Can I log this as water?
ironmom77
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Many people have asked if they can log something like tea or coffee as water. The answers always sparked debate. I have devised this quick and dirty guide to help. Answer these questions, and you will never have to ask this question again.
1. Would you use it to water a plant or your lawn?
2. Would you put it in your dog's bowl or hamster's bottle?
3. Would you use it to fill a fish tank?
4. Does it fall from the sky when it's raining?
5. Can find large bodies of it to surf, fish, or swim in it?
6. Would you use it in a recipe instead of water?
7. Would you rinse your car or dishes with it?
8. Would you bathe, wash your face, or shampoo your hair in it?
9. Would you use it to rinse your mouth after brushing your teeth?
10. Can you build a snowman out of it or ski on it when it is in a frozen, crystallized form?
If you answered "no" to any of these questions, the liquid is probably not water. Don't log it as water. If you have added something to the water like Crystal Light or Mio, go back and ask yourself these questions about the "water" in its current, altered state. Again, if you answer any of these questions as "no" then it's not water.
1. Would you use it to water a plant or your lawn?
2. Would you put it in your dog's bowl or hamster's bottle?
3. Would you use it to fill a fish tank?
4. Does it fall from the sky when it's raining?
5. Can find large bodies of it to surf, fish, or swim in it?
6. Would you use it in a recipe instead of water?
7. Would you rinse your car or dishes with it?
8. Would you bathe, wash your face, or shampoo your hair in it?
9. Would you use it to rinse your mouth after brushing your teeth?
10. Can you build a snowman out of it or ski on it when it is in a frozen, crystallized form?
If you answered "no" to any of these questions, the liquid is probably not water. Don't log it as water. If you have added something to the water like Crystal Light or Mio, go back and ask yourself these questions about the "water" in its current, altered state. Again, if you answer any of these questions as "no" then it's not water.
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I think building a snowman using my pink Crystal Light water would be super pretty.0
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Coffee doesn't fall from the sky?0
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I just had my first big laugh of the day - thank you!0
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I don't quite see it as black/white as you do. For example, no I wouldn't fill up my fish tank with herbal tea (no caffeine), but I certainly would count it as water. But I wouldn't count Crystal Light or Mio or any of those things as water because they're filled with chemicals!0
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Adding flavoring to water doesn't diminish it's hydrating properties nor does it diminish it's effectiveness. I don't see why you wouldn't count it.
If I mix 8 ounces of water with 8 ounces of juice, then I would count the calories for the 8 ounces of juice and the water for the 8 ounces of water.
If I mix in a tablespoon of flavoring to 16 ounces of water then I'm going to count the 16 ounces of water.
I don't actually log water so I really don't care but this doesn't make any sense.0 -
Why did I log onto the forums today.........0
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So I guess sea water is okay to drink and log as water. Yes to those.:laugh:Many people have asked if they can log something like tea or coffee as water. The answers always sparked debate. I have devised this quick and dirty guide to help. Answer these questions, and you will never have to ask this question again.
1. Would you use it to water a plant or your lawn?
2. Would you put it in your dog's bowl or hamster's bottle?
3. Would you use it to fill a fish tank?
4. Does it fall from the sky when it's raining?
5. Can find large bodies of it to surf, fish, or swim in it?
6. Would you use it in a recipe instead of water?
7. Would you rinse your car or dishes with it?
8. Would you bathe, wash your face, or shampoo your hair in it?
9. Would you use it to rinse your mouth after brushing your teeth?
10. Can you build a snowman out of it or ski on it when it is in a frozen, crystallized form?
If you answered "no" to any of these questions, the liquid is probably not water. Don't log it as water. If you have added something to the water like Crystal Light or Mio, go back and ask yourself these questions about the "water" in its current, altered state. Again, if you answer any of these questions as "no" then it's not water.
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When you add something to water, it stops being water and starts being a water based solution. Water is the solvent, and whatever you put in it is the solute.0
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So I guess sea water is okay to drink and log as water. Yes to those.:laugh:Many people have asked if they can log something like tea or coffee as water. The answers always sparked debate. I have devised this quick and dirty guide to help. Answer these questions, and you will never have to ask this question again.
1. Would you use it to water a plant or your lawn?
2. Would you put it in your dog's bowl or hamster's bottle?
3. Would you use it to fill a fish tank?
4. Does it fall from the sky when it's raining?
5. Can find large bodies of it to surf, fish, or swim in it?
6. Would you use it in a recipe instead of water?
7. Would you rinse your car or dishes with it?
8. Would you bathe, wash your face, or shampoo your hair in it?
9. Would you use it to rinse your mouth after brushing your teeth?
10. Can you build a snowman out of it or ski on it when it is in a frozen, crystallized form?
If you answered "no" to any of these questions, the liquid is probably not water. Don't log it as water. If you have added something to the water like Crystal Light or Mio, go back and ask yourself these questions about the "water" in its current, altered state. Again, if you answer any of these questions as "no" then it's not water.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
LOL!! I should have specified "fresh water" and opposed to "sea water". The next question is, "How many calories are in sea water?"0 -
So people can only count it as water if it's absolutely pure H2O?When you add something to water, it stops being water and starts being a water based solution. Water is the solvent, and whatever you put in it is the solute.
