PLS POST SUCCESS WITH BARIATRIC SURGERY

a_claire

I've never understood how people that have to lose 10% of their weight before surgery still go through with it. If you're a 250 pound person, and manage to lose 25 pounds by yourself, why do the surgery? Sure, losing it the old fashioned way is harder...but nothing good comes easy.

Just my opinion...

mandyabraio

I had VSG on 11/5/12 it was the best thing I ever did and it saved my life!! Friend me if you like!

Juliew518

I've never heard of a doctor who'd do an RNY on someone who only wants to lose 25 lbs.

I've never understood how people that have to lose 10% of their weight before surgery still go through with it. If you're a 250 pound person, and manage to lose 25 pounds by yourself, why do the surgery? Sure, losing it the old fashioned way is harder...but nothing good comes easy.

Just my opinion...

Hazel2005

I've never heard of a doctor who'd do an RNY on someone who only wants to lose 25 lbs.

I've never understood how people that have to lose 10% of their weight before surgery still go through with it. If you're a 250 pound person, and manage to lose 25 pounds by yourself, why do the surgery? Sure, losing it the old fashioned way is harder...but nothing good comes easy.

Just my opinion...

I may be wrong, but I think they meant if you can buckle down and lose 25 - 50 some pounds on your own before the surgery, why not just continue; not that they only had 25 to 50 lose.

FiveElevenClimb

Again, in response to your lack of research. Insurance won't cover weight loss surgery unless there are underlying medical conditions that it will help, i.e., diabetes, hypertension, etc. It's not glamorous. And you just don't wake up and say, "oh, I'm fat. I'm going to have surgery." After you personally make the decision you go through MONTHS of preparation for it -- you have to take classes in nutrition, you undergo psychiatric evaluation, and you have to, yes, go on a diet and maintain so the doctors know you can. Research before you judge. Please.

Unfortunately your reasoning, while sound on many levels, is not entirely correct. Bypass surgery does change your body metabolically which is why the weight loss is so fast. Your doctor bypasses a portion of your intestines that digests food and absorbs calories which in turn causes your metabolism to rise. Basically, after a bypass, the 100 calories that a normal person eats registers at maybe 60 or 75 due to the actual bypass of the intestines. In addition, your body reacts as if it has been injured and your metabolism rises even more. This is why people lose so quickly with a bypass. Plus the fact that they can't eat but maybe 1/2 to 1/4 of what they ate before. However, eventually, your body adjusts to this. Also, there is a substance called ghrelin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghrelin). After your surgery, your body no longer produces this, and studies have shown that this is a big factor in the curing of diabetes. Check out the research of D. Elahi and others before you talk about bariatric surgery being a cop out -- it saves lives. Because of RNY's success at treating diabetes (instanteously before weight is lost) have made researchers think about doing this surgery on normal weight people with out of control diabetes. And don't spout off that it cures diabetes immediately because people can't eat, blah, blah, blah. Check out the research. As any diabetic will tell you, after something traumatic such as surgery, your sugars almost always skyrocket and then level out. When people have this surgery, their diabetes is cured almost immediately with no evening out, and often, even if they gain weight again -- the diabetes does not return. This surgery is not a cop out. The fact that you keep saying that you wouldn't necessarily call it a cop out indicates you do think that. However, you are basing your "opinon" on an assumption without knowing all the facts. Yes, of course, people can lose weight strictly through diet and exercise, and most people can. But the fact is that there are also many people who due to diabetes and other metabolic disorders brought on through years of not eating right, genetics, or whatever can't lose the weight without the surgery. It is very very difficult for diabetes to "diet" because they have to maintain their blood sugars at even levels. I am not saying it can't be done, but in many instances having the surgery brings them to a safer point so that they can eat healthier and exercise -- which they may not have been able to do before. It's a very complex issue.

Don't insult the people who truly need the surgery due to your own prejudices.

