Still think your 1200 or less diet is a good idea?
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As I stated before, when advice is asked for give it. Threads like this point fingers and say "You should do it this way" and that makes me and others want to point back and say "Who the *** are you to tell me what I should do?"
Who are you to tell me your way is better than the way my medical professional tells me? You don't know me or my body.
The emotion tied to my 1200 calories + cycle days has nothing to do with my 1200 calories, it has to do with the jerks who message me telling me I'm doing it wrong.
I don't look at people's diaries, nor do I have an open diary because I feel pretty strongly about not giving criticism on people's diaries and not soliciting it for my own. There are so many people with so many weird *kitten* food fetishes in this forum, be it eat more 2 lose weight, eating clean, eating raw, eating organic.... blah blah blah that I'd just rather ditch the whole lot of them!
But, honestly? I have lost a giant amount of weight and didn't do it on 1200 a day... but I'm also 5'6.5'' tall. So that would be a pretty low number for someone my height and activity level. But some days if I am feeling poorly, eating a little low won't hurt ya.
I'm also 5'6"... I suppose my activity level is also pretty high since I'm on my feet and constantly walking at least 9 hours a day, that would be how I lost the first 60 lbs or so without changing my diet. I'm just doing what my doctor has told me and I get asked why I would trust a doctor with my weightloss.,. really?!
Congrats on your weight loss, I'm glad your way worked for you
Thanks
I know that low calorie diets work for folks under doctor's care. Friend of mine has a hospital specialising in bariatric surgery as a client, and I see the success stories there. I suppose one factor in the lack of success stories on this site is that many folks (myself as one, for sure) don't have the money to go to a lot of doctors or lack insurance, so they are working on doing it themselves. It is shown in studies that people who log their diets have more weight loss success than people who do not. So keep logging and staying aware of what you eat
Regarding 1200 diets, when you add in my exercise calories, I am often netting 1200 or sometimes even less. I just don't pay attention to that because its dreadfully tricky to figure out what calories I am actually burning from my daily work + exercise workouts (and I only log the dedicated workouts, not the stuff I do at work). So yea, I only deal with total calories. I could get an HRM but I just don't have the finances yet to plurge out, saving every dime here for moving out in a few months.0 -
:laugh:THANKS! Now I'm definitely going to eat more. That's always worked GREAT for me in the past.
Please, 30 YO men, tell me again how much I should be eating!0 -
in all fairness though there are many factors to consider some of the people who do 1200 calories are a really petite height. some folks are elderly and don't require so much calories. some are reccomended to eat these calories for medical reasons. unless you really know their situation you really have no place to judge. the journey is about them. posts like these don't help matters. the best thing that will be helpful is to keep your comments to yourself.0
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I've been on 1200 calories a day since I started MFP in August and I lost the first 25 pounds very fast, that being said I have been stuck between 150-155 for a month and a half now WITH more exercise and better choices of food. I am positive I am eating too little and plan on going up to 1600- 1800 calories (slowly) even though the thought of eating MORE to lose weight scares the hell out of me.
I was here too...the 1200 calories a day diet (and honestly not knowing any better). I found the link to check out my BMR and TDEE last week, and gave it a try. I was scared to eat more and gain weight. Guess what? I ate at my TDEE minus 20%, and I lost weight this week, even cutting back on my exercise to once this week (I exercised 5 times last week, ate 1200 calories, and gained weight). You do the math. It's working!! I have to get over the feeling guilty for eating a lot. I also helped hubby set up his correct calorie count using BMR and TDEE, and he lost weight too. I'm amazed, and am going to pay attention. This stuff is awesome!!0 -
the first page is like a circle jerk of these people who like to preach. i hate preachers. you do you, and ill do me unless i ask for your help
eff your doctor! what does he know?!Keep in mind that some of us are eating under 1200 calories per day under the supervision of a doctor. I am and making very good progress.
these people have a degree in MFP, you better abandon whats working for you and let these people dictate what you eat!
LOL now this is funny
However I"m sure most of them mean well, I just think they need to give advice when it's asked for, not come out telling us we're all wrong for our own choices or for following the advice of medical professionals instead of them.
Personally, I have found these debates very informative. Why some people infer that those who advocate for EATMORE through posting threads like this or others are some how arrogant, 'preachy', is beyond me except that it demonstrates their own personal insecurities/issues. If you are a reasonable adult, you can read these threads and take from it what you wish and discard what you wish. The butthurt is so freaking childish.
