Second, I've found by a quick perusal of the responses to my post that most ( most , but not all ) of the greatest defenders of garbage like Pop Tarts are those who are farthest from reaching their goal. 1. I don't find that to be true at all but it's an easy statement to throw out there without substantiating, so I can see why you'd try it. Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little. But if they have hit their minimum protein and fat targets, and still have some calories left to have a pop-tart, why is it a problem? People aren't eating 100% pop-tarts, they are eating pop-tarts as part of an otherwise healthy diet. Just like you did with your dessert today. I never SAID it was a problem - I said that Pop-Tarts and Toaster Strudel are garbage, nothing but a sugar and fat delivery system. If that's what you want to eat, more power to you. But your fitness is like The Slight Edge - a total of a lot of seemingly small decisions that have no apparent impact at the moment you make them but their cumulative effect over time determines whether you succeed or fail. So if you want to eat a Pop Tart, go ahead - but I'd never pretend it was "food" that was going past my lips, or that it in any way is going to contribute to my well-being and in fact is a setback I could have avoided.
Second, I've found by a quick perusal of the responses to my post that most ( most , but not all ) of the greatest defenders of garbage like Pop Tarts are those who are farthest from reaching their goal. 1. I don't find that to be true at all but it's an easy statement to throw out there without substantiating, so I can see why you'd try it. Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little. But if they have hit their minimum protein and fat targets, and still have some calories left to have a pop-tart, why is it a problem? People aren't eating 100% pop-tarts, they are eating pop-tarts as part of an otherwise healthy diet. Just like you did with your dessert today.
Second, I've found by a quick perusal of the responses to my post that most ( most , but not all ) of the greatest defenders of garbage like Pop Tarts are those who are farthest from reaching their goal. 1. I don't find that to be true at all but it's an easy statement to throw out there without substantiating, so I can see why you'd try it. Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little.
Second, I've found by a quick perusal of the responses to my post that most ( most , but not all ) of the greatest defenders of garbage like Pop Tarts are those who are farthest from reaching their goal. 1. I don't find that to be true at all but it's an easy statement to throw out there without substantiating, so I can see why you'd try it.
Second, I've found by a quick perusal of the responses to my post that most ( most , but not all ) of the greatest defenders of garbage like Pop Tarts are those who are farthest from reaching their goal.
I never SAID it was a problem - I said that Pop-Tarts and Toaster Strudel are garbage, nothing but a sugar and fat delivery system. If that's what you want to eat, more power to you. But your fitness is like The Slight Edge - a total of a lot of seemingly small decisions that have no apparent impact at the moment you make them but their cumulative effect over time determines whether you succeed or fail. So if you want to eat a Pop Tart, go ahead - but I'd never pretend it was "food" that was going past my lips, or that it in any way is going to contribute to my well-being and in fact is a setback I could have avoided.
neither, both are processed. :sad:
Second, I've found by a quick perusal of the responses to my post that most ( most , but not all ) of the greatest defenders of garbage like Pop Tarts are those who are farthest from reaching their goal. 1. I don't find that to be true at all but it's an easy statement to throw out there without substantiating, so I can see why you'd try it. Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little. But if they have hit their minimum protein and fat targets, and still have some calories left to have a pop-tart, why is it a problem? People aren't eating 100% pop-tarts, they are eating pop-tarts as part of an otherwise healthy diet. Just like you did with your dessert today. I never SAID it was a problem - I said that Pop-Tarts and Toaster Strudel are garbage, nothing but a sugar and fat delivery system. If that's what you want to eat, more power to you. But your fitness is like The Slight Edge - a total of a lot of seemingly small decisions that have no apparent impact at the moment you make them but their cumulative effect over time determines whether you succeed or fail. So if you want to eat a Pop Tart, go ahead - but I'd never pretend it was "food" that was going past my lips, or that it in any way is going to contribute to my well-being and in fact is a setback I could have avoided. I've never had a Pop-Tart in my life, and don't intend to start now, but find it odd how you can criticise the food that some of them eat , when you ahve admitted to eating *Shock horror* Ice cream & fudge. What makes your fat and sugar any better than their fat and sugar? Also, the two people you have picked out have lost a substantial amount of weight, I consider that far more of a success than a failure.
Second, I've found by a quick perusal of the responses to my post that most ( most , but not all ) of the greatest defenders of garbage like Pop Tarts are those who are farthest from reaching their goal. 1. I don't find that to be true at all but it's an easy statement to throw out there without substantiating, so I can see why you'd try it. Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little. But if they have hit their minimum protein and fat targets, and still have some calories left to have a pop-tart, why is it a problem? People aren't eating 100% pop-tarts, they are eating pop-tarts as part of an otherwise healthy diet. Just like you did with your dessert today. I never SAID it was a problem - I said that Pop-Tarts and Toaster Strudel are garbage, nothing but a sugar and fat delivery system. If that's what you want to eat, more power to you. But your fitness is like The Slight Edge - a total of a lot of seemingly small decisions that have no apparent impact at the moment you make them but their cumulative effect over time determines whether you succeed or fail. So if you want to eat a Pop Tart, go ahead - but I'd never pretend it was "food" that was going past my lips, or that it in any way is going to contribute to my well-being and in fact is a setback I could have avoided. a man after my own heart. :drinker:
Never had a toaster strudel, so I guess Poptarts win, but they're gross. I did make some from scratch that were pretty amazing, though.