I would like to amend my previous statement. I wouldn't necessarily call it a cop out but I will say that it is never necessary when the reasoning behind the surgery is solely done as a mode of weight loss. It is not the surgery that causes you to lose weight, it is the fact that it forces you to eat in a caloric deficit. Nobody is a special snowflake. If you have the motivation to lose weight it is possible for everyone by simply choosing to eat less and move more. The surgery can force you to eat less or you can get a healthy relationship with food and simply decide enough is enough, you've had it and achieve the exact same thing by eating at a deficit of your own accord. People may say they have tried everything but the fact is they haven't. Why not buy a cheap food scale and actually measure what you are eating and make sure that is less than your TDEE. Then try incorporating more exercise into your day. I can say with 100% surety that if you eat below your TDEE you will lose weight. It may not be as fast as you hoped but it will happen. The upside to this is you are then forced to gain a healthy relationship with food, learn moderation, and gain some restraint when it comes to food. Thus you get to the root cause of why you eat more than you body needs. To those of you who say the surgery saved your life, I am so glad that you were indeed saved, but the surgery didn't do it, the calorie deficit did. Best of luck.

You should have read the first line when i said that it is done solely as weight loss. That in fact means no medical reasoning. And I was not insulting anyone. I actually congratulated them. Reading is fundamental.

Again I wasn't Judging. Just giving them an alternative look. But go ahead and tell me what I meant by what I said. You obviously know better that me what is running around in my head. Best of luck to you OP in whatever you choose to do. I'll be there to root you on and congratuate you no matter how you achieve weight loss.

chocl8girl

I don't even know why I am bothering to reply to this, since I see all of the "easy button" and "anecdotal evidence of failure" people have already visited, but I am a lap band patient (14 months out), and I am a success story. I have lost nearly 70 pounds since my surgery (almost twice what was projected for me to lose) and over 100 pounds altogether so far. I work my *kitten* off. Literally. It is not a solution. It is a tool that you MUST LEARN how to use, or yes, there is a possibility of failure. The work must still come from within you.

The way I look at it is this: some people need training wheels. Others do not. If you do not, awesome for you. I do, and I am not ashamed of that. And I will use my training wheels as they are meant to be used, as a learning tool, not as a crutch, to get me to where I want to be.

Good luck to you, OP, I will be keeping you in my thoughts, you are a very brave and wonderful person, and you deserve the very best! :flowerforyou:

HolsDoinIt

Hello Everyone I will be getting the sleeve done in two weeks and was wondering if you could post your success with weight loss surgery. Thanks!

there is a sleevers group here on MFP.there are lots of members with great stories and advice....i had mine done in Nov 2 of 2012...I am down 95 lbs since the middle of September...but alot of ppl think that getting the surgery is the answer but its just a tool to aide in the weight loss journey...you still have to eat right and exercise or the results wont be what is recommended...

lilmissymoo90

have u tired loosing weight naturally i fit all the requirements for getting gastric band on the nhs when i started but in my eyes surgery is harder .. i have a person friend who regrets it and wishes she had of tried loosing weight naturally first .. good luck with whatever you decide thou x

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StaceyH1968

I had the sleeve done 06/27/2011 and have lost 126 lbs. I excersize 3 -4 days a week and make a conscious effort to eat healthy. The surgery will help you to lose the weight in the beginning because you eat such a small amount, but it is up to you to continue to make the right choices of eating healthy and excersizing.

You may want to go to obesityhelp.com to chat with others who have had or are looking at surgery options for weight loss.

lisa77marie

I'm just adding too, for those of you who think this is the "easy" way out, it's NOT. You have to be extra diligent with your food consumption and exercise. In addition, for those of you who don't "understand why if you'd already lost 10% of your body weight, you wouldn't finish on your own without surgery" it's easier said than done. I've lost 10% of my weight approximately 10 times for the last 20 years, I just gain it back. Being obese should be described as an illness. Until you've struggle with your weight and felt as hopeless as those of us who decided on surgery, as a last resort, I say, keep your negativity to yourself. If you don't like weight loss surgery, please don't reply to this post. Nobody reading this wants to hear "your opinion."

turkeyhunter60

It's ALL hard, even if you just take a pill to lose weight. Ther's still side effects. Good luck with the surgery, and healing. I hope it goes very well for you.

