Can I log this as water?

jenns1964

Thumbs up on this !

jennifer_417

Mouthwash is water?

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Penny1328

This is the most ridiculous post I've read here so far. C'mon people. Spend time on something more beneficial to your weight loss! SMH!!!!

binknbaby

Much as this made me smile, and as scientifically, literally, true as it may be, there must be a consideration in regards to the PURPOSE of logging water, which is to monitor hydration.

After all, some things, by this strict definition, are not water, but actually hydrate even BETTER than water (ie things with electrolytes).

So I think the real question is whether or not it hydrates. Things like herbal tea (caffeine-free) and juice still hydrate. Personally, I wouldn't count juice as water because it has sugars and other things that I'd want to log as a "food" rather than pure hydration. But then again, I only drink juice every once in a great while, so it's not a huge issue for me. But I do drink herbal tea and Vitalyte and Emergen-C, and I count those as "water", because they HYDRATE, and *don't DEhydrate*.

TheBeardedGentleman

This is the most ridiculous post I've read here so far. C'mon people. Spend time on something more beneficial to your weight loss! SMH!!!!

I was just about to say that. She was just giving her expertise and opinion. If you are losing weight and getting healthier then why should it really matter.

majikmiker

Me thinks this is another thread with no point designed to spark an argument that will go on for 20 pages until the moderators lock it before it can roll over into another thread......

Whew.....I need some pure, undiluted H2O that I can log into my food diary which no one really cares if I log it or not, with or without CL, Mio, vodka and cranberry juice or anything else that makes it go down that much better.

It's gotta be a Monday........:huh: :yawn: :ohwell:

georgina1970

SMH! When will this debate end? For 30 years I never drank any straight H2O unless a dribble happened to go down my throat when I brushed my teeth. Somehow, miraculously, I have survived and am quite healthy actually.

You need to stay hydrated. Your body doesn't give a rat's *kitten* whether you drink purified spring water, lap it out of apuddle, make tea, drink milk, eat fruit or veggies to get it.

If your urine is lightly yellow then you get enough liquids. The whole 8 glasses thing is a complete myth and obsessing about what is water and what isn't is ridiculous.

Not quite. Your body needs water to filtrate the by products/toxins from your body. If you never drink water your body can not do this efficiently. Yes you will get some water from fruit/vege etc but this is not sufficient on its own.

nokanjaijo

Nicely put! This was my, albeit less articulate, point. Not to insult the OP but I've only taken 12 hrs of University Chemistry and I know all this. I'm a physics major and I'm taking extra chemistry classes for fun so this seems like something a water chemist should know, right?

So funny that we agree about a lot of things! I did applied math...which is basically physics with extra computer science.

jonnythan

SMH! When will this debate end? For 30 years I never drank any straight H2O unless a dribble happened to go down my throat when I brushed my teeth. Somehow, miraculously, I have survived and am quite healthy actually.

You need to stay hydrated. Your body doesn't give a rat's *kitten* whether you drink purified spring water, lap it out of apuddle, make tea, drink milk, eat fruit or veggies to get it.

If your urine is lightly yellow then you get enough liquids. The whole 8 glasses thing is a complete myth and obsessing about what is water and what isn't is ridiculous.

Not quite. Your body needs water to filtrate the by products/toxins from your body. If you never drink water your body can not do this efficiently. Yes you will get some water from fruit/vege etc but this is not sufficient on its own.

You know that soda, milk, and coffee contain water yes?

SoDamnHungry

Reading this thread...has caused me pain.

CristinaL1983

So funny that we agree about a lot of things! I did applied math...which is basically physics with extra computer science.

Totally makes sense Great minds and whatnot :laugh:

LaLouve_RK

Many people have asked if they can log something like tea or coffee as water. The answers always sparked debate. I have devised this quick and dirty guide to help. Answer these questions, and you will never have to ask this question again.