Not tap water or bottled 'mineral water'?0 -
So....adding something to water makes it not water?
If I sprinkle seasoning on my chicken breast....is it still chicken breast? If no, what is it?
I was never very good in science class. Please answer me post haste.0 -
So people can only count it as water if it's absolutely pure H2O?When you add something to water, it stops being water and starts being a water based solution. Water is the solvent, and whatever you put in it is the solute.
Not tap water or bottled 'mineral water'?
This. Or, what if I pour a packet of crystal light in my mouth and then chug 20 ounces of water. Is it still water? If so then why does it matter if it mixes in the bottle/cup, in my mouth, or in my GI system?0 -
So people can only count it as water if it's absolutely pure H2O?When you add something to water, it stops being water and starts being a water based solution. Water is the solvent, and whatever you put in it is the solute.
Not tap water or bottled 'mineral water'?
This is a quick and dirty guide, not meant to go into all of the chemical properties of water. Technically speaking, there is no such thing as "pure" water as water is a universal solvent . Trace amounts of minerals or other substances are expected to be found in any water sample. What I am referring to in this statement is the addition of any substance to water that significantly alters its taste, color, smell, viscosity or specific conductivity.0 -
or you just stay hydrated, ya know making sure your pee is clear or close to and dont worry so much about logging water. Just my 2 cents0
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When you add something to water, it stops being water and starts being a water based solution. Water is the solvent, and whatever you put in it is the solute.
Sure but it's not like your body won't become hydrated because you added flavouring to your water.0 -
Many people have asked if they can log something like tea or coffee as water. The answers always sparked debate. I have devised this quick and dirty guide to help. Answer these questions, and you will never have to ask this question again.
1. Would you use it to water a plant or your lawn?
2. Would you put it in your dog's bowl or hamster's bottle?
3. Would you use it to fill a fish tank?
4. Does it fall from the sky when it's raining?
5. Can find large bodies of it to surf, fish, or swim in it?
6. Would you use it in a recipe instead of water?
7. Would you rinse your car or dishes with it?
8. Would you bathe, wash your face, or shampoo your hair in it?
9. Would you use it to rinse your mouth after brushing your teeth?
10. Can you build a snowman out of it or ski on it when it is in a frozen, crystallized form?
If you answered "no" to any of these questions, the liquid is probably not water. Don't log it as water. If you have added something to the water like Crystal Light or Mio, go back and ask yourself these questions about the "water" in its current, altered state. Again, if you answer any of these questions as "no" then it's not water.
Looks like you only made a list for people who agree with your part of the debate. I think MFP should just change the water intake to liquid intake or something like that since that is all that really matters.0 -
SMH! When will this debate end? For 30 years I never drank any straight H2O unless a dribble happened to go down my throat when I brushed my teeth. Somehow, miraculously, I have survived and am quite healthy actually.
You need to stay hydrated. Your body doesn't give a rat's *kitten* whether you drink purified spring water, lap it out of apuddle, make tea, drink milk, eat fruit or veggies to get it.
If your urine is lightly yellow then you get enough liquids. The whole 8 glasses thing is a complete myth and obsessing about what is water and what isn't is ridiculous.0 -
So....adding something to water makes it not water?
If I sprinkle seasoning on my chicken breast....is it still chicken breast? If no, what is it?
I was never very good in science class. Please answer me post haste.
Sprinkling seasoning on a chicken breast is a physical change. Much like chopping it or shredding it. When dissolve something in water, that is a chemical change. Have you ever noticed that when you add laundry detergent to water that it feels slicker, wetter? That's because the detergent has cause the bond angle of the H2O to change from its naturally occurring 105 degrees.0 -
Technically our body does absorb water from things like tea, coffee, even sodas, food, etc... So technically it is water lol. However, it is not recommended only because our body will also consume the sodium and sugar that comes along with most of those drinks.0
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So....adding something to water makes it not water?
If I sprinkle seasoning on my chicken breast....is it still chicken breast? If no, what is it?
I was never very good in science class. Please answer me post haste.
Sprinkling seasoning on a chicken breast is a physical change. Much like chopping it or shredding it. When dissolve something in water, that is a chemical change. Have you ever noticed that when you add laundry detergent to water that it feels slicker, wetter? That's because the detergent has cause the bond angle of the H2O to change from its naturally occurring 105 degrees.
What is this? A basic chemistry lesson?
