whats the beef on well...beef...
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Pink slime!
Was a ridiculous notion. And lots of people got sued over it. Plus it killed the economy where I live.
I love a good steak.. Mmmmmm med rare (:0 -
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Why do people get so wound up about people that don't eat meat? Guilty conscience? Scared of people different than you? I'd really like to know. I don't think anyone has ever explained why they believe people that don't eat meat are wrong, unhealthy, stupid, ect...
the counter to this is why do people who do not eat meat get so wound up about people who do? See previous posts in the thread...If I you do not want to eat meat I do not care, yet it somehow bothers others that I like to eat meat and am somehow "mean" to animals....
Actually it does bother you. You can say you don't care all you want but your actions show otherwise. If you really didn't care you wouldn't have made your little comments on that girls cow photo. No point in lying.0 -
Right now I'm daydreaming about a blue cheese burger on a kiaser roll will green leaf lettuce, purple onion and a little chiptole BBQ sauce........mmmmmmmmm!0
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Why do people get so wound up about people that don't eat meat? Guilty conscience? Scared of people different than you? I'd really like to know. I don't think anyone has ever explained why they believe people that don't eat meat are wrong, unhealthy, stupid, ect...
the counter to this is why do people who do not eat meat get so wound up about people who do? See previous posts in the thread...If I you do not want to eat meat I do not care, yet it somehow bothers others that I like to eat meat and am somehow "mean" to animals....
Actually it does bother you. You can say you don't care all you want but your actions show otherwise. If you really didn't care you wouldn't have made your little comments on that girls cow photo. No point in lying.
Hmmm who is it bothering more...the people who actually eat meat and chimed in on my original post as to the health or non health benfits or meat....or the people who don't even eat meat but felt the need to chime in with ...animals are our friends, and we should treat them like that...or the whole "world hunger is effected by meat eaters..' LOL0 -
Why do people get so wound up about people that don't eat meat? Guilty conscience? Scared of people different than you? I'd really like to know. I don't think anyone has ever explained why they believe people that don't eat meat are wrong, unhealthy, stupid, ect...
the counter to this is why do people who do not eat meat get so wound up about people who do? See previous posts in the thread...If I you do not want to eat meat I do not care, yet it somehow bothers others that I like to eat meat and am somehow "mean" to animals....
Actually it does bother you. You can say you don't care all you want but your actions show otherwise. If you really didn't care you wouldn't have made your little comments on that girls cow photo. No point in lying.
Hmmm who is it bothering more...the people who actually eat meat and chimed in on my original post as to the health or non health benfits or meat....or the people who don't even eat meat but felt the need to chime in with ...animals are our friends, and we should treat them like that...or the whole "world hunger is effected by meat eaters..' LOL
Obviously you are the most bothered, just unwilling to accept it. But that's fine. You are free to make posts and ask for opinions and make fun of them or try and counter them for whatever reason, its what makes mfp go 'round.0 -
Why do people get so wound up about people that don't eat meat? Guilty conscience? Scared of people different than you? I'd really like to know. I don't think anyone has ever explained why they believe people that don't eat meat are wrong, unhealthy, stupid, ect...
the counter to this is why do people who do not eat meat get so wound up about people who do? See previous posts in the thread...If I you do not want to eat meat I do not care, yet it somehow bothers others that I like to eat meat and am somehow "mean" to animals....
Actually it does bother you. You can say you don't care all you want but your actions show otherwise. If you really didn't care you wouldn't have made your little comments on that girls cow photo. No point in lying.
Hmmm who is it bothering more...the people who actually eat meat and chimed in on my original post as to the health or non health benfits or meat....or the people who don't even eat meat but felt the need to chime in with ...animals are our friends, and we should treat them like that...or the whole "world hunger is effected by meat eaters..' LOL
Obviously you are the most bothered, just unwilling to accept it. But that's fine. You are free to make posts and ask for opinions and make fun of them or try and counter them for whatever reason, its what makes mfp go 'round.
Weren't you the person who posted a thread on vegetarianism last week asking why people are critical of it and asked meat eaters not to jump in in a critical way? Please take your own advice and stop derailing this thread.0 -
I smell a troll.0
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It's great for you. It has an amazing amino acid profile, micronutrient profile (zinc, B12, iron, selenium, riboflavin, phosphorous), and has all kinds of positive effects on male hormone production.
Absolutely, as long as it finds its balance in your week with other other meats and foods. Too much red meat can be bad for your heart and vascular system in general. Other than that . . . I love red meat. i'm about to eat some right now.
BEEF is one of my main sources of protein!!!! Its good for you and much better in my opinion than that processed garbage of Protein powders and such!!!!!!!
ENJOY the testosterone!!!!!!!:devil:0 -
Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
This may be the mot ridiculous line I've ever read on MFP.0 -
Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
This may be the mot ridiculous line I've ever read on MFP.
i concur0 -
Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
This may be the mot ridiculous line I've ever read on MFP.
