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Sugar is empty calories that will use up your calorie limit quicker than other more nutritious food choices you could have had - lie the oranges instead of the OJ, so - in effect - sugar increases your potential to increase weight.
In short - sugar makes you fat.
If you're eating so much sugar that it makes you go over your calories then that will make you gain weight. But that's the extra calories, not the sugar itself.
That's why people are saying to just make sure carbs are in check. Personally I hit protein first and that usually means fat is on target as well. Whatever's left can be carbs. And I do eat a fair amount of sugar.0 -
Have water instead of OJ - you miss out on the best parts of the orange and are just drinking the sugar water that's left. One glass of orange juice normally needs around 4 oranges to make, you wouldn't sit down and eat for oranges in one sitting on top of everything else -
At least when you eat the fruit you get the fiber and other nutrients that you miss out on when it's juiced.
PLUS sugar makes you fat -
Nope, it doesn't.
Excess calories make you fat.
Read this for a better understanding: www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-we-get-fat.html
Just because Gary Taubes said it, doesn't make it true.0 -
Sugar well fructose get's turned into fatty acids which then turns to fat in the body - why do you think the recommendation is 2 serves of fruit a day - sure there's good benefits of the fiber and other nutrients, but too much fructose will make you fat. Also sugar ups your insulin levels in the body which makes your body store fat. Fructose makes the brain leptin resistant, which means that the brain doesn’t “see” all the stored fat in the body and thinks that it is starving. This causes a powerful leptin-induced biochemical drive to keep eating even when we don’t need to.
Sugar doesn't make us fat? You've got to be kidding. A calorie is not a calorie -
Please read this
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
you are talking rubbish.0 -
Please stop vilifying sugar. It's delicious and I love it. We're best friends.0
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Please stop vilifying sugar. It's delicious and I love it. We're best friends.
Thank you!!0 -
oh well, never mind.0
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Totally agree with the fresh OJ instead of bottled - it tastes so much better too, in fact I bought oranges this morning to juice later on :drinker:0
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Skip the OJ and replace it with an orange and glass of water -- that would be my first step.
Another vote for this. The orange will give you fiber which helps you feel full longer, while the juice just gives you high blood sugar. (Which is the main reason to avoid sugar if you're trying to lose weight. High blood sugar tends to lead to very low blood sugar, which makes you feel hungry quickly.)0 -
Where I have concerned myself with sugar, it is the highly processed variety. I don't worry a ton about the naturally occurring sugars in fruits and such. I do try ti limit myself to 2 pieces of fruit a day but I get plenty of veggies, a yogurt, so I am getting lactose, frustose and such.0
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Sugar well fructose get's turned into fatty acids which then turns to fat in the body - why do you think the recommendation is 2 serves of fruit a day - sure there's good benefits of the fiber and other nutrients, but too much fructose will make you fat. Also sugar ups your insulin levels in the body which makes your body store fat. Fructose makes the brain leptin resistant, which means that the brain doesn’t “see” all the stored fat in the body and thinks that it is starving. This causes a powerful leptin-induced biochemical drive to keep eating even when we don’t need to.
Sugar doesn't make us fat? You've got to be kidding. A calorie is not a calorie -
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
Also, protein spikes insulin as well:
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=3190 -
Sugar well fructose get's turned into fatty acids which then turns to fat in the body - why do you think the recommendation is 2 serves of fruit a day - sure there's good benefits of the fiber and other nutrients, but too much fructose will make you fat. Also sugar ups your insulin levels in the body which makes your body store fat. Fructose makes the brain leptin resistant, which means that the brain doesn’t “see” all the stored fat in the body and thinks that it is starving. This causes a powerful leptin-induced biochemical drive to keep eating even when we don’t need to.
Sugar doesn't make us fat? You've got to be kidding. A calorie is not a calorie -
Please read this
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
you are talking rubbish.
Crud beat me to it while I was typing. :drinker:0 -
I love me some sugar!
OP, the only thing I would have done differently is eaten the orange instead of drinking the orange juice. But I'm not a fan of orange juice regardless.
OH and I would have eaten the whole egg. I AM a fan of the yolk.0 -
I would check the sugar in your orange juice - fruit drinks are often high in sugar.
Sugar is an issue because as we all know, it can cause diabetes not to mention the effect on tooth decay.
