Diet Fads!!
halecheyenne12
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Okay, I've heard of people being on a vegan diet, a Paleo diet, and then the classic high-protein, low-carb diet. What diet is best?
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The best one is the one that YOU can stick with for life.
Something different works for everyone. Find the lifestyle you can stick with and rock on with it.0 -
Which ever one you can eat for the rest of your life. Don't think of it as a 'Diet' or it won't work.0
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See food. Eat food.0
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The best one is the one that YOU can stick with for life.
Something different works for everyone. Find the lifestyle you can stick with and rock on with it.
QFT.
If you'll fail trying to give up meat, vegan is not the choice for you. If you'll fail trying to give up pasta, Paleo is not the choice for you. Personally, I just try to do everything in moderation and make about 80% of my food choices healthy ones. It's something I can stick to and live with.0 -
The best one is the one that YOU can stick with for life.
Something different works for everyone. Find the lifestyle you can stick with and rock on with it.
Agreed. Weight loss shouldn't be temporary, so neither should your eating habits. Eat in a way that you can see yourself eating for the rest of your life
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Hey! I've heard the low fat high carb vegan diet is very good. Check out the videos of 'durianrider' on youtube its really interesting But I'm not really ready to make such a drastic change in my diet, so I start of slow by integrating more fruits and vegetables in my diet. I also recommend checking out 'Kimberly Snyder', she has a blog. Good luck finding what works for you. 0
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The best one is the one that YOU can stick with for life.
Something different works for everyone. Find the lifestyle you can stick with and rock on with it.
Agreed. Weight loss shouldn't be temporary, so neither should your eating habits. Eat in a way that you can see yourself eating for the rest of your life
Double Agree. I still eat everything I used to eat, just in much better moderation. If I were to cut something out entirely, I would eventually miss it, give up, and gorge myself on it.
One thing that I do view as temporary is my calorie deficit - I'm still eating at a 1,000 calorie deficit daily, and I look forward to the day when I'm at my goal weight, and can re-adjust to a higher calorie intake that will just sustain weight. But the changes I've made do need to be somewhat permanent - you can't ever go back 100% to the way you used to eat if you weren't happy with your weight under those conditions.0 -
The best one is the one that YOU can stick with for life.
Something different works for everyone. Find the lifestyle you can stick with and rock on with it.
Agreed. Weight loss shouldn't be temporary, so neither should your eating habits. Eat in a way that you can see yourself eating for the rest of your life
Double Agree. I still eat everything I used to eat, just in much better moderation. If I were to cut something out entirely, I would eventually miss it, give up, and gorge myself on it.
One thing that I do view as temporary is my calorie deficit - I'm still eating at a 1,000 calorie deficit daily, and I look forward to the day when I'm at my goal weight, and can re-adjust to a higher calorie intake that will just sustain weight. But the changes I've made do need to be somewhat permanent - you can't ever go back 100% to the way you used to eat if you weren't happy with your weight under those conditions.
Well looking at your ticker it looks like you are doing a wonderful job! I'm rooting for you to reach your goals!0 -
I'm a huge fan of the one where I can eat anything I want and as long as I'm in a calorie deficit, I lose weight. You know, sort of the default MFP setup. Pizza, McDonalds, ice cream and cookies seem to be working well for me.
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I'm a vegan, but I do not consider it a fad. I have been vegan for 12 years though, so maybe I am somehow missing out on the fad part.0
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Any sustainable diet that includes good nutrition.0
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I'm a huge fan of the one where I can eat anything I want and as long as I'm in a calorie deficit, I lose weight. You know, sort of the default MFP setup. Pizza, McDonalds, ice cream and cookies seem to be working well for me.
Highly recommend
and this is what's dangerous about MFP and IIFYM, because you left out the part where you should still be meeting your macro and micro nutritional goals with whole foods, and the junk should only be a small % of your overall intake.0 -
Your diet shouldn't be a fad, it should be a lifestyle. Remember a "diet" is just what you eat on a daily basis, not necessarily to gain/lose weight. Many people today incorrectly consider a "diet" to be synonymous with weight loss. They say "I'm going on a diet to lose weight". They have always been on a "diet", it's just now they are changing the contents of that "diet" to attain certain goals.0
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Any sustainable diet that includes good nutrition.
haha we're almost always on the same page when we keep things vague. lol
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Any sustainable diet that includes good nutrition.
haha we're almost always on the same page when we keep things vague. lol
we'll probably be friends within the next 3 months0 -
Tapeworm + Liver Cleanse + Fast 23 hours a day & eat whatever you want for one hour = GOLD0
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As others have stated...whatever is going to be sustainable for you long term.0
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Tapeworm + Liver Cleanse + Fast 23 hours a day & eat whatever you want for one hour = GOLD
Ah! I knew I was doing something wrong!0 -
The best one is the one that YOU can stick with for life.