It is simply information and 1st hand accounts of what worked for them. No one is forcing you to change but simply presenting options for you. You are under a doctor's care? Good for you. Is it working? Has it worked in the past? Can you maintain it in the future? AWESOME. You are short and 'yes' to all the above answers? Great.
I have been reading a ton of threads in two weeks on this debate. Time and again, the butthurt and insults are consistently coming from the 1200 crowd who are offended by the ideas presented. Get the eff over it and filter out the information as to what works best for you.0 -
It works great for me! Maintaining on 1200-1300 for 20 years now. Feel free to add my story to your scrap book.0
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There is a lot of hostility and angry words in this thread. I think that stems from people trying to apply a single principle to everyone. There are so VERY many variables when it comes to nutrition that you just can't do that. What works for one person may not work for others.
I know for a fact what works for me. I am 50 years old and know myself better than anyone.
That doesn't mean that what works for me will work for everyone else. To try to preach about what other people eat is ludicrous and unproductive. And actually sanctimonious.
word!!! :flowerforyou: :drinker:0 -
Yea, I got about one paragraph into that before you lost me.
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Your estimated BMR is: 1,281 calories/day*..... So if I want to lose 1 pound a week, I should eat 1200 calories a day-after exercise -- right?0 -
in all fairness though there are many factors to consider some of the people who do 1200 calories are a really petite height. some folks are elderly and don't require so much calories. some are reccomended to eat these calories for medical reasons. unless you really know their situation you really have no place to judge. the journey is about them. posts like these don't help matters. the best thing that will be helpful is to keep your comments to yourself.
Well stated. I am older, less active and have medical issues. I have consulted with my doctors. It is unfair to make generalizations. I wont compare myself to someone in their 20's. Hell, in my 20's , thirties and forties, yes even 50's I look awesome. Then I got sick, then it all changed. It can happen to anyone, so no putting people down. Unfair and based on your opinion.0 -
ok you seem to have an issue with the fact that some people don't want to gorge themselves. i notice your diary isn't open...any reason for that? just what exactly do you eat to get your target?
I'm not sure why you're confused that 1200 calories NET is enough to satisfy people. OK it doesn't satisfy you...but that's you, and I'm sorry I don't care what you put into your body and what you have found works for you.1200 90% of the time is fine for me. im a vegetarian so i eat lots of fruit and veg which keeps me satiated.
im sorry you have to eat lots to lose weight but care to get over the fact that it works for some people if you do it right? :flowerforyou: ttfn
Why are you sorry that other people get to eat lots of calories? I don't get it. I also don't get what's desirable about only eating 1200 calories a day "if I do it right", when I can eat 1850 calories a day. If I do what right? If I eat just right I'll be able to survive on 1200 cals/day without any bad health effects? Why would I want to when i don't have to?
Sorry, I'm confused.
1200 works for me because I eat good food and chose wisely. I'm still functioning, I'm still healthy. Now give me my special snowflake cookie.
why would anyone only eat (or net) 1200 cals a day when they could eat more and get the same (or even better) results? (which is true for the vast majority of people)
Why are you sorry that I'm not satisfied on 1200 cals/day? I'm not satisfied on 1500 cals/day, incidentally. Why do you see that as something you have to feel sorry for me about?
I don't have any issue with people not wanting to gorge themselves. I don't gorge myself, and if you think that 1850 calories a day is gorging myself, then that suggests to me you don't have a very healthy relationship with food.
My diary is open to friends. I don't use my diary to be accountable to other people, I don't need to be. I maintain my weight without tracking, and only track if I'm doing a bulk or a cut. I do that for me, so I know how much to eat to meet my goals. I'm currently cutting on 1850 cals/day. I may go to 100 cals lower than that, but that's my limit. I only open my diary to friends in case they want to get meal ideas.im feeling pity because it's insane that actually care this much about what other people are doing.
