Pop tarts vs. Toaster Strudel

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  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I'm not currently including either one in my everyday diet, but when I do indulge, it depends on my mood. Blueberry toaster strudel is my fave when I want a strudel. When I want a Pop-Tart, it's an unfrosted strawberry with butter on top! I can't believe nobody else has even mentioned the unfrosted Pop-Tarts!!!

    That sounds delicious!

    Another thing not mentioned: dipping your PopTart in milk like a cookie!
  • earlyxer
    earlyxer Posts: 240 Member
    What I refuse to do is to excuse your apparent orthorexia.

    Well, it's pretty apparent that you share no such obsession.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    What I refuse to do is to excuse your apparent orthorexia.

    Well, it's pretty apparent that you share no such obsession.

    Truth! :flowerforyou:
  • prdavies1949
    prdavies1949 Posts: 323 Member
    I was reading a thread, on MFP, the other day about why is the US of A so overweight. I think this thread has answered that question.
  • mbeuchert24
    mbeuchert24 Posts: 204 Member
    Taste-wise, the Toaster Strudel, but the Pop Tart wins for laziness. TS requires assembly, and sometimes more than one cycle in the toaster.

    Ha ha...this ;)
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member

    There, that's actually a healthy breakfast that will leave you feeling full, contribute to the creation and retention of lean mass, and avoid giving you Type 2 diabetes.

    So all you've done is compared pop tarts to eggs. I still fail to see why you call it garbage? How's it going to give me type 2? Sugar doesn't give you diabetes. Why do I claim that? Because science.

    I hit my micro nutrient goals quite easily by nautre of my diet, which you seem to ignore. By the time I've finished my third meal I've eaten 2 - 2.5 lbs of vegetables, 1.5 - 2 lbs of lean meat (primarily chicken breast), almonds, cottage cheese, whey, a mutli-vitamin, & fish oil supplement. As well as 16+ glasses of water.

    I don't eat breakfast, so that argument is invalid.

    To what would you like me to compare your vaunted Pop Tarts? A chicken breast? A clump of broccoli? How about a protein shake, which someone else mentioned? Pop Tarts are garbage - I won't even mention what goes into them as far as preservatives and food coloring, so let's just focus on the basic ingredients: bleached flour, sugar, and fat to hold it all together. Or, from Kellogg's own website: ENRICHED FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMIN MONONITRATE [VITAMIN B1], RIBOFLAVIN [VITAMIN B2], FOLIC ACID), BROWN SUGAR (SUGAR, MOLASSES), SOYBEAN AND PALM OIL (WITH TBHQ FOR FRESHNESS), CORN SYRUP, DEXTROSE, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, CRACKER MEAL. I'll stop there before we get to the stuff that can't be pronounced (your "science", I believe).

    In your diet you describe, do you routinely sit down to eat a bowl of flour (don't let the "wheat" part fool you, all flour is wheat-based, they're not contending whole wheat)? Plenty of sugar? Doing shots of palm oil, the worst of the oils? Mainlining corn syrup?

    I hope the answer is "no". I mean, after all this is not myFATnesspal.com, unless I'm mistaken.

    If you can read just that partial ingredient list, and not come to the conclusion that, yes Virginia, Pop Tarts ARE garbage and Frankenfood - well, there's not much more to say.

    You seem very hangry, would you like a pop tart ice cream sammie? :flowerforyou:

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  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member


    Pop Tarts aren't a drink, and correlation does not equal causation.

    If you want to keep rationalizing your dietary choices, I'm not going to burst your bubble. But results speak for themselves.

    It's rational to eat food. It's irrational to suggest that food never be eaten. I do agree that results speak for themselves. I'm proud of my successes!

    The point about the drink is that liquid sugar hits your system quicker. Diabetics are advised to avoid sugary drinks, including fresh juices, unless their blood sugar is too low, in which case a glass of OJ is the perfect remedy.