Something different works for everyone. Find the lifestyle you can stick with and rock on with it.
This!
From a health perspective, you need lots of veggies. As long as you have healthy kidneys, you also need lots of protein. Everything else is negotiable.0 -
The best one is the one that YOU can stick with for life.
Something different works for everyone. Find the lifestyle you can stick with and rock on with it.
This!
From a health perspective, you need lots of veggies. As long as you have healthy kidneys, you also need lots of protein. Everything else is negotiable.
that's actually arguable, so... as to avoid the argument, lets say "do your own research and find something you think you can stick to indefinitely that will keep you happy and healthy" 0 -
Any sustainable diet that includes good nutrition.
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I'm a huge fan of the one where I can eat anything I want and as long as I'm in a calorie deficit, I lose weight. You know, sort of the default MFP setup. Pizza, McDonalds, ice cream and cookies seem to be working well for me.
Highly recommend
and this is what's dangerous about MFP and IIFYM, because you left out the part where you should still be meeting your macro and micro nutritional goals with whole foods, and the junk should only be a small % of your overall intake.
I didn't leave out that part. That part doesn't exist. You'll find that if you eat the things you like and fall within your calorie guidelines, most of your macros and micros will be taken care of. And anything that isn't only requires a minute adjustment. I guess if we built a straw man that ate nothing but candy bars we'd have a problem, but no one does IIFYM that way.0 -
I'm a huge fan of the one where I can eat anything I want and as long as I'm in a calorie deficit, I lose weight. You know, sort of the default MFP setup. Pizza, McDonalds, ice cream and cookies seem to be working well for me.
Highly recommend
and this is what's dangerous about MFP and IIFYM, because you left out the part where you should still be meeting your macro and micro nutritional goals with whole foods, and the junk should only be a small % of your overall intake.
I didn't leave out that part. That part doesn't exist. You'll find that if you eat the things you like and fall within your calorie guidelines, most of your macros and micros will be taken care of. And anything that isn't only requires a minute adjustment. I guess if we built a straw man that ate nothing but candy bars we'd have a problem, but no one does IIFYM that way.
i guess you and sarauk don't agree on IIFYM then...... she told me that the majority of IIFYM is eating nutritious whole foods0 -
I'm a huge fan of the one where I can eat anything I want and as long as I'm in a calorie deficit, I lose weight. You know, sort of the default MFP setup. Pizza, McDonalds, ice cream and cookies seem to be working well for me.
Highly recommend
and this is what's dangerous about MFP and IIFYM, because you left out the part where you should still be meeting your macro and micro nutritional goals with whole foods, and the junk should only be a small % of your overall intake.
I didn't leave out that part. That part doesn't exist. You'll find that if you eat the things you like and fall within your calorie guidelines, most of your macros and micros will be taken care of. And anything that isn't only requires a minute adjustment. I guess if we built a straw man that ate nothing but candy bars we'd have a problem, but no one does IIFYM that way.
i guess you and sarauk don't agree on IIFYM then...... she told me that the majority of IIFYM is eating nutritious whole foods
Sara adheres to a vegetarian diet on lower calories. i believe she may have to pay more attention to her dietary choices than DavPul does and that's why she may have given a slightly different answer to you. of course, she can answer for herself when she sees this thread. my TDEE varies from 2700-3600 depending on exercise. although i am losing weight, that gives me enough room to eat anything i want and my macros do pretty much take care of themselves. if anything, i probably only need to tweak protein upwards. i can still eat at a deficit this way. so long as i get enough fat and protein, i'm fine.
if you weren't so obsessed with labeling foods as either "healthy" or "unhealthy", you might actually see the wisdom in what DavPul said.0 -
I'm a huge fan of the one where I can eat anything I want and as long as I'm in a calorie deficit, I lose weight. You know, sort of the default MFP setup. Pizza, McDonalds, ice cream and cookies seem to be working well for me.
Highly recommend
and this is what's dangerous about MFP and IIFYM, because you left out the part where you should still be meeting your macro and micro nutritional goals with whole foods, and the junk should only be a small % of your overall intake.