I don't' care particularly what anyone else is doing, I am, however, giving general advice that could benefit people and enable them to achieve their body composition goals without endangering their health in the process. What I find bizarre is how many people jump to defend their decision to eat only 1200 calories a day and perceive the advice that they could eat more and still lose as an attack rather than as being advice that could benefit them a lot. You can choose to take it or leave it, I don't really care either way, I'm just attempting to understand the mentality of choosing to restrict yourself so much when it's not necessary. So please explain to me, if someone has a choice, as in they can lose weight at 1200 cals a day, or they could lose weight at 1850 cals a day, why on earth would they want to choose to do it at 1200 cals a day?i'm 5'3" with not a lot to lose, how the hell are you going to tell me that forcing myself to eat crap is going to help me? the reason why i have to lose these 20lbs in the first place is because i didnt know portion control or ate chocolate instead of a piece of fruit. i make 1200 with ease because i eat right and im not hungry at the end of the day.
I'm 5'1" with not a lot to lose, I'm going from 22% body fat to 18-20%. That's not a lot of lbs of body fat. I'm shorter than you and I eat more than 500 cals a day more than you, and I'm still losing fat, I'm also getting stronger and my body fat percentage is going down.
Nowhere did I even come close to telling you to force yourself to eat crap. I'm merely trying to understand why you pity people like me who are eating 1850 cals a day or thereabouts and still managing to lose body fat. Why is it pitiable? Why is it better to be able to exist on 1200 calories a day when you can eat far more and still lose fat, and have a stronger body in the process? If you want actual advice, then yes I would advise running your numbers through a TDEE calculator, and as you have only a little left to lose, I'd advise TDEE - 10% as your deficit, and I'd advise you to lift heavy weights.
BTW the main health benefit to eating more, (since you asked how it would benefit you if you ate more) - this all the more important when you have only a little more to lose - is that it ensures you're only losing fat, and not lean body mass. Loss of lean body mass weakens your muscles and joints and makes your bones less dense, and increases the risk of osteoporosis. The less you have to lose, the more conservative your deficit needs to be in order to prevent this. Failing to pay attention to body composition, especially for the last few lbs, means that you may hit your weight goals, but your body fat percentage stays about the same, and you still have stubborn fat, because a lot of the weight you lost was lean tissue. Lifting heavy weights also helps a lot to conserve lean body mass. That's why there's no way I'm going to go lower than around 1750 cals, if I even go that low at all. There is no way I'm going to eat less than that, because I value the healthy tissue in my body, and want to keep it, and keep my metabolism fast. I want a fast metabolism, strong bones and strong muscles. That requires feeding my body with a sufficient amount of healthy food.
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Anyone over 60? Lets see you in a bikini? I looked hot in mine at 40.0
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in all fairness though there are many factors to consider some of the people who do 1200 calories are a really petite height. some folks are elderly and don't require so much calories. some are reccomended to eat these calories for medical reasons. unless you really know their situation you really have no place to judge. the journey is about them. posts like these don't help matters. the best thing that will be helpful is to keep your comments to yourself.
Well stated. I am older, less active and have medical issues. I have consulted with my doctors. It is unfair to make generalizations. I wont compare myself to someone in their 20's. Hell, in my 20's , thirties and forties, yes even 50's I look awesome. Then I got sick, then it all changed. It can happen to anyone, so no putting people down. Unfair and based on your opinion.
This is correct, there are a small number of people for whom, due to either being extremely petite or having certain medical issues, 1200 would be the right number of calories.
The problem that I and everyone else has, is that the vast majority of people who eat only 1200 calories a day, are not eating enough and could still lose fat and be more healthy and have a much easier time in the process eating more. The situation currently is that people with no medical issues are following advice presented as general advice, that actually was advice given to people with specific medical needs in a doctor supervised situation. It's pretty much the same as one person saying they're taking heroin to cure a headache, and someone else advising them that taking paracetamol would be much healthier, then the first person replying that their friend was prescribed heroin by their doctor when they were suffering from a serious, very painful medical condition, so it must be safe, and it's okay for them to take it just for a headache.
None of this advice is intended as an attack, it's simply concern for people's health. Those that read this information and choose to ignore it, it's their choice. But there are a lot of people out there who actually don't know this, and so it pays to get the information out there.0 -
I've done both eating under 1200 and significantly more than 1200, and lost weight both ways.
However, under 1200, weight loss was painfully slow... so much so that I thought there was something really wrong with me. And it was demoralizing. By the math, I should have been losing 2 pounds a week, and in reality, it was a half pound every other weak. I was tired, cranky, and by the time I got to my goal weight, I was still dissatisfied with my body. Still had muffin top, back fat, huge thighs, etc. More demoralization. It got to the point where I (mistakenly) believed that in order to get thinner, I'd have to cut my calories even MORE, and I just couldn't do it. I honestly decided I'd rather be overweight and eat what I want than skinny and hungry. So I put the weight back on.