    What I refuse to do is to excuse your apparent orthorexia.

    oh hell no...
  • GetNFitKitCat
    GetNFitKitCat Posts: 30 Member
    neither are really good for you but if I had to choose between one or the other I would go with the Strudel
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member

    There, that's actually a healthy breakfast that will leave you feeling full, contribute to the creation and retention of lean mass, and avoid giving you Type 2 diabetes.

    So all you've done is compared pop tarts to eggs. I still fail to see why you call it garbage? How's it going to give me type 2? Sugar doesn't give you diabetes. Why do I claim that? Because science.

    I hit my micro nutrient goals quite easily by nautre of my diet, which you seem to ignore. By the time I've finished my third meal I've eaten 2 - 2.5 lbs of vegetables, 1.5 - 2 lbs of lean meat (primarily chicken breast), almonds, cottage cheese, whey, a mutli-vitamin, & fish oil supplement. As well as 16+ glasses of water.

    I don't eat breakfast, so that argument is invalid.

    To what would you like me to compare your vaunted Pop Tarts? A chicken breast? A clump of broccoli? How about a protein shake, which someone else mentioned? Pop Tarts are garbage - I won't even mention what goes into them as far as preservatives and food coloring, so let's just focus on the basic ingredients: bleached flour, sugar, and fat to hold it all together. Or, from Kellogg's own website: ENRICHED FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMIN MONONITRATE [VITAMIN B1], RIBOFLAVIN [VITAMIN B2], FOLIC ACID), BROWN SUGAR (SUGAR, MOLASSES), SOYBEAN AND PALM OIL (WITH TBHQ FOR FRESHNESS), CORN SYRUP, DEXTROSE, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, CRACKER MEAL. I'll stop there before we get to the stuff that can't be pronounced (your "science", I believe).

    In your diet you describe, do you routinely sit down to eat a bowl of flour (don't let the "wheat" part fool you, all flour is wheat-based, they're not contending whole wheat)? Plenty of sugar? Doing shots of palm oil, the worst of the oils? Mainlining corn syrup?

    I hope the answer is "no". I mean, after all this is not myFATnesspal.com, unless I'm mistaken.

    If you can read just that partial ingredient list, and not come to the conclusion that, yes Virginia, Pop Tarts ARE garbage and Frankenfood - well, there's not much more to say.

    Oh dear! You missed the point entirely.

    And your assertion that someone who does incorporate these foods into their diet are fat is really rather ridiculous.

    Oh, and " I'll stop there before we get to the stuff that can't be pronounced (your "science", I believe)." lolwut?

    ETA: Quote from Eric Helms, who has his Master in Sports Management, is currently getting his PhD in Sports Nutrition and is a pro natural body builder and power lifter: "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food!"
  • Chris99mu
    Chris99mu Posts: 352 Member
    I can't believe this post is 6 pages. I don't know if I should be filled with shame or pride. Or strawberry goodness.

    STRUDEL, STRUDEL,STRUDEL!!!
  • onyxgirl17
    onyxgirl17 Posts: 1,722 Member
    Toaster Strudel FTW!
  • mdhughes33
    mdhughes33 Posts: 40
    Pop Tarts if they were vegetarian, so Nature's Path Organic Frosted Toaster Pastries chocolate or cinnamon.
    I don't think toaster strudel is vegetarian, but i'd try one that is :)
  • NewTnme
    NewTnme Posts: 258 Member
    Pop tarts because they're good hot or cold:happy:
    Brown sugar cinnamon.:tongue:
  • markdavy1982
    markdavy1982 Posts: 109 Member
    I feel like im missing out as i have never eaten either....
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,733 Member
    To what would you like me to compare your vaunted Pop Tarts? A chicken breast? A clump of broccoli? How about a protein shake, which someone else mentioned? Pop Tarts are garbage - I won't even mention what goes into them as far as preservatives and food coloring, so let's just focus on the basic ingredients: bleached flour, sugar, and fat to hold it all together. Or, from Kellogg's own website: ENRICHED FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMIN MONONITRATE [VITAMIN B1], RIBOFLAVIN [VITAMIN B2], FOLIC ACID), BROWN SUGAR (SUGAR, MOLASSES), SOYBEAN AND PALM OIL (WITH TBHQ FOR FRESHNESS), CORN SYRUP, DEXTROSE, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, CRACKER MEAL. I'll stop there before we get to the stuff that can't be pronounced (your "science", I believe).