1. Would you use it to water a plant or your lawn?
2. Would you put it in your dog's bowl or hamster's bottle?
3. Would you use it to fill a fish tank?
4. Does it fall from the sky when it's raining?
5. Can find large bodies of it to surf, fish, or swim in it?
6. Would you use it in a recipe instead of water?
7. Would you rinse your car or dishes with it?
8. Would you bathe, wash your face, or shampoo your hair in it?
9. Would you use it to rinse your mouth after brushing your teeth?
10. Can you build a snowman out of it or ski on it when it is in a frozen, crystallized form?

If you answered "no" to any of these questions, the liquid is probably not water. Don't log it as water. If you have added something to the water like Crystal Light or Mio, go back and ask yourself these questions about the "water" in its current, altered state. Again, if you answer any of these questions as "no" then it's not water.

CorvusCorax77

Many people have asked if they can log something like tea or coffee as water. The answers always sparked debate. I have devised this quick and dirty guide to help. Answer these questions, and you will never have to ask this question again.

1. Would you use it to water a plant or your lawn?
2. Would you put it in your dog's bowl or hamster's bottle?
3. Would you use it to fill a fish tank?
4. Does it fall from the sky when it's raining?
5. Can find large bodies of it to surf, fish, or swim in it?
6. Would you use it in a recipe instead of water?
7. Would you rinse your car or dishes with it?
8. Would you bathe, wash your face, or shampoo your hair in it?
9. Would you use it to rinse your mouth after brushing your teeth?
10. Can you build a snowman out of it or ski on it when it is in a frozen, crystallized form?

If you answered "no" to any of these questions, the liquid is probably not water. Don't log it as water. If you have added something to the water like Crystal Light or Mio, go back and ask yourself these questions about the "water" in its current, altered state. Again, if you answer any of these questions as "no" then it's not water.

So I guess sea water is okay to drink and log as water. Yes to those.:laugh:

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LOL!! I should have specified "fresh water" and opposed to "sea water". The next question is, "How many calories are in sea water?"

and, for the record, there are some bodies of fresh water that you can surf in. The great lakes come to mind. Tho surfing does normally happen in ocean water.

I love to surf.

CorvusCorax77

Coastal cities and ocean-islands with a lack of fresh water have long-used desalinization plants to convert salty sea water into fresh water. In consideration of the goofy flawed logic of the "pure water only" people on this thread, I must ask:

How are we going to break it to all of those people who's water comes from a desalinization plant that they are not drinking water?

Never mind....I think I get it now....Maybe it isn't water if they are members of MFP.

When I was in the Navy, we drank brominated water, exclusively, while on deployment. We were primarily in the middle east area where temperatures approached 140F in most places. Brominated water kept me well hydrated and very healthy.

i need to research this. "Brominated" is the number one reason I gave up Mountain Dew.

Mountain Dew is my second favortie source of caffeine, an important dietary nutrient that I cannot survive without.

I think it also might have some water in there.

jonnythan

Coastal cities and ocean-islands with a lack of fresh water have long-used desalinization plants to convert salty sea water into fresh water. In consideration of the goofy flawed logic of the "pure water only" people on this thread, I must ask:

How are we going to break it to all of those people who's water comes from a desalinization plant that they are not drinking water?

Never mind....I think I get it now....Maybe it isn't water if they are members of MFP.

When I was in the Navy, we drank brominated water, exclusively, while on deployment. We were primarily in the middle east area where temperatures approached 140F in most places. Brominated water kept me well hydrated and very healthy.

i need to research this. "Brominated" is the number one reason I gave up Mountain Dew.

Mountain Dew is my second favortie source of caffeine, an important dietary nutrient that I cannot survive without.

I think it also might have some water in there.

Mountain Dew contains no water. It is made of 50% joy, 50% happiness, and 50% sunshine.

Yes, that's 150%. 100% isn't enough for Mountain Dew.

krissy_krossy

So my tea isn't water. But if I suck on a tea bag, eat a spoonful of sweetener, drink 1.5 tablespoons of almond milk, and then drink 8 oz of water I can count the water. :drinker:

I've been doing it all wrong.