I guess I should specify, I was referring to the "moral dilemmas" that were being discussed prior to that post. I suppose one could find a moral reason to be against eating meat, but this was referring to the notion that cows need some special sort of treatment or that the method of killing them is always inhumane. And prior to making this statement I explained why I believe those are invalid reasons to disagree with eating meat.0 -
Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
This may be the mot ridiculous line I've ever read on MFP.
I guess I should specify, I was referring to the "moral dilemmas" that were being discussed prior to that post. I suppose one could find a moral reason to be against eating meat, but this was referring to the notion that cows need some special sort of treatment or that the method of killing them is always inhumane. And prior to making this statement I explained why I believe those are invalid reasons to disagree with eating meat.
Poo-pooing morals that don't mesh with yours doesn't really make the statement any less ridiculous IMO.0 -
Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
This may be the mot ridiculous line I've ever read on MFP.
I guess I should specify, I was referring to the "moral dilemmas" that were being discussed prior to that post. I suppose one could find a moral reason to be against eating meat, but this was referring to the notion that cows need some special sort of treatment or that the method of killing them is always inhumane. And prior to making this statement I explained why I believe those are invalid reasons to disagree with eating meat.
Poo-pooing morals that don't mesh with yours doesn't really make the statement any less ridiculous IMO.
I wasn't just "poo-pooing" them. I gave arguments for why I thought they were invalid. If you disagree, please provide a different perspective. That's how discussion works.0 -
Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
This may be the mot ridiculous line I've ever read on MFP.
I guess I should specify, I was referring to the "moral dilemmas" that were being discussed prior to that post. I suppose one could find a moral reason to be against eating meat, but this was referring to the notion that cows need some special sort of treatment or that the method of killing them is always inhumane. And prior to making this statement I explained why I believe those are invalid reasons to disagree with eating meat.
Poo-pooing morals that don't mesh with yours doesn't really make the statement any less ridiculous IMO.
I wasn't just "poo-pooing" them. I gave arguments for why I thought they were invalid. If you disagree, please provide a different perspective. That's how discussion works.
I didn't see an argument against why choosing not to eat meat based on one's morals is bad. I just saw a statement as such.0 -
Here is my original post in this thread -- I was arguing against specific reasons people make the choice. So, yeah, if you disagree with any of these feel free to elaborate, but this is what I was referring to
-- Cows are meant to be eaten. We can argue about domestic cows vs. their wild ancestors, but the fact of the matter is that cows, bison, cattle, buffalo, any cow variation you can think of is a meat source for some species. If not people, then wolves or some other carnivorous animal.
-- The whole "Cows are people too" sort of sentiment is sort of silly. As mentioned previously, they are pretty much meant to be eaten. And while there are some places that mistreat their stock, most cows get to live a life of luxury by animal standards and then die a quick, painless death for food. This, as opposed to a hard life in the wild and being devoured alive by some predator.
-- My father in law raises cows, and we get tons of high quality beef with no hormones and high flavor. And while not everyone has that luxury, it isn't too terribly hard in most places to find local meat markets where you can find out the living conditions and breeding conditions of the cows used.0 -
Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
This may be the mot ridiculous line I've ever read on MFP.
I guess I should specify, I was referring to the "moral dilemmas" that were being discussed prior to that post. I suppose one could find a moral reason to be against eating meat, but this was referring to the notion that cows need some special sort of treatment or that the method of killing them is always inhumane. And prior to making this statement I explained why I believe those are invalid reasons to disagree with eating meat.
Poo-pooing morals that don't mesh with yours doesn't really make the statement any less ridiculous IMO.
I wasn't just "poo-pooing" them. I gave arguments for why I thought they were invalid. If you disagree, please provide a different perspective. That's how discussion works.
It's not for you to decide whether another's morals are right or wrong. You are not a god.0 -
Much ado about nothing.0
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Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
This may be the mot ridiculous line I've ever read on MFP.
I guess I should specify, I was referring to the "moral dilemmas" that were being discussed prior to that post. I suppose one could find a moral reason to be against eating meat, but this was referring to the notion that cows need some special sort of treatment or that the method of killing them is always inhumane. And prior to making this statement I explained why I believe those are invalid reasons to disagree with eating meat.
Poo-pooing morals that don't mesh with yours doesn't really make the statement any less ridiculous IMO.
I wasn't just "poo-pooing" them. I gave arguments for why I thought they were invalid. If you disagree, please provide a different perspective. That's how discussion works.
It's not for you to decide whether another's morals are right or wrong. You are not a god.
Wow. OK, I won't be responding to any of your posts any longer, except to say this: I'm not saying that they are absolutely wrong. I gave arguments for why I believe they are wrong. If you disagree, just tell me why you disagree. No need to toss around silly comments that don't build off the discussion.0 -
Beef is ok for regular people in moderation, but not for me. I don't even really like it - and I dislike hamburger. I have a digestive disorder that makes eating beef and pork not very fun. It makes me a little sick, and it causes inflammation, so I don't eat it and I don't miss it. I eat birds and fish instead. I think most people who do eat meat probably eat more than is healthy. But that's not my business. Eat beef if you want to.0
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So, in conclusion...
