Fitness myth pet peeves...
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"Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
This argument is what drives me up the wall. Maybe I'm the only one who sees the implied "a fixed volume of" before "muscle weighs more than fat" but nobody really thinks a pound of muscle is heavier than a pound of fat.
Cars weigh the same as bicycles, by this argument, but everyone knows you're not talking about a pound of car vs a pound of bicycles.0 -
No, you're not the only one. Anyone with a three-digit IQ can see volume is implied."Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
This argument is what drives me up the wall. Maybe I'm the only one who sees the implied "a fixed volume of" before "muscle weighs more than fat" but nobody really thinks a pound of muscle is heavier than a pound of fat.
Cars weigh the same as bicycles, by this argument, but everyone knows you're not talking about a pound of car vs a pound of bicycles.0 -
No, you're not the only one. Anyone with a three-digit IQ can see volume is implied."Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
This argument is what drives me up the wall. Maybe I'm the only one who sees the implied "a fixed volume of" before "muscle weighs more than fat" but nobody really thinks a pound of muscle is heavier than a pound of fat.
Cars weigh the same as bicycles, by this argument, but everyone knows you're not talking about a pound of car vs a pound of bicycles.
I'll third this. We all know exactly what is meant by "muscle weighs more than fat." I shake my head whenever someone is so annoyed and has to split hairs about density and weight. You know what's being said. Let it go.0 -
I have tried so hard to get people to understand that when you are comparing the weigh of any two thinks that volumes have to match. There is just no getting through. There are plenty of people out that that actually do think that muscle and fat weigh the same even though their justification for this insane conclusion is ridiculous.
No, you're not the only one. Anyone with a three-digit IQ can see volume is implied."Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
This argument is what drives me up the wall. Maybe I'm the only one who sees the implied "a fixed volume of" before "muscle weighs more than fat" but nobody really thinks a pound of muscle is heavier than a pound of fat.
Cars weigh the same as bicycles, by this argument, but everyone knows you're not talking about a pound of car vs a pound of bicycles.
If we were in a lab and the project was to compare the weight of gold and Styrofoam they would turn in a paper that would say:
"1lb of gold weighs the same as 1lb of Styrofoam" and call it a day.
I just have to take solace in the fact that there are people out there who understand what it means to compare the weight of two things.0 -
Running will wreck your knees / joints.
Drives me insane when I read this.............
This angers me to no end! The only reasons my knees and joints work correctly is because I ran and lost the fat that was crushing them!! The same people say, "Oh, I can't run because I have bad knees." Whatever. It's ok if you don't know about running shoes or are self conscious but don't give me the bad knees bullsh*t.0 -
Well, half the people in the world are below average.
I have tried so hard to get people to understand that when you are comparing the weigh of any two thinks that volumes have to match. There is just no getting through. There are plenty of people out that that actually do think that muscle and fat weigh the same even though their justification for this insane conclusion is ridiculous.
No, you're not the only one. Anyone with a three-digit IQ can see volume is implied."Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
This argument is what drives me up the wall. Maybe I'm the only one who sees the implied "a fixed volume of" before "muscle weighs more than fat" but nobody really thinks a pound of muscle is heavier than a pound of fat.
Cars weigh the same as bicycles, by this argument, but everyone knows you're not talking about a pound of car vs a pound of bicycles.
If we were in a lab and the project was to compare the weight of gold and Styrofoam they would turn in a paper that would say:
"1lb of gold weighs the same as 1lb of Styrofoam" and call it a day.
I just have to take solace in the fact that there are people out there who understand what it means to compare the weight of two things.0 -
No, you're not the only one. Anyone with a three-digit IQ can see volume is implied."Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
This argument is what drives me up the wall. Maybe I'm the only one who sees the implied "a fixed volume of" before "muscle weighs more than fat" but nobody really thinks a pound of muscle is heavier than a pound of fat.
Cars weigh the same as bicycles, by this argument, but everyone knows you're not talking about a pound of car vs a pound of bicycles.
I'll third this. We all know exactly what is meant by "muscle weighs more than fat." I shake my head whenever someone is so annoyed and has to split hairs about density and weight. You know what's being said. Let it go.
That's just it they aren't even splitting hairs. It isn't like they are technically right. They are completely wrong.
Muscle actually does weigh more than fat.
That is an actual objective fact regardless of the speakers opinion.
It is the people that hate the word "toning" that are splitting hairs. I can see how they could have a point in a technical sense. They at least have an argument. But yes when someone says they want to look toned we do know the look they are going for.
The people that think everything in existence weighs the same are flat out wrong. Some things do weigh more than other things and density is the reason for that fact.0 -
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Well, half the people in the world are below average.
Yeah but the other half are above average so it should balance out.0 -
^^^^^^ THIS!! Cracks me up every time!"Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
I just like to think of it as a sentence missing its tail end when I read it. "Muscle weighs more than fat *per cubic inch*" keeps my eyes from bleeding, lol.0 -
No, you're not the only one. Anyone with a three-digit IQ can see volume is implied."Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
This argument is what drives me up the wall. Maybe I'm the only one who sees the implied "a fixed volume of" before "muscle weighs more than fat" but nobody really thinks a pound of muscle is heavier than a pound of fat.
