A dog you can trust or a dog that will kill?

twinketta

I am sure you all train your dogs in a very good way as I train my lil toy poodle.

But it seems the problem was here that the owner was not there, if she had been would the dogs have reacted in such a violent way.

So does training and socialising mean your dog is going to `behave` in your home if you are not present?

I had an alsatian (GS) for 6 years before I got married and she was always well behaved and well trained

To cut a long story short, I had my first child and me and mum were sitting in the lounge and my son crawled over and must of pulled an ear or hair and the dog turned and had my sons head in her mouth, she did not pierce the skin or leave any marks. but the next day I crated my dog and after a few days had to give her to an older person with no children.

I was present and I trusted my dog?

I know my dog was just warning my baby as she did not snap or bite, but it could have been devastating had the dog been in a `pack` or had I not been there ( not that I would have left my baby with her)

But this article in the news is a 14 year old girl not a baby?

ironanimal

No breed is a bad breed when trained correctly.

This.

And the evidence for this statement is where? Oh yeah there is none its just internet rhetoric.

I've encountered a great many more small dogs with attitude problems than larger dogs, regardless of breed. You need to keep in mind the demographic that certain breeds attract; young dumbasses trying to impress their friends with no real sense of responsibility or any idea how to train a dog? Usually seen with a pit/pit cross or a Staffordshire Bull Terrier here in the UK. If they had a freaking chihuahua, it'd still be as badly behaved as their EVIL MENACE pitbull.

My dog is a Husky cross, and was terrible for nipping when she was a puppy. Eventually I gave up trying to teach her it was bad in the 'human' way with a stern no and a pointed finger, and bit her back. She has never nipped, mouthed or even curled a lip at anyone since and is the softest dog I've ever known with dogs and humans. You need to train your dogs properly; they are still animals at the end of the day.

XLMuffnTop

I've encountered a great many more small dogs with attitude problems than larger dogs, regardless of breed. You need to keep in mind the demographic that certain breeds attract; young dumbasses trying to impress their friends with no real sense of responsibility or any idea how to train a dog? Usually seen with a pit/pit cross or a Staffordshire Bull Terrier here in the UK. If they had a freaking chihuahua, it'd still be as badly behaved as their EVIL MENACE pitbull.

My dog is a Husky cross, and was terrible for nipping when she was a puppy. Eventually I gave up trying to teach her it was bad in the 'human' way with a stern no and a pointed finger, and bit her back. She has never nipped, mouthed or even curled a lip at anyone since and is the softest dog I've ever known with dogs and humans. You need to train your dogs properly; they are still animals at the end of the day.

I've been bitten by far more small dogs than I have large ones. I have a scar on my leg from a small dog when I was a child. Then when I was walking one morning, this woman let her chihuahua out in the front yard (instead of the fenced backyard) to go to the bathroom. It ran for me and tried to bite my ankle. I just kicked it and the woman had the audacity to yell at me for it. I yelled back something about effing leash laws and went on my merry way. Then a dude two houses down did the same thing with his chihuahua who would roam the neighborhood. Little runt would growl and scare my kids while they were in OUR yard.

Again, it's not the breed but I think people just PAMPER smaller dogs too much. They see them as replacement kids and think they can't do any wrong due to their size but they can be quite the menace. People put more emphasis on larger dogs strictly because of their size but ALL dogs need training. Period. If you don't want to put forth the effort training it, you shouldn't have gotten a dog. Thankfully, our gentle giant is extremely submissive and needs little training other than the basics of sit, stay, come, etc.

SemperAnticus1643

I've encountered a great many more small dogs with attitude problems than larger dogs, regardless of breed. You need to keep in mind the demographic that certain breeds attract; young dumbasses trying to impress their friends with no real sense of responsibility or any idea how to train a dog? Usually seen with a pit/pit cross or a Staffordshire Bull Terrier here in the UK. If they had a freaking chihuahua, it'd still be as badly behaved as their EVIL MENACE pitbull.

My dog is a Husky cross, and was terrible for nipping when she was a puppy. Eventually I gave up trying to teach her it was bad in the 'human' way with a stern no and a pointed finger, and bit her back. She has never nipped, mouthed or even curled a lip at anyone since and is the softest dog I've ever known with dogs and humans. You need to train your dogs properly; they are still animals at the end of the day.

I've been bitten by far more small dogs than I have large ones. I have a scar on my leg from a small dog when I was a child. Then when I was walking one morning, this woman let her chihuahua out in the front yard (instead of the fenced backyard) to go to the bathroom. It ran for me and tried to bite my ankle. I just kicked it and the woman had the audacity to yell at me for it. I yelled back something about effing leash laws and went on my merry way. Then a dude two houses down did the same thing with his chihuahua who would roam the neighborhood. Little runt would growl and scare my kids while they were in OUR yard.

Again, it's not the breed but I think people just PAMPER smaller dogs too much. They see them as replacement kids and think they can't do any wrong due to their size but they can be quite the menace. People put more emphasis on larger dogs strictly because of their size but ALL dogs need training. Period. If you don't want to put forth the effort training it, you shouldn't have gotten a dog. Thankfully, our gentle giant is extremely submissive and needs little training other than the basics of sit, stay, come, etc.

Nice little pellet gun comes in handy from time to time. lol

dessyjo

You can not blame one bad dog for his/her entire breed. That's like saying Hitler or Saddam Hussein represent our breed 'human'.

AwkwardAlycia

Pretty much just skipped to the end of the comments so I can add something.