Anytime you drink even pure H2O (which does exist, by the way) it will mix with something. Whether that something is food sitting in your stomach or intestines or a packet of crystal light, it doesn't matter.
Even if you put pure H2O into your mouth, it won't stay that way for long. Like you said, it is a universal solvent.
Your body can get the necessary water out of solution.0 -
Coffee doesn't fall from the sky?
I wish! I would like down on the ground with my mouth open!0 -
Even if you put pure H2O into your mouth, it won't stay that way for long. Like you said, it is a universal solvent.
Your body can get the necessary water out of solution.
If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate.
Bah Dam Bah
For real, though, I'm with ChristinaL...unless you have a separate digestive tract for liquid than for food, or you never drink within hours of eating, this whole discussion seems pretty pointless.0 -
Even if you put pure H2O into your mouth, it won't stay that way for long. Like you said, it is a universal solvent.
Your body can get the necessary water out of solution.
If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate.
Bah Dam Bah
For real, though, I'm with ChristinaL...unless you have a separate digestive tract for liquid than for food, or you never drink within hours of eating, this whole discussion seems pretty pointless.
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Why did I log onto the forums today.........
Because you love us. You really, really love us. Even if we have to make you.0 -
I respectfully disagree with your perspective.0
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This. Or, what if I pour a packet of crystal light in my mouth and then chug 20 ounces of water. Is it still water? If so then why does it matter if it mixes in the bottle/cup, in my mouth, or in my GI system?
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^^^ BAAHHAHHAAAA good point made my h2o almost come out my nose haha0 -
So....adding something to water makes it not water?
If I sprinkle seasoning on my chicken breast....is it still chicken breast? If no, what is it?
I was never very good in science class. Please answer me post haste.
Sprinkling seasoning on a chicken breast is a physical change. Much like chopping it or shredding it. When dissolve something in water, that is a chemical change. Have you ever noticed that when you add laundry detergent to water that it feels slicker, wetter? That's because the detergent has cause the bond angle of the H2O to change from its naturally occurring 105 degrees.
What is this? A basic chemistry lesson?
Anytime you drink even pure H2O (which does exist, by the way) it will mix with something. Whether that something is food sitting in your stomach or intestines or a packet of crystal light, it doesn't matter.
Even if you put pure H2O into your mouth, it won't stay that way for long. Like you said, it is a universal solvent.
Your body can get the necessary water out of solution.
Chemistry lesson? No. I am, however a water chemist. I do this for a living. Pure water must me be mechanically filtered through a deminerlizer and has a conductivity of 11 µS/cm or less. So while it does exist, it is not naturally occurring.
Water will dissolve anything in it path. You can dump a bunch of cyanide in water too. Would you still drink it and call it water? The entire point is one of nomenclature. You can call Crystal Light water if you want, but it is still aspartame, food coloring and preservatives that you wouldn't even pour on a plant. Do you really want that in your body?0 -
So let me ask it this way. If I took my multi-vitamin crushed it up, dissolved it in a glass of water and drank it could I count that glass as water? Now say I took my multi-vitamin ate it and washed it down with a glass of water, could I count that glass as water? The first one definitly breaks the rules mentioned above, but how are they different? I could say the same for a package of crystal light, if I took a package of crystal light and ate it without adding it to any water, then followed this up with a glass of water would that water count.0
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I think building a snowman using my pink Crystal Light water would be super pretty.
Ha ha! I so want to try that now
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So....adding something to water makes it not water?
If I sprinkle seasoning on my chicken breast....is it still chicken breast? If no, what is it?
I was never very good in science class. Please answer me post haste.
Sprinkling seasoning on a chicken breast is a physical change. Much like chopping it or shredding it. When dissolve something in water, that is a chemical change. Have you ever noticed that when you add laundry detergent to water that it feels slicker, wetter? That's because the detergent has cause the bond angle of the H2O to change from its naturally occurring 105 degrees.
What is this? A basic chemistry lesson?
Anytime you drink even pure H2O (which does exist, by the way) it will mix with something. Whether that something is food sitting in your stomach or intestines or a packet of crystal light, it doesn't matter.
Even if you put pure H2O into your mouth, it won't stay that way for long. Like you said, it is a universal solvent.
Your body can get the necessary water out of solution.
Chemistry lesson? No. I am, however a water chemist. I do this for a living. Pure water must me be mechanically filtered through a deminerlizer and has a conductivity of 11 µS/cm or less. So while it does exist, it is not naturally occurring.
Water will dissolve anything in it path. You can dump a bunch of cyanide in water too. Would you still drink it and call it water? The entire point is one of nomenclature. You can call Crystal Light water if you want, but it is still aspartame, food coloring and preservatives that you wouldn't even pour on a plant. Do you really want that in your body?
I've seen people in offices 'water' plants with everything from mixed cocktails to milkshakes and, interestingly enough, the plants thrived.0
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