I injured my heal last week working out, and now just as it is healing, I hurt my back somehow. They will both heal. and I will continue on my journey. Good luck, and prayers be with you.

TracyMcCarroll

I had Gastric Bypass RNY January 26, 2012 and have lost 110 lbs. The day of my surgery I weight 268 and today I'm at 158 and have never been happier. Weight loss surgery is not the easy way out, and it's still a lot of work, but you will have a tool to help you be successful. I have 2 friends who had the sleeve and they both have lost in excess of 100 each.

Good luck! I wish you much success and happiness with your new body! :happy:

slim4life9112013

I lost 90 lbs in 35 weeks with Slim4life program now Slimgenics; while co-worker had gastric bypass; she lost very little weight and gained all back & then some. It's like many others like Al Roper news broadcaster etc. If you don't change what caused the weight gain it will come back!

We had gone to class & we changed our mind because of all the risks, I know if being 57 yrs. of age with underactive thyroid; sleep apnea over 40 and multiple meds that caused weight gain that there is NO excuse not to however I have to change the reason; after losing weight went back to skipping multiple meals; ate once a day; starvation mode where everything you eat turns into fat. So this time I'm fixing & losing from with in; and doing so with out smoking...

Wishing you the best of luck in your choice and remember you can change your mind if you choose to.

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tleight817

I had surgery 10 years ago. I considered it a success and lost 175 pounds. I believe it saved my life at the time. Unfortunately (after 2 pregnancies and a bout with depression the last 2 years) I have gained back 70 of those pounds as the mechanisms stopped working (the esophagus was stretched which actually allows me to eat more than I would pre-surgery). I did have some post-op complications with Pancreatitis a few months after surgery and I do struggle with vitamin deficiencies (Iron, B-12, and Vitamin D) and have to stay on top of En-fusions and shots, etc...but I still would not change anything. i consider these issues minor in what I would have dealt with if I had not had the surgery. Best of luck to you and I do not feel it is a cop out. Some of us were born Obese and will struggle with it forever. It's still a diet and commitment and it won't work forever. It's just a tool to regain some normalcy after being morbidly obese for so long and struggling with being close to 400 pounds. It will greatly improve the quality of your life and you can very well go on to lead a healthy life with minimal complications. I have lost weight (and regained) weight since I was 8 years old and most recently lost 60 pounds after committing to exercising daily for at least 2 hours per day and eating right and once I went back to work full time and struggled with time management and couldn't keep up with that amount of exercise, I gained it back. I will re-lose it the same way, I have no doubt, it just won't be as easy or fast as when I had the surgery and that's okay. Food addiction is mental and until you fight your demons with yourself and food, you will not be successful with any diet or surgery

itsmyvwbeetle

I recommend looking into that group. Good luck with your surgery!

I havent had it done but I had been approved for RNY. Did all the classes and counseling. Got the date set an everything. Highest weight was 272. Did the pre-surgery diet and lost 20 pounds. I told myself if I could do that there is no reason I couldnt keep doing that. I didnt.... I cancelled the surgery because I knew I could do it on my own. I was young, 30, and no co-morbidities. I was worried about the life long changes I was doing to my body when I just proved I could. A few years later I buckled down and lost 90 pounds. I just ate 1400 calories a day and go my butt up and moving. I quit focusing on weight because of stress (divorce, remarriage) and gained back 70. I've lost most of it again and this time I wont gain it back. I gained it back not from emotional eating, just eating like my husband. I knew better!!

