, I do 5:2 and I eat ~2000 cal on non fast days, and 500 cal for dinner (after fasting, no food at all, since the previous day's dinner) on fast days. That averages out to 1550 cal each day, which is important because it keeps me at a very reasonable deficit.
Dr Mosley says that you can eat your 500 calories any way you want to. I split mine between breakfast and dinner - no lunch. I know others who eat an apple for lunch because they cant wait till dinner. We have all lost weight with this diet. Have you read the book? He actually includes recipes to show how you can split your calories this way. I love this diet. Started Jan 14th and have lost 10lbs.0 -
As an aside, I'm pretty sure I saw a new S_U_M_M_E_R incarnation posting about the master cleanse recently.0
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i want to try this, but don't want to ruin my body with fad diets...how has it gone for you? or anyone else that has tried it?0
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hey! how was it? are you still on it and have you lost any weight? i might try it but im not 100% sure whether it's worth the effort until there will be results! 0
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Hi, how is everyone getting on with this fasting diet, I like the idea but am to scared to try incase I eat way to much on the 5 days!!! And I'm kinda doing ok slowly with watching my daily intake but be nice to eat a little more some days!!0
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The 5:2 is a great diet and way of life for people (in my opinion).
I'm not currently doing it as I am doing a keto diet for a few weeks. I like keto as it really helps with my cravings for junks food, I find it very easy once on it. I know lots of people do keto for life but I know I couldn't do that.
The 5:2 diet, I reckon I could follow for life (dropping to 6:1 at maintenance). I like being able to eat 2000 calories 5 days a week and only restricting calories 2 days. Yes it is a severe restriction, but after the first couple of fasts it is easier than you think. I always skipped breakfast just having a couple of cups of coffee, then something like a low calorie vegetable or chicken noodle soup for lunch. My evenings meals were normally some kind of meat or fish with lots of veggies. Or I did sometimes have Weight Watchers meals with lots of added extra veggies
Once I decide to come off keto I will definitely switch back to 5:2. It isn't for everyone, but I found that the thought of just 500 calories for two days a week was much worse than it actually was in reality.0 -
I think people should check with a doctor before starting it. It would surely mess with your blood sugar? I know that I couldn't do it, and diabetics probably would have problems too...0
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i do 20:4 intermittent fasting. love it! trying to shed the last 5-6lbs but it is getting tough now. i also follow a ketogenic diet (high fat/mod protein/low carb). for maintenance i plan to switch to 5:2 fasting and slowly add "slow" carbs back.
intermittent fasting works great for me because i have an "all or nothing" personality. i eat one big meal a day and that's it. before i was eating multiple small meals and it just drove me nuts and made me eat more. i couldn't handle eating small 300-400 calorie meals/snacks every 3-4 hours. it was like i was being teased. with IF, i just get it all done and over with in one big bang.
it's an individual choice though and it's all about finding what works for you. for every person pro-fasting, you'll find some one against it.0 -
Thank you. I think I could do the 2 500 days. As I find in the week I'm so busy
I haven't got time to eat and practically force it in to get near goal. Yet other days I have no problem. It's the other days that worry me lol eating to much or still watching calories and not wanting to go over my usual 1400. And I know it's stupid but I think I find it hard to get my head around eating around 1800 rest week without piling on weight.0 -
What's 20:4. And does it work the same0
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I had planned on doing the 5:2 diet . I tried it yesterday and did not like it one bit. I felt tired and miserable and thought about nothing but food all day. I couldn't do it and ended up quitting. I'll just stick to 1500 cals a day. It just wasn't for me! Good luck! 0
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What's 20:4. And does it work the same
20:4 or any other combination (16:8, 18:6, etc) is intermittent fasting. you fast for 20 hours and eat within a 4 hour window. you do this everyday. i'm not the expert but the concept is the same.
all of it comes down to calorie deficits. how you make that calorie deficit is up to you. this is just a way of eating. in the grand scheme of things, i average a weekly caloric intake of 10,500 calories or 1500 calories a day. so if you can manage to eat 1500 calories in a 4 hour window, go for it. it can be tough to eat so much in so little time so that's why i eat lots of nuts, cheese, fatty cuts of meat, salmon, full-fat dairy, etc. i eat craptons of green leafy veggies, zucchini, cauliflower, eggplant too. lots of olive oil and butter as well. overall i feel great eating this way. but i'm not going to recommend it to anyone as everyone is different.0 -
What's 20:4. And does it work the same
Its another type of intermittent fasting, where you eat nothing for 20 hours (including sleeping time) and have a four hour eating window. I think it's a variation on the lean gains 16:8 where you have a 16 hour fast.
If you google lean gains you will find lots of info on it, I think it has many of the same health benefits as 5:2 fasting,0 -
There's 2 groups dedicated to 5:2 approach here on MFP:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/8005-5-2-fasting
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/8628-5-2-diet
It's not for everyone - diabetics in particular or anyone who has to watch their blood sugars. And anyone who has a tendency to disordered eating shouldn't try it.
The first fast is tough, but it does get easier, and the results seem to prove largely good - but again, not for everyone. As with any eating approach, you need to experiment and see what works for your body.0 -
I bought the Fast Diet book today. Figured I'd read it before beginning. I like the idea of intermittent fasting because I have zero willpower, especially when it comes to eliminating something from my diet. It seems easier to say 'I can have some of that tomorrow'. But my question is this... On MFP I would eat 1300 calories per day = 9100 per week, on the fast diet I would eat 2000 per day x 5 days per week + 500 x 2 on fasting days = 11000 per week. How will this jump start my weight loss???0
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I bought the Fast Diet book today. Figured I'd read it before beginning. I like the idea of intermittent fasting because I have zero willpower, especially when it comes to eliminating something from my diet. It seems easier to say 'I can have some of that tomorrow'. But my question is this... On MFP I would eat 1300 calories per day = 9100 per week, on the fast diet I would eat 2000 per day x 5 days per week + 500 x 2 on fasting days = 11000 per week. How will this jump start my weight loss???
Intermittent fasting (which is what the 5:2 eating style is) will not jump start your weight loss. It is a way to manage adherence and fit calorie restriction into your lifestyle.0 -
I bought the Fast Diet book today. Figured I'd read it before beginning. I like the idea of intermittent fasting because I have zero willpower, especially when it comes to eliminating something from my diet. It seems easier to say 'I can have some of that tomorrow'. But my question is this... On MFP I would eat 1300 calories per day = 9100 per week, on the fast diet I would eat 2000 per day x 5 days per week + 500 x 2 on fasting days = 11000 per week. How will this jump start my weight loss???
Intermittent fasting (which is what the 5:2 eating style is) will not jump start your weight loss. It is a way to manage adherence and fit calorie restriction into your lifestyle.
Totally agree. Just like 6 meals a day doesn't increase your metabolism, neither does one a day twice a week assuming same total weekly macros.
And also agree with the person above who said diabetics should not try this. I would hope that most diabetics would know this though.0 -
Hey fellow dieters! Fasting diet going well, though I am hungry today due to a non-fasting, non-dieting 3 wonderful days spent in Devon. Surprisingly I only gained 2lb, so will be interesting to see what happens by the end of this week. It's not the easiest diet I've ever done, but absolutely beats calorie counting, points counting, etc. Don't think a little bit of absitence will do me any harm :laugh: and of course, there's always tomorrow. Happy Monday, have a good week!0
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