Tell me again why eating before bed won't make me fat?

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  • MaryPoppinsIAint
    MaryPoppinsIAint Posts: 157 Member
    Just for context, I net around 18-1900 calories a day. I use the TDEE-20% (search the IPOARM thread) method for determining my calories and macros. I do 30-60 minutes of cardio 1-3x a week, but otherwise I sit a lot because I have a joint disorder that makes most exercises painful and being on my feet for long stretches worse. I am still breast-feeding my toddler, and I eat back the estimated 300 calories (and associated macros) expended in breast-milk each day, but not exercise calories unless I'm totally starving.

    Pure & simple, I can't sleep if I'm at all hungry. Even if I'm completely exhausted, I will eat a small meal 4-500 calories before calling it a night, just whatever sounds good. If I'm NOT exhausted, it tends to be more of an 800-1000 calorie meal because I tend to eat lightly during the day. I'm just not all that hungry until the evening hours. Due to my schedule, I'm often eating dinner after 9pm, and I typically hit the hay by 10:30 or 11pm.

    I'm down 25 pounds in six weeks (official weigh-in is tomorrow, but I snuck on the scale this morning!). Tough to argue with that.

    ETA: Oh, and if you look at my diary, you'll note that I am not a "health nut" by ANY stretch of the imagination. Yes, I eat a lot of salad, but I also eat nuts by the half-cup, cheese, meat, dairy, salty snacks, cereal, and *legasp* chocolate. Most of them (including the chocolate) on a daily basis. I'm never faced with being hungry and out of calories. One day out of every day is "Hell With It Day", they're scheduled on my calendar, and on those days I eat anything I want and do not log until just before bedtime, and then only to prove that you CAN indulge and still lose weight at a reasonable pace. I don't eat myself sick or anything, but literally any food goes. My last Hell WIth It Day, my husband and I went to Joe's Crab Shack and the calorie counts were staggering, never mind the sodium. And yet, I still dropped a pound that week.

    It still kinda blows my mind a little, but this is the most consistent success I've EVER had losing weight.
  • aj445
    aj445 Posts: 183 Member
    I snack on cereal before bed ALL the time. Lots of times in bed ha. I'm steadily losing weight. Nothing wrong with eating before bed :)
  • mistesh
    mistesh Posts: 243 Member
    "The anterior pituitary gland in the brain secretes growth hormone in several pulses, about 85 percent of which occur while you are sleeping. ... When you eat food containing carbohydrate, your blood glucose rises. ... high insulin levels will suppress the secretion of growth hormone."

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/498071-how-eating-carbs-at-night-affects-the-growth-hormone/

    Having just read the above, I checked to see if it was mentioned in this thread, and sure enough there it was!
    In addition, there is the problem of insulin spike (following a blood sugar surge from a heavy meal) suppressing human growth hormone (which is mainly secreted in the first couple of hours of sleep).

    Certainly there must be at least a part of your body that some of you are concerned about now, say your fingernails haha.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    "The anterior pituitary gland in the brain secretes growth hormone in several pulses, about 85 percent of which occur while you are sleeping. ... When you eat food containing carbohydrate, your blood glucose rises. ... high insulin levels will suppress the secretion of growth hormone."

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/498071-how-eating-carbs-at-night-affects-the-growth-hormone/

    Having just read the above, I checked to see if it was mentioned in this thread, and sure enough there it was!
    In addition, there is the problem of insulin spike (following a blood sugar surge from a heavy meal) suppressing human growth hormone (which is mainly secreted in the first couple of hours of sleep).

    Certainly there must be at least a part of your body that some of you are concerned about now, say your fingernails haha.
    Livestrong as a source?? You can't be serious!
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    "The anterior pituitary gland in the brain secretes growth hormone in several pulses, about 85 percent of which occur while you are sleeping. ... When you eat food containing carbohydrate, your blood glucose rises. ... high insulin levels will suppress the secretion of growth hormone."

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/498071-how-eating-carbs-at-night-affects-the-growth-hormone/

    Having just read the above, I checked to see if it was mentioned in this thread, and sure enough there it was!
    In addition, there is the problem of insulin spike (following a blood sugar surge from a heavy meal) suppressing human growth hormone (which is mainly secreted in the first couple of hours of sleep).

    Certainly there must be at least a part of your body that some of you are concerned about now, say your fingernails haha.
    Livestrong as a source?? You can't be serious!

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  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    "The anterior pituitary gland in the brain secretes growth hormone in several pulses, about 85 percent of which occur while you are sleeping. ... When you eat food containing carbohydrate, your blood glucose rises. ... high insulin levels will suppress the secretion of growth hormone."

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/498071-how-eating-carbs-at-night-affects-the-growth-hormone/

    Having just read the above, I checked to see if it was mentioned in this thread, and sure enough there it was!
    In addition, there is the problem of insulin spike (following a blood sugar surge from a heavy meal) suppressing human growth hormone (which is mainly secreted in the first couple of hours of sleep).

    Certainly there must be at least a part of your body that some of you are concerned about now, say your fingernails haha.

    Tell me, what happens if HGH is suppressed, assuming it is?
  • mistesh
    mistesh Posts: 243 Member
    You're so nice! Certainly a youthful manner is not one of your, how should I put it, shortcomings, lol.
  • squatsandlipgloss
    squatsandlipgloss Posts: 595 Member
    Sits back and watches the discussion as she thinks of the 1/3 bag of M&Ms and cake she had on 3 different occasions before bed last week and lost up to 2 lbs every single morning after. Hmm...