1)My brother had his face bitten by a poodle when he was younger. so just because its not reported doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
2)Its the dog, not the breed. BLAME THE DEED, NOT THE BREED.

At my house we have three Labradors (white, chocolate, and black) and a red nose pit bull. The pit bull is great around kids.. If you are a dog owner you know that dogs have their own very different personality's.
I do however feel that the owner of the dogs(said by neighbors do be a little nervous about her 'powerfully built' dogs herself) should not have let her kid have company. We NEVER let anyone in our house without us, and our dogs wouldn't even do anything to them.

My most insensitive comment of all would be, You don't even have your own oven but you have five dogs? I guess I wouldn't understand, I'm American and even the ghettos have ovens. sorry, that detail just stuck with me. The only reasons I can think of for using the neighbors oven(which is weird) is that either theirs was broken or the 14 year olds couldn't use the oven unsupervised.

LMT2012

Generalizing about ANY breed is dangerous. It boils down to the power of the dog. People fear Pit Bulls because of their sheer ability to inflict harm. They have the greatest pounds per square inch pressure of any breed in the jaw. They are animals, and no one can predict with certainty what can provoke an animal. A chihuahua might be a biter, but it won't devastate. With children, why leave any room for error?

junctiongirl

Thats not right either...Rotties and Pits were not bread for fighting at all...

Pit bulls... In the U.S., these dogs were used as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, to drive livestock, and as family companions.[6] Some have been selectively bread for their fighting abilities.

The Rottweiler was employed in its traditional roles until the mid-19th century when railways replaced droving for herding livestock to market. While still used in herding, Rottweilers are now also used as search and rescue dogs, as guide dogs for the blind, as guard dogs or police dogs, and in other roles.[2]

http://pinterest.com/tikitacky/photographs-i-vintage-pit-bull/

There are also reports that pitbulls were used as babysitters for victorian children.

LaLouve_RK

Yesterday in the newspaper in the UK was an article about a 14 yo girl that was killed by 4 dogs (although there were 5 dogs in this small house.

The dogs that killed the girl were 2 staffies and 2 bull mastiffs. The 5th dog was in another room. the police shot the 4 dogs that mauled the poor girl.

Here is a link to the secondary article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2300234/Jade-Lomas-Anderson-death-Jobless-single-mum-Bev-Concannon-dogs-mauled-girl-goes-hiding.html

On the radio there was a debate from 2 respected people in the `dog world` one of these people said that staffies are classed as `nursing dogs` and are recommended for people with small children?

Also during the debate was the fact that it had never been recorded that a poodle had bitten or attacked a child?

I have a little toy `teddy bear` poodle who is the sweetest thing but I am sure some of you have staffies and bull mastiffs?

What are your opinions as to the safety of dogs around children is there a breed of dog that you would not trust?

The monsters/killers/aggression trigger are Humans. Period.
3/4 are dominated by their freakin' chihuahua or poodle and they dont even know it because they don't get how it works in the dog world, so they treat their dog like a human kid... so imagine a strong willed dog such a husky, AmStaff and Lab getting in those hands... DISASTER. You can just hope those people gets a happy-go-lucky dog...

SoDamnHungry

No breed is a bad breed when trained correctly.

This. So many dogs get a bad reputation because douche bags abuse them and teach them horrible things.

MSeel1984

Dogs are a product of their owners and their breeding.

I've seen bull mastiffs and pitt bulls that are more gentle than some lap dogs.

I had a cocker spaniel growing up who was from a puppy mill. He was in-bread (no controlled breeding among dogs from the same family-though we found that out too late) and he attacked my sister-split her lip open and she had to get stitches.

I now have two boxers...the elder is a very gentle dog and loves people. My puppy I am training very carefully to ensure she grows up to be as sweet as my other dog.

Owners have control over how their dogs turn out...most likely these owners with the dog that mauled the girl were not entirely responsible owners.

It's not fair to paint an entire breed of dog as a violent or destructive dog.

2credneck208

Just a little test, for all us dog owners?

Leave a little doll or teddy bear with your dog when you go our for a couple of hours?

A doll or teddy bear isn't going to antagonize a dog like kids can. Plus most dogs left home alone will get bored and chew it up anyway.

CongoClark81

No breed is a bad breed when trained correctly.

Totally Agree!!!!!

saxmaniac

I used to be on the fence about this... then a few years ago, a pair of bull mastiffs escaped from their house, prowled the neighborhood, and attacked my neighbor and his toy poodle, who was in minding his business in his own garage. These were well-trained, loved dogs in good neighborhood, that just decided to go and snack on a human one day.

The cops had to shoot both six or seven times, just to stop them. I'm glad my kids weren't outside.

I try to avoid all animals that are capable of eating me.

SweetTeaAndCutoffs

I think it's so incredibly sad that certain breeds are lumped into a negative category. Any dog is capable of anything and it certainly depends on treatment and training from the owner. I'd be very curious as to how these dogs were treated.

tipadoo

Totally depends on the dog's personality. I had a border collie that I would have trusted with my baby - he was so calm and obedient....but the border collie I have now, snaps at the cat if she thinks the cat is getting something she isn't. So I wouldn't ever leave her alone with babies or kids. I believe every breed has the potential to do something terrible, because they are animals.

suzplace67

@ InnerFatGirl......Beautiful! You can see how loving your baby is. Those eyes...love them!

Chriistiina18

I have a boxer! she's very hyper but shes the sweetest!!!!!!