Over 1200 (typically 1350-1700 plus exercise calories, or up to 2200+ total), the weight came off as predicted, I was completely satisfied with everything I ate. Still able to fit in pizza at least once a week. Cheeseburgers. Bagels for breakfast almost daily. Pasta, garlic bread, potatoes. Ice cream. Chocolate milk at bedtime every night. And way more than satisfied with the way my body looked and felt. The stereotypical "I'm 40 and in the best shape of my life" infomercial cheese.
And I've been maintaining close to two years.
Wow. I really needed to read this. I only joined MFP a couple weeks ago and have been following the 1200 debate closely. This past week, I just upped my calories from 1250 to 1495 but must admit, I still physchologically struggle with it. The other thing I was not clear on was whether the recommendation to increase your calories ALSO included eating back some or all of your exercise on top of the jumped up eating goal. So, it is nice to read your story and get things a little clearer. Thanks.
Really painfully slow? Humm my 182 lbs lost in 13 months is real slow. I'm loving it. And reality is I'm supposed to slow down now I'm on my last 80 lbs so I expect it to slow down. I'm sorry it was slow for you, but it's not for everyone if it's done the healthy way.0 -
I am not defending the 1200 way of life, in fact, I can't seem to always stick to it - however, I thought that it was what I was supposed to be doing since it is what MFP put me at.It is so frustrating when the 1200 calorie defenders seem to never have open diaries. I just want to see what their macros are like
. I appreciate that the petite 1200 calorie woman earlier in the thread did leave her diary open. That was refreshing to see.
If I work out, I try to eat protein before and after. I JUST started working out again so I am sure my calorie intake will go up once I change that info.
It just suc*ks because when I was eating more, I was STUCK for years at 150 and feeling like crap.
I think healthy eating, working out and higher, quality calories maybe are the trick.
My diary is open.. and I am open to advice.
Thanks to the original poster and all commenters that remind people that sometimes eating MORE is what a person needs to do. It seems counter-intuitive, but it really depends on what you eat as well. I started out eating between 1100-1250 calories, but I've been slowly increasing. It has really helped! I had switched to plant based diet (instead of a regular vegetarian). I was eating all the time, but only getting 1200 calories. I was avoiding nuts and oils because that's what you do when you're trying to lose weight, but those foods are important when everything I'm eating is waaaay low in calorie. My diary is open, and I too am open to feedback. I still don't eat anywhere close to -20% of my TDEE, but I am getting closer. I am hoping that by the time that I reach goal that maybe I will be close to TDEE...
I'm not sure how many of you are former Weight Watchers (or current!), but I was just curious how my current diet would stack up to theirs. The minimum daily points for any person currently is 26. On one of my standard days, I consumed 21. That doesn't even include activity points that I could have eating or the 'weekly points'. I eat a TON of fruits and veggies, which Weight Watchers doesn't even bother counting...
The good news for me is that I am almost at my Weight Watchers goal weight, so as a Lifetime member, I'll be able to go and enjoy meetings without paying! Yay! But I will continue to use MFP to log my food because I like it better.
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Here's how I look at it:
If 1200 is working for you, if it's easy for you... great! Keep at it!
But if you're one of the people who started those threads Taso linked to, if you're someone like me who was struggling on low calories, if you're tired, cold, grumpy, hungry, losing hair, losing sleep, etc. on 1200, if you blindly selected 2 pounds a week because you want this weight GONE as soon as possible... know there is another way.
Thanks! It's working and I'm happy doing it. If more posts were like this, and in threads soliciting advice then there wouldn't be a problem IMO.
Ditto. I have had 2 DXA scans done and have not lost any LBM but have been losing weight at a psychologically satisfying pace. I am rarely hungry I fill my day with healthy veggies and lean meats. I have done plenty of research and have posted many of the studies I have read on this website that show that my results are not unique but are expected (though since no one cares to read those, I never post them anymore). I talked to my doctor (who approved) about my plan before I started and have had my blood work checked regularly and everything has been fine. If it ever stops working as well as it has, of course I would re-evaluate. I think that more people would be receptive to advice if it were phrased like this.
I have been lifting heavy for the better part of the past 15 years, if someone thinks that I want to lose any of the muscle I have worked so hard to build and maintain, they are dead wrong. At the same time, just because some people on some websites say that will happen if you eat 1200 cal/day, does not make it true. [This comes from both personal experimentation and research.]