TheBeardedGentleman

You guys are so mean she has since deactivated her account.

LaLouve_RK

You guys are so mean she has since deactivated her account.

Weakness shall not be... mostly towards humor. You cant survive the net, you cant survive the planet.

geebusuk

Hopefully she'll have taken some of the well-researched advice with her.

I'd be pretty sure the water we had when we stayed at the £1.50 a night B&B here, the water we had would have been from the lake you see:

(Lake Malawi, there when I was 14 - definitely want to return there some day.)

louiselebeau

msliu7911

Many people have asked if they can log something like tea or coffee as water. The answers always sparked debate. I have devised this quick and dirty guide to help. Answer these questions, and you will never have to ask this question again.

1. Would you use it to water a plant or your lawn?
2. Would you put it in your dog's bowl or hamster's bottle?
3. Would you use it to fill a fish tank?
4. Does it fall from the sky when it's raining?
5. Can find large bodies of it to surf, fish, or swim in it?
6. Would you use it in a recipe instead of water?
7. Would you rinse your car or dishes with it?
8. Would you bathe, wash your face, or shampoo your hair in it?
9. Would you use it to rinse your mouth after brushing your teeth?
10. Can you build a snowman out of it or ski on it when it is in a frozen, crystallized form?

If you answered "no" to any of these questions, the liquid is probably not water. Don't log it as water. If you have added something to the water like Crystal Light or Mio, go back and ask yourself these questions about the "water" in its current, altered state. Again, if you answer any of these questions as "no" then it's not water.

So I guess sea water is okay to drink and log as water. Yes to those.:laugh:

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

LOL- ya know, all the parasites you swallow with the sea water will latch onto your insides and the fat will melt away! Not as effective as raspberry ketones and master cleanse but still a great option.

liittlesparrow

Uh, I'm pretty sure things like green tea can be logged as water.........

kgibson17

Awesome!

MouseTmom

I have never really liked water so was having a hard time drinking it. My doctor actually told me about the little individual packets of sugar free flavors for water. like many subjects brought up on the forums, there is NO CORRECT ANSWER - everyone is different and everyone has their own opinion! My opinion is that water is water whether plain, with flavor packets added, with coffee added, with tea added ETC ETC ETC.

AllAboutThatTreble

Man, I give up. :grumble:

K_Serz

SMH! When will this debate end? For 30 years I never drank any straight H2O unless a dribble happened to go down my throat when I brushed my teeth. Somehow, miraculously, I have survived and am quite healthy actually.

You need to stay hydrated. Your body doesn't give a rat's *kitten* whether you drink purified spring water, lap it out of apuddle, make tea, drink milk, eat fruit or veggies to get it.

If your urine is lightly yellow then you get enough liquids. The whole 8 glasses thing is a complete myth and obsessing about what is water and what isn't is ridiculous.

Not quite. Your body needs water to filtrate the by products/toxins from your body. If you never drink water your body can not do this efficiently. Yes you will get some water from fruit/vege etc but this is not sufficient on its own.

You know that soda, milk, and coffee contain water yes?

So does urine. Drink it, then log it as water.

CCusedtodance

I guess the correct way to find out the real answer to this whole debate, is to ask those that have lost weight. Did you lose weight drinking liquids that are water based? Or did you lose weight drinking your minimum + of water?

K_Serz

I guess the correct way to find out the real answer to this whole debate, is to ask those that have lost weight. Did you lose weight drinking liquids that are water based? Or did you lose weight drinking your minimum + of water?

No, the chemist already answered and closed this debate. Basically since you can reverse the change and boil any water out of any drink that contains H20, they say its water.

You know, because our bodies have a mechanism that can boil the water to 212 degrees and then cleanly use the evaporated H20 to hydrate ourselves.

Jolene8992

According to WW it counts if it doesnt have caffeine due to the diuretic effect. Stop being so rigid. Water has not been a huge factor in my weight loss. Crystal light, fruit infused water etc... but im doing just fine.