Eating Carbs Protein Fat at once makes u fat?
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Ok I tried searching the forums for this but it just kept talking about our ratios.
My question is is eating protein and carbs at the same time a setup for fat storage.
For example I can either eat. Fiber one bar or a Atkins bar.
Same calories relatively same fats carbs both at 20g sugar is the same at 6g but of course the sugar alcohol is in the Atkins. There is 16g of protein in the Atkins and 1g in the fiber one. So normally id think protein however I am starting to think that eating all your macros at once can set you up for fat storage even if it is the holy protein. Sorry if I'm losing some of you.
My question is is eating protein and carbs at the same time a setup for fat storage.
For example I can either eat. Fiber one bar or a Atkins bar.
Same calories relatively same fats carbs both at 20g sugar is the same at 6g but of course the sugar alcohol is in the Atkins. There is 16g of protein in the Atkins and 1g in the fiber one. So normally id think protein however I am starting to think that eating all your macros at once can set you up for fat storage even if it is the holy protein. Sorry if I'm losing some of you.
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I think you are over complicating things. As a general rule, when you go high carb, you should go low fat and vice versa but to say you can never eat them together is a bit over the top.0
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Over consumption of calories makes you fat...not individual macro-nutrients, regardless of whether you eat them together, separate, or whatever...
My meals and snacks generally have elements of all 3 macro-nutrients and I've lost about 25 Lbs.0 -
Ok I tried searching the forums for this but it just kept talking about our ratios.
My question is is eating protein and carbs at the same time a setup for fat storage.
For example I can either eat. Fiber one bar or a Atkins bar.
Same calories relatively same fats carbs both at 20g sugar is the same at 6g but of course the sugar alcohol is in the Atkins. There is 16g of protein in the Atkins and 1g in the fiber one. So normally id think protein however I am starting to think that eating all your macros at once can set you up for fat storage even if it is the holy protein. Sorry if I'm losing some of you.
you lost me at the title.... i really hope this is a troll post and noone actually believes *kitten* like this!0 -
You want to eat carbs, protein and fat in every meal. Each piece has a different function for your body. Research what they do for you and how much of each should be in each meal. (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/healthy-diet/NU00200) Ratios are very important. For example I eat steel cut oats with peanut better from breakfast.0
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Im confused.
You realize you'd be hard pressed to eat ANYTHING without it containing 1 or more macro nutrients. Unless you're just drinking olive oil. O_O0 -
I think you are over complicating things. As a general rule, when you go high carb, you should go low fat and vice versa but to say you can never eat them together is a bit over the top.
I have been following this general rule myself. I try to eat a fair amount of protein through the day, I eat high carbs ( mostly fruit and vegetables, no white processed flours or sugars ), and I eat very low fat. it has worked well for me.
The reverse seems to be true, and that's why the Atkins diet works, I lost a quite a bit on Atkins several years ago, problem was I eventually had to add the carbs back and had a hard time limiting my fat. I gained it all back and then some. I started my diet a year ago (Feb 15) and began going high carb/low fat last summer, it is still working well for me.0 -
Is this a serious question? When you eat a hamburger you are eating fat, carbs, and protein all at once. When you eat yogurt you are eating fat, carbs, and protein all at once. Almost everything we eat contains all three of these nutrients in the same bite. What you're saying makes no sense...0
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Making this way too complicated. Stay at a deficit while eating 85-90% nutritious foods. Get around .8 grams/lb body weight protein and .4 grams/lb body weight fat. Fill in remaining calories with carbs.0
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Ok I tried searching the forums for this but it just kept talking about our ratios.
My question is is eating protein and carbs at the same time a setup for fat storage.
For example I can either eat. Fiber one bar or a Atkins bar.
Same calories relatively same fats carbs both at 20g sugar is the same at 6g but of course the sugar alcohol is in the Atkins. There is 16g of protein in the Atkins and 1g in the fiber one. So normally id think protein however I am starting to think that eating all your macros at once can set you up for fat storage even if it is the holy protein. Sorry if I'm losing some of you.
Extra calories set you up for fat storage. If you are in a deficit, you will not be holding on to fat.
Fat doesn't make you fat. Carbs don't make you fat. Protein doesn't make you fat. Excess calories make you fat.
Eat what you want, when you want.0 -
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You're body doesn't keep track when you eat things together or separate. In fact, it is specially designed to eat all the things! Enjoy!0
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Blah I figured it out for myself.
The answer is high impact carbs and fat shouldn't go together because of the insulin response.
Protein the jury is still out...I'm starting to wonder if the free aminos become a problem when they are in excess and can link up and be stored.
Any other ideas feel free to comment, I know there are Millions of protein discussions so I'm off to read that now.0 -
Ok I tried searching the forums for this but it just kept talking about our ratios.
My question is is eating protein and carbs at the same time a setup for fat storage.
For example I can either eat. Fiber one bar or a Atkins bar.
Same calories relatively same fats carbs both at 20g sugar is the same at 6g but of course the sugar alcohol is in the Atkins. There is 16g of protein in the Atkins and 1g in the fiber one. So normally id think protein however I am starting to think that eating all your macros at once can set you up for fat storage even if it is the holy protein. Sorry if I'm losing some of you.
Extra calories set you up for fat storage. If you are in a deficit, you will not be holding on to fat.
Fat doesn't make you fat. Carbs don't make you fat. Protein doesn't make you fat. Excess calories make you fat.
Eat what you want, when you want.