I didn't leave out that part. That part doesn't exist. You'll find that if you eat the things you like and fall within your calorie guidelines, most of your macros and micros will be taken care of. And anything that isn't only requires a minute adjustment. I guess if we built a straw man that ate nothing but candy bars we'd have a problem, but no one does IIFYM that way.
i guess you and sarauk don't agree on IIFYM then...... she told me that the majority of IIFYM is eating nutritious whole foods
Sara adheres to a vegetarian diet on lower calories. i believe she may have to pay more attention to her dietary choices than DavPul does and that's why she may have given a slightly different answer to you. of course, she can answer for herself when she sees this thread. my TDEE varies from 2700-3600 depending on exercise. although i am losing weight, that gives me enough room to eat anything i want and my macros do pretty much take care of themselves. if anything, i probably only need to tweak protein upwards. i can still eat at a deficit this way. so long as i get enough fat and protein, i'm fine.
if you weren't so obsessed with labeling foods as either "healthy" or "unhealthy", you might actually see the wisdom in what DavPul said.
and if you would open your mind a bit, you'd realize that there are some foods that have less nutritional benefit than others. It's ok to eat them in moderation, but that doesn't change that they're not as healthy a choice. That's not always a bad thing, but it's reality.0 -
I'm a huge fan of the one where I can eat anything I want and as long as I'm in a calorie deficit, I lose weight. You know, sort of the default MFP setup. Pizza, McDonalds, ice cream and cookies seem to be working well for me.
Highly recommend
and this is what's dangerous about MFP and IIFYM, because you left out the part where you should still be meeting your macro and micro nutritional goals with whole foods, and the junk should only be a small % of your overall intake.
I didn't leave out that part. That part doesn't exist. You'll find that if you eat the things you like and fall within your calorie guidelines, most of your macros and micros will be taken care of. And anything that isn't only requires a minute adjustment. I guess if we built a straw man that ate nothing but candy bars we'd have a problem, but no one does IIFYM that way.
i guess you and sarauk don't agree on IIFYM then...... she told me that the majority of IIFYM is eating nutritious whole foods
Sara adheres to a vegetarian diet on lower calories. i believe she may have to pay more attention to her dietary choices than DavPul does and that's why she may have given a slightly different answer to you. of course, she can answer for herself when she sees this thread. my TDEE varies from 2700-3600 depending on exercise. although i am losing weight, that gives me enough room to eat anything i want and my macros do pretty much take care of themselves. if anything, i probably only need to tweak protein upwards. i can still eat at a deficit this way. so long as i get enough fat and protein, i'm fine.
if you weren't so obsessed with labeling foods as either "healthy" or "unhealthy", you might actually see the wisdom in what DavPul said.
and if you would open your mind a bit, you'd realize that there are some foods that have less nutritional benefit than others. It's ok to eat them in moderation, but that doesn't change that they're not as healthy a choice. That's not always a bad thing, but it's reality.
it's your hangup on the idea that "healthy" actually has any sort of actual meaning that i find annoying. it's one of those words that means whatever the user wants it to mean.
i think clean eating is unhealthy. both mentally and physically. can you convince me otherwise?
do you see the problem? my definitions may not be your definitions and neither of us may have the same definition as a 3rd person. so the use of these nebulous terms derails all of your arguments because neither you or the other person start at a point of common reference. so instead of insisting on the inherent obviousness of what you perceive to be correct, why not start someplace where both people agree and then proceed from there.
is pop tarts and ice cream a nutritious diet all by itself? no, probably not. can pop tarts and ice cream be a part of a nutritious diet? yes, absolutely. but are pop tarts and ice cream unhealthy? to me, no. because i see food as a collection of their parts. so long as all of the parts of all of the foods you eat add up to be what you need to live a long and healthy life, i see nothing wrong with any food. are there foods that have been contaminated with poisonous substances? sure, that's possible. eggs contaminated with salmonella are unhealthy because they can make you sick. but are some foods unhealthy just because some nutter on some clean-eating website has decided that one of their components is bad for you and the FDA is in cahoots with big business to feed it to you anyway? well, that's where i'll leave you to wear your tinfoil hat all by yourself.0 -
I'm a huge fan of the one where I can eat anything I want and as long as I'm in a calorie deficit, I lose weight. You know, sort of the default MFP setup. Pizza, McDonalds, ice cream and cookies seem to be working well for me.
Highly recommend
and this is what's dangerous about MFP and IIFYM, because you left out the part where you should still be meeting your macro and micro nutritional goals with whole foods, and the junk should only be a small % of your overall intake.
