Still think your 1200 or less diet is a good idea?
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What MFP needs seriously is a poll where the 1200 or less eaters and the over 1200 eaters both state how long they kept the weight off. What is your guess as to who wins long term?0
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When I first signed up here, it asked my weight height etc and asked my goal weight and how much I wanted to lose each week. It gave me a dropdown with several choices. One of them (1 lb a week) said "recommended" beside it.
But there was absolutely nothing beyond that, nothing like, "recommended because if you choose 2 lb a week with not much to lose, it's not going to work well and you're also likely to be hungry all the time, feel like crap and maybe even get weak and dizzy and not lose extra and may hit a plateau anyway and have nowhere to go from there."
IOW, it practically dares you to set your goal to 2 lbs a week, because who (without having done tons of research first, and what percentage of people have when they are first signing up for a site like this) is going to choose only 1 pound a week when you can "just as easily" choose 2?
The point being, I suspect the vast majority of these threads (and all the people who suffer the same fate but just give up and never post threads) wouldn't need to exist if the signup process had more of a warning about (a reason/explanation for) going against the recommended weekly goal.0 -
'Nuff said...... I'm changing my setup....... 1200 has worked for me to get me going, but now I am starting to plateau............
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When I first signed up here, it asked my weight height etc and asked my goal weight and how much I wanted to lose each week. It gave me a dropdown with several choices. One of them (1 lb a week) said "recommended" beside it.
But there was absolutely nothing beyond that, nothing like, "recommended because if you choose 2 lb a week with not much to lose, it's not going to work well and you're also likely to be hungry all the time, feel like crap and maybe even get weak and dizzy and not lose extra and may hit a plateau anyway and have nowhere to go from there."
IOW, it practically dares you to set your goal to 2 lbs a week, because who (without having done tons of research first, and what percentage of people have when they are first signing up for a site like this) is going to choose only 1 pound a week when you can "just as easily" choose 2?
The point being, I suspect the vast majority of these threads (and all the people who suffer the same fate but just give up and never post threads) wouldn't need to exist if the signup process had more of a warning about (a reason/explanation for) going against the recommended weekly goal.
Good points. Part of the reason is that they may be intentionally keeping MFP as just a tool/calculator, and not actually providing any fitness and nutrition advice. Maybe that would lead to liability issues. Not really sure.
I think a large part of the problem here is people think MFP can help them lose weight in and of itself. They treat it just like any other weight loss "fix" or gimmick. When in reality it's just a calculator and logbook. There are no guidelines here (outside of forum threads). The only way this really works is when the user is educated. MFP can help you lose weight in the same way that a calculator can help you do your taxes. You still need to know what you're doing. And the calculator itself does not provide that.
I don't think the forums provide that either, quite frankly, as hard and as futily as we try. The signal to noise ratio is horrendous, due to garbage threads and people relentlessly arguing that black is white and up is down.
Only a small percentage of people will actually commit to educating themselves, do the research, follow a solid plan, and succeed. Just like in real life...0 -
Yeah, I think you can lose weight eating more than 1200 cals :laugh:
1421cals 112P/138C/50F 36g fibre, 2040 potassium in 3m 21s
peri peri fish & spinach soft tacos & smores pop tarts with pb crave cookie dough pb
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^^PB cookie dough on pop tarts....genius! Would have been more genius if you had them with ice-cream
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Yep - now next you should try and find "success stories" where people ate 1200 or less - and are proud to post their results(including pictures) spent an interesting hour the other day trying to find some :-)0
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I love that you did this.0
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with so much time on your hands, You could also do a search and find lots and lots of success stories of people eating 1200 cals and losing heaps of weight.
Nope - suggest you try and find those success stories - including pictures showing their awesome results - sorry to burst your bubble - they do not exist!0 -
Yep - now next you should try and find "success stories" where people ate 1200 or less - and are proud to post their results(including pictures) spent an interesting hour the other day trying to find some :-)
Elle I just wanted to say you are my new hero! I just saw your diary. So much for older ladies having to eat like a bird. Thanks for showing that isn't true.0 -
Great post as always Taso.
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Brilliant post (and great pic)
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Perhaps you should put on your glasses on. They are there.with so much time on your hands, You could also do a search and find lots and lots of success stories of people eating 1200 cals and losing heaps of weight.
Nope - suggest you try and find those success stories - including pictures showing their awesome results - sorry to burst your bubble - they do not exist!0 -
Just wanted to add my little story to this :laugh:
I'm 26, 5'9.5 and pretty active and I started out on 1200 cals to lose... back then I actually remember searching the internet for "How to lose 20lbs in 30 days!" so of course I started off by saying I wanted to lose 2lbs/week!
I was absolutely starving for the first week or two, but then it got easier and I felt a lot more satisfied on that amount. I was dropping weight ridiculously fast: over 7lbs in the first week alone, and I only had around 40lbs to lose! I kept on losing around 1-2lbs a week so it was pretty addictive. I never hit the plateau and I think if I'd have carried on I'd have reached my goal scale weight a long time ago now...