Second, I've found by a quick perusal of the responses to my post that most ( most , but not all ) of the greatest defenders of garbage like Pop Tarts are those who are farthest from reaching their goal. 1. I don't find that to be true at all but it's an easy statement to throw out there without substantiating, so I can see why you'd try it. Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little. In digging back just a single page, I found a guy that likes pop tarts that has lost 158 pounds so far. Weird
Never had a toaster strudel, so I guess Poptarts win, but they're gross. I did make some from scratch that were pretty amazing, though. poptarts are gross yet you attempted to make them from scratch. very interesting.
toaster strudel has to be the middle--it goozes. lol.
Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little. In digging back just a single page, I found a guy that likes pop tarts that has lost 158 pounds so far. Weird Through me on the I like Pop tarts list to and I have lost a few pounds too..... :drinker:
Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little. In digging back just a single page, I found a guy that likes pop tarts that has lost 158 pounds so far. Weird
Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little.
Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little. In digging back just a single page, I found a guy that likes pop tarts that has lost 158 pounds so far. Weird Through me on the I like Pop tarts list to and I have lost a few pounds too..... :drinker: I guess you aren't close enough to goal for his liking, Ed. Sorry, try harder next time, OK?
Strudels do not give me indigestion.... plus they actually taste like things I wish to eat.....Pop tarts are a plague on the human race.
Second, I've found by a quick perusal of the responses to my post that most ( most , but not all ) of the greatest defenders of garbage like Pop Tarts are those who are farthest from reaching their goal. 1. I don't find that to be true at all but it's an easy statement to throw out there without substantiating, so I can see why you'd try it. Because the most vociferous Pop Tart defenders here (there are two, one of whom called me "orthorexic" and the other who said I was a member of cult and "food phobic", and they know who they are - you can read back if you're curious) are both in the camp of being far from goal. If you want some substantiation, dig a little. But if they have hit their minimum protein and fat targets, and still have some calories left to have a pop-tart, why is it a problem? People aren't eating 100% pop-tarts, they are eating pop-tarts as part of an otherwise healthy diet. Just like you did with your dessert today. THAT isn't the problem. What you suggested is totally fine. The problem is those same people demeaning folks who choose to eat "clean", while wearing a pop tart as a badge of honor.
I never SAID it was a problem - I said that Pop-Tarts and Toaster Strudel are garbage, nothing but a sugar and fat delivery system. If that's what you want to eat, more power to you. But your fitness is like The Slight Edge - a total of a lot of seemingly small decisions that have no apparent impact at the moment you make them but their cumulative effect over time determines whether you succeed or fail. So if you want to eat a Pop Tart, go ahead - but I'd never pretend it was "food" that was going past my lips, or that it in any way is going to contribute to my well-being and in fact is a setback I could have avoided. A setback? 200 calories is a setback? Really? If you truly believe that then I'd be among those labeling you as food phobic.
I never SAID it was a problem - I said that Pop-Tarts and Toaster Strudel are garbage, nothing but a sugar and fat delivery system. If that's what you want to eat, more power to you. But your fitness is like The Slight Edge - a total of a lot of seemingly small decisions that have no apparent impact at the moment you make them but their cumulative effect over time determines whether you succeed or fail. So if you want to eat a Pop Tart, go ahead - but I'd never pretend it was "food" that was going past my lips, or that it in any way is going to contribute to my well-being and in fact is a setback I could have avoided. A setback? 200 calories is a setback? Really? If you truly believe that then I'd be among those labeling you as food phobic. Go check out the diary of the poster who called me "orthorexic". It's nothing but setbacks - which is her choice, but I don't need to be called names by a member whose "logging" is more horror story than chronicle of progress.
Pop Tarts aren't a drink, and correlation does not equal causation. If you want to keep rationalizing your dietary choices, I'm not going to burst your bubble. But results speak for themselves. It's rational to eat food. It's irrational to suggest that food never be eaten. I do agree that results speak for themselves. I'm proud of my successes! The point about the drink is that liquid sugar hits your system quicker. Diabetics are advised to avoid sugary drinks, including fresh juices, unless their blood sugar is too low, in which case a glass of OJ is the perfect remedy.What I refuse to do is to excuse your apparent orthorexia. oh hell no...
Pop Tarts aren't a drink, and correlation does not equal causation. If you want to keep rationalizing your dietary choices, I'm not going to burst your bubble. But results speak for themselves. It's rational to eat food. It's irrational to suggest that food never be eaten. I do agree that results speak for themselves. I'm proud of my successes! The point about the drink is that liquid sugar hits your system quicker. Diabetics are advised to avoid sugary drinks, including fresh juices, unless their blood sugar is too low, in which case a glass of OJ is the perfect remedy.What I refuse to do is to excuse your apparent orthorexia.
Pop Tarts aren't a drink, and correlation does not equal causation. If you want to keep rationalizing your dietary choices, I'm not going to burst your bubble. But results speak for themselves.
Pop Tarts aren't a drink, and correlation does not equal causation.
ETA: Quote from Eric Helms, who has his Master in Sports Management, is currently getting his PhD in Sports Nutrition and is a pro natural body builder and power lifter: "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food!"
My favorite Pop Tart is no longer made, so Toaster Strudels.
Second, I've found by a quick perusal of the responses to my post that most ( most , but not all ) of the greatest defenders of garbage like Pop Tarts are those who are farthest from reaching their goal. Defenders of pop-tarts, eh? So, anyone who happens to like them more than toaster strudels is likely further from their goal than who--is that what a "defender of pop tarts" is? Or is liking either one (pop-tarts OR toaster strudels) an indication that you're far from goal? In either case it is completely absurd to suggest such a thing.