Roni_M

I just wanted to wish you luck with your surgery. Ignore the negative people. I have no personal experience with weight loss surgery, but I am sure you have educated yourself on the topic before making such a big decision. I also don't think it's the "easy" way. It's a major surgery with risks and side effects. I hope your surgery goes well and you heal quickly. :flowerforyou:

FiveElevenClimb

I'm just adding too, for those of you who think this is the "easy" way out, it's NOT. You have to be extra diligent with your food consumption and exercise. In addition, for those of you who don't "understand why if you'd already lost 10% of your body weight, you wouldn't finish on your own without surgery" it's easier said than done. I've lost 10% of my weight approximately 10 times for the last 20 years, I just gain it back. Being obese should be described as an illness. Until you've struggle with your weight and felt as hopeless as those of us who decided on surgery, as a last resort, I say, keep your negativity to yourself. If you don't like weight loss surgery, please don't reply to this post. Nobody reading this wants to hear "your opinion."

Is it not your "opinion" that nobody wants to hear the ones talking about alternatives? We have the same right as you. I on the other hand absolutely respect your opinion. It in one valid argument, but not the only one. I see illness as something that we as humans have no control over. Like the flu. You can take all the necessary precautions and still get the flu. But the fact that we are in a society that has meals at restraunts exceeding 2000 calories just shows why obesity is so rampid. We as a human race are doing it to ourselves. We have the choice to eat more than we need or not to. So I say nay to it being an illness.

FiveElevenClimb

I just wanted to wish you luck with your surgery. Ignore the negative people. I have no personal experience with weight loss surgery, but I am sure you have educated yourself on the topic before making such a big decision. I also don't think it's the "easy" way. It's a major surgery with risks and side effects. I hope your surgery goes well and you heal quickly. :flowerforyou:

Why is it considered negative? Just because we have a different opinion? If we were attacking her for getting the surgery that would be negativity, but highlighting alternatives is not negative.

lawandfitness

I'm just adding too, for those of you who think this is the "easy" way out, it's NOT. You have to be extra diligent with your food consumption and exercise. In addition, for those of you who don't "understand why if you'd already lost 10% of your body weight, you wouldn't finish on your own without surgery" it's easier said than done. I've lost 10% of my weight approximately 10 times for the last 20 years, I just gain it back. Being obese should be described as an illness. Until you've struggle with your weight and felt as hopeless as those of us who decided on surgery, as a last resort, I say, keep your negativity to yourself. If you don't like weight loss surgery, please don't reply to this post. Nobody reading this wants to hear "your opinion."

I have a right to express my opinion as I am someone who almost went all the way through with it.
Nothing is easy.
I think it is a cop out and a risky life threatening surgery.
If you CAN lose 10 lbs you CAN lose ten lb more.
Weather or not you have the surgery there is still discomfort and commitment.
I know one woman who had the surgery and put the weight right back on after 5 years.
The only TRUE gaurentee is making the decision to control what goes in your mouth and what you out put for calories in terms of excersize.
It is a nasty dangerous surgery.
I chose not to take the final step and have the surgery because I love my son and that love has pushed me through.

I agree with Billie....... Everyone has the rigght to write their opinion, if YOU don't want to read it then don't read/write on public forums, or carry on...


To touch on the weight loss surgery... I agree with Billie, yes it is a tool to aide you with weight loss but a very dangerous tool, that could cost you your life..

My hubby wanted to have it done and I was dead against it. First off, we have 2 boys at home to raise, which was his reasoning for wanting the surgery.... I thought to myself, yes the surgery may help you live longer to be with the boys, but if the surgery is not done properly or if there is a complication you will not get to be with the boys, why, because you will be dead....