When posts like this are started that seem to be for the sole purpose of mocking those who are not doing what you are or assuming that they have not done any research. Those assumptions are absurd and insulting. I'll have my AS in Mathematics at the end of this semester and am a year away from getting my BS in Physics. I am not by any means dumb. I also make my decisions based on evidence (both in personal experimentation as well as scientific experimentation) and refuse to be bullied into eating more because for some people it doesn't work.
When I see posts asking for help working out the numbers for TDEE or asking specific questions regarding the TDEE method, I help people work out those numbers because I figure when people do what is best for them they will be more successful. (This is shown by research as well.) I'm not going to tell people that if they don't eat 1200 calories that they are doing it wrong. I can't understand the mindset of people who think that they should tell others how to eat. Offering options is fine, saying one option is the only way (when there is no research backing that) is ridiculous. For many people, I'm sure that eating more is preferable, for me it is not.
And for the person who mentioned the closed diaries, I got a ton of unsolicited messages about how I was starving myself and going to end up skinny fat and doing everything wrong when my diary was opened. Now it's set to private. No more rude messages.0 -
Anyone over 60? Lets see you in a bikini? I looked hot in mine at 40.
OK, that's just mean!0 -
Anyone over 60? Lets see you in a bikini? I looked hot in mine at 40.
This woman is 75.
(I've got 15 years before I get to 60, but I think she's awesome)
But...Shepherd said she eats several small meals a day as part of a diet plan she formulated with her trainers. She takes in 1,700 calories a day, mostly comprised of boiled egg whites, chicken, vegetables and a liquid egg white drink. And she is adamant that she does not use performance-enhancing drugs or even supplements beyond vitamin D.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/HealthyLiving/ernestine-shepherd-find-grandma-flab-fab/story?id=11149879
That's actually not a huge amount of calories considering how much she works out.0 -
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don't care about all the posts in this thread
taso, get ready for this:
you're so damn right. :drinker:0 -
It works great for me! Maintaining on 1200-1300 for 20 years now. Feel free to add my story to your scrap book.
You look great. And healthy. And I predict your offer to be added to the (biased) scrap book will be ignored.
I've seen plenty of posts by people who tried eating more on the advice of other MFPers. They gained weight.
I am over 40 under 5'4 completely sedentary and cannot work out regularly or hard for much of the year thanks to allergy induced asthma. If I eat over 1200 regularly I simply will not lose. Or I'll gain. I would invite one of these champions of the higher calorie diets over to check my plate and scale in order to prove to them the truth of what I say, but that would be creepy.0 -
I should add, to be completely fair, that I think a lot of younger people who are more active in their daily lives are making a big mistake by jumping straight onto 1200 as their total number for the day. But MFP never intended for them to do that. It is for sedentary people and that means it is not for people who work on their feet, students who cross campus with giant backpacks full of books, and those kids trampling across people's lawns. These hoodlums need to eat more than 1200 every day even if they don't make a conscious effort to work out. Now get off my lawn!0
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It works great for me! Maintaining on 1200-1300 for 20 years now. Feel free to add my story to your scrap book.
You look great. And healthy. And I predict your offer to be added to the (biased) scrap book will be ignored.
I've seen plenty of posts by people who tried eating more on the advice of other MFPers. They gained weight.
I am over 40 under 5'4 completely sedentary and cannot work out regularly or hard for much of the year thanks to allergy induced asthma. If I eat over 1200 regularly I simply will not lose. Or I'll gain. I would invite one of these champions of the higher calorie diets over to check my plate and scale in order to prove to them the truth of what I say, but that would be creepy.
you may want to look into this book: "Why Stomach Acid is Good For You" http://www.amazon.com/Why-Stomach-Acid-Good-You/dp/0871319314
Yeah... seems like a random thing to bring up right? Actually turns out, that you can actually significantly decrease allergies, if not eliminate them, by fixing your gut and digestive function. Almost all Americans and Europeans have less than stellar digestive processes due to years and years of eating badly and often taking antacids at the advice of doctors. But there's been a lot of research lately that shows that healthy digestive function can literally cure a ridiculous number of illnesses - even some that seem unrelated to gut function. Turns out, if you're not digesting your food properly, you aren't getting the nutrition you think you are, and it can cause all sorts of issues all over the body - including allergies. Now obviously some things are genetic, and if you've had them your whole life, that may not be related to this, but if not, and they developed later, it might be worth exploring.