Cars weigh the same as bicycles, by this argument, but everyone knows you're not talking about a pound of car vs a pound of bicycles.
I'll third this. We all know exactly what is meant by "muscle weighs more than fat." I shake my head whenever someone is so annoyed and has to split hairs about density and weight. You know what's being said. Let it go.
That's just it they aren't even splitting hairs. It isn't like they are technically right. They are completely wrong.
Muscle actually does weigh more than fat.
That is an actual objective fact regardless of the speakers opinion.
It is the people that hate the word "toning" that are splitting hairs. I can see how they could have a point in a technical sense. They at least have an argument. But yes when someone says they want to look toned we do know the look they are going for.
The people that think everything in existence weighs the same are flat out wrong. Some things do weigh more than other things and density is the reason for that fact.
But witches DO weigh the same as ducks ...0 -
Well, half the people in the world are below average.
Yeah but the other half are above average so it should balance out.
I think it averages out.0 -
Lactic acid build up is what makes you sore.
NO, its small micro tears in your muscles and some inflammation. That is why you are sore. One of the first things I learned in A&P and I can't figure out why people are still tossing it around as fact!0 -
Running will wreck your knees / joints.
Drives me insane when I read this.............
This angers me to no end! The only reasons my knees and joints work correctly is because I ran and lost the fat that was crushing them!! The same people say, "Oh, I can't run because I have bad knees." Whatever. It's ok if you don't know about running shoes or are self conscious but don't give me the bad knees bullsh*t.
As long as we're all agreed that it makes women hypothyroid in order to protect their delicate lady parts.0 -
This is no true???? *sigh*"You can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time"
Ohhh that hurt me to my heart when I found that out.
I feel like when I found out Santa Claus isn't real. 0 -
This is no true???? *sigh*"You can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time"
Ohhh that hurt me to my heart when I found that out. I feel like when I found out Santa Claus isn't real.
Wait....santa isnt...WHAT?!0 -
I like where this one is going.:laugh:Well, half the people in the world are below average.
Yeah but the other half are above average so it should balance out.
I think it averages out.0 -
No, you're not the only one. Anyone with a three-digit IQ can see volume is implied."Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
This argument is what drives me up the wall. Maybe I'm the only one who sees the implied "a fixed volume of" before "muscle weighs more than fat" but nobody really thinks a pound of muscle is heavier than a pound of fat.
Cars weigh the same as bicycles, by this argument, but everyone knows you're not talking about a pound of car vs a pound of bicycles.
I'll third this. We all know exactly what is meant by "muscle weighs more than fat." I shake my head whenever someone is so annoyed and has to split hairs about density and weight. You know what's being said. Let it go.
That's just it they aren't even splitting hairs. It isn't like they are technically right. They are completely wrong.
Muscle actually does weigh more than fat.
That is an actual objective fact regardless of the speakers opinion.
It is the people that hate the word "toning" that are splitting hairs. I can see how they could have a point in a technical sense. They at least have an argument. But yes when someone says they want to look toned we do know the look they are going for.
The people that think everything in existence weighs the same are flat out wrong. Some things do weigh more than other things and density is the reason for that fact.
But witches DO weigh the same as ducks ...
Well yeah but that is because they are both made of wood.0 -
going faster = burning more calories
This just really isnt very true. I see women going super fast on the elliptical machines with little to no resistance and i want to tell them to slow down and bump up the resistance but i suspect that would be rude.
Serious question: Resistance burns more, even during cardio workouts? I thought that was just for weight training. Well damn, I didn't know that! Huh!
It's not so much resistance or speed - it's intensity. The higher the intensity the higher the calorie need.
You can do that by increasing speed, or resistance or both...
I really dont think so. If youre just free wheeling on a machine with no resistance youre not going to burn much more than just going slow. Also, see this article which says that running any faster than 6.0 does not provide much more calorie burn. I was pretty shocked by that one and not sure i totally believe it but there is some science behind it:
http://walking.about.com/od/calorie1/a/calorieswalkrun.htm
I burn roughly the same amount of calories per mile whether I run at 6mph or 8mph -- the difference is that if I run for 30 minutes at 6mph I only run 3 miles; if I run for 30 minutes at 8mph I'm running roughly 4 miles therefore burning more calories because I ran a further distance in that 30 minute span of time.
I should also add that I'm a strong believer in short speed sessions and their effect on burning more fat than longer, slower running. I prefer my 2-5 mile runs when I can pick up tempo once a week and really kill my lungs and legs.0 -
Ah but can we not also build bridges out of muscles?But witches DO weigh the same as ducks ...0 -
Not a myth, but I'll give my #1 current pet peeve.
"I'd like to start running. How do I do this?"