He still wanted to have it done and called me unsupportive, I told him I am supportive but at the end of the day I wanted a husband to come home to! I explained that to me the risks outweighed the benefits and with proper diet and exercise we could start to revamp our lifestyle.... but I am not going to lie, I was angry with him.... angry because he claimed to have tried dieting, lost 10-20 pounds and then would regain it because he was proud of his success, and would let himself slip. So I began to question, what would make this cycle any different just because you had surgery? Why have the surgery to vomit over and over until you could find what food worked best for the results of your surgery... to me this is not NORMAL!
And last, flame me people if you want; but surgery should only be done if you have a medical reason to have it done, not just because you ruined your body from a life time of bad food choices! What lesson would I be teaching my boys if I went and got the surgery because of years of bad eating, that was MY CHOICE! In the end I let my hubby keep all his appointments but told him that from that day forward we would be eating healthy and making huge lifestyle changes…. We did, he is down 30 pounds I am down 35, no plans of stopping and he has cancelled the surgery…. It can be done without surgery….

Edited to add: waht I don't get the most is you have to change your eating before the surgery to have it done, why not just continue with this?? You will do it to have the surgey but not do it just for yourself , meaning, to do it with proper diet and exercise... this I can not wrap my head around

Knee2010

I had the VSG in Nov 2011. At my 1 year checkup, I had lost 90 pounds. I have reached my doctors goal. Every one has their own personal reasons as to "why" they do what they do. For those of you who lose the excess weight by diet and exercise-I commend you. It is hard to stay focused long enough to accomplish that. For those who choose to have surgery, VSG, Bypass or lapband-I commend you also. Having surgery is certainly not the easy way out. Surgery is a "tool" that helps you/forces you to make different choices than you have in the past. Mostly by either quantity restriction or by food selection. The Sleeve forced me to make "smaller" choices and that is what I needed. So for me, the sleeve was the best thing. Prior to my surgery, I had to see a nutrionist and have a psych evaluation. I also had to attend support group meetings (which I still go to, mostly to help newbies). Surgery is a life changing choice, but I also firmly believe that one way is not "more right" than anohter way, just that everybody needs to find "THEIR OWN" way and then do it.

Good luck to you on your VSG journey and friend me if you want to.

FiveElevenClimb

I had the VSG in Nov 2011. At my 1 year checkup, I had lost 90 pounds. I have reached my doctors goal. Every one has their own personal reasons as to "why" they do what they do. For those of you who lose the excess weight by diet and exercise-I commend you. It is hard to stay focused long enough to accomplish that. For those who choose to have surgery, VSG, Bypass or lapband-I commend you also. Having surgery is certainly not the easy way out. Surgery is a "tool" that helps you/forces you to make different choices than you have in the past. Mostly by either quantity restriction or by food selection. The Sleeve forced me to make "smaller" choices and that is what I needed. So for me, the sleeve was the best thing. Prior to my surgery, I had to see a nutrionist and have a psych evaluation. I also had to attend support group meetings (which I still go to, mostly to help newbies). Surgery is a life changing choice, but I also firmly believe that one way is not "more right" than anohter way, just that everybody needs to find "THEIR OWN" way and then do it.

Good luck to you on your VSG journey and friend me if you want to.

And I commend you!! Fantastic work. I am not here to judge as so many have tried to say. Just trying to give alternatives.

OneDimSim

A friend had the lapband and yes she has lost weight. However, she is no longer as much fun to be around she belches constantly, eats sweets all the time (cause they go down easy) and is FREQUENTLY throwing up because she ate too fast or didn't chew enough etc. She is much more short tempered and I would guess malnourished. I'm sorry if this wasn't what you wanted to hear and I know there are plenty of those that have had success but at what cost?

OP - MFP does not have a lot of folks that support the surgeries - much less know much about them - - sorry! Try Obesityhelp.com. Please only take advice from folks that have had YOUR SURGERY - this is different from LapBand, DDS, RnY.....

I will also share this - when you ask VSG patients if they miss their old stomach - almost all will say NO!