Losing weight is great, but figuring out a way to get yourself more active will reap so many more benefits.
Just a suggestion, feel free to ignore. 0 -
I have a friend in real life who is almost 40, eats right at 1200 calories daily, along with running 9 miles a day and got to her goal and has maintained for a year with building muscle. It's not always black and white to me when I take her into account...
BUT with that said, I cannot eat that little without dying LOL. I'm trying to up my calories in order to better lose. I'm at 1500 now on non exercise days and eat back exercise but struggling to do it without junk. Would love to see someone's typical food day that eats a good amount of calories on ONLY healthy food and is losing weight steady. I've asked this in the past and been told to eat ice cream and cake and I'm NOT doing that.
I think this could be an informing thread for people but disagree in the way it was done (singling out people who have posted for help is not right in my opinion)0 -
Anyone over 60? Lets see you in a bikini? I looked hot in mine at 40.
This woman is 75.
(I've got 15 years before I get to 60, but I think she's awesome)
But...Shepherd said she eats several small meals a day as part of a diet plan she formulated with her trainers. She takes in 1,700 calories a day, mostly comprised of boiled egg whites, chicken, vegetables and a liquid egg white drink. And she is adamant that she does not use performance-enhancing drugs or even supplements beyond vitamin D.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/HealthyLiving/ernestine-shepherd-find-grandma-flab-fab/story?id=11149879
That's actually not a huge amount of calories considering how much she works out.
Shes one in a million. The average woman dosent look like that. It is like saying there should be no fat girls under 60.0 -
1200 worked just great for me :drinker:0
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It works great for me! Maintaining on 1200-1300 for 20 years now. Feel free to add my story to your scrap book.
You look great. And healthy. And I predict your offer to be added to the (biased) scrap book will be ignored.
I've seen plenty of posts by people who tried eating more on the advice of other MFPers. They gained weight.
I am over 40 under 5'4 completely sedentary and cannot work out regularly or hard for much of the year thanks to allergy induced asthma. If I eat over 1200 regularly I simply will not lose. Or I'll gain. I would invite one of these champions of the higher calorie diets over to check my plate and scale in order to prove to them the truth of what I say, but that would be creepy.
you may want to look into this book: "Why Stomach Acid is Good For You" http://www.amazon.com/Why-Stomach-Acid-Good-You/dp/0871319314
Yeah... seems like a random thing to bring up right? Actually turns out, that you can actually significantly decrease allergies, if not eliminate them, by fixing your gut and digestive function. Almost all Americans and Europeans have less than stellar digestive processes due to years and years of eating badly and often taking antacids at the advice of doctors. But there's been a lot of research lately that shows that healthy digestive function can literally cure a ridiculous number of illnesses - even some that seem unrelated to gut function. Turns out, if you're not digesting your food properly, you aren't getting the nutrition you think you are, and it can cause all sorts of issues all over the body - including allergies. Now obviously some things are genetic, and if you've had them your whole life, that may not be related to this, but if not, and they developed later, it might be worth exploring.
Losing weight is great, but figuring out a way to get yourself more active will reap so many more benefits.
Just a suggestion, feel free to ignore.
Thanks for the info, I'll check it out. I was pretty sad when I realized low carb didn't fix the issue, some people have gotten rid of or reduced their allergies that way, but not me, I'm still wheezing and sick.
Oh, and I have had them my whole life, but never like this. It's gotten much worse over the years.0 -
Anyone over 60? Lets see you in a bikini? I looked hot in mine at 40.
OK, that's just mean!
I'm 52 and I could care less about looking hot in a bikini, I just want to be able to play with my grand babies and be able to keep up with them.0 -
I can do 1200 for my breakfast.
I got told yesterday that only 900 calories for one meal is "ridiculous." The person didn't respond when I insinuated they must be on 1200ish. :laugh:0 -
Something that people tend to ignore in these threads is that most people are not very good at logging their calories. So when they say they are taking in 1200, it may be realistically a lot more. There is no way to know they are actually measuring it accurately, by using a food scale.
Controlled low calorie diets in hospitals work, where the calories are accurately measured, so people haven't defied the laws of thermodynamics here :P Something is up when someone isn't losing weight on a low calorie diet AND have a great deal of weight to lose.0 -
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