    In your diet you describe, do you routinely sit down to eat a bowl of flour (don't let the "wheat" part fool you, all flour is wheat-based, they're not contending whole wheat)? Plenty of sugar? Doing shots of palm oil, the worst of the oils? Mainlining corn syrup?

    I hope the answer is "no". I mean, after all this is not myFATnesspal.com, unless I'm mistaken.

    If you can read just that partial ingredient list, and not come to the conclusion that, yes Virginia, Pop Tarts ARE garbage and Frankenfood - well, there's not much more to say.

    i love how these threads always result in some food phobic (usually a member in good standing of the paleo/primal/clean eating cults) posting the list of ingredients in pop tarts (or toaster strudels) as a way to prove they are "bad". :laugh:

    ooohhhhhhh scary! ...eh, kids?

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  • anaavocado
    anaavocado Posts: 2
    I LOVE cinnamon brown sugar Poptarts and sometimes a cherry one
    But Toaster Strudels are good no matter what flavor, especially the mixed berry ones. SO GOOD - with or without icing
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    i love how these threads always result in some food phobic (usually a member in good standing of the paleo/primal/clean eating cults) posting the list of ingredients in pop tarts (or toaster strudels) as a way to prove they are "bad". :laugh:

    ooohhhhhhh scary! ...eh, kids?

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    food phobic? orthorexic? really? we're still doing this?

    enjoy your thread, but the thinly veiled digs about having a psychological disorder need to stop. it's no different than calling someone anorexic which would get your reported/a strike/banned/etc

    many, MANY people prefer not to ingest synthetically produced chemical additives, and that's perfectly fine.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    They're both disgusting.

    Eat a quality pastry.

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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member

    This I just can't let go. From the American Diabetes Association website:

    "Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories from any source contributes to weight gain. Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes.

    The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should limit their intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes.."

    So, yeah, excessive sugar intake is linked to diabetes. But have it at, "science" is on your side - right?

    I will respond to all of this much more later when I'm not using my phone. I do need to mention this now though: If you look just a little bit into that statement you have bolded you will find that that comes from their conclusion that the caloric density of sugary drinks and their ease of consumption leads to excessive caloric intake. Which leads to obesity over time, leading to a cause of type 2. It is NOT the sugar they're actually warning about.

    Edited for typos
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member

    This I just can't let go. From the American Diabetes Association website:

    "Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories from any source contributes to weight gain. Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes.

    The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should limit their intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes.."

    So, yeah, excessive sugar intake is linked to diabetes. But have it at, "science" is on your side - right?

    I will respond to all of this much more later when I'm not using my phone. I do need to mention this now though: If you look just a little bit into that statement you have bolded you will find that that comes from their conclusion that the caloric density of sugary drinks and their ease of consumption leads to excessive caloric intake. Which leads to obesity over time, leading to a cause of type 2. It is NOT the sugar they're actually warning about.

    Edited for typos

    Adding to the quote so it is not so cherry picked:

    "The association that we observed between soda consumption and risk of diabetes is likely a cause-and-effect relationship because other studies have documented that sugary beverages cause weight gain, and weight gain is closely linked to the development of type 2 diabetes,"

    ^^this is for ad lib eating/drinking and should not be relevant when people are tracking calories and therefore not gaining weight...somewhere possibly like..just maybe...here!
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    My favorite Pop Tart is no longer made, so Toaster Strudels.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    i love how these threads always result in some food phobic (usually a member in good standing of the paleo/primal/clean eating cults) posting the list of ingredients in pop tarts (or toaster strudels) as a way to prove they are "bad". :laugh:

    ooohhhhhhh scary! ...eh, kids?

    sctv_joe_flaherty_count_floyd.jpeg

    food phobic? orthorexic? really? we're still doing this?

    enjoy your thread, but the thinly veiled digs about having a psychological disorder need to stop. it's no different than calling someone anorexic which would get your reported/a strike/banned/etc

    many, MANY people prefer not to ingest synthetically produced chemical additives, and that's perfectly fine.