It's running. Like, similar to walking but faster. My kids learned to walk and then started running about 3 months later. Children do it in the park all day every day but grown *kitten* adults have to post a forum topic to be ask how to buy shoes, run (similar to walking, but faster) and don't overdo it?
oh, and don't forget to buy your hrm first because if you don't your heart might explode! yes, so many exploded hearts on the running trail by my house.
I love this ^^^ :laugh:0 -
Just don't tell Bull about the Easter Bunny.
This is no true???? *sigh*"You can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time"
Ohhh that hurt me to my heart when I found that out. I feel like when I found out Santa Claus isn't real.
Wait....santa isnt...WHAT?!0 -
Running will wreck your knees / joints.
Drives me insane when I read this.............
This angers me to no end! The only reasons my knees and joints work correctly is because I ran and lost the fat that was crushing them!! The same people say, "Oh, I can't run because I have bad knees." Whatever. It's ok if you don't know about running shoes or are self conscious but don't give me the bad knees bullsh*t.
But what if martial arts ruined your knees, combined with getting older, THEN you try to run? Yeah, that's why I don't run. Plus, it's mind numbingly boring to me.0 -
This is no true???? *sigh*"You can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time"
Ohhh that hurt me to my heart when I found that out. I feel like when I found out Santa Claus isn't real.
Wait....santa isnt...WHAT?!
It is not as forlorn as you think. Lets say that you are trying to gain fat and lose muscle as a part of your overall goal. You can focus on muscle gain for a few months and then focus on reducing fat for a few months and then switch back and forth. In this way you can reach your goal with more muscle and less fat. So while you aren't able to multitask you can hyper thread.0 -
No, you're not the only one. Anyone with a three-digit IQ can see volume is implied."Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
This argument is what drives me up the wall. Maybe I'm the only one who sees the implied "a fixed volume of" before "muscle weighs more than fat" but nobody really thinks a pound of muscle is heavier than a pound of fat.
Cars weigh the same as bicycles, by this argument, but everyone knows you're not talking about a pound of car vs a pound of bicycles.
I'll third this. We all know exactly what is meant by "muscle weighs more than fat." I shake my head whenever someone is so annoyed and has to split hairs about density and weight. You know what's being said. Let it go.
That's just it they aren't even splitting hairs. It isn't like they are technically right. They are completely wrong.
Muscle actually does weigh more than fat.
That is an actual objective fact regardless of the speakers opinion.
It is the people that hate the word "toning" that are splitting hairs. I can see how they could have a point in a technical sense. They at least have an argument. But yes when someone says they want to look toned we do know the look they are going for.
The people that think everything in existence weighs the same are flat out wrong. Some things do weigh more than other things and density is the reason for that fact.
But witches DO weigh the same as ducks ...
Well yeah but that is because they are both made of wood.
*Facepalm to me* I forgot about that.
Clearly, you are a man of science. Tell me, what is your name?0 -
But witches DO weigh the same as ducks ...
This is so universal that it hardly needs to be mentioned.
Very small rocks!0 -
I'll happily admit that my point is a rather pedantic one, but IMO claiming thermodynamics applies to food in the human body is also pedantic so I think it's only fair game. :laugh:The first law of thermodynamics applies to humans but not in the way people want it to. It does not state that all caloric content of swallowed food is absorbed by the body nor does it state that macronutrients must be burned or 'do work' before leaving the body.
Correct! It states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. ERGO: Calories in = calories out
Excess calories in are stored as fat. When calories out > calories in, fat stores are tapped.
One can have protein or glucose in their urine, or exhale alcohol for example. Those are calories out without 'burning' them and violate the "equation." The energy in this context is stored in the bonds of molecules, and there's no law that says the molecules cannot leave the body in the same state as they entered it. Also you can say the same with calories in, not everybody absorbs everything they've eaten.
However it is consistent with an individual, at least consistent enough that counting calories (and calories in/out) still does work very effectively and IMO is the best weight loss strategy. But the first law of thermodynamics isn't about molecules entering or leaving a body.
It doesn't matter if they are "burned" or "expelled," or whatever the process. They still go out. :laugh:
What goes in has to go out, or get stored.0 -
But witches DO weigh the same as ducks ...
This is so universal that it hardly needs to be mentioned.
Very small rocks!
Churches! Churches!0 -
Everything that's ever been said on MFP.
Pretty much this, including this thread.
Since several "myths and pet peeves" people are upset about are actually good strategies for someone starting out.0 -
You can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time (this made me sad when I found out)
This is news to me. What is that about?
You cannot be both catabolic and anabolic at the same time. When you are in a calorie deficit, you are catabolic all of the time; ergo, you cannot gain muscle mass at a caloric deficit. That said, you can increase strength and maintain the lean body mass you have. Many people think they've put on muscle when the fat starts shedding and they note that they have really "toned up"...but really, they're just seeing the muscle they already had an just didn't know it because it was buried in the fat suit.
Best post ever!0
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