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nope. timing doesn't affect it.0
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Is this a serious question? When you eat a hamburger you are eating fat, carbs, and protein all at once. When you eat yogurt you are eating fat, carbs, and protein all at once. Almost everything we eat contains all three of these nutrients in the same bite. What you're saying makes no sense...
Too true! Plus those bars aren't great for you, just eat real food instead.0 -
Blah I figured it out for myself.
The answer is high impact carbs and fat shouldn't go together because of the insulin response.
Protein the jury is still out...I'm starting to wonder if the free aminos become a problem when they are in excess and can link up and be stored.
Any other ideas feel free to comment, I know there are Millions of protein discussions so I'm off to read that now.
this sounds like good old fashioned broscience to me.0 -
If you are in a calorie deficit, whether or not something gets 'stored' you are still not eating as much as your body is burning, so it necessarily has to pull something out of storage in order to have fuel throughout the day. Whether you are burning the same stuff you just ate, or storing those specific molecules and burning off more of other molecules that were stored long ago, at the end of the day it's still the same result.Blah I figured it out for myself.
The answer is high impact carbs and fat shouldn't go together because of the insulin response.
Protein the jury is still out...I'm starting to wonder if the free aminos become a problem when they are in excess and can link up and be stored.
Any other ideas feel free to comment, I know there are Millions of protein discussions so I'm off to read that now.0 -
Blah I figured it out for myself.
The answer is high impact carbs and fat shouldn't go together because of the insulin response.
Protein the jury is still out...I'm starting to wonder if the free aminos become a problem when they are in excess and can link up and be stored.
Any other ideas feel free to comment, I know there are Millions of protein discussions so I'm off to read that now.
Absolutely untrue. Insulin response really has nothing to do with fat storage.0 -
Over consumption of calories makes you fat...not individual macro-nutrients, regardless of whether you eat them together, separate, or whatever...
This is nonsense.
If you eat nothing but fat, oil, lard, etc, say, 3000 calories a day you will LOSE weight.0 -
The question you are asking is does food combining accelerate weight loss?
The answer is: no.
The theory is based on a distorted application of GI / GL.0 -
Is this a serious question? When you eat a hamburger you are eating fat, carbs, and protein all at once. When you eat yogurt you are eating fat, carbs, and protein all at once. Almost everything we eat contains all three of these nutrients in the same bite. What you're saying makes no sense...
Too true! Plus those bars aren't great for you, just eat real food instead.
What is wrong with bars? they are food just like everything else. You bite, chew, swallow, digest, then crap out the same way you do with chicken breast or rice.0 -
NOPE
she says while tucking into a tuna mayonnaise and cheese sandwich (lebanese flatbread style sandwich... and I added olive oil to the tuna mayo) Haven't logged it yet but I'm pretty sure it's high in protein, fat and carbs all at the same time. I have a busy day, I need something filling.
keep what you eat within your calories and macros and you'll be fine :flowerforyou:0 -
Absolutely untrue. Insulin response really has nothing to do with fat storage.
DUH?
Even Wikipedia knows that one of the two MAIN functions of insulin is to store fat. That's metabolism 101 for dummies!
This video explains all
http://youtu.be/Yo3TRbkIrow
as does this one
http://youtu.be/T2K_ro2Lrxw 0 -
Blah I figured it out for myself.
The answer is high impact carbs and fat shouldn't go together because of the insulin response.
Protein the jury is still out...I'm starting to wonder if the free aminos become a problem when they are in excess and can link up and be stored.
Any other ideas feel free to comment, I know there are Millions of protein discussions so I'm off to read that now.
wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong x 500 -
Over consumption of calories makes you fat...not individual macro-nutrients, regardless of whether you eat them together, separate, or whatever...
This is nonsense.
If you eat nothing but fat, oil, lard, etc, say, 3000 calories a day you will LOSE weight.
Ummm no. If I ate 3000 cals per day of butter I would gain weight (not to mention a host of other medical problems - ?constipation anyone). 3000 calories is over my TDEE. It does not matter where those calories come from.
To the OP, eating over your TDEE makes you fat. It is that simple.0 -
If I had to think that hard about my diet, I'd definitely just give up! I just try to eat healthy and stay within my calorie limit and it seems to be working0
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insulin does have a lot to do with fat storage, but the body takes a long time to break down dietary fat so eating dietary fat should *Not* spike insulin. eating a lot of simple carbs will spike insulin more than any other combination carbs-fat, fat-protein carb-fat-protein @ relative Caloires. That being said, healthy individual (non-diabetics) probably doesnt make that much of a difference and total calories is obviously the most important thing.0
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This is nonsense.
If you eat nothing but fat, oil, lard, etc, say, 3000 calories a day you will LOSE weight.
THAT was nonsense?!
You seem to believe the whole low carb, minimal GI, keep the insulin low, shovel in the fat and it will never get stored because there is no insulin to store it argument.
And that misses an entire swathe of metabolic factors ... "101 for dummies" or not
The body adjusts, if you consume more than you burn you'll store fat ... doesn't matter what you are necking.0 -
You're a little confused.Absolutely untrue. Insulin response really has nothing to do with fat storage.
DUH?
Even Wikipedia knows that one of the two MAIN functions of insulin is to store fat. That's metabolism 101 for dummies!
This video explains allhttp://youtu.be/Yo3TRbkIrow
as does this onehttp://youtu.be/T2K_ro2Lrxw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34mViApQiyE
Start around 14:00
Better yet, read this:
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=3190
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