    PS: you're all doctors, nutritionists and biologists, I assume? By the way you're all so convinced of what you're talking about?
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    You're so nice! Certainly a youthful manner is not one of your, how should I put it, shortcomings, lol.

    What is a youthful manner? :huh:

    You don't need to be a Dr etc to be able to do research and read actual studies.
  • Tough2U
    Tough2U Posts: 1
    Keep this in mind...calories in verses what you have burned

    Now if you don't like to actually diet...

    Eat what you want between 12 noon and 6pm....do not go hungry but dont eat until you cannot breath either.
    However drink two cups of water before everything you eat

    ......water, tea, coffee no sugar drinks and water, wake up till 12 and 6pm till you go to sleep, Do not break these rules at all. Notice the weight will come off and stay off...

    weigh yourself daily...

    Now you be the judge...I think you will be really surprised
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Keep this in mind...calories in verses what you have burned

    Now if you don't like to actually diet...

    Eat what you want between 12 noon and 6pm....do not go hungry but dont eat until you cannot breath either.
    However drink two cups of water before everything you eat

    ......water, tea, coffee no sugar drinks and water, wake up till 12 and 6pm till you go to sleep, Do not break these rules at all. Notice the weight will come off and stay off...

    weigh yourself daily...

    Now you be the judge...I think you will be really surprised

    I can easily eat 4000 calories in a sitting without feeling like I can't breath.

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    (Nice first post btw, you waited for this topic?)
  • karenhray7
    karenhray7 Posts: 219 Member
    Keep this in mind...calories in verses what you have burned

    Now if you don't like to actually diet...

    Eat what you want between 12 noon and 6pm....do not go hungry but dont eat until you cannot breath either.
    However drink two cups of water before everything you eat

    ......water, tea, coffee no sugar drinks and water, wake up till 12 and 6pm till you go to sleep, Do not break these rules at all. Notice the weight will come off and stay off...

    weigh yourself daily...

    Now you be the judge...I think you will be really surprised

    And this works because...

    And what happens if I'm thirsty between 12noon and 6pm? I would be an angry, angry person if I couldn't drink anything for 6 hours.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Keep this in mind...calories in verses what you have burned

    Now if you don't like to actually diet...

    Eat what you want between 12 noon and 6pm....do not go hungry but dont eat until you cannot breath either.
    However drink two cups of water before everything you eat

    ......water, tea, coffee no sugar drinks and water, wake up till 12 and 6pm till you go to sleep, Do not break these rules at all. Notice the weight will come off and stay off...

    weigh yourself daily...

    Now you be the judge...I think you will be really surprised

    As magerum said, I can easily eat way too many calories in a sitting without feeling like I can't breath.

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    ETA: I also don't see how that would be considered "not dieting" since it's annoying as hell to not eat when I feel like it.
  • SteelySunshine
    SteelySunshine Posts: 1,092 Member
    Bob and Otto go on a diet. Both Bob and Otto are 5'8" and weigh 300 lbs they are coincidentally also both 30 years old, same measurements as well. They are both accountants and rarely leave their desks. They both have a TDDE of 3113 calories.

    Bob will only eat at night. Otto will only eat in the morning before going to work. Bob eats 2600 calories before he goes to bed. Otto eats 3,000 calories shortly after getting up in the morning. Who will lose the most weight in 2 months?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Bob and Otto go on a diet. Both Bob and Otto are 5'8" and weigh 300 lbs they are coincidentally also both 30 years old, same measurements as well. They are both accountants and rarely leave their desks. They both have a TDDE of 3113 calories.

    Bob will only eat at night. Otto will only eat in the morning before going to work. Bob eats 2600 calories before he goes to bed. Otto eats 3,000 calories shortly after getting up in the morning. Who will lose the most weight in 2 months?

    Assuming they eat the same thing? Neither.
  • squatsandlipgloss
    squatsandlipgloss Posts: 595 Member
    calories in, calories out. Doesn't matter when you consume these calories as long as you burn them.

    I think this answers the question.

    ... And they all lived happily ever after. The end.
  • vkw1
    vkw1 Posts: 88
    Bob could burn some calories in bed with his OH
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Given that digestion takes from 2, 4 to 8 hr. and that the ATP cycle conversion is substrate rate limited. Yep, eating late at night does not really matter.

    Think of calories as being sum integrated over the day. The differences due to timing of meals, while real, are negligible unless you are dealing with extreme athletes.

    However, if not eating late at night helps in restricting total calorie consumption then it makes sense.
  • HypnoticHaylee
    HypnoticHaylee Posts: 23
    Ive lost about 120 pounds, with about 30 ish more to go. The entire weight loss journey ( about 1.5 yr) I have ate a big meal right before bed. I am super grumpy if I don't eat before bed lol. It has never negatively affected me.
  • Belinda658
    Belinda658 Posts: 181 Member
    yes it is don't eat after u go bed I have done that let me tell you I pay for it the next day I see 1 to 2 lbs weight gain no good

    Well I highly doubt it's 2lb of fat. I ate dinner Kate last night and scales went up this morning. Am I worried? No
  • Ideabaker
    Ideabaker Posts: 516 Member
    The problem with eating late at night is that when you lay down all the food settles in whatever direction you're laying down and then sinks into your body as fat!! So lay on your back and all that food is going to turn into a fat *kitten*....lay on your side and your late night meal with settle into fat hips....lay on your front and you'll get a bigger belly.

    Eating during the day whilst you're moving around means the food never has a chance to settle and become fat; instead it swiches around and gets broken down into smaller and smaller pieces as you move around until they're too small to even become fat...and then your body expels them.

    FACT.

    :laugh: Even months later...:laugh:

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