BUT! After a couple of months of being on MFP and doing a lot of research I wondered if I was losing weight too fast? This may have been in my head but I noticed the skin between my thighs was becoming very 'loose' and wrinkly looking, and it made me wonder. When I thought about it too... since being on 1200cals I'd get home from work and need a couple of hours sleep (6 hours at a desk job), I'd start my workout on the elliptical machine and my legs would feel exhausted from the start and I was like a zombie 99% of the time.
So I upped my calories to 1650 and ate back any exercise cals, I didn't lose or gain for a couple of months but then the scale started to go down again... VERY slowly but I'm able to have awesome work outs, I've started lifting heavy and I don't feel tired all the time. My focus now has changed to losing body fat NOT just weight, as one of my goals is to look good in a bikini.
I worry though because I see other girls my height and weight or heavier, who look a lot firmer and slimmer than I do. I wonder if I lost a lot of LBM when I cut my calories so drastically and now even when I get to my goal weight I'm not going to be happy as my body fat % is pretty high... I'm even considering eating above maintenance to build muscle and then trying to lose the fat after. I really wish I'd have worked out the right calories for *me* when I first started here and not just tried to lose it as quickly as possible...
Sorry that was long, not little :laugh:
TLDR: Make sure you know the right number for you and your goals - 1200 helped me lose weight very quickly but that loss more than likely included LBM, not just fat. I'm near my goal weight now and still at a high body fat % :sad:0 -
Perhaps you should put on your glasses on. They are there.with so much time on your hands, You could also do a search and find lots and lots of success stories of people eating 1200 cals and losing heaps of weight.
Nope - suggest you try and find those success stories - including pictures showing their awesome results - sorry to burst your bubble - they do not exist!
Santa Claus had an awesome success thread, and the Easter Bunny looks totally hot in a bikini now. Both on 1200 cal diets.0 -
Being that I'm 5 feet nothing tall and down 32 pounds, why yes, I DO think it's a good idea!! Keep up the good work though, scout.
I'm 5'1" and currently losing on 1850 calories a day. This was supposed to be maintenance calories, turned out I underestimated and really that number is a slow cut.
Why eat 1200 cals/day or less when you can lose weight eating far more than that?0 -
Took me five months on 1200 calories to reach my goal of 120 lbs, down from 147 lbs. My maintenance calories - on the days I exercise - are just over 2000 per day. I average around 1700 a day and am still losing weight slowly. Need to up my calories gradually to remain static, but basically satisfied with the 1200 diet.0
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Yay you go taso!! :drinker:0
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Just wanted to add my little story to this :laugh:
I'm 26, 5'9.5 and pretty active and I started out on 1200 cals to lose... back then I actually remember searching the internet for "How to lose 20lbs in 30 days!" so of course I started off by saying I wanted to lose 2lbs/week!
I was absolutely starving for the first week or two, but then it got easier and I felt a lot more satisfied on that amount. I was dropping weight ridiculously fast: over 7lbs in the first week alone, and I only had around 40lbs to lose! I kept on losing around 1-2lbs a week so it was pretty addictive. I never hit the plateau and I think if I'd have carried on I'd have reached my goal scale weight a long time ago now...
BUT! After a couple of months of being on MFP and doing a lot of research I wondered if I was losing weight too fast? This may have been in my head but I noticed the skin between my thighs was becoming very 'loose' and wrinkly looking, and it made me wonder. When I thought about it too... since being on 1200cals I'd get home from work and need a couple of hours sleep (6 hours at a desk job), I'd start my workout on the elliptical machine and my legs would feel exhausted from the start and I was like a zombie 99% of the time.
So I upped my calories to 1650 and ate back any exercise cals, I didn't lose or gain for a couple of months but then the scale started to go down again... VERY slowly but I'm able to have awesome work outs, I've started lifting heavy and I don't feel tired all the time. My focus now has changed to losing body fat NOT just weight, as one of my goals is to look good in a bikini.
I worry though because I see other girls my height and weight or heavier, who look a lot firmer and slimmer than I do. I wonder if I lost a lot of LBM when I cut my calories so drastically and now even when I get to my goal weight I'm not going to be happy as my body fat % is pretty high... I'm even considering eating above maintenance to build muscle and then trying to lose the fat after. I really wish I'd have worked out the right calories for *me* when I first started here and not just tried to lose it as quickly as possible...
Sorry that was long, not little :laugh:
TLDR: Make sure you know the right number for you and your goals - 1200 helped me lose weight very quickly but that loss more than likely included LBM, not just fat. I'm near my goal weight now and still at a high body fat % :sad:
I wished more people would realise that they are losing LBMwhen dropping weight so quickly and on low cals. I rather weigh more, so I can eat more and look slim. Just did my first bulk and I would suggest to go for it.