    Which is fine, until they jump onto threads telling us we're all going to die/get horrible diseases from foods that are perfectly fine in moderation. :noway:

    I mean come on he said
    In your diet you describe, do you routinely sit down to eat a bowl of flour (don't let the "wheat" part fool you, all flour is wheat-based, they're not contending whole wheat)? Plenty of sugar? Doing shots of palm oil, the worst of the oils? Mainlining corn syrup?

    that's a little OTT :huh: it's just a pop tart. FFS.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    i love how these threads always result in some food phobic (usually a member in good standing of the paleo/primal/clean eating cults) posting the list of ingredients in pop tarts (or toaster strudels) as a way to prove they are "bad". :laugh:

    ooohhhhhhh scary! ...eh, kids?

    sctv_joe_flaherty_count_floyd.jpeg

    food phobic? orthorexic? really? we're still doing this?

    enjoy your thread, but the thinly veiled digs about having a psychological disorder need to stop. it's no different than calling someone anorexic which would get your reported/a strike/banned/etc

    many, MANY people prefer not to ingest synthetically produced chemical additives, and that's perfectly fine.

    Which is fine, until they jump onto threads telling us we're all going to die/get horrible diseases from foods that are perfectly fine in moderation. :noway:

    I mean come on he said
    In your diet you describe, do you routinely sit down to eat a bowl of flour (don't let the "wheat" part fool you, all flour is wheat-based, they're not contending whole wheat)? Plenty of sugar? Doing shots of palm oil, the worst of the oils? Mainlining corn syrup?

    that's a little OTT :huh: it's just a pop tart. FFS.

    except you all know these threads are only made to provoke that kind of thing in the first place........ :wink:
  • SolanumSunrise
    SolanumSunrise Posts: 244 Member
    Dry cardboard vs flaky yummy with frosting you put on? Strudels all the way.

    I second this opinion.
  • Brunner26_2
    Brunner26_2 Posts: 1,152
    My favorite Pop Tart is no longer made, so Toaster Strudels.

    They still make apple. They have apple cinnamon muffin out now, and they have apple pie around 4th of july. It happens, it's just not an all the time thing.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member


    except you all know these threads are only made to provoke that kind of thing in the first place........ :wink:

    Then they should exercise some of that willpower they show around evil pop tarts and not reply :laugh:
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    As the OP I do not mind what this thread has become and welcome all discussion on the subject. I would just like to point out this was a simple preference thread when it started. We had generated a conversation of nearly 2000 replies in my last two Pop tart threads. I was satisfied with the outcomes of those.

    Please, carry on!
  • Brunner26_2
    Brunner26_2 Posts: 1,152
    I love these threads :laugh:

    Also, there's a poptart group.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/12993-pop-tart-fans
  • Brunner26_2
    Brunner26_2 Posts: 1,152
    They're both gross Franken-food. I don't think I've had one since I was 15.
    REALLY?!? "Gross Franken-Food" ...and how does that changes the taste?

    Because if you have a habit of not pouring garbage down your throat, eating something like Toaster Strudel so bothers your conscience that you don't notice it's "flavor". I mean, Pop Tarts? Maybe if you're 9 years old.

    I don't understand this. Are you saying that we don't actually enjoy them as adults? That we can't taste them? That if you would actually eat on then you just eat anything without enjoying it?
  • honey_bee_keysha
    honey_bee_keysha Posts: 773 Member
    Toaster Strudel

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