I think what everyone ends up doing is taking a close look at what you're getting out of your high sugar foods and thinking about whether it's worth it, and whether you can get those nutrients elsewhere.
My big weakness is milk - I drink tons of the stuff, but it clocks up the sugar count due to its lactose content. I choose to carry on though because I'm happy about the calcium and protein I get from it.0 -
Just had breakfast and I'm already 11g over my recommended sugar intake and I'm halfway there on sodium. Now I admit, 2 slices of regular pork bacon wasn't a good choice, but thankfully, that's the last of the pack. I'll be getting turkey bacon today.
Breakfast:
- 6 oz of OJ
- 2 slices of bacon
- 4 egg whites
- 1 pancake topped with a whole sliced banana, 25 blueberries, and a touch of honey
I know fruit contains sugar, but I thought I was doing well not to drown the pancake in syrup. I need some low sugar & low sodium options.
They have a 2,500 limit on Sodium. It stays the same. The only way I could hit it when eating 1800 Calories a day was to cut out most processed food. A lot of those microwave dinners have 900 or more Sodium. Fast food easily goes over 1200.0 -
As far as sodium is concerned, be careful with turkey bacon too. Some often have more sodium than regular bacon. I know there are lower sodium and lower fat pork bacon varieties out there, but I haven't seen low sodium turkey bacon. Check the labels first.
Just to compare, 2 slices of regular Gwaltney pork bacon has 70 calories, 6 grams of fat and 280mg sodium while 1 slice of Shady Brooks Farms turkey bacon has 35 calories, 3 grams of fat and 140mg sodium.0 -
This morning my breakfast consisted of
1/3 cup Egg Whites
1/4 cup Jimmy Dean Turkey Sausage scrambles
1/8 cup diced green peppers
1/8 cup diced onions
1 Slice Pepperidge Farms Whole Grain Oatmeal Bread
1 tsp butter
It's 609 mg of sodium and a carefully balanced diet the rest of the day, you can easily stay under 2500/mg a day.0 -
I asked our workplace nurse/nutritionist about this the other day. I usually eat 3 servings of fruit a day, and I'm always over my sugars 10-20 points. She looked at my food diary and said don't worry about it, and don't change anything.
When I was pregnant and had gestational diabetes, I ate the exact same way. My blood sugar level was always perfect.
So as long as your sugars are coming from fruits, and not processed food or desserts, you're fine.
I would ditch the OJ, though, as I'm not a fan of drinking my calories. (Unless the drink includes vodka.)0 -
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why is the mantra a calorie is just a calorie the mantra..........unless it comes to protein? sugars also have hormonal effects that can be part of the equation, from my understanding it is not quite so simple as a cal is a cal.. If so then why track macros at all. I was diagnosed diabetic 3 yrs ago been to half dozen docs and nutritionists the ONLY thing they agree on is stay away from added sugars regardless of the diabetes its all so confusing with all the experts having differing views. I realize calorie in calorie out simplicity when it comes to lbs lost, but I think we are talking about health more than lbs.0
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Don't worry folks, the people who think sugar is fine just don't understand it's impact in insulin production and how critical that is to weight loss. And before I get an eyebrow expression, I'm talking about refined processed sugar and carbs that people eat, not understanding how it works inside the body. The reason most people go over on sugar, is because we eat way too much of it without paying attention. Then, when it goes over everyday, people come to the idiotic conclusion, that they'll just ignore it. Lol. Um, yeah, that's awesome. And, makes perfect sense. You should all seriously take advice from people that just say, "I just ignore it" lol. Wow. Really?
OK I'm going to post this link for the last time
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
Protein also spikes insulin.
"Carbohydrates get a bad rap because of their effect on insulin, but protein stimulates insulin secretion as well. In fact, it can be just as potent of a stimulus for insulin as carbohydrate"
why is the mantra a calorie is just a calorie the mantra..........unless it comes to protein? sugars also have hormonal effects that can be part of the equation, from my understanding it is not quite so simple as a cal is a cal.. If so then why track macros at all. I was diagnosed diabetic 3 yrs ago been to half dozen docs and nutritionists the ONLY thing they agree on is stay away from added sugars regardless of the diabetes its all so confusing with all the experts having differing views. I realize calorie in calorie out simplicity when it comes to lbs lost, but I think we are talking about health more than lbs.
actually that applies to protein as well - most people agree that the macros you need to track are carbs / protein / fat and as long as you have a good balance that works for you all is good. You will keep good health if you have a nice balance ie I do 40/30/30, I don't worry about sugar just try to stay in my carbs goal. Yes eating less sugar that comes from cookies etc is not a bad idea but it since once it's in your body it gets processed the same its not the be all and end all.