Good reasons to avoid red meat: Doctor's orders, personal taste, budget restrictions.
Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
Good reasons to avoid red meat: Doctor's orders, personal taste, budget restrictions, moral reasons...
Bad reasons to avoid red meat: None. You may choose to avoid red meat for any reason.
Avoid it if you want. Eat it if you want. End of story.0 -
Here is my original post in this thread -- I was arguing against specific reasons people make the choice. So, yeah, if you disagree with any of these feel free to elaborate, but this is what I was referring to
-- Cows are meant to be eaten. We can argue about domestic cows vs. their wild ancestors, but the fact of the matter is that cows, bison, cattle, buffalo, any cow variation you can think of is a meat source for some species. If not people, then wolves or some other carnivorous animal.
-- The whole "Cows are people too" sort of sentiment is sort of silly. As mentioned previously, they are pretty much meant to be eaten. And while there are some places that mistreat their stock, most cows get to live a life of luxury by animal standards and then die a quick, painless death for food. This, as opposed to a hard life in the wild and being devoured alive by some predator.
-- My father in law raises cows, and we get tons of high quality beef with no hormones and high flavor. And while not everyone has that luxury, it isn't too terribly hard in most places to find local meat markets where you can find out the living conditions and breeding conditions of the cows used.
I don't believe they are meant to be eaten by people. But I'm not going to tell you not to just as you shouldn't tell people that choosing not to eat for moral reasons is a bad reason not to.
Also cows have hormones, as they are animals.0 -
Plants have hormones as they are plants.Here is my original post in this thread -- I was arguing against specific reasons people make the choice. So, yeah, if you disagree with any of these feel free to elaborate, but this is what I was referring to
-- Cows are meant to be eaten. We can argue about domestic cows vs. their wild ancestors, but the fact of the matter is that cows, bison, cattle, buffalo, any cow variation you can think of is a meat source for some species. If not people, then wolves or some other carnivorous animal.
-- The whole "Cows are people too" sort of sentiment is sort of silly. As mentioned previously, they are pretty much meant to be eaten. And while there are some places that mistreat their stock, most cows get to live a life of luxury by animal standards and then die a quick, painless death for food. This, as opposed to a hard life in the wild and being devoured alive by some predator.
-- My father in law raises cows, and we get tons of high quality beef with no hormones and high flavor. And while not everyone has that luxury, it isn't too terribly hard in most places to find local meat markets where you can find out the living conditions and breeding conditions of the cows used.
I don't believe they are meant to be eaten by people. But I'm not going to tell you not to just as you shouldn't tell people that choosing not to eat for moral reasons is a bad reason not to.
Also cows have hormones, as they are animals.
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Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
This may be the mot ridiculous line I've ever read on MFP.
I guess I should specify, I was referring to the "moral dilemmas" that were being discussed prior to that post. I suppose one could find a moral reason to be against eating meat, but this was referring to the notion that cows need some special sort of treatment or that the method of killing them is always inhumane. And prior to making this statement I explained why I believe those are invalid reasons to disagree with eating meat.
Poo-pooing morals that don't mesh with yours doesn't really make the statement any less ridiculous IMO.
I wasn't just "poo-pooing" them. I gave arguments for why I thought they were invalid. If you disagree, please provide a different perspective. That's how discussion works.
It's not for you to decide whether another's morals are right or wrong. You are not a god.
Wow. OK, I won't be responding to any of your posts any longer, except to say this: I'm not saying that they are absolutely wrong. I gave arguments for why I believe they are wrong. If you disagree, just tell me why you disagree. No need to toss around silly comments that don't build off the discussion.
Why would anyone want to discuss why the morals of others are bad???0 -
Bad reasons to avoid red meat: Moral reasons.
This may be the mot ridiculous line I've ever read on MFP.
I guess I should specify, I was referring to the "moral dilemmas" that were being discussed prior to that post. I suppose one could find a moral reason to be against eating meat, but this was referring to the notion that cows need some special sort of treatment or that the method of killing them is always inhumane. And prior to making this statement I explained why I believe those are invalid reasons to disagree with eating meat.
Poo-pooing morals that don't mesh with yours doesn't really make the statement any less ridiculous IMO.
I wasn't just "poo-pooing" them. I gave arguments for why I thought they were invalid. If you disagree, please provide a different perspective. That's how discussion works.
It's not for you to decide whether another's morals are right or wrong. You are not a god.
Wow. OK, I won't be responding to any of your posts any longer, except to say this: I'm not saying that they are absolutely wrong. I gave arguments for why I believe they are wrong. If you disagree, just tell me why you disagree. No need to toss around silly comments that don't build off the discussion.
Why would anyone want to discuss why the morals of others are bad???
And your judgemental railing on and on has what to do with beef? This is a beef thread. You want a thread about judging others morals, go start one.
Getting back on track. Making a big batch of beef barbocoa this afternoon!0
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