I didn't leave out that part. That part doesn't exist. You'll find that if you eat the things you like and fall within your calorie guidelines, most of your macros and micros will be taken care of. And anything that isn't only requires a minute adjustment. I guess if we built a straw man that ate nothing but candy bars we'd have a problem, but no one does IIFYM that way.
i guess you and sarauk don't agree on IIFYM then...... she told me that the majority of IIFYM is eating nutritious whole foods
Sara adheres to a vegetarian diet on lower calories. i believe she may have to pay more attention to her dietary choices than DavPul does and that's why she may have given a slightly different answer to you. of course, she can answer for herself when she sees this thread. my TDEE varies from 2700-3600 depending on exercise. although i am losing weight, that gives me enough room to eat anything i want and my macros do pretty much take care of themselves. if anything, i probably only need to tweak protein upwards. i can still eat at a deficit this way. so long as i get enough fat and protein, i'm fine.
if you weren't so obsessed with labeling foods as either "healthy" or "unhealthy", you might actually see the wisdom in what DavPul said.
and if you would open your mind a bit, you'd realize that there are some foods that have less nutritional benefit than others. It's ok to eat them in moderation, but that doesn't change that they're not as healthy a choice. That's not always a bad thing, but it's reality.
it's your hangup on the idea that "healthy" actually has any sort of actual meaning that i find annoying. it's one of those words that means whatever the user wants it to mean.
i think clean eating is unhealthy. both mentally and physically. can you convince me otherwise?
do you see the problem? my definitions may not be your definitions and neither of us may have the same definition as a 3rd person. so the use of these nebulous terms derails all of your arguments because neither you or the other person start at a point of common reference. so instead of insisting on the inherent obviousness of what you perceive to be correct, why not start someplace where both people agree and then proceed from there.
is pop tarts and ice cream a nutritious diet all by itself? no, probably not. can pop tarts and ice cream be a part of a nutritious diet? yes, absolutely. but are pop tarts and ice cream unhealthy? to me, no. because i see food as a collection of their parts. so long as all of the parts of all of the foods you eat add up to be what you need to live a long and healthy life, i see nothing wrong with any food. are there foods that have been contaminated with poisonous substances? sure, that's possible. eggs contaminated with salmonella are unhealthy because they can make you sick. but are some foods unhealthy just because some nutter on some clean-eating website has decided that one of their components is bad for you and the FDA is in cahoots with big business to feed it to you anyway? well, that's where i'll leave you to wear your tinfoil hat all by yourself.
we disagree on a couple points, but not the majority of what you said.
1) clean eating doesn't HAVE to be unhealthy mentally or physically, as the things that make one person happy may not be the same things that make you happy. per your own argument you should agree with that.
2) you look at food as a collection of their parts, or as a whole diet - i look at foods as individual parts, and I'll give you a metaphor to explain why.
In sports, or in finance or what have you, tiny, almost unnoticeable changes can reap huge benefits over time correct? an extra couple swings in the batting cage, an extra penny put in a savings account can - over time - make a HUGE difference. It's called the "compound effect". I BELIEVE (not fact, opinion) that the compound effect also works with food, and I think that minor tweaks in a diet can have significant effects over a lifetime, even if they don't make a difference today, tomorrow, next week or next year.
is that any less valid of an opinion than yours? I don't think so... and it doesn't make me orthorexic to feel that way. I don't think about food all the time and my life doesn't revolve around food, and i don't freak out when I eat something bad (like my chicken and waffles yesterday). But the MORE OFTEN I eat well, the more likely I am to be healthier, avoid disease, and live longer. No it's not an exact science, but if we're playing the odds, I'd rather play them this way.0 -
The Mediterranean Diet.0
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bump because I'm interested in sarauk's input...0
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I'm a huge fan of the one where I can eat anything I want and as long as I'm in a calorie deficit, I lose weight. You know, sort of the default MFP setup. Pizza, McDonalds, ice cream and cookies seem to be working well for me.
Highly recommend
and this is what's dangerous about MFP and IIFYM, because you left out the part where you should still be meeting your macro and micro nutritional goals with whole foods, and the junk should only be a small % of your overall intake.
I didn't leave out that part. That part doesn't exist. You'll find that if you eat the things you like and fall within your calorie guidelines, most of your macros and micros will be taken care of. And anything that isn't only requires a minute adjustment. I guess if we built a straw man that ate nothing but candy bars we'd have a problem, but no one does IIFYM that way.
i guess you and sarauk don't agree on IIFYM then...... she told me that the majority of IIFYM is eating nutritious whole foods
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