And I'm out because the rugby is starting and I need to pour myself a pint of cider - mmmm sugar lovely alcoholic sugar :drinker:0 -
I am always over my sugar also --- but I try, at least at this point, not to worry about it. I would especially not worry too much with yours, as it seems like most of yours came from fruit, which is a relatively healthy way to get it (as opposed to eating candy or sugared cereal). So far, ingesting more sugar than I should hasn't stalled things for me.0
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Just had breakfast and I'm already 11g over my recommended sugar intake and I'm halfway there on sodium. Now I admit, 2 slices of regular pork bacon wasn't a good choice, but thankfully, that's the last of the pack. I'll be getting turkey bacon today.
Breakfast:
- 6 oz of OJ
- 2 slices of bacon
- 4 egg whites
- 1 pancake topped with a whole sliced banana, 25 blueberries, and a touch of honey
I know fruit contains sugar, but I thought I was doing well not to drown the pancake in syrup. I need some low sugar & low sodium options.
don't drink OJ. it's as bad as soda sugar-wise0 -
I have been advised that the addition of protein to a meal slows BS spikes, I realize it all ends up the same but nothing wrong with a stable BS. I think Im gonna go with what the docs and nutritionists are telling me, for the first time in a long time it seems to be working (fingers crossed) and for the record I am old enough to remember when FAT in your diet was the evil, makes we wonder?0
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Don't worry folks, the people who think sugar is fine just don't understand it's impact in insulin production and how critical that is to weight loss. And before I get an eyebrow expression, I'm talking about refined processed sugar and carbs that people eat, not understanding how it works inside the body. The reason most people go over on sugar, is because we eat way too much of it without paying attention. Then, when it goes over everyday, people come to the idiotic conclusion, that they'll just ignore it. Lol. Um, yeah, that's awesome. And, makes perfect sense. You should all seriously take advice from people that just say, "I just ignore it" lol. Wow. Really?
Assuming that you have no medical issues, you are under your calories, and that your calories are at a reasonable place to begin with, sugar will not make you fat.
I just ignore it. I've lost 17 lbs so far. But that's nothing. Several of my best friends here ignore it and have lost well over 100 lbs.
Yeah, definitely don't listen to them. People who have lost 100 lbs have no idea what's up. /sarcasm.0 -
Your body turns carbs into sugar, very quickly.. I suspect that if your combined total of sugar and carbs is within your goal, your body won't know the difference if you count some of your sugar as carbs.
Your diet will be easier if you eat an orange rather than drinking OJ. If you're going to give something up, keep the blueberries! They're good for manly health.0 -
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Hmm . . . I'm so scared of spiking my insulin this is now what ALL my meals are going to look like.
1 table spoon of butter
1 tablespoon of olive oil
1 table spoon of pure goose fat
1 table spoon of vegetable oil.
I don't want to spike my big scary insulin.0 -
Don't worry folks, the people who think sugar is fine just don't understand it's impact in insulin production and how critical that is to weight loss. And before I get an eyebrow expression, I'm talking about refined processed sugar and carbs that people eat, not understanding how it works inside the body. The reason most people go over on sugar, is because we eat way too much of it without paying attention. Then, when it goes over everyday, people come to the idiotic conclusion, that they'll just ignore it. Lol. Um, yeah, that's awesome. And, makes perfect sense. You should all seriously take advice from people that just say, "I just ignore it" lol. Wow. Really?
Assuming that you have no medical issues, you are under your calories, and that your calories are at a reasonable place to begin with, sugar will not make you fat.
I just ignore it. I've lost 17 lbs so far. But that's nothing. Several of my best friends here ignore it and have lost well over 100 lbs.
Yeah, definitely don't listen to them. People who have lost 100 lbs have no idea what's up. /sarcasm.
I didn't say it will make you fat. It will slow your progress.
You said people should not take advice from those who say to just ignore it.0
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