Lifting when eating above TDEE is so much fun too. I am 5'7" at 155 lbs btw and I eat 2600 to maintain. So you can up your cals quite a bit I guess.0 -
When I first signed up here, it asked my weight height etc and asked my goal weight and how much I wanted to lose each week. It gave me a dropdown with several choices. One of them (1 lb a week) said "recommended" beside it.
But there was absolutely nothing beyond that, nothing like, "recommended because if you choose 2 lb a week with not much to lose, it's not going to work well and you're also likely to be hungry all the time, feel like crap and maybe even get weak and dizzy and not lose extra and may hit a plateau anyway and have nowhere to go from there."
IOW, it practically dares you to set your goal to 2 lbs a week, because who (without having done tons of research first, and what percentage of people have when they are first signing up for a site like this) is going to choose only 1 pound a week when you can "just as easily" choose 2?
The point being, I suspect the vast majority of these threads (and all the people who suffer the same fate but just give up and never post threads) wouldn't need to exist if the signup process had more of a warning about (a reason/explanation for) going against the recommended weekly goal.
That's very true, but you don't even need to changed the "recommended" weight loss. For me it "recommends" 1 pound a week weight loss which gives me 1200 calories a day. I don't need to reset it for 2 pounds a week to get the 1200.
Also, 1 pound a week SOUNDS very conservative. The advice used to be that a sensible and healthy rate of weight loss was 2 pounds a week. I started off aiming for 1 pound a week and thought I was doing the sensible thing, so I completely understand why people are eating at 1200 net. Dropping down to 1/2 a pound a week seems like being unnecessarily conservative. (Edit: I HAVE dropped down, but can understand why for many people it seems an odd thing to do. And I also have to accept that my weight loss is VERY slow!).0 -
Being that I'm 5 feet nothing tall and down 32 pounds, why yes, I DO think it's a good idea!! Keep up the good work though, scout.
Yep one size doesn't fit all!! For short people it is different. As long as it isn't an eating disorder please live and let live!!0 -
I wished more people would realise that they are losing LBMwhen dropping weight so quickly and on low cals. I rather weigh more, so I can eat more and look slim. Just did my first bulk and I would suggest to go for it.
Lifting when eating above TDEE is so much fun too. I am 5'7" at 155 lbs btw and I eat 2600 to maintain. So you can up your cals quite a bit I guess.
Wow I'd have a lot of fun eating that much food lol! I'm going to do it to be honest because I'm at the point now of not caring what the scale says, I'm more interested in how I feel and look!0 -
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that **** made me laugh my *kitten* off!!!!!!!!0 -
I wished more people would realise that they are losing LBMwhen dropping weight so quickly and on low cals. I rather weigh more, so I can eat more and look slim. Just did my first bulk and I would suggest to go for it.
Lifting when eating above TDEE is so much fun too. I am 5'7" at 155 lbs btw and I eat 2600 to maintain. So you can up your cals quite a bit I guess.
^^^^ this, so much this
I'm 5'1" and 1850 cals/day made me lose weight when I thought it was maintenance....0 -
I EAT 15,000 CAL A WEEK (OVER 2,000 A DAY AVERAGE) AND STILL LOSE CLOSE TO 1KG/2LB A WEEK. *kitten*!0 -
This is subjective, 1200 calories may work for some people but not for others. I am pretty sure genetics, gender, race, lifestyle (ie a brickie may use more calories during the day than an office worker) overall health etc would determine the calories needed for an individual persons weight loss.
My bf is white Australian male, 6"2 and very healthy and is naturally athletic. He can consume twice the amount of calories I could, and still loose weight (if he wanted to.)
I am 5"4 female Asian and obviously dont eat the same portion sizes as him, and therefore consume less calories.
Apologies for being captain obvious, but I am pretty sure this is just common sense. And if people are relying on a tool such as MFP to increase/accelerate weight loss, then perhaps more constructive advice for them would be to see a GP/nutrionist/personal trainer etc for specific advice and dont rely on internet forums.0 -
This thread is so long and I didn't manage to read it all, so I truly apologise if what I'm about to ask is covered somewhere herein.
WHAT?! I had no idea what TDEE was, so I googled it. I, naturally, did all my relevant calculations and got a TDEE of 2137. Now, does this mean to maintain I should be eating this? I've been restricting cal intake to 1680. This isn't considered too low, is it? How do you know how active you're considered? Is that not subjective? I'm seriously so confused with mind blown right now I'm not sure what I'm doing is going to continue to be effective. As a matter of fact, I've been very cross because my actual weight loss has stagnated. Now, I've been trying not to worry about numbers on a scale because mainly I just want to be less jiggly, but if the way I'm eating is counterproductive, I'd really like to sort it out. Also, I have no idea what macros are.
Again, very sorry if this is so newbie of me, but any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Claudia
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