To the person quoted - PLEASE UNDERSTAND - all surgeries are VERY different - VSG gives you the most chance at a normal life - as my surgeon says - "it is you with a smaller stomach" - the lap band has proven to be one of the worst ones.

ChgingMe

If she's getting the surgery in two weeks, she's gone through all the testing and counseling and there are no other options for her.

Good luck, OP. Sorry, but I don't have any experience or advice.

I meant no disrespect to the op. But I disagree with you, there are always other options outside of an evasive surgery. I started at nearly 380 and I know others who were bigger than I am that did it the hard way with diet and exercise. I considered surgery but then realized it was a huge cop out. YES maybe if she has other issues it felt like the ONLY option but like the person said right above me, at what cost? I know a girl who had LOST A TON of weight with surgery 10 years ago, today she has more than half that weight back and has constant health issues and vitamin issues within her body to where she has a constant picc line at home for vitamin shots. I only asked because if surgery isn't a MUST, then I strongly urge her to explore other options. Thats all.

A huge "cop out" huh? How about a huge "life changing event that forces one to make healthy decisions." Cop out my @$$. This was the hardest thing I have ever gone through. And it's people like you that talk about stuff that you have NEVER experienced, that would turn someone off to it....and it might be the only thing that saves their life. Who the hell do you think you are? I fought for 25+ years to lose weight. And all I did was gain. I was dperessed several times to the point where I had a shotgun in my mouth. I tried to drink myself to death. Everytime I would lose 5 pounds I would gain 10. Who the hell do you think you are? a "Cop out"????? You should be ashamed.

For the first time I can ever remeber, I wake up, refreshed, I have slept all night. No back pain. And I am HAPPY. And it was because I had surgery that forced me to change the way I eat. It's not a magic wand and it doesn't make you skinny overnight. And I still bust my *kitten* in the gym every chance I get. So before you go judging people....take a second....and think.

I commented on another post about this and got slammed as well. But here is my opinion. One which you have to understand is going to happen when you post something openly.
I too feel that surgery is a cop out and here's why.. you say you are busting your butt at the gym.. Why didn't you do that before? Just wondering. Also diet and exercise will ALWAYS work if you do. I'm sorry that you got to the point of almost committing suicide. That is horrible. But you have to understand. you are on a weight loss site If you want only positive feedback then you should post your comments on a site that specializes in bariatric surgical ways to lose weight. Here most if not all do it the old fashion way. Exercise and dietary changes. Some have lost upwards of 300 pounds or more. It can be done. You chose your way and we are choosing our way. Don't get upset when you don't hear what you want!

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chocl8girl

*sigh*

OP, you may be better off either sticking with the groups to discuss these specific issues (there are some VERY supportive WLS groups here! ) or going to other places like obesityhelp.com or thinnertimesforum.com or others I may not know about, and keeping this place for food/nutrition/exercise discussion only. Again, the best of luck to you!

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FiveElevenClimb

I'm just adding too, for those of you who think this is the "easy" way out, it's NOT. You have to be extra diligent with your food consumption and exercise. In addition, for those of you who don't "understand why if you'd already lost 10% of your body weight, you wouldn't finish on your own without surgery" it's easier said than done. I've lost 10% of my weight approximately 10 times for the last 20 years, I just gain it back. Being obese should be described as an illness. Until you've struggle with your weight and felt as hopeless as those of us who decided on surgery, as a last resort, I say, keep your negativity to yourself. If you don't like weight loss surgery, please don't reply to this post. Nobody reading this wants to hear "your opinion."

I have a right to express my opinion as I am someone who almost went all the way through with it.
Nothing is easy.
I think it is a cop out and a risky life threatening surgery.
If you CAN lose 10 lbs you CAN lose ten lb more.
Weather or not you have the surgery there is still discomfort and commitment.
I know one woman who had the surgery and put the weight right back on after 5 years.
The only TRUE gaurentee is making the decision to control what goes in your mouth and what you out put for calories in terms of excersize.
It is a nasty dangerous surgery.
I chose not to take the final step and have the surgery because I love my son and that love has pushed me through.

I agree with Billie....... Everyone has the rigght to write their opinion, if YOU don't want to read it then don't read/write on public forums, or carry on...


To touch on the weight loss surgery... I agree with Billie, yes it is a tool to aide you with weight loss but a very dangerous tool, that could cost you your life..

My hubby wanted to have it done and I was dead against it. First off, we have 2 boys at home to raise, which was his reasoning for wanting the surgery.... I thought to myself, yes the surgery may help you live longer to be with the boys, but if the surgery is not done properly or if there is a complication you will not get to be with the boys, why, because you will be dead....

He still wanted to have it done and called me unsupportive, I told him I am supportive but at the end of the day I wanted a husband to come home to! I explained that to me the risks outweighed the benefits and with proper diet and exercise we could start to revamp our lifestyle.... but I am not going to lie, I was angry with him.... angry because he claimed to have tried dieting, lost 10-20 pounds and then would regain it because he was proud of his success, and would let himself slip. So I began to question, what would make this cycle any different just because you had surgery? Why have the surgery to vomit over and over until you could find what food worked best for the results of your surgery... to me this is not NORMAL!
And last, flame me people if you want; but surgery should only be done if you have a medical reason to have it done, not just because you ruined your body from a life time of bad food choices! What lesson would I be teaching my boys if I went and got the surgery because of years of bad eating, that was MY CHOICE! In the end I let my hubby keep all his appointments but told him that from that day forward we would be eating healthy and making huge lifestyle changes…. We did, he is down 30 pounds I am down 35, no plans of stopping and he has cancelled the surgery…. It can be done without surgery….

Edited to add: waht I don't get the most is you have to change your eating before the surgery to have it done, why not just continue with this?? You will do it to have the surgey but not do it just for yourself , meaning, to do it with proper diet and exercise... this I can not wrap my head around

You made the right choice in MHO

When Iwas going through all the pre op stuff
the surgery video alone scarred the crap out of me
no way

I do not know ONE person who has ever said "i put on all this weight eating veggies and working out"

And to the person who blamed obesity on restaurant portion sizes shame on you!

Just because it is supersized doesnt mean you have to eat it!

I think obesity is OUR fault, condemnation for the choices we made and what we put in our mouths. Maybe as kids we had no choice but as adults we do.

The problem is we as americans want it all want it big and want it easy. It is easy to eat out becuase we dont have to cook so we eat out more than we should. We want to be passified and serviced.

Dont blame portions sizes, in reality eating out is a LUXURY not a life style! If we didnt overindulge on a daily basis and tip the scales we could afford to indulge on occasion a big portion of yummy restuaraunt food!


Obesity may or may not be a disease but we all have a choice what we do to our bodies!!! We did this to ourselves, you can blame the restuarants and society, etc.... ut at the end of the day it was you who made you what you were.

I ate myself over 200 lbs, nobody forced me. I made bad choices, not the restaurant. i indulged, i wasn't disciplined or motivated. I was weak and lazy.

I decided that wasnt going to be me. if I got some surgery that could end my life, I would STILL be weak and lazy just (maybe) a skinnier version.

You can lose this weight the right way.

Have you given MFP a chance?

Have you REALLY given moderation and healthy living a chance?
And I mean have you REALLY REALLY given it i chance? A long term chance?

I just wish you would change your mind about this but if you dont I wish you luck. i hope to see you back in the forums and on MFP making more healthy changes for yourself after the surgery.

And I am not trying to be mean, this is coming from my heart and I am very very passionate about being anti gastric of any form.

Sorry for the bad spelling.

I was the one talking about portion sizes and if you read it I said exactly what you did. That it is our fault for eating it. I was saying the same thing so could you please take the shame